Dom Rhodes - WTH? (1 Viewer)

[noneother]

haven't seen Rhodes specific threads... honestly i thought his value would have been higher... then the DUI...from the FFLiveWire site...

Giants running out of options at RBWritten by: Ralph Vacchiano ¦ 3/8/2007Source: blogs.nydailynews.comScratch another running back off the list.Willis McGahee, one of the objects of Jerry Reese's desire, was traded today to the Baltimore Ravens for two third-round draft picks and a seventh-rounder. That was way above what the Giants were willing to pay, since Reese said he would refuse to part with any draft picks in the first three rounds.That stance will likely also take him out of the bidding for Tatum Bell, who is being shopped by the Detroit Lions. The price for him is believed to include a second-round pick.Meanwhile, Dominic Rhodes, who has already visited the Bills, was in Tennessee yesterday and is now on his way to Oakland. The more teams he visits, the higher his price is likely to go, and the less likely it becomes that he'll sign with the Giants.Their remaining options, if they don't sign Rhodes, are not very attractive. They have reportedly expressed an interest in T.J. Duckett, but haven't shown much interest at all in Chris Brown. Others still out there are Kevan Barlow, Correll Buckhalter, Anthony Thomas � not an exciting group at all.

so how, with the RB vacanices are going away, is his value going up? out side of NYG, (and that is even debatable) I don't see him having a chance to be the "Primary" back..

 

[redman]

haven't seen Rhodes specific threads... honestly i thought his value would have been higher... then the DUI...from the FFLiveWire site...

Giants running out of options at RBWritten by: Ralph Vacchiano ¦ 3/8/2007Source: blogs.nydailynews.comScratch another running back off the list.Willis McGahee, one of the objects of Jerry Reese's desire, was traded today to the Baltimore Ravens for two third-round draft picks and a seventh-rounder. That was way above what the Giants were willing to pay, since Reese said he would refuse to part with any draft picks in the first three rounds.That stance will likely also take him out of the bidding for Tatum Bell, who is being shopped by the Detroit Lions. The price for him is believed to include a second-round pick.Meanwhile, Dominic Rhodes, who has already visited the Bills, was in Tennessee yesterday and is now on his way to Oakland. The more teams he visits, the higher his price is likely to go, and the less likely it becomes that he'll sign with the Giants.Their remaining options, if they don't sign Rhodes, are not very attractive. They have reportedly expressed an interest in T.J. Duckett, but haven't shown much interest at all in Chris Brown. Others still out there are Kevan Barlow, Correll Buckhalter, Anthony Thomas � not an exciting group at all.

so how, with the RB vacanices are going away, is his value going up? out side of NYG, (and that is even debatable) I don't see him having a chance to be the "Primary" back..

It's simple, the vacancies aren't disappearing quite as fast as the talent is, unless you're really high on guys like Duckett, Buckhalter or Droughns. Rhodes appears to be the last really attractive talent out there that could conceivably start for a team, at least for stretches of the season. He also has the best receiving skills of all of the remaining RB's. Therefore, the more teams he visits the more of a bidding war there is for his services, especially now that all of the more attractive candidates have already signed elsewhere.

 

[softball]

Read what he's saying:

Brandon Jacobs is the starter...and a rookie will join him.

Sometimes it's not whats in the article it what isn't.

 

[identikit]

Read what he's saying:Brandon Jacobs is the starter...and a rookie will join him.Sometimes it's not whats in the article it what isn't.

Agreed...I say Jacobs will get his chance. There's lots of reasons why ppl say he can't be the primary rb. I say until he's given the opportunity, the jury will be out.Id

 

[Boone22]

It's interesting that the writer is saying that the Giants are interested in Duckett. Why would they want Duckett if they already have Jacobs? I can't see them platooning 2 big backs unless they are looking as Duckett as a back-up to Jacobs and they plan on drafting a 3rd down type back.

 

[Sack-Religious]

It's interesting that the writer is saying that the Giants are interested in Duckett. Why would they want Duckett if they already have Jacobs? I can't see them platooning 2 big backs unless they are looking as Duckett as a back-up to Jacobs and they plan on drafting a 3rd down type back.

Wasn't Jacobs in on a lot of 3rd downs last season? I didn't see too many Giants games, but in the ones I caught he seemed to be getting a fair amount of 3rd down plays.

 

[noneother]

Read what he's saying:Brandon Jacobs is the starter...and a rookie will join him.Sometimes it's not whats in the article it what isn't.

to my point.. how is Rhodes value increasing?

