Draft Rumors/What We Hearing Official Thread (3 Viewers)

[JaxBill]

According to Andrew Brandt, Polian is wrong.

Now, instead of each team having an allotment, each pick has a predetermined amount. In other words, a player and his agent know the exact dollar figures the moment he is drafted. They also know the length; every contract is for four years, with first-round picks subject to a team option for a fifth year, also at predetermined rates. As for salaries, the vast majority of drafted players have four years of non-guaranteed minimum salaries, accompanied by a signing bonus that’s not negotiated by the agent, but predetermined by the CBA.

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/05/22/nfl-rookie-contract-negotiations/

As long as the Eagles could fit MM's slot under the cap, it wouldn't matter.

 

[massraider]

According to Andrew Brandt, Polian is wrong.

Now, instead of each team having an allotment, each pick has a predetermined amount. In other words, a player and his agent know the exact dollar figures the moment he is drafted. They also know the length; every contract is for four years, with first-round picks subject to a team option for a fifth year, also at predetermined rates. As for salaries, the vast majority of drafted players have four years of non-guaranteed minimum salaries, accompanied by a signing bonus that’s not negotiated by the agent, but predetermined by the CBA.

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/05/22/nfl-rookie-contract-negotiations/

As long as the Eagles could fit MM's slot under the cap, it wouldn't matter.

That sounds better. Polian=senile

 

[Spike]

After the draft, I think it could be very useful in the future if people edited their posts in this thread and put "hit" or "miss" next to the predictions.

It could make an easy means to glance through this to see which analysts had good reads/contacts.

 

[massraider]

After the draft, I think it could be very useful in the future if people edited their posts in this thread and put "hit" or "miss" next to the predictions.

It could make an easy means to glance through this to see which analysts had good reads/contacts.

I'll definitely scan this thread afterwards.

#promise

 

[John Paul]

Daniel JeremiahVerified account‏@MoveTheSticks

I've talked to several personnel guys that think Dupree is going to get picked ahead of Beasley and Ray. Bigger/stronger

I've been thinking for the past few weeks that Beasley might be the most overrated pass rusher. His workout numbers don't really show up in games... Workout warrior maybe.

After becoming the #5 sack leader in NCAA history, causing major headaches in the ACC the last 2.5 years, two time All-American and last year's ACC Defensive Player Of The Year...Put me down for the opposite of what you have suggested.

 

[Faust]

Examining a trade for Marcus Mariota ... after the Titans draft the QB at No. 2

 

[Faust]

Marcus Mariota to Browns? Trades that could happen during NFL draft

 

[jurb26]

Daniel JeremiahVerified account‏@MoveTheSticks

I've talked to several personnel guys that think Dupree is going to get picked ahead of Beasley and Ray. Bigger/stronger

I've been thinking for the past few weeks that Beasley might be the most overrated pass rusher. His workout numbers don't really show up in games... Workout warrior maybe.

After becoming the #5 sack leader in NCAA history, causing major headaches in the ACC the last 2.5 years, two time All-American and last year's ACC Defensive Player Of The Year...Put me down for the opposite of what you have suggested.

Michael Sam was SEC DPOY. Eric Crouch and Johnny Manzeil were record settlers and Heisman winners. I could go on. So what?

 

[Warhogs]

NJ.com's Mark Eckel passes along a "rumor making its rounds in NFL personnel meetings" of the Eagles trading Sam Bradford to the Browns for the No. 19 overall pick in the draft.
The Browns already offered No. 19 to the Rams for Bradford, prior to his trade to Philadelphia. St. Louis didn't accept because it wanted a quarterback, and wound up acquiring Nick Foles. The Browns are "still said to have interest" in Bradford. Per Eckel, the rumor has the Eagles then sending Nos. 19 and 20 -- plus Mychal Kendricks and Fletcher Cox -- to the Titans in exchange for No. 2 overall, where Philly would select Marcus Mariota. Bleacher Report's Jason Cole reported Friday that Bradford currently believes the Eagles may be planning to trade him.

Whoa. It I were a Titans fan I would like that haul. 2 good defensive starters and a couple mid round 1 picks.

