Duane's breakdown of Eagles - Packers (1 Viewer)

[duaneok66]

1) Reggie Brown (1-14) had a difficult day. He only had 5 targets and 1 completion. Of his 4 "misses", one ball was underthrown by #5. Another time Brown ran the wrong route. Another pattern found Brown double covered, and one was just a drop. If he your WR2, you have to be concerned . . .

2) Curtis (2-53) had an equal number of targers, but at least he caught two of them for a total of 52 yards. What I like about Curtis was that #5 was looking for him downfield. 4 of the 5 balls thron to him were from a distance (in the air) of 24 yards or more (past the line of scrimmage) . . .

3) Conversely, James Jones (4-29) rarely got downfield. He did get 8 targets, but only one of those involved the ball gong more than 7 yards . . . that's AWFUL for a WR . . . he may have separation issues . . .

4) Westbrook (20-85, 6-46, 11 targets) is Westbrook. I think they ran the ball TOO much, and that's a reason why the wideouts' production was off. Another reason was the stifling Packers defense.

5) Brandon Jackson (15-40, 4-35, 6 targets) turned in a below average effort. He did move the pile once, but otherwise he was easy to bring down. In the 2nd half, he was often pulled on 3rd down in favor of Wynn, who did a pretty good job blocking.

6) Again, don't get all excited over Avant (3-54 TD, 4 targets). A #3 WR won't be consistent unless his OC is Mike Martz . . .

7) Tony Hunt (no stats) did not make an appearance, even when the Eagles hit the redzone . . .

 

[Traders2001]

1) Reggie Brown (1-14) had a difficult day. He only had 5 targets and 1 completion. Of his 4 "misses", one ball was underthrown by #5. Another time Brown ran the wrong route. Another pattern found Brown double covered, and one was just a drop. If he your WR2, you have to be concerned . . .2) Curtis (2-53) had an equal number of targers, but at least he caught two of them for a total of 52 yards. What I like about Curtis was that #5 was looking for him downfield. 4 of the 5 balls thron to him were from a distance (in the air) of 24 yards or more (past the line of scrimmage) . . .3) Conversely, James Jones (4-29) rarely got downfield. He did get 8 targets, but only one of those involved the ball gong more than 7 yards . . . that's AWFUL for a WR . . . he may have separation issues . . .4) Westbrook (20-85, 6-46, 11 targets) is Westbrook. I think they ran the ball TOO much, and that's a reason why the wideouts' production was off. Another reason was the stifling Packers defense. 5) Brandon Jackson (15-40, 4-35, 6 targets) turned in a below average effort. He did move the pile once, but otherwise he was easy to bring down. In the 2nd half, he was often pulled on 3rd down in favor of Wynn, who did a pretty good job blocking.6) Again, don't get all excited over Avant (3-54 TD, 4 targets). A #3 WR won't be consistent unless his OC is Mike Martz . . .7) Tony Hunt (no stats) did not make an appearance, even when the Eagles hit the redzone . . .

Jackson was easy to bring down of course i dont think the Pack OL opened up one hole during the whole game .

 

[duaneok66]

good point . . . but I still think that Jackson will still yield to Morency if/when Vernand gets healthy . . .

 

[beto]

thanks for posting, probably better than most of FBGs paid recaps

re: James Jones

How many times did Favre look his way deep? At least he was catching the short ones.

 

[Traders2001]

good point . . . but I still think that Jackson will still yield to Morency if/when Vernand gets healthy . . .

The big question mark on the kid was his pass blocking and he did real well protecting Favre . Morency is nt the answer, the OL needs to play better and the play calling has to improve.

 

[duaneok66]

thanks for posting, probably better than most of FBGs paid recapsre: James JonesHow many times did Favre look his way deep? At least he was catching the short ones.

he only had one deep target (39 yards) , but Jones was covered on it . . .----------------thanks for the compliment, I will have two more games ready later . . .

 

[Jaysus]

7) Tony Hunt (no stats) did not make an appearance, even when the Eagles hit the redzone . . .

huh.... so he was dressed.

 

[duaneok66]

7) Tony Hunt (no stats) did not make an appearance, even when the Eagles hit the redzone . . .

huh.... so he was dressed.

he wasn't on the inactive list . . .

 

[Linton Trust]

thanks for posting, probably better than most of FBGs paid recapsre: James JonesHow many times did Favre look his way deep? At least he was catching the short ones.

he only had one deep target (39 yards) , but Jones was covered on it . . .

hmmm.... i can go back and watch it again on dvr (i was doing reports on it in the game thread, so i dvr it so i can rewind)... but i am 90% sure he had the safety and CB beat by at least 2 yards on that pass... had favre hit him in stride - i believe he had enough distance between him and the cover man that it would have been a TD...