 

[JohnnyU]

As a Colts fan I hope he stays with Indy. His opportunities are drying up.

 

[redman]

It's interesting that the writer is saying that the Giants are interested in Duckett. Why would they want Duckett if they already have Jacobs? I can't see them platooning 2 big backs unless they are looking as Duckett as a back-up to Jacobs and they plan on drafting a 3rd down type back.

Easy answer: Coughlin. Without an iconic player like Tiki there to influence him away from his preference for big RB's, he's reverting to form. He's always liked guys who are 225+ lbs.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I agree that Jocabs should be given a chance.. draft a smaller/speedy RB in the 2nd or 3rd.

the money they would Spend on Rhodes should be spent elsewhere... like LB, DB, O-line, etc...

 

[Balco]

Brandon jacobs would thrive as a starter, and I think Coughlin is going to give him that shot. He is a monster, he runs with anger, but he is not strictly a North South runner that you would expect him to be. When he gets in the open field, no one is going to tackle him one on one.

 

[R.White]

March 9, 2007, 09:48

Colts, Raiders, Giants :: RB

RB Rhodes Signs With Raiders

Mike Garafolo, Newark Star-Ledger - [LINK]

RB Dominic Rhodes has signed with the Raiders, according to someone familiar with the negotiations. It's reportedly a two-year contract worth up to $7.5 million. The Giants now must look elsewhere for a complement to RB Brandon Jacobs.

 

[H.K.]

Brandon jacobs would thrive as a starter, and I think Coughlin is going to give him that shot. He is a monster, he runs with anger

One thing I wonder about Jacobs is his approach/attitude as a primary RB. In his role last year he would really pump himself up when he got in the game. Can he sustain that level of intensity as a starter for 16 games? Personally, I doubt it. That being said, how will he adjust to being a 15-20 touch RB (if given the opportunity) and how will it impact his numbers?

 

[Balco]

Brandon jacobs would thrive as a starter, and I think Coughlin is going to give him that shot. He is a monster, he runs with anger

One thing I wonder about Jacobs is his approach/attitude as a primary RB. In his role last year he would really pump himself up when he got in the game. Can he sustain that level of intensity as a starter for 16 games? Personally, I doubt it. That being said, how will he adjust to being a 15-20 touch RB (if given the opportunity) and how will it impact his numbers?

My concern is not with pumping himself up, because I have never seen that guy not run with anger. It's his style of running that might concern me. He is an upright runner, and he doles out alot of punishment, but he also takes a lot of hits. It's injury that concerns me. But it's definitely not talent. He is a unique running back, big, fast, good vision, and nice moves for a 240 pounder. TJ Ducket he is not, thats for sure.

 

[Banger]

Brandon jacobs would thrive as a starter, and I think Coughlin is going to give him that shot. He is a monster, he runs with anger

One thing I wonder about Jacobs is his approach/attitude as a primary RB. In his role last year he would really pump himself up when he got in the game. Can he sustain that level of intensity as a starter for 16 games? Personally, I doubt it. That being said, how will he adjust to being a 15-20 touch RB (if given the opportunity) and how will it impact his numbers?

My concern is not with pumping himself up, because I have never seen that guy not run with anger. It's his style of running that might concern me. He is an upright runner, and he doles out alot of punishment, but he also takes a lot of hits. It's injury that concerns me. But it's definitely not talent. He is a unique running back, big, fast, good vision, and nice moves for a 240 pounder. TJ Ducket he is not, thats for sure.

There's a huge difference carrying the ball 96 times (his carry total last year) and 3 times that as a primary back. He'll need to adjust his game somewhat otherwise I doubt he'll make it through a season.

 

[Yenrub]

Looks like the G-men are going to go with a rookie, probably someone in the 2nd round because I don’t think Peterson or Lynch will fall to them at in the 1st.

I have seen that they are interested in trading for Tatum Bell but Jerry Reese has said he won’t give up a 1st day pick in a trade. While Millen doesn’t have the best track record as the Lions GM he isn’t dumb enough to give Bell away for a 2nd day draft pick.

 

[RC94]

I am not at all impressed with the free agents (including most of the ones that already signed with someone), and I agree with Reese in not wanting to give up much for McGahee. The Giants did what they had to in at least investigating the free agents and trade possibilities, but I think they have always leaned towards drafting a RB who can work in a RBBC with Jacobs.

 

[H.K.]

My concern is not with pumping himself up, because I have never seen that guy not run with anger. It's his style of running that might concern me. He is an upright runner, and he doles out alot of punishment, but he also takes a lot of hits. It's injury that concerns me. But it's definitely not talent. He is a unique running back, big, fast, good vision, and nice moves for a 240 pounder. TJ Ducket he is not, thats for sure.

