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The best part about this is it allows JJ to be the WR3, which is gonna make it really tough for teams to double Winslow or Braylon. Props to the Browns for this move and the Rogers trade.
sure, yet they improved the middle and had the same record as Pittsburgh last year.The D still has major holes.
Let's wait to see how the AFC North teams that actually will be attending the draft this year do before crowning a division favorite.
The teams did have the same record, but that's deceiving in terms of predicting their records for this year. A team with the points scored/points allowed ratio that Pittsburgh had last year should win about 11.5 games in a season, while a team with Cleveland's ratio should win about 8.5 games in a season. So while the teams had the same record, Pittsburgh's points ratio indicates that the Steelers were really three full games better than the Browns.That's a good amount of ground to make up, although Cleveland certainly looks like it's closed the gap considerably. And yes, a team's points ratio/differential is a much stronger indicator of a team's record the next season than a team's raw record.sure, yet they improved the middle and had the same record as Pittsburgh last year.The D still has major holes.
Ike Bruce has durability issues too.He played all 16 games this year. This is a weak argument that is tired and old.
can we really call what he did last year playing?
true browns have no picks till rd 4 now
With what Moss and Welker did last year, I think 700 yards is pretty good. Plus he wasnt called on to run many deep routes which is his strength.can we really call what he did last year playing?He played all 16 games this year. This is a weak argument that is tired and old.
Nm.... re-read that you meant it was a better factor in projecting wins the following year.So what do the Raiders project to?
Pro football weekly also called Drew Brees the worst free agent signing in 06 before the first snap of the season.
Opinions are like......, But IMHO the Stallworth deal on many levels was much better than than the VIKES signing Berrian, Stallworth has good hands, is a deep threat and a pretty damn good after the catch. Even if the money was equal, I would have personnaly taken Stallworth. Berrian has one trick, deep.Stallworth with 10 miliion guaranteed, 17 mil over 4 years and Berrian at 16 million signing bonus with 23 mil first 3 , the Vikes ripped themselves off and got the lesser of both WR. The Browns should be punching each other silly.
Not to mention that Cleveland's schedule is brutal next season. They can upgrade the offense all they want, but they won't make the playoffs with that schedule without their defense improving significantly.
You do know the Browns have added some bad mo-fo's in the form of Corey Williams and Shaun Rogers over the past few days, right?? In addition, it sounds like Travis LaBoy is visiting and he could be a terror as a pass-rushing OLB.
Yes, I am aware, but big free agent signings or trading for good players do not always turn a bad defense around. That's all I am saying. The Browns are doing everything they can, though, so kudos to them.
Vikings would never have considered Stallworth IMO. Vikings have been stessing character players since Chidress became the head coach. Is Stallworth still in the NFL's substance-abuse program?
Who thought the Browns would be a tough out on their schedule last year? Teams change year to year more than people think. I'm not saying the Browns are gonna go 14-2, or even make the playoffs, but I'm hearing a bit too much about the brutal schedule next season. The Steelers will have an even tougher schedule going by these standards since they play the #1s of 2007 from two divisions. And they have made defensive improvements in case you missed it.Another good signing by Savage and Co. I think Stallworth will be a nice fit in the Cleveland offense and we'll be seeing him stretching the field more than last year.
Not a suprise that I agree with your last two posts. A tough Sked and the Browns are doing everything they can to build on last year. I am a big underdog guy, and a 49er fan. The Browns seem to be getting the better end of the free agent pie this year and at a discount. I like what the 9ers are doing but the Browns seem to be making better free agency choices. I applaud Stallwart for going to a team like the Browns, they could be somthing special sooner rather than later. I always thought that outside of durability issues Stallworth is a top flight WR.
I agree he has a history of injury problems, and to pay him 35M WOW, I hope he pans out
Compare what Stallworth did to what Joe Jurevicius did last year...*** Stallworth: 75 targets, 46 receptions (61.3% conversion rate)*** Joe J: 81 targets, 50 receptions (61.7% conversion rate)*** Stallworth: 15.2 yards per catch*** Joe J: 12.3 yards per catch*** Stallworth: 3 TDs*** Joe J: 3 TDsSeems like a no brainer signing to me; Stallworth gets long-term security that he's longed for, and goes to an offense predicated on a deep downfield passing attack [Derek Anderson led the league in yards per completion despite Joe J's slowpoke ways and the lack of a quality WR3].King of the Wolfies said:can we really call what he did last year playing?Pat Patriot said:FTRWRTR said:He played all 16 games this year. This is a weak argument that is tired and old.
thank heavens they aren't turning this dynamo over to Mr. Myoplex (yet, anyway)
I'm almost always of the opinion that adding more talent at the WR position never hurts an elite player's value (like Braylon Edwards in this example). If anything, Stallworth will force defenses to think twice about locking down on Edwards, especially with KWII killing the underneath stuff and keeping safeties/LBs honest over the middle. Edwards and Stallworth give the Browns playmaking ability on both ends of the field. (Balance). With KWII at TE it really puts pressure on the LBs to get a good jam on him and safeties to think twice about cheating to the outside of the field to provide deep cover on either side for Edwards/Stallworth. The player who may get lost in the shuffle is Josh Cribbs. He looks like their #4 again, but if Stallworth doesn't stay on the field then I could see Cribbs emerging (finally) this year and being a pleasant surprise. He could be the Browns version of Wes Welker in theory (not in practice and certainly not to the tune of 100+ catches and 10+ TDs). Just sayin', Cribbs has short quickness, ability to make people miss and he's bigger. Travis Wilson is a bust and I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't make the roster this summer.Ro3384 said:
Agreed.Anderson will likely throw for 3600-4200 yards in '08. I would have to assume the breakdown will be...Edwards: 1200Winslow: 1000Stallworth: 800Lewis: 300JJ: 300everybody else: 200-600
at this point, we kind of know what stallworth is. a guy who will have a 150 yard game in week 1 or 2, then finish the year without about 800 yards.
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