 

[Sinrman]

Daniel JeremiahVerified account‏@MoveTheSticks

I've talked to several personnel guys that think Dupree is going to get picked ahead of Beasley and Ray. Bigger/stronger

I've been thinking for the past few weeks that Beasley might be the most overrated pass rusher. His workout numbers don't really show up in games... Workout warrior maybe.

As a Jets fan (where many have Beasley pegged), I am beginning to prefer Dupree over Beasley and certainly Ray.

Would love to see what Bowles would do with him.

As a Falcons fan, Dupree, Beasley, others are all likely to be in our sights. I'm going to trust Quinn to get his guy, but I'm curious if there's anyone moving up to get their guy or if theyre close enough in rank to let the GMs wait.

Not a Falcons fan, though I do live outside Atlanta... I would certainly trust Quinn to build that horrendous defense. Lot of holes, so I would be shocked if they don't go defense, defense, defense. I'm a huge fan of Beasley and think he will be a stud. On offense, I think the glaring holes are OL and TE. They REALLY missed Gonzo last year. One I would peg for that and think would be a fantastic pickup is O'Leary out of FSU.

 

[Crippler]

Draft

• According to Albert Breer, the Titans like Oregon QB Marcus Mariota enough to take him at No. 2 overall.

Albert Breer reports that LSU CB Jalen Collins’ multiple failed drug tests while in college.
Some teams reportedly prefer Louisville WR Devante Parker over West Virginia WR Kevin White.(Albert Breer)
Breer expects the the last 20 picks of the draft to be “unpredictable,” due to the difference in draft grades that teams have placed on players at positions such as: defensive end, offensive linemen, and cornerback.
Breer mentions that the depth of this running back class could cause first-round talents like Toddy Gurley and Melvin Gordon to slide down further than some may expect.
USC DL Leonard Williams is believed to be the safest player of the draft, and is the only non-quarterback player that will receive interest from teams that are looking to TRADE up to obtain him. (Albert Breer)
Breer predicts Amari Cooper, White, and Parker to be drafted in the top 10 picks, with USC WR Nelson Agholor possibly being the next receiver selected.
Florida OT D.J. Humphries has taken 15 pre-draft visits so far this offseason. (Albert Breer)
Aaron Wilson reports that Oklahoma CB Julian Wilson has worked out for Eagles, Patriots, and is schedule to workout for the Falcons.

 

[ROCKET]

Still not buying any team being stupid enough to even consider giving a first rounder for Bradford, not even Cleveland.

 

[DawnBTVS]

– One scenario I’m hearing for the New England Patriots is a trade out of the 32nd pick, something the team has had a lot of success with in the past, and moving down a few slots to select offensive guard AJ Cann. This would fill a big need at guard for the team. I’ve been skeptical of Cann’s movement skills but was told the big offensive lineman, who has been struggling with a calf strain since the end of the season, worked out for several teams on Monday and ran both the short shuttle and 3 cone at the request of coaches. He timed 4.51s in the short shuttle and 7.37s in the 3 cone, both terrific marks. Only two offensive linemen, Jake Fisher and Ali Marpet, ran faster times during the combine.

I find this rumor intriguing as everything I've read about Cann screams the type of player Belichick would select. Sounds very football smart and has character on the field.

- Lance Zierlein at NFL.com: "Good recognition against twists and keeps head on a swivel in pass pro. Disciplined leader who is rarely penalized."

- Dane Brugler & Rob Rang at CBSSports: "Naturally powerful with brute strength to be a people mover. Alert. Always scanning with good instincts. Strong finisher and flashes tenacity to bury his man. Reliable and coachable with consistent winning attitude. Named a permanent team captain as a junior."

 

[Freelove]

Daniel JeremiahVerified account‏@MoveTheSticks

I've talked to several personnel guys that think Dupree is going to get picked ahead of Beasley and Ray. Bigger/stronger

I've been thinking for the past few weeks that Beasley might be the most overrated pass rusher. His workout numbers don't really show up in games... Workout warrior maybe.

After becoming the #5 sack leader in NCAA history, causing major headaches in the ACC the last 2.5 years, two time All-American and last year's ACC Defensive Player Of The Year...Put me down for the opposite of what you have suggested.

