Don't Ever Do What I Did (1 Viewer)

[MrPack]

He should have posted about it on the league message board and gone with the majority decision, or asked another owner to decide the injured guys starters to keep it fairThat should of kept the whining at a minimum

JJ is not sitting for Lundy on anyone's team except for the one week that JJ has bye (assuming JJ is not injured).....take the loss....man up...

He should have been sitting. The guy never put his lineup in, the lineup reverts back to the previous weeks. End of discussion.

 

[ffweasel]

it's been good so far.

 

[Marc Levin]

He has clearly stated that he was wrong to adjust the lineup and will not do so in the future. Why does everyone still feel the need to tell him the obvious? So let's hear from the same people how bad of a commish he is....

Maybe it is helpful to inexperienced commissioners who understand WHY Stinkin Ref did what he did at each step of the way, to also know WHY it is not a smart thing to do what he did.Noone is bashing Stinkin Ref for the sake of it - but the reasons why what he did was incorrect is probably a good lesson for others. Right? Or do we all disagree. If so, then we are just bashing Stinkin Ref and that should stop.

 

[Marc Levin]

it's been good so far.

see above.

 

[Marc Levin]

it's been good so far.

see above.

and, until Mr. Pack jumped in, there's been no inflammatory posting. That's what I mean by "it's been good"It's been above board, and noone's been "not excellent."

 

[MrPack]

I cannot believe all the commissioners out there that tamper with other players lineups. I'm in four leagues and everyone has a rule that the commish is not, under any circumstances, allowed to touch another owners lineup without their permission. I don't care if it is and accident, death in the family, etc. you just don't do things on your own because YOU think they are right. If these things happen to me I will take the loss and not worry about it, I have bigger problems.Personally I would vote to have you removed as commissioner for tampering.

 

[MrPack]

Sounds like the guy in the accident is not committed enough, was he in a coma, did he need to get operated on, or suffer from amnesia? He should have made a call or something.

 

[MrPack]

p.s. - as a commish, you now have an opportunity to give some MEAT to your rules and to show your league you can drop a HAMMER.

I'd go public with what happened, explain to the league you can't rectify the situation by being nice, so the fallback posiiton is the rules - give him his points from his week 3 lineup, replace C-Pepp with Plummer on his roster, give him no QB for the week (in direct contravention to what I wrote above, I know), and treat it as a lineup short a QB.

In the future, if someone complains about a lineup subvmission, you say: "Remember when so and so couldn't get a lineup in b/c of a CAR ACCIDENT? Well, [insert owner's excuse here] doesn't cut it either. Sorry, but we wrote the rules for just these types of situations. Next time, remember to submit a lineuyp early in the week and you won't have these problems."

EXACTLY what you should do ref. If you don't do this immediately, you will always have a problem if someone now just "forgets" to put in a lineup.

You opened a can of worms, and now is the time to hammer that can closed.

 

[MrPack]

Nope - but he shouldn't have bent over backward with the QB sitch.That's where he screwed up - if he switches one of the other QBs into the lineu pto replace ther C-Pepp/Plummer trade b/c Plummer was on a bye, he should have replaced Lundy, too.The PROPER solution was to leave Plummer in as his QB or to leave the QB spot empty and to give him a 0 for the QB spot.

I agree with this as well.

 

[MrPack]

it's been good so far.

see above.

and, until Mr. Pack jumped in, there's been no inflammatory posting. That's what I mean by "it's been good"It's been above board, and noone's been "not excellent."

Sorry, some of these guys got on my nerves with all of their high and mighty postings.I'm better now.

 

[dagwood]

He should have posted about it on the league message board and gone with the majority decision, or asked another owner to decide the injured guys starters to keep it fairThat should of kept the whining at a minimum

JJ is not sitting for Lundy on anyone's team except for the one week that JJ has bye (assuming JJ is not injured).....take the loss....man up...

He should have been sitting. The guy never put his lineup in, the lineup reverts back to the previous weeks. End of discussion.

Reading Comprehension Down?He could have left the dude with a zero and said too bad so sad.But he didn't .... he elected to use the lineup from the previous week and adjust for bye week issues...Except for JJ because if he put JJ back in since he was not on bye week anymore, he loses....Now thats the end of the discussion...