There's a huge difference carrying the ball 96 times (his carry total last year) and 3 times that as a primary back. He'll need to adjust his game somewhat otherwise I doubt he'll make it through a season.

Agreed with the bolded points. But if he changes his style will he be as effective?

 

[nygiants56]

Brandon jacobs would thrive as a starter, and I think Coughlin is going to give him that shot. He is a monster, he runs with anger, but he is not strictly a North South runner that you would expect him to be. When he gets in the open field, no one is going to tackle him one on one.

watch many Giant games lately?he's OK, but lets not put him at the level of LJ just yet. keep the cork in that bottle of champagne..the O-line is in shambles. If defenses don't respect Jacobs, he'll see 8 and 9 man fronts. Let's not forget the chuck-n-duck that Gilbride loves to utilize, bypassing the running plays.. Just my $.02 , I think the Gmen are in for a long season. Coughlin is a lame duck, no matter how you slice it, the team hates him, so how hard they play is up for debate.As for a 260+ lb RB:since the NFL began some 90 years ago, of the 400+ people to play RB position, only 2 were at or over the weight of 260, Ironhead Heyward,and Okoye. Heyward had one 1,000 yard season, while Okoye was out of football after 4 or 5 years. History is NOT on Jacobs' side. how'd the Stacey Mack experiment go over in Jax? not well. Coughlin is looking for a heavy back to once again lead his team in rushing. that might be fine, if not for the fact that we have Kevin $#@$ Gilbride as OC. We're toast. Giants have ho-hum wr's that don't scare anyone. so, without Tiki to keep defenses 'honest', how are the Giants going to maintain their ranking as the #3 rushing team in the NFL? Jacobs better hit the ground running, or this team is doomed.I hope they prove me wrong, but I think this is going to be an 8-8, 7-9 season for NYG.

 

[redman]

March 9, 2007, 09:48

Colts, Raiders, Giants :: RB

RB Rhodes Signs With Raiders

Mike Garafolo, Newark Star-Ledger - [LINK]

RB Dominic Rhodes has signed with the Raiders, according to someone familiar with the negotiations. It's reportedly a two-year contract worth up to $7.5 million. The Giants now must look elsewhere for a complement to RB Brandon Jacobs.

Not what I was expecting.

Sorry Rhodes owners.

 

[pretender]

March 9, 2007, 09:48

Colts, Raiders, Giants :: RB

RB Rhodes Signs With Raiders

Mike Garafolo, Newark Star-Ledger - [LINK]

RB Dominic Rhodes has signed with the Raiders, according to someone familiar with the negotiations. It's reportedly a two-year contract worth up to $7.5 million. The Giants now must look elsewhere for a complement to RB Brandon Jacobs.

Not what I was expecting.

Sorry Rhodes owners.

Sorry Jordan owners

 

[redman]

March 9, 2007, 09:48

Colts, Raiders, Giants :: RB

RB Rhodes Signs With Raiders

Mike Garafolo, Newark Star-Ledger - [LINK]

RB Dominic Rhodes has signed with the Raiders, according to someone familiar with the negotiations. It's reportedly a two-year contract worth up to $7.5 million. The Giants now must look elsewhere for a complement to RB Brandon Jacobs.

Not what I was expecting.

Sorry Rhodes owners.

Sorry Jordan owners

That too.

 

[H.K.]

watch many Giant games lately?he's OK, but lets not put him at the level of LJ just yet. keep the cork in that bottle of champagne..the O-line is in shambles. If defenses don't respect Jacobs, he'll see 8 and 9 man fronts. Let's not forget the chuck-n-duck that Gilbride loves to utilize, bypassing the running plays.. Just my $.02 , I think the Gmen are in for a long season. Coughlin is a lame duck, no matter how you slice it, the team hates him, so how hard they play is up for debate.As for a 260+ lb RB:since the NFL began some 90 years ago, of the 400+ people to play RB position, only 2 were at or over the weight of 260, Ironhead Heyward,and Okoye. Heyward had one 1,000 yard season, while Okoye was out of football after 4 or 5 years. History is NOT on Jacobs' side. how'd the Stacey Mack experiment go over in Jax? not well. Coughlin is looking for a heavy back to once again lead his team in rushing. that might be fine, if not for the fact that we have Kevin $#@$ Gilbride as OC. We're toast. Giants have ho-hum wr's that don't scare anyone. so, without Tiki to keep defenses 'honest', how are the Giants going to maintain their ranking as the #3 rushing team in the NFL? Jacobs better hit the ground running, or this team is doomed.I hope they prove me wrong, but I think this is going to be an 8-8, 7-9 season for NYG.