Michael Sam was SEC DPOY. Eric Crouch and Johnny Manzeil were record settlers and Heisman winners. I could go on. So what?

So you were wrong. His workout numbers did show up in games. And, he did have good workout numbers as well -- unlike the guys you fallaciously tried to equate him to.

 

[FUBAR]

NJ.com's Mark Eckel passes along a "rumor making its rounds in NFL personnel meetings" of the Eagles trading Sam Bradford to the Browns for the No. 19 overall pick in the draft.

The Browns already offered No. 19 to the Rams for Bradford, prior to his trade to Philadelphia. St. Louis didn't accept because it wanted a quarterback, and wound up acquiring Nick Foles. The Browns are "still said to have interest" in Bradford. Per Eckel, the rumor has the Eagles then sending Nos. 19 and 20 -- plus Mychal Kendricks and Fletcher Cox -- to the Titans in exchange for No. 2 overall, where Philly would select Marcus Mariota. Bleacher Report's Jason Cole reported Friday that Bradford currently believes the Eagles may be planning to trade him.

Whoa. It I were a Titans fan I would like that haul. 2 good defensive starters and a couple mid round 1 picks.

Yep. Not real sure they need Kendricks but he is a very good player.

 

[John Paul]

"Michael Sam was SEC DPOY. Eric Crouch and Johnny Manzeil were record settlers and Heisman winners. I could go on. So what?"

Michael Sam had horrible metrics, Eric Crouch/Manziel were QBs. Please go on.

 

[John Paul]

The point is this: if you're going to make a bold statement like that, at least find a player with similar physical profile and collegiate output that was a bust. I will take that type of analysis much more seriously than comparisons to Eric Crouch and Johnny Manziel.

 

[jurb26]

The point is this: if you're going to make a bold statement like that, at least find a player with similar physical profile and collegiate output that was a bust. I will take that type of analysis much more seriously than comparisons to Eric Crouch and Johnny Manziel.

Melvin IngramAaron Curry

Vernon Gholston

The point is, reading a stat sheet isn't analysis. Lots of guys put up great college stats, have great college accolades and fail in the NFL.

 

[massraider]

Take it outside, fellas. This thread is for rumors, not blog auditions.

 

[BoltBacker]

Daniel JeremiahVerified account‏@MoveTheSticks

I've talked to several personnel guys that think Dupree is going to get picked ahead of Beasley and Ray. Bigger/stronger

I've been thinking for the past few weeks that Beasley might be the most overrated pass rusher. His workout numbers don't really show up in games... Workout warrior maybe.

After becoming the #5 sack leader in NCAA history, causing major headaches in the ACC the last 2.5 years, two time All-American and last year's ACC Defensive Player Of The Year...Put me down for the opposite of what you have suggested.

Michael Sam was SEC DPOY. Eric Crouch and Johnny Manzeil were record settlers and Heisman winners. I could go on. So what?

So you were wrong. His workout numbers did show up in games. And, he did have good workout numbers as well -- unlike the guys you fallaciously tried to equate him to.

Yeah, I have to agree. Dupree is the guy that based on size and athleticism should be a monster on tape but just isn't as dominant as you would expect.

Imo Dupree is the shiny bobble of physical potential on one end of the spectrum, Ray is the great college football player that may not have the physical qualities to translate to the NFL on the other end of the spectrum. Fowler/Beasley are the safe guys in the middle that have the athleticism and production.

 

[Donnybrook]

Draft

• Breer predicts Amari Cooper, White, and Parker to be drafted in the top 10 picks, with USC WR Nelson Agholor possibly being the next receiver selected.

I haven't done a mock where Cooper, White and Parker make it out of the top 10. More convinced than ever now that scouts are questioning the edge players like Shane Ray, Randy Gregory etc. I am not buying the Agholor prediction.