 

[duaneok66]

thanks for posting, probably better than most of FBGs paid recapsre: James JonesHow many times did Favre look his way deep? At least he was catching the short ones.

he only had one deep target (39 yards) , but Jones was covered on it . . .

hmmm.... i can go back and watch it again on dvr (i was doing reports on it in the game thread, so i dvr it so i can rewind)... but i am 90% sure he had the safety and CB beat by at least 2 yards on that pass... had favre hit him in stride - i believe he had enough distance between him and the cover man that it would have been a TD...

you are right. . . I just rewatched it . . . he had a step or two on corner William James - Favre overthrew James . . . I stand corrected . . .

 

[Gadfly]

I liked what I saw out of Jackson. Granted, it was without Morency, but I like that he got 15 of 16 Green Bay runs. He was adequate running the ball. The Green Bay o-line didn't give him much room to run. He was targeted out of the backfield. 75 total yards for his first game isn't bad. He didn't make any bad mistakes and I didn't see any problems from him in pass protection. If the o-line could open up a few more holes and he can punch one into the end zone, he would have a quality start in the future. As my fourth RB in a dynasty league, I'm encouraged for the future.

 

[Linton Trust]

thanks for posting, probably better than most of FBGs paid recapsre: James JonesHow many times did Favre look his way deep? At least he was catching the short ones.

he only had one deep target (39 yards) , but Jones was covered on it . . .

hmmm.... i can go back and watch it again on dvr (i was doing reports on it in the game thread, so i dvr it so i can rewind)... but i am 90% sure he had the safety and CB beat by at least 2 yards on that pass... had favre hit him in stride - i believe he had enough distance between him and the cover man that it would have been a TD...

I may have been mistaken, but I don't think he got separation . . . if you check it (and he did) I stand corrected . . .

yeah i just checked... he was open, maybe not as much as i thought, but he was open (maybe just a good step ahead of CB, not 2 yards)...and the camera showed favre and he was holding his head and looking mad (at himself)and the commentators said 'favre's mad that he missed out on that oppurtunity'

 

[Linton Trust]

thanks for posting, probably better than most of FBGs paid recapsre: James JonesHow many times did Favre look his way deep? At least he was catching the short ones.

he only had one deep target (39 yards) , but Jones was covered on it . . .

hmmm.... i can go back and watch it again on dvr (i was doing reports on it in the game thread, so i dvr it so i can rewind)... but i am 90% sure he had the safety and CB beat by at least 2 yards on that pass... had favre hit him in stride - i believe he had enough distance between him and the cover man that it would have been a TD...

you are right. . . I just rewatched it . . . he had a step or two on corner William James - Favre overthrew James . . . I stand corrected . . .

lol man....... it took me 7 minutes to find that play... i wish you had told me you were gonna do it too... i woulda just let you and took your word for it

 

[duaneok66]

thanks for posting, probably better than most of FBGs paid recapsre: James JonesHow many times did Favre look his way deep? At least he was catching the short ones.

he only had one deep target (39 yards) , but Jones was covered on it . . .

hmmm.... i can go back and watch it again on dvr (i was doing reports on it in the game thread, so i dvr it so i can rewind)... but i am 90% sure he had the safety and CB beat by at least 2 yards on that pass... had favre hit him in stride - i believe he had enough distance between him and the cover man that it would have been a TD...

you are right. . . I just rewatched it . . . he had a step or two on corner William James - Favre overthrew James . . . I stand corrected . . .

lol man....... it took me 7 minutes to find that play... i wish you had told me you were gonna do it too... i woulda just let you and took your word for it

no problem . . . thanks for keeping on my toes . . .

 

[Billy1x]

thanks for posting, probably better than most of FBGs paid recapsre: James JonesHow many times did Favre look his way deep? At least he was catching the short ones.

he only had one deep target (39 yards) , but Jones was covered on it . . .

hmmm.... i can go back and watch it again on dvr (i was doing reports on it in the game thread, so i dvr it so i can rewind)... but i am 90% sure he had the safety and CB beat by at least 2 yards on that pass... had favre hit him in stride - i believe he had enough distance between him and the cover man that it would have been a TD...

He was even when Favre let the ball go and had 2 yards when the ball flew over and he was pulling away.