<_< I don't really think anyone expects Jacobs to be a long term answer, but what do you expect out of him for 2007?

 

[wharf rat]

Wasn't Jacobs in on a lot of 3rd downs last season? I didn't see too many Giants games, but in the ones I caught he seemed to be getting a fair amount of 3rd down plays.

mostly 3rd an 1...

 

[Bri]

Brandon jacobs would thrive as a starter, and I think Coughlin is going to give him that shot. He is a monster, he runs with anger

One thing I wonder about Jacobs is his approach/attitude as a primary RB. In his role last year he would really pump himself up when he got in the game. Can he sustain that level of intensity as a starter for 16 games? Personally, I doubt it. That being said, how will he adjust to being a 15-20 touch RB (if given the opportunity) and how will it impact his numbers?

My concern is not with pumping himself up, because I have never seen that guy not run with anger. It's his style of running that might concern me. He is an upright runner, and he doles out alot of punishment, but he also takes a lot of hits. It's injury that concerns me. But it's definitely not talent. He is a unique running back, big, fast, good vision, and nice moves for a 240 pounder. TJ Ducket he is not, thats for sure.

There's a huge difference carrying the ball 96 times (his carry total last year) and 3 times that as a primary back. He'll need to adjust his game somewhat otherwise I doubt he'll make it through a season.

There was a noticeable improvement in his style from 05 to 06 after working with Eddie George last spring/summer.

 

[Bri]

Reese has interviewed sooooooo many FAs and the Gmen really haven't signed many(any?) free agents.

He really seems like he knows what he's doing and has been well groomed for this role but what's up here?

I'd like to know what he's thinking, can someone post a "heads up" when he's on WFAN next please.

I would guess he figures these are not franchise RBs so he's not going to pay them as such. He's interviewed alot of players though so I'd love to hear what he's thinking.

 

[corpcow]

There's a huge difference carrying the ball 96 times (his carry total last year) and 3 times that as a primary back. He'll need to adjust his game somewhat otherwise I doubt he'll make it through a season.

Agreed with the bolded points. But if he changes his style will he be as effective?

I think so. I really think part of that was just the role he played with Tiki. He was the big back because he was, well, big. Part of the problem was that other teams knew this... and stacked the line most of the times he was brought in on these situations. (And when they tried to sweep outside when the D is bringing 8-9 on an obvious run? Didn't work out too well with a banged-up line - at LEAST run a toss, or play action if you're not going to pound him straight forward.). That said, seeing him in a few preseason games, I think he looked good out there. He looked like he could be a feature back, not just running inside. He actually has decent moves for a big guy. Anyone remember the Leonard-like leap? (I forgot the game... I was there... Cowboys maybe?)

Anyway, yes, I think it's likely he has value in btoh the short term and beyond. How long depends on how much pounding he takes, but I honestly would not be surprised to see him enter the season as the expected primary back with no real competition brought in. (Then again, I also wouldn't be surprised to see the Giants go RB in round one).

 

[pretender]

There's a huge difference carrying the ball 96 times (his carry total last year) and 3 times that as a primary back. He'll need to adjust his game somewhat otherwise I doubt he'll make it through a season.

Agreed with the bolded points. But if he changes his style will he be as effective?

I think so. I really think part of that was just the role he played with Tiki. He was the big back because he was, well, big. Part of the problem was that other teams knew this... and stacked the line most of the times he was brought in on these situations. (And when they tried to sweep outside when the D is bringing 8-9 on an obvious run? Didn't work out too well with a banged-up line - at LEAST run a toss, or play action if you're not going to pound him straight forward.). That said, seeing him in a few preseason games, I think he looked good out there. He looked like he could be a feature back, not just running inside. He actually has decent moves for a big guy. Anyone remember the Leonard-like leap? (I forgot the game... I was there... Cowboys maybe?)

Anyway, yes, I think it's likely he has value in btoh the short term and beyond. How long depends on how much pounding he takes, but I honestly would not be surprised to see him enter the season as the expected primary back with no real competition brought in. (Then again, I also wouldn't be surprised to see the Giants go RB in round one).

KFFL Breaking NewsBrowns Trade Droughns to Giants

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports the New York Giants have acquired RB Reuben Droughns from the Cleveland Browns in exchange for WR Tim Carter.

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