 

[The Ref]

One scenario Im hearing for the New England Patriots is a trade out of the 32nd pick, something the team has had a lot of success with in the past, and moving down a few slots to select offensive guard AJ Cann. This would fill a big need at guard for the team. Ive been skeptical of Canns movement skills but was told the big offensive lineman, who has been struggling with a calf strain since the end of the season, worked out for several teams on Monday and ran both the short shuttle and 3 cone at the request of coaches. He timed 4.51s in the short shuttle and 7.37s in the 3 cone, both terrific marks. Only two offensive linemen, Jake Fisher and Ali Marpet, ran faster times during the combine.

I find this rumor intriguing as everything I've read about Cann screams the type of player Belichick would select. Sounds very football smart and has character on the field.

- Lance Zierlein at NFL.com: "Good recognition against twists and keeps head on a swivel in pass pro. Disciplined leader who is rarely penalized."

- Dane Brugler & Rob Rang at CBSSports: "Naturally powerful with brute strength to be a people mover. Alert. Always scanning with good instincts. Strong finisher and flashes tenacity to bury his man. Reliable and coachable with consistent winning attitude. Named a permanent team captain as a junior."

Any time you see team captain, leader and coachable in a player Bio you have to think the Pats are interested.

 

[Donnybrook]

Eagles' latest Marcus Mariota rumor involves Fletcher Cox, Mychal Kendricks and Sam Bradford

Draft eagles trade scenario # 43:

Chip send Sam Bradford to the Browns for the #19 pick and instead of moving up for Mariota he takes the ultimate gamble and moves down with one of those picks. It is a gamble because he could go into the season with Mark Sanchez as his starter. Something I think he would be totally OK with but many Eagle fans may not.

If Chip is eager to prove that he is the smartest coach in the NFL, no better way to prove it than taking a QB like Hundley or Petty even and have him run his system. I think he will target Hundley because he seems to have an affinity with former PAC 10 QBs.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Kevin White - WR - Player

"Several Giants sources" insist the team will give "strong consideration" to drafting a wide receiver if the right one falls to No. 9 overall.

The "right ones" would presumably be Alabama's Amari Cooper and West Virginia's Kevin White. An offensive lineman at No. 9 still seems most likely, whether it be Iowa's Brandon Scherff, Stanford's Andrus Peat, or Miami's Ereck Flowers. Still, the fact that GM Jerry Reese isn't a "needs drafter" leaves open the possibility of the Giants addressing any position in the first round.

Related: Giants

Source: New York Daily News

Apr 26 - 12:04 PM

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Yahoo's Rand Getlin reports "multiple teams" have reached out to the Bucs to gauge interest in trading for the No. 1 overall pick.

This happens every year and isn't quite groundbreaking news. Per Getlin, the Bucs "have clearly been listening," but so far "no proposal has been strong enough for the team to seriously consider." The No. 2 overall pick is more likely to be dealt, probably in a trade that would net a team Marcus Mariota.

Related: Buccaneers

Source: Rand Getlin on Twitter

Apr 26 - 1:24 PM

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

ESPN's Mark Dominik is "certain" Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota will go 1-2 in this week's NFL draft.

Dominik also believes UCLA's Brett Hundley "should" go in the first round, but that's just his opinion. Dominik was an NFL general manager as recently as the 2013 season and likely still has close ties to many personnel people around the league. It would be a shock if Winston and Mariota weren't selected at Nos. 1 and 2 overall, although not necessarily in that order.

Source: Mark Dominik on Twitter
Apr 26 - 11:25 AM

 

[Faust]

NFL Draft rumors: Raiders looking to trade out of No. 4, could 49ers make a move?

 

[Donnybrook]

"Word on the street" has Georgia RB Todd Gurley going in the top 10, reports Yahoo! Sports' Charles Robinson.

Peter King ‏@SI_PeterKing

RT @B_ELLIS24: hearing more and more rumblings about Gurley to the Falcons at #8. your thoughts? … That will not happen. Book it.