 

[Billy1x]

1) Reggie Brown (1-14) had a difficult day. He only had 5 targets and 1 completion. Of his 4 "misses", one ball was underthrown by #5. Another time Brown ran the wrong route. Another pattern found Brown double covered, and one was just a drop. If he your WR2, you have to be concerned . . .2) Curtis (2-53) had an equal number of targers, but at least he caught two of them for a total of 52 yards. What I like about Curtis was that #5 was looking for him downfield. 4 of the 5 balls thron to him were from a distance (in the air) of 24 yards or more (past the line of scrimmage) . . .3) Conversely, James Jones (4-29) rarely got downfield. He did get 8 targets, but only one of those involved the ball gong more than 7 yards . . . that's AWFUL for a WR . . . he may have separation issues . . .4) Westbrook (20-85, 6-46, 11 targets) is Westbrook. I think they ran the ball TOO much, and that's a reason why the wideouts' production was off. Another reason was the stifling Packers defense. 5) Brandon Jackson (15-40, 4-35, 6 targets) turned in a below average effort. He did move the pile once, but otherwise he was easy to bring down. In the 2nd half, he was often pulled on 3rd down in favor of Wynn, who did a pretty good job blocking.6) Again, don't get all excited over Avant (3-54 TD, 4 targets). A #3 WR won't be consistent unless his OC is Mike Martz . . .7) Tony Hunt (no stats) did not make an appearance, even when the Eagles hit the redzone . . .

Jackson was easy to bring down of course i dont think the Pack OL opened up one hole during the whole game .

When they drive blocked and he drove straight into the pile it moved quite a bit. He had the most trouble when they tried cut blocking. This line does not seem to cut block well.

 

[Aaronstory]

thanks for posting, probably better than most of FBGs paid recapsre: James JonesHow many times did Favre look his way deep? At least he was catching the short ones.

he only had one deep target (39 yards) , but Jones was covered on it . . .

hmmm.... i can go back and watch it again on dvr (i was doing reports on it in the game thread, so i dvr it so i can rewind)... but i am 90% sure he had the safety and CB beat by at least 2 yards on that pass... had favre hit him in stride - i believe he had enough distance between him and the cover man that it would have been a TD...

Um, yeah. He toasted the DB, Favre missed him by about 5 yards.

 

[Exile]

1) Reggie Brown (1-14) had a difficult day. He only had 5 targets and 1 completion. Of his 4 "misses", one ball was underthrown by #5. Another time Brown ran the wrong route. Another pattern found Brown double covered, and one was just a drop. If he your WR2, you have to be concerned . . .2) Curtis (2-53) had an equal number of targers, but at least he caught two of them for a total of 52 yards. What I like about Curtis was that #5 was looking for him downfield. 4 of the 5 balls thron to him were from a distance (in the air) of 24 yards or more (past the line of scrimmage) . . .3) Conversely, James Jones (4-29) rarely got downfield. He did get 8 targets, but only one of those involved the ball gong more than 7 yards . . . that's AWFUL for a WR . . . he may have separation issues . . .4) Westbrook (20-85, 6-46, 11 targets) is Westbrook. I think they ran the ball TOO much, and that's a reason why the wideouts' production was off. Another reason was the stifling Packers defense. 5) Brandon Jackson (15-40, 4-35, 6 targets) turned in a below average effort. He did move the pile once, but otherwise he was easy to bring down. In the 2nd half, he was often pulled on 3rd down in favor of Wynn, who did a pretty good job blocking.6) Again, don't get all excited over Avant (3-54 TD, 4 targets). A #3 WR won't be consistent unless his OC is Mike Martz . . .7) Tony Hunt (no stats) did not make an appearance, even when the Eagles hit the redzone . . .

How about McNabb? Did he play like crap or was the Packer D that good today (or some combination)?

 

[duaneok66]

1) Reggie Brown (1-14) had a difficult day. He only had 5 targets and 1 completion. Of his 4 "misses", one ball was underthrown by #5. Another time Brown ran the wrong route. Another pattern found Brown double covered, and one was just a drop. If he your WR2, you have to be concerned . . .2) Curtis (2-53) had an equal number of targers, but at least he caught two of them for a total of 52 yards. What I like about Curtis was that #5 was looking for him downfield. 4 of the 5 balls thron to him were from a distance (in the air) of 24 yards or more (past the line of scrimmage) . . .3) Conversely, James Jones (4-29) rarely got downfield. He did get 8 targets, but only one of those involved the ball gong more than 7 yards . . . that's AWFUL for a WR . . . he may have separation issues . . .4) Westbrook (20-85, 6-46, 11 targets) is Westbrook. I think they ran the ball TOO much, and that's a reason why the wideouts' production was off. Another reason was the stifling Packers defense. 5) Brandon Jackson (15-40, 4-35, 6 targets) turned in a below average effort. He did move the pile once, but otherwise he was easy to bring down. In the 2nd half, he was often pulled on 3rd down in favor of Wynn, who did a pretty good job blocking.6) Again, don't get all excited over Avant (3-54 TD, 4 targets). A #3 WR won't be consistent unless his OC is Mike Martz . . .7) Tony Hunt (no stats) did not make an appearance, even when the Eagles hit the redzone . . .