 

[Irish]

lol @ all the tards in this thread. He already went above and beyond, but is villified for not going further so his "buddy" would win. If you rocket scientists paid attention and actually comprehended the post, you would understand that he didn't randomly choose starters that only scored a few pts so as not to make a diff in the game but purposely left out players like JJ.....he basically left the guy's previous lineup in plus accounted for bye weeks and a trade. ie he didn't choose between this or that guy, just made sure he had starters in there. That's more than fair.

I agree that you should have avoided the whole thing and let the whiny ay-hole just take the loss. If I didn't get my lineup in on time for ANY reason, I wouldn't gripe about losing, even if it was very good reason like that one. It's his responsibility regardless. Plus you'd think after being in a car accident that whining about a fantasy football loss would be the farthest thing from his alleged mind. Doesn't sound like too serious of an accident (which would bring us back to why he didn't at least call someone to make the change himself)....

But I think maybe it's worth adding something to our by-laws about this. So the post wasn't a total loss, thx

Oh I think you are the one that is not comprehending. Of course he didn't choose the starters randomly. He just left out the most obvious starter so that he himself would get the win. He makes assumptions on what qb to play, but did not know that JJ should be in the lineup over Lundy?

:tardwave:

Go eat another doughnut and come back when you can make an intelligent post.

 

[bonesman]

Please let's stay above board here - I can foresee this heading poorly, and it's been good so far.

i, for one, can't wait to see this thread fall off the mapand before anyone calls me a hypocrite for bumping it.... it's already at the top.... again

 

[Jefferson the Caregiver]

I really don't understand why you adusted the bye week players. You did open Pandora's Box and you are getting what I would expect from this owner.

If you simply just start his lineup from the week before, you have much less of a problem.

I agree with those that say you tried to make it look nice. Since you already know the results, its easy to make adjustments that look nice that don't hurt you. This was an incredibly dumb thing to do.

 

[faulkfan]

This problem is easily solved.

Return the lineup to it previous setting and use the results. All done, no more.

He can't complain then, because that was the lineup he essentially submitted since he never changed it.

Your screw up was ever touching that lineup. You took liberties that you had no business taking. Regardless of your intentions, the role of both owner and commissioner is one where trust is of paramount importance. What happens if another owner has a family emergency and can't get a lineup submitted. If you don't make adjustments to his you're playing favorites.

We may have the most fair and balanced commissioner in the world (it isn't me by the way). We have owners who e-mail or call him and say "I've got a defense on bye this week, just pick one and putit in there for me." He never does it. We don't use a site for our league so roster moves are based on what time they come in. He has had a ton of opportunities to say "Oh, I already picked that guy up" when someone calls or e-mails, but he has often told me that he had been thinking about picking up so and so, but hadn't really made the decision and then got my e-mail so I beat him to it.

He has earned our league's trust by his evenhanded approach to all our owners. He WOULD NEVER ADJUST A LINEUP EVEN WHEN ASKED.

Here's another issue to consider. Let's say the end of the year comes and he wins a tiebreaker to get into the playoffs by 5 points? You just screwed the other guy who missed out by 5 points because your friend never would have had those poits if you hadn't messed with his lineup.

Put the lineup back to the original settings. Use the score that it creates. And never, ever do this again!!! Its his team and he has to be resposible for it. You have niether the responsibility nor the right to tinker with other owner's lineups.

 

[a_rackowski]

You did the gentleman thing by changing his lineup. Good Job. It was an extreme circumstance and you did your job as commish which is act in the best interests of the league. On the flip side of that coin however, you should have submitted that lineup as if it is your own. That too is acting in the best interests of the league.

Probably You didnt want to be too nice and give the win away (which I can understand). Maybe you just didnt think of it. Either way I think in order to fix it, you HAVE to go back and adjust the score for him. Put JJ in the lineup and take the loss. You gotta do it or you will lose all credibility as a commish, and you will lose quite a bit of respect among friends and men. A man needs his credibility.

Take the loss - its still early in the season and just maybe the fantasy gods will look down upon you and take care of your team the rest of the way. If not - at least you walked away from the situation with a clear conscence, the faith of 11 owners, and stronger friendships because you are a stand up guy.