 

[massraider]

Peter King just published his MMQB, and it's chock full of rumor:

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/04/27/philip-rivers-trade-titans-chargers-nfl-draft/

• I don’t think the Chargers will trade Philip Rivers. Just a gut feeling after lots of time calling around over the weekend. Now, I do think the Titans and Chargers will talk this week, but I don’t see a smart match; moreover, as I’ve written all along, San Diego definitely does not want to trade Rivers, and I believe the Chargers have never been told Rivers won’t sign a contract in San Diego beyond this year—though he does not want to currently. I believe Tennessee would want more than the 33-year-old quarterback for the second pick in the draft, and if I’m San Diego GM Tom Telesco, I’m not willing to offer any more. Rivers is a sure thing, for three to five years anyway. Marcus Mariota is 12 years younger, but is not a sure thing.

• If the Titans don’t get a good offer, I think they pick Mariota. Tennessee wants an offer; the Titans aren’t married to picking anyone at number two. I do not believe Tennessee has gotten a golden offer yet. As one GM in the top 10 told me Saturday: “Tuesday or Wednesday is when those calls are made, the serious calls.” Maybe—but the Falcons did the work on the huge Julio Jones draft deal with Cleveland three weeks before the 2011 draft. I’ve got to think that the Titans would know if they were going to get a really good offer by now. And I hadn’t heard of even a strong rumor of one by late Sunday afternoon. That doesn’t mean it won’t happen. The Titans, though they feel good about Zach Mettenberger, would feel better about Mariota.

• The Titans were all over Mariota all through the college season, and beyond. One Oregon source told me the Tennessee scouts were the most fervent of all teams during and after the season investigating Mariota. The one thing the Titans feel very good about: Mariota has a reputation of being a running quarterback who would have a tough time adjusting to life as an NFL pocket passer. But they saw that the majority of his throws this year came from the pocket, without a lot of movement before the throw. In fact, 23 of Mariota’s 36 passes in the semifinal win over Florida State last winter were from the pocket, without significant movement by him.

• I can’t see Chip Kelly going all wacky for Mariota. But that’s just me. Jumping from 20, where Philadelphia is due to pick, to the top five would just be too debilitating for a team with some needs. One of the best general managers in football said to me over the weekend: “I think we’re all waiting for Chip to make a move, and none of us really knows if he will.” I don’t either. But I doubt it.

My gut feeling three days out? (Dangerous in a year like this, because nothing looks certain but the top pick.) The Titans don’t get that pot of gold for the pick, and they pick Mariota.

Kiss of death. Now the pick surely will be dealt.

One last thing about the run-up to the draft that happens every year. I spend time the weekend before the draft each year talking to people about my final mock draft, which will run Tuesday here at The MMQB. In talks with team officials, I usually say something like, “Tell me if you’ve heard anything you trust about” Team X. With Jacksonville picking third, I asked 12 people I talk to fairly often to tell me if they heard anything they trust about the Jaguars at three. Eight answered the question with a name. Amari Cooper, Dante Fowler and Leonard Williams all got mentioned as names they heard reliably.

This is why, in draft week, you’ve got to qualify almost everything you say.

2. I think there are those inside Jaguardom who want Amari Cooper with the third overall pick, and those who want Dante Fowler with the third overall pick. Leaning toward Cooper winning for my mock draft on Tuesday, but I still have a day to mess that one up. So give me time.
3. I think it wouldn’t shock me if the Saints used the Jimmy Graham pick from the Seahawks, the 31st pick of the first round, on Dorial Green-Beckham. But I can’t see him going much earlier than 31. With the great group of wideouts in this draft, what sense would it make to take a great prospect with the most checkered history of any player in this draft in the first round?

9. I think, as we sit three days before the first round, the most polarizing figure among great talents is Randy Gregory. I’ll have him sliding in my mock draft tomorrow. Too many people with teams too worried about maturity level.

 

[massraider]

PFT has a post about the Jets loving Andrus Peat.

 

[massraider]

Dolphins may be flirting with Gurley to prompt a trade down

 

[JaxBill]

Also from that Peter King link above, thought this was interesting

A TV draft special from that draftnik, Cris Collinsworth?Collinsworth, the Emmy-winning NBC color man on “Sunday Night Football,” usually disappears from the football consciousness in the offseason. Not this year. Collinsworth in 2014 bought a majority interest in the football analytics website Pro Football Focus, and PFF will have a draft special today, “Pro Football Focus: Grading the 2015 Draft,” at 5:30 p.m. ET on NBC Sports Network.