How about McNabb? Did he play like crap or was the Packer D that good today (or some combination)?

Packer D was that good . . . KGB is the 3rd DE (Cullen and Kampman are the first two) . . . they got three guys that can get after it and McNabb was scrambling all day . . . look for a better D against a softer D . . .

 

[mdog1967]

I liked what I saw out of Jackson. Granted, it was without Morency, but I like that he got 15 of 16 Green Bay runs. He was adequate running the ball. The Green Bay o-line didn't give him much room to run. He was targeted out of the backfield. 75 total yards for his first game isn't bad. He didn't make any bad mistakes and I didn't see any problems from him in pass protection. If the o-line could open up a few more holes and he can punch one into the end zone, he would have a quality start in the future. As my fourth RB in a dynasty league, I'm encouraged for the future.

I think we watched different Packers games today, I was not impressed with Jackson's blocking one bit. Take Morency for now and hope the Packers get a quality backup in the future. Jackson = Dog, and that dog wont hunt. The defense won the game for the Pack today. The Packers O-Line was average and regardless, Jackson went down with fingertip tackles. He'll be on the pine by week four.

 

[packersfan]

Jackson looked like what he has been billed to be - a no better than pedestrian RB. He was easy to bring down and showed little acceleration or ability to make plays on his own. He appears to be a guy totally reliant upon his offensive line. While that may sound like a rather obvious statement, the good (and great) RBs make the line around them better by their ability to make plays. Jackson has yet to show that ability. If the hole isn't there he gets nothing and he almost always goes down on first contact. I've yet to see him really create anything on his own. Very unimpressive RB.

The Packers' offense has major issues because of the inability to run the ball. Driver looked really good but he's the only top option Favre has. Jones was fine but looked like a rookie WR for the most part. The TEs were generally non-existent except for the briefest of instances. Favre did what he could be he really is hamstrung by the lack of a running game and the lack of standout talent in the passing game other than Driver. Hopefully, Jennings can get healthy and team with Jones to provide a little more help.

The Eagles couldn't get anything going for one simple reason - Green Bay's defense was exemplary. They were all over McNabb, did a very good job of containing Westbrook and held up well for most of the game downfield when McNabb tried to beat them deep. It was a terrific performance by the Packers' D without question and if you have them, they are looking like the real deal from a fantasy perspective. The only concern I would have about Philly's offense is Brown. He was not involved much in the preseason and McNabb rarely looked his way in this game. It's far too soon to panic and Brown does have good talent in my opinion but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable starting him going forward until we saw some signs that he was going to be more involved in the game plan.

From the Green Bay perspective, this was a very nice win without question. The defense, as I said, was terrific. Long term, though, what concerns me is what has concerned me for months - this team has the defense and the quarterback to be a playoff team but the lack of talent at RB and lack of proven talent at WR and TE could make for a difficult season. It's going to be hard to expect the defense to keep outscoring the offense in order to win games.

 

[a_rackowski]

Great win but Favre and Driver need some other guys to step up. Ruvell Martin might be the one - Bubba Franks was really horrible. Special teams was pretty good.

 

[smackdaddies]

Driver was good

Crosby was good

Both D's played well

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

Jackson looked like what he has been billed to be - a no better than pedestrian RB. He was easy to bring down and showed little acceleration or ability to make plays on his own. He appears to be a guy totally reliant upon his offensive line. While that may sound like a rather obvious statement, the good (and great) RBs make the line around them better by their ability to make plays. Jackson has yet to show that ability. If the hole isn't there he gets nothing and he almost always goes down on first contact. I've yet to see him really create anything on his own. Very unimpressive RB. The Packers' offense has major issues because of the inability to run the ball. Driver looked really good but he's the only top option Favre has. Jones was fine but looked like a rookie WR for the most part. The TEs were generally non-existent except for the briefest of instances. Favre did what he could be he really is hamstrung by the lack of a running game and the lack of standout talent in the passing game other than Driver. Hopefully, Jennings can get healthy and team with Jones to provide a little more help.The Eagles couldn't get anything going for one simple reason - Green Bay's defense was exemplary. They were all over McNabb, did a very good job of containing Westbrook and held up well for most of the game downfield when McNabb tried to beat them deep. It was a terrific performance by the Packers' D without question and if you have them, they are looking like the real deal from a fantasy perspective. The only concern I would have about Philly's offense is Brown. He was not involved much in the preseason and McNabb rarely looked his way in this game. It's far too soon to panic and Brown does have good talent in my opinion but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable starting him going forward until we saw some signs that he was going to be more involved in the game plan. From the Green Bay perspective, this was a very nice win without question. The defense, as I said, was terrific. Long term, though, what concerns me is what has concerned me for months - this team has the defense and the quarterback to be a playoff team but the lack of talent at RB and lack of proven talent at WR and TE could make for a difficult season. It's going to be hard to expect the defense to keep outscoring the offense in order to win games.