 

[faulkfan]

He should have posted about it on the league message board and gone with the majority decision, or asked another owner to decide the injured guys starters to keep it fairThat should of kept the whining at a minimum

This would have been just as bad as the poor owner forced to make the decision would be considered biased towards whoever one after he ruled. You can't put an owner in that position arbitrarily.I think most of us who have done this for more than a year or two probably submit a lineup early in the week. You never know what may cmoe up to distract you from setting a lineup at the 11th hour. I always have my lineup in on Tuesday and then make adjustments as needed as the weekend approaches. Had the other owner adhered to a policy like this, none of us would be having this decision. That isn't heartless, its just pointing out the obvious.

 

[BigRed]

Go eat another doughnut and come back when you can make an intelligent post.

oh the irony.Thx for your post. I'll be sure to keep this as a shining example of brilliance.:munches doughnut:

 

[BigRed]

He should have posted about it on the league message board and gone with the majority decision, or asked another owner to decide the injured guys starters to keep it fairThat should of kept the whining at a minimum

JJ is not sitting for Lundy on anyone's team except for the one week that JJ has bye (assuming JJ is not injured).....take the loss....man up...

He should have been sitting. The guy never put his lineup in, the lineup reverts back to the previous weeks. End of discussion.

Reading Comprehension Down?

More irony.

Nope - but he shouldn't have bent over backward with the QB sitch.That's where he screwed up - if he switches one of the other QBs into the lineu pto replace ther C-Pepp/Plummer trade b/c Plummer was on a bye, he should have replaced Lundy, too.

Because.......... Lundy wasn't on a bye. One last time people: ALL HE DID WAS GIVE THE GUY HIS PREVIOUS WEEK'S LINEUP AND SIMPLY ACCOUNTED FOR BYES. I really don't get why this is so hard for people to grasp. Anyway, thx for reminding why I'm not in any internet leagues. And esp GB not in a league with the ungrateful putz who cries about getting extra "free" points because it didn't give him the W. (let me guess: drunk driving accident?) And I agree that at this point I would say "you're right, I shouldn't have meddled," go strictly by the rules, and revert to what he had in the first place.

:tardwave:

:tardwave:

 

[thayman]

He should have posted about it on the league message board and gone with the majority decision, or asked another owner to decide the injured guys starters to keep it fair

That should of kept the whining at a minimum

JJ is not sitting for Lundy on anyone's team except for the one week that JJ has bye (assuming JJ is not injured).....take the loss....man up...

He should have been sitting. The guy never put his lineup in, the lineup reverts back to the previous weeks. End of discussion.

Reading Comprehension Down?

More irony.

Nope - but he shouldn't have bent over backward with the QB sitch.

That's where he screwed up - if he switches one of the other QBs into the lineu pto replace ther C-Pepp/Plummer trade b/c Plummer was on a bye, he should have replaced Lundy, too.

Because..........Lundy wasn't on a bye. One last time people: ALL HE DID WAS GIVE THE GUY HIS PREVIOUS WEEK'S LINEUP AND SIMPLY ACCOUNTED FOR BYES. I really don't get why this is so hard for people to grasp.

Anyway, thx for reminding why I'm not in any internet leagues. And esp GB not in a league with the ungrateful putz who cries about getting extra "free" points because it didn't give him the W. (let me guess: drunk driving accident?)

And I agree that at this point I would say "you're right, I shouldn't have meddled," go strictly by the rules, and revert to what he had in the first place.

:tardwave:

:tardwave:

I agree with you. But just to play Devil's Advocate, the only reason Lundy was in the lineup is because JJ was on a bye the week before. One could argue that if your going to go to the trouble to accomadate bye weeks this week, why not take the extra step?Personally I feel that it is a all or nothing decision.

 

[MrPack]

He should have posted about it on the league message board and gone with the majority decision, or asked another owner to decide the injured guys starters to keep it fairThat should of kept the whining at a minimum

JJ is not sitting for Lundy on anyone's team except for the one week that JJ has bye (assuming JJ is not injured).....take the loss....man up...

He should have been sitting. The guy never put his lineup in, the lineup reverts back to the previous weeks. End of discussion.

Reading Comprehension Down?He could have left the dude with a zero and said too bad so sad.But he didn't .... he elected to use the lineup from the previous week and adjust for bye week issues...Except for JJ because if he put JJ back in since he was not on bye week anymore, he loses....Now thats the end of the discussion...

 

[Irish]

Go eat another doughnut and come back when you can make an intelligent post.

oh the irony.Thx for your post. I'll be sure to keep this as a shining example of brilliance.:munches doughnut:

Oh the irony.

 

[Kleck]

More than run its course.