(Truth in column-writing: I work with Collinsworth at NBC, and have been employed by NBC to work on the network pre-game show since its prime-time inception in 2006.)PFF’s stated purpose is to grade the performance of every NFL player on every snap he plays, and nearly half the teams in the NFL have hired the site to do special-project work for them. Last year, the site began to do the same work for major-college teams. NBC says PFF analysts graded all plays for each draft-eligible player in the 2014 season and graded the players the way they’d grade NFL players. On this show, the PFF analysts will compare the pass-releases of Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston to established NFL stars like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. Also, pass-rush will be measured differently for the college players than just by sacks and pressures; a new PFF metric will show how—in the site’s view—Stanford defensive end Henry Anderson ought to be a clear first-round pick because of how consistently he gets pressure on the passer. Much of the analysis on the show will be done by the men who have brought PFF to life, including founder Neil Hornsby, a native of England who fell in love with football watching it on Sunday nights in Britain in the Dan Marino years.

Two interesting Collinsworth observations after some draft study. One: “When I started watching tape on the quarterbacks, I was 100 percent convinced Winston was the better player. As every day goes by, in my mind, Mariota gets a little closer.” Two: “The best player in the draft, to me, is Dante Fowler. He can rush the passer from anywhere. I’ve seen him hurdle linemen like [Olympic hurdler] Skeets Nehemiah. And he covers pretty well too.”

 

[JaxBill]

If the reports that CB Jalen Collins failed multiple drug tests at LSU are true, does that mean he starts out in the NFL being "in the program"?

 

[Slapdash]

Also from that Peter King link above, thought this was interesting

A TV draft special from that draftnik, Cris Collinsworth?Collinsworth, the Emmy-winning NBC color man on “Sunday Night Football,” usually disappears from the football consciousness in the offseason. Not this year. Collinsworth in 2014 bought a majority interest in the football analytics website Pro Football Focus, and PFF will have a draft special today, “Pro Football Focus: Grading the 2015 Draft,” at 5:30 p.m. ET on NBC Sports Network.

(Truth in column-writing: I work with Collinsworth at NBC, and have been employed by NBC to work on the network pre-game show since its prime-time inception in 2006.)PFF’s stated purpose is to grade the performance of every NFL player on every snap he plays, and nearly half the teams in the NFL have hired the site to do special-project work for them. Last year, the site began to do the same work for major-college teams. NBC says PFF analysts graded all plays for each draft-eligible player in the 2014 season and graded the players the way they’d grade NFL players. On this show, the PFF analysts will compare the pass-releases of Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston to established NFL stars like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers. Also, pass-rush will be measured differently for the college players than just by sacks and pressures; a new PFF metric will show how—in the site’s view—Stanford defensive end Henry Anderson ought to be a clear first-round pick because of how consistently he gets pressure on the passer. Much of the analysis on the show will be done by the men who have brought PFF to life, including founder Neil Hornsby, a native of England who fell in love with football watching it on Sunday nights in Britain in the Dan Marino years.

Two interesting Collinsworth observations after some draft study. One: “When I started watching tape on the quarterbacks, I was 100 percent convinced Winston was the better player. As every day goes by, in my mind, Mariota gets a little closer.” Two: “The best player in the draft, to me, is Dante Fowler. He can rush the passer from anywhere. I’ve seen him hurdle linemen like [Olympic hurdler] Skeets Nehemiah. And he covers pretty well too.”

Will have to check this out.

 

[Slapdash]

Dolphins may be flirting with Gurley to prompt a trade down

The Gurley love has been coming out of Miami's camp for weeks now and, while I think this is the reason, they would also be fine taking him at 14. Unless Parker, Scheff, or Collins (OL) is on the board.

 

[massraider]

If the reports that CB Jalen Collins failed multiple drug tests at LSU are true, does that mean he starts out in the NFL being "in the program"?

Unclear at the moment. He hasn't failed at the combine, AFAIK, and the rumors aren't confirmed.

 

[massraider]

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 5m5 minutes ago
In a rough year for DLs, two who could sneak into the back of the 1st round: OU’s Jordan Phillips and Mississippi State’s Preston Smith.