great post packerfan. 100% agree. this team lacks skill players on offense.....which will make it tough to go anywhere this year. our defense is good, but i was concerned with how easily philly ran the ball on us during the 2nd and 3rd quarters, particularly the amount of push they got up the gut. o-linemen were frequently 6-8 yards downfield. i wish our line could get that type of push.defense looked great! biggest play of the game was to kevin curtis - when al harris was on the sidelines with an elbow injury. as long as guys stay healthy, this defense will cause problems for teams.still, hard to see us finishing much better than 8-8, unless a wr and rb really step up.

 

[Traders2001]

I liked what I saw out of Jackson. Granted, it was without Morency, but I like that he got 15 of 16 Green Bay runs. He was adequate running the ball. The Green Bay o-line didn't give him much room to run. He was targeted out of the backfield. 75 total yards for his first game isn't bad. He didn't make any bad mistakes and I didn't see any problems from him in pass protection. If the o-line could open up a few more holes and he can punch one into the end zone, he would have a quality start in the future. As my fourth RB in a dynasty league, I'm encouraged for the future.

I think we watched different Packers games today, I was not impressed with Jackson's blocking one bit. Take Morency for now and hope the Packers get a quality backup in the future. Jackson = Dog, and that dog wont hunt. The defense won the game for the Pack today. The Packers O-Line was average and regardless, Jackson went down with fingertip tackles. He'll be on the pine by week four.

There nobody in GB to keep him on the pine , Morency cmon .

 

[mdog1967]

I liked what I saw out of Jackson. Granted, it was without Morency, but I like that he got 15 of 16 Green Bay runs. He was adequate running the ball. The Green Bay o-line didn't give him much room to run. He was targeted out of the backfield. 75 total yards for his first game isn't bad. He didn't make any bad mistakes and I didn't see any problems from him in pass protection. If the o-line could open up a few more holes and he can punch one into the end zone, he would have a quality start in the future. As my fourth RB in a dynasty league, I'm encouraged for the future.

I think we watched different Packers games today, I was not impressed with Jackson's blocking one bit. Take Morency for now and hope the Packers get a quality backup in the future. Jackson = Dog, and that dog wont hunt. The defense won the game for the Pack today. The Packers O-Line was average and regardless, Jackson went down with fingertip tackles. He'll be on the pine by week four.

There nobody in GB to keep him on the pine , Morency cmon .

I think we should start calling Him "Finger Tip Tackle Jackson". Morency may or may not be much, but the dude can break a tackle, I mean come on Jackson looked like a mack truck was Knocking him off his feet every time a DB or Lineman put a hand on him. It would have been comical if it were not so sad.Yep from here out its "Finger Tip Tackle Jackson". Im watching a couple of highlights on my DVR of the GB game while I'm typing, and I just squeel with laughter everytime I see Jackson try to run the ball, dude its funny as heck.

 

[mdog1967]

Jackson looked like what he has been billed to be - a no better than pedestrian RB. He was easy to bring down and showed little acceleration or ability to make plays on his own. He appears to be a guy totally reliant upon his offensive line. While that may sound like a rather obvious statement, the good (and great) RBs make the line around them better by their ability to make plays. Jackson has yet to show that ability. If the hole isn't there he gets nothing and he almost always goes down on first contact. I've yet to see him really create anything on his own. Very unimpressive RB. The Packers' offense has major issues because of the inability to run the ball. Driver looked really good but he's the only top option Favre has. Jones was fine but looked like a rookie WR for the most part. The TEs were generally non-existent except for the briefest of instances. Favre did what he could be he really is hamstrung by the lack of a running game and the lack of standout talent in the passing game other than Driver. Hopefully, Jennings can get healthy and team with Jones to provide a little more help.The Eagles couldn't get anything going for one simple reason - Green Bay's defense was exemplary. They were all over McNabb, did a very good job of containing Westbrook and held up well for most of the game downfield when McNabb tried to beat them deep. It was a terrific performance by the Packers' D without question and if you have them, they are looking like the real deal from a fantasy perspective. The only concern I would have about Philly's offense is Brown. He was not involved much in the preseason and McNabb rarely looked his way in this game. It's far too soon to panic and Brown does have good talent in my opinion but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable starting him going forward until we saw some signs that he was going to be more involved in the game plan. From the Green Bay perspective, this was a very nice win without question. The defense, as I said, was terrific. Long term, though, what concerns me is what has concerned me for months - this team has the defense and the quarterback to be a playoff team but the lack of talent at RB and lack of proven talent at WR and TE could make for a difficult season. It's going to be hard to expect the defense to keep outscoring the offense in order to win games.

great post packerfan. 100% agree. this team lacks skill players on offense.....which will make it tough to go anywhere this year. our defense is good, but i was concerned with how easily philly ran the ball on us during the 2nd and 3rd quarters, particularly the amount of push they got up the gut. o-linemen were frequently 6-8 yards downfield. i wish our line could get that type of push.defense looked great! biggest play of the game was to kevin curtis - when al harris was on the sidelines with an elbow injury. as long as guys stay healthy, this defense will cause problems for teams.still, hard to see us finishing much better than 8-8, unless a wr and rb really step up.

I'm not a Packer fan, but your teams defense was outstanding Sunday, they keep it up and they will pull the rest of the team into the playoffs.

 

[drdgreenlove]

Favre- washed up

McNabb- rusty... hopefully you have a good backup and can bench him until we know what he will bring

Brandon Jackson- Not impressive.... hard to say if he is bad or just average.. Eagles run D was great

Packers D- excellent, but at this point Eagles offense is not a juggernaut

Eagles D- see above (but run D seems much improved)

Eagles Sepcial Teams- worst in foootball in the past 100 years

 

[Pipes]

Jackson looked like what he has been billed to be - a no better than pedestrian RB. He was easy to bring down and showed little acceleration or ability to make plays on his own. He appears to be a guy totally reliant upon his offensive line. While that may sound like a rather obvious statement, the good (and great) RBs make the line around them better by their ability to make plays. Jackson has yet to show that ability. If the hole isn't there he gets nothing and he almost always goes down on first contact. I've yet to see him really create anything on his own. Very unimpressive RB. The Packers' offense has major issues because of the inability to run the ball. Driver looked really good but he's the only top option Favre has. Jones was fine but looked like a rookie WR for the most part. The TEs were generally non-existent except for the briefest of instances. Favre did what he could be he really is hamstrung by the lack of a running game and the lack of standout talent in the passing game other than Driver. Hopefully, Jennings can get healthy and team with Jones to provide a little more help.The Eagles couldn't get anything going for one simple reason - Green Bay's defense was exemplary. They were all over McNabb, did a very good job of containing Westbrook and held up well for most of the game downfield when McNabb tried to beat them deep. It was a terrific performance by the Packers' D without question and if you have them, they are looking like the real deal from a fantasy perspective. The only concern I would have about Philly's offense is Brown. He was not involved much in the preseason and McNabb rarely looked his way in this game. It's far too soon to panic and Brown does have good talent in my opinion but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable starting him going forward until we saw some signs that he was going to be more involved in the game plan. From the Green Bay perspective, this was a very nice win without question. The defense, as I said, was terrific. Long term, though, what concerns me is what has concerned me for months - this team has the defense and the quarterback to be a playoff team but the lack of talent at RB and lack of proven talent at WR and TE could make for a difficult season. It's going to be hard to expect the defense to keep outscoring the offense in order to win games.

While I'm not a big fan of Jackson I blame the lack of running game today on the offensive line. I think they played like crap today. They really didn't get much of a push at all and didn't open many holes. I don't think Ahman Green would've gotten many more yards than Jackson did. Favre was dodging bullets all day too. Hopefully the Eagles defense is just that good, but right now that offensive line is a little concerning.

 

[Traders2001]

Jackson looked like what he has been billed to be - a no better than pedestrian RB. He was easy to bring down and showed little acceleration or ability to make plays on his own. He appears to be a guy totally reliant upon his offensive line. While that may sound like a rather obvious statement, the good (and great) RBs make the line around them better by their ability to make plays. Jackson has yet to show that ability. If the hole isn't there he gets nothing and he almost always goes down on first contact. I've yet to see him really create anything on his own. Very unimpressive RB. The Packers' offense has major issues because of the inability to run the ball. Driver looked really good but he's the only top option Favre has. Jones was fine but looked like a rookie WR for the most part. The TEs were generally non-existent except for the briefest of instances. Favre did what he could be he really is hamstrung by the lack of a running game and the lack of standout talent in the passing game other than Driver. Hopefully, Jennings can get healthy and team with Jones to provide a little more help.The Eagles couldn't get anything going for one simple reason - Green Bay's defense was exemplary. They were all over McNabb, did a very good job of containing Westbrook and held up well for most of the game downfield when McNabb tried to beat them deep. It was a terrific performance by the Packers' D without question and if you have them, they are looking like the real deal from a fantasy perspective. The only concern I would have about Philly's offense is Brown. He was not involved much in the preseason and McNabb rarely looked his way in this game. It's far too soon to panic and Brown does have good talent in my opinion but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable starting him going forward until we saw some signs that he was going to be more involved in the game plan. From the Green Bay perspective, this was a very nice win without question. The defense, as I said, was terrific. Long term, though, what concerns me is what has concerned me for months - this team has the defense and the quarterback to be a playoff team but the lack of talent at RB and lack of proven talent at WR and TE could make for a difficult season. It's going to be hard to expect the defense to keep outscoring the offense in order to win games.

While I'm not a big fan of Jackson I blame the lack of running game today on the offensive line. I think they played like crap today. They really didn't get much of a push at all and didn't open many holes. I don't think Ahman Green would've gotten many more yards than Jackson did. Favre was dodging bullets all day too. Hopefully the Eagles defense is just that good, but right now that offensive line is a little concerning.

We shall see next week as the Packers face the ridiculously bad Giants defense , they should open up holes and if Jackson has a good game all his Haters on this board will say it was against the Giants it does nt mean anything.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

The biggest thing I noticed was how good both Defenses were, especially Philly. Philly's defense really only gave up one FG, the rest were off turnovers deep in their own territory.

 

[packersfan]

Jackson looked like what he has been billed to be - a no better than pedestrian RB. He was easy to bring down and showed little acceleration or ability to make plays on his own. He appears to be a guy totally reliant upon his offensive line. While that may sound like a rather obvious statement, the good (and great) RBs make the line around them better by their ability to make plays. Jackson has yet to show that ability. If the hole isn't there he gets nothing and he almost always goes down on first contact. I've yet to see him really create anything on his own. Very unimpressive RB. The Packers' offense has major issues because of the inability to run the ball. Driver looked really good but he's the only top option Favre has. Jones was fine but looked like a rookie WR for the most part. The TEs were generally non-existent except for the briefest of instances. Favre did what he could be he really is hamstrung by the lack of a running game and the lack of standout talent in the passing game other than Driver. Hopefully, Jennings can get healthy and team with Jones to provide a little more help.The Eagles couldn't get anything going for one simple reason - Green Bay's defense was exemplary. They were all over McNabb, did a very good job of containing Westbrook and held up well for most of the game downfield when McNabb tried to beat them deep. It was a terrific performance by the Packers' D without question and if you have them, they are looking like the real deal from a fantasy perspective. The only concern I would have about Philly's offense is Brown. He was not involved much in the preseason and McNabb rarely looked his way in this game. It's far too soon to panic and Brown does have good talent in my opinion but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable starting him going forward until we saw some signs that he was going to be more involved in the game plan. From the Green Bay perspective, this was a very nice win without question. The defense, as I said, was terrific. Long term, though, what concerns me is what has concerned me for months - this team has the defense and the quarterback to be a playoff team but the lack of talent at RB and lack of proven talent at WR and TE could make for a difficult season. It's going to be hard to expect the defense to keep outscoring the offense in order to win games.

great post packerfan. 100% agree. this team lacks skill players on offense.....which will make it tough to go anywhere this year. our defense is good, but i was concerned with how easily philly ran the ball on us during the 2nd and 3rd quarters, particularly the amount of push they got up the gut. o-linemen were frequently 6-8 yards downfield. i wish our line could get that type of push.defense looked great! biggest play of the game was to kevin curtis - when al harris was on the sidelines with an elbow injury. as long as guys stay healthy, this defense will cause problems for teams.still, hard to see us finishing much better than 8-8, unless a wr and rb really step up.

I agree. There was proven talent available this offseason at both of those positions as well as TE and Thompson ignored all of them. My fear is it will cost this team a chance to make the playoffs. Week 1 did nothing to alleviate that concern. This team's offense could be real bad this season which means there will be a lot of pressure placed on the defense. And even if this is a good unit - and I believe it is - the pressure could be too much as the season goes on. We'll see.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

I was at the game and haven't yet watched the TV coverage, but my impression is that Favre did not have a very good game. Its certainly true that the receivers did not get much separation - particularly deep - but it seemed Favre missed a couple good chances either with a poor throw or just not finding the open guy. I am an admitted homer and have the green/gold goggles on this time of year, but my expectation is that Morency and Jennings will help substantially when they return. Morency perhaps won't ever be a great back like Green in his prime, but at least he can usually beat the first tackler and make a move in the hole, something Jackson isn't quite ready to do yet.

Everyone is focusing on the TE and RB positions Thompson failed to address, but I'm pretty satisfied with what he's done to this roster the past two offseasons - lots of dead weight gone and a ton of very exciting young players. Its nice to begin a season without a roster full of 2-3 year "potential" guys we are hoping will finally turn the corner or older guys with no future on the team (think C. Hunt, D. Washington, Ferguson, Jue, Joey Thomas, A. Carroll, Kenny Peterson, Diggs, James Lee, T. Marshall, Roman, etc.)

 

[sho nuff]

Jackson looked like what he has been billed to be - a no better than pedestrian RB. He was easy to bring down and showed little acceleration or ability to make plays on his own. He appears to be a guy totally reliant upon his offensive line. While that may sound like a rather obvious statement, the good (and great) RBs make the line around them better by their ability to make plays. Jackson has yet to show that ability. If the hole isn't there he gets nothing and he almost always goes down on first contact. I've yet to see him really create anything on his own. Very unimpressive RB. The Packers' offense has major issues because of the inability to run the ball. Driver looked really good but he's the only top option Favre has. Jones was fine but looked like a rookie WR for the most part. The TEs were generally non-existent except for the briefest of instances. Favre did what he could be he really is hamstrung by the lack of a running game and the lack of standout talent in the passing game other than Driver. Hopefully, Jennings can get healthy and team with Jones to provide a little more help.The Eagles couldn't get anything going for one simple reason - Green Bay's defense was exemplary. They were all over McNabb, did a very good job of containing Westbrook and held up well for most of the game downfield when McNabb tried to beat them deep. It was a terrific performance by the Packers' D without question and if you have them, they are looking like the real deal from a fantasy perspective. The only concern I would have about Philly's offense is Brown. He was not involved much in the preseason and McNabb rarely looked his way in this game. It's far too soon to panic and Brown does have good talent in my opinion but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable starting him going forward until we saw some signs that he was going to be more involved in the game plan. From the Green Bay perspective, this was a very nice win without question. The defense, as I said, was terrific. Long term, though, what concerns me is what has concerned me for months - this team has the defense and the quarterback to be a playoff team but the lack of talent at RB and lack of proven talent at WR and TE could make for a difficult season. It's going to be hard to expect the defense to keep outscoring the offense in order to win games.

great post packerfan. 100% agree. this team lacks skill players on offense.....which will make it tough to go anywhere this year. our defense is good, but i was concerned with how easily philly ran the ball on us during the 2nd and 3rd quarters, particularly the amount of push they got up the gut. o-linemen were frequently 6-8 yards downfield. i wish our line could get that type of push.defense looked great! biggest play of the game was to kevin curtis - when al harris was on the sidelines with an elbow injury. as long as guys stay healthy, this defense will cause problems for teams.still, hard to see us finishing much better than 8-8, unless a wr and rb really step up.

I agree. There was proven talent available this offseason at both of those positions as well as TE and Thompson ignored all of them. My fear is it will cost this team a chance to make the playoffs. Week 1 did nothing to alleviate that concern. This team's offense could be real bad this season which means there will be a lot of pressure placed on the defense. And even if this is a good unit - and I believe it is - the pressure could be too much as the season goes on. We'll see.

Where was this proven talent out there?RB?TE? Hell, the TEs had 6 receptions yesterday...Hardly terrible.Jennings out certainly hurt the offense a bit as well.And again, the Oline looked terrible yesterday. Who was going to make something out of that?Though, I will say that I was one who thought they should have signed Chris Brown.

 

[smackdaddies]

Packers have no deep threat - good thing they traded thier 3rd round pick for Moss

Jackson was AWFUL. Good thing they paid Ahman Green what he was worth

For all that, Packers will put up some points on the bad teams. Definately match up type stuff (except for Crosby and the Defense - they are every week starts)

Westbrook looked ok. Not a great start, but the Pack D was ok yesterday. I would not be panicking over him.

Phili has really no recievers.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Jackson looked like what he has been billed to be - a no better than pedestrian RB. He was easy to bring down and showed little acceleration or ability to make plays on his own. He appears to be a guy totally reliant upon his offensive line