 

[Blackjacks]

Dolphins may be flirting with Gurley to prompt a trade down

The Gurley love has been coming out of Miami's camp for weeks now and, while I think this is the reason, they would also be fine taking him at 14. Unless Parker, Scheff, or Collins (OL) is on the board.

I would think Miami has to big of holes at the OL and WR to draft at such a luxury. I thought Miller looked really good last year in the offense in limited action. Are they wanting to avoid a long term extension with him? I cant think the price would be to bad.

 

[massraider]

Jordan Plocher ‏@StarvingScout 12m12 minutes ago
A lot of talk from scouts and sources is basically teams talking up players they don't like and teams talking down players they do like.

Repeat this to yourselves, over and over.

 

[Slapdash]

Dolphins may be flirting with Gurley to prompt a trade down

The Gurley love has been coming out of Miami's camp for weeks now and, while I think this is the reason, they would also be fine taking him at 14. Unless Parker, Scheff, or Collins (OL) is on the board.

I would think Miami has to big of holes at the OL and WR to draft at such a luxury. I thought Miller looked really good last year in the offense in limited action. Are they wanting to avoid a long term extension with him? I cant think the price would be to bad.

Hard to say there is an OG or WR at 14 worth picking though. I agree Miller looked really good last year, but the coaching staff has him on a snap count. Obviously they do not want him to handle the load.

 

[massraider]

Is Lamar Miller a good enough reason to pass on Gurley?

Anyway:

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 11m11 minutes ago
True RT @Alex_Flanagan: As of now, The San Diego Chargers have not had conversations with any team regarding a trade of QB Phillip Rivers

 

[massraider]

an Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 40m40 minutes ago
Was asked about potential landing spots for Todd Gurley: #Dolphins, #Jags, #Texans are some of them. Houston could add to Arian Foster there

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Browns have had conversations with the Redskins about trading into the top five.

Cleveland sits at Nos. 12 and 19 in the first round, while Washington has the No. 5 overall pick. We suspect the Browns would be targeting a wide receiver, perhaps West Virginia's Kevin White. Per RapSheet, the Browns have "touched base with most teams" selecting in the top-ten picks. Cleveland is not one player away from contention, but this isn't an organization that has made many sensible moves since Jimmy Haslam took over as owner. Nothing can be ruled out.

Related: Redskins, Browns

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Apr 27 - 5:22 PM

 

[JaxBill]

Noah Becker ‏@Noah_Becker 6m6 minutes ago

Less than 5 min into Eagles Beakly: Journey to the Draft + the Bucs beat writer has said 6 interesting things about TB's ludicrous process.

Noah Becker ‏@Noah_Becker 5m5 minutes ago

Paraphrase: TB's owners feel better about drafting Winston because his highlights got more cheers than Mariota's at a suite owner event.

 

[massraider]

Matt Miller's last scouting notebook:

— In case you missed it, I reported Monday that multiple NFL teams want to draft Dorial Green-Beckham in the first round, but ownership has squashed those plans. In fact, one high-level source of a top-15 team told me this weekend they were flat-out told "no" by ownership about drafting Green-Beckham in the first round.

— The Oakland Raiders are a wild card in the first round, and sources with the team tell me coaches in Oakland have fallen in love with Alabama wide receiver Amari Cooper. If he's on the board with pick No. 4, he could be a surprise option over USC defensive lineman Leonard Williams.

— Two offensive guards—Florida State's Tre' Jackson and Alabama's Arie Kouandjio—have failed multiple team physicals due to chronic knee problems, per team sources. There are always draft-week surprises when high-caliber players aren't drafted due to injuries, and the two guards are potentially in that category right now.

— The consensus pick for the San Francisco 49ers at No. 15 has become Oregon defensive lineman Arik Armstead, and I'm told by sources close to the team that he is indeed a target for them if they don't trade up or down in the first round.

— Jameis Winston kind-of-sort-of made news last week when he told Jim Harbaugh in an ESPN draft special, Draft Academy, that he had a "hook up" at Publix to receive free goods—like the crab legs he was cited for shoplifting. This is consistent with the story I'd heard back when the incident happened, and if you think this isn't common for athletes at colleges, and even high schools, you're mistaken. It's very common, and it's not something NFL teams will care about.

— I continue to hear from league and team sources that the Cleveland Browns want to trade up for quarterback Marcus Mariota. The sticking point will be the cost to do so. But here's another scenario being floated by a high-level team source: The New York Giants and Browns have had initial talks about the Giants trading back in Round 1.

— How do the Browns feel about Mariota? I spoke with a coach who couldn't go on record and asked him to describe Mariota with one word. "Outstanding" was his reply.

— One more Browns note: Team sources tell me they don't expect free safety Tashaun Gipson to be back in 2016. The belief is he'll price himself out of their range.

— Michigan edge-rusher Frank Clark is moving up boards, per a team source. "He won't get outside the third round is our feeling," says the same source.

— Where will Todd Gurley be drafted? I asked two scouts this week. One replied, "Top 10 wouldn't shock me." The other? "I'm really not buying all this top 10 talk." Welcome to draft season.

— Speaking of Gurley, I'm told his knee checked out better than expected. One team source I spoke to said Gurley could play for them Week 1.

— Damarious Randall has been such a hot property in the last month that as the predraft meeting deadline approached April 22, two teams told me he couldn't find time to meet with every team requesting him.

— What about Nebraska edge-rusher Randy Gregory? I spoke with four teams and they all expect him to be selected outside the top 10, but all four scouts confirmed he's still a first-round player.

— The Philadelphia Eagles are being connected to Central Florida wide receiver Breshad Perriman, per several general managers I spoke with this week. I was reminded that head coach/general manager Chip Kelly loves speed, and Perriman's 4.26 40-yard dash has put him in the first-round conversation.

— Lance Zierlein of NFL Media reported that Missouri edge-rusherShane Ray may need foot surgery on an injury that has limited him all offseason. In talking to multiple scouts once the news broke, they each relayed that Ray is still among their top 10 players.

 

[massraider]

Jags rumblings about Amari Cooper

 

[massraider]

Adam Shefter says teams asking Jets about Wilkerson.
Even though standout defensive end Muhammad Wilkerson has been a no-show at the Jets' voluntary offseason workouts, he is very much on the mind of other teams.

At least two teams, and possibly more, have approached the Jets about trading for the 25-year-old Wilkerson, a league source told ESPN.

More calls from teams are expected as Thursday night's draft gets underway, according to the source.

Just as the Chargers don't plan to trade Philip Rivers and the Vikingsdon't intend to trade Adrian Peterson, the Jets don't plan to trade Wilkerson. But all of those teams are expected to listen to offers. It is up to another team to sway those clubs' thinking, which could happen in any of the cases.

Wilkerson could be the most attractive defensive player potentially available. Any team interested in acquiring him would have to weigh whether he is better than the player or players it could draft this week. Were he in this draft, Wilkerson would be considered a surefire top-10 pick, per one league executive.

At 25 years old, Wilkerson is entering the prime of his career. He also has one year left on his current contract and is seeking a new deal, which has led him to skip the Jets' voluntary offseason workouts with new head coach Todd Bowles.

The contract is the issue that could ultimately lead to a trade if the Jets travel down the path of a trade. Wilkerson is scheduled to make $6.96 million, the amount of his fifth-year option, this season.

When he recently was asked about Wilkerson's situation, new Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan did not sound overly concerned.

"I don't really want to comment on if I'd like him to be here or not be here," Maccagnan said at a news conference. "I'm sure Mo is doing a good job, wherever he is, working out. But again, these are all voluntary, so he's not required to be here for them."

ESPN.com Jets reporter Rich Cimini contributed to this report.

 

[massraider]

D. Orlando LedbetterVerified account‏@DOrlandoAJC

ICYMI: #Falconshttps://twitter.com/hashtag/Falcons?src=hash GM Thomas Dimitroff appears set to move up and make a play for Dante Fowler Jr.

 

[massraider]

Rick Spielman: "We have no interest in trading Adrian Peterson."

 

[cr8f]

Ignore all rumors the week of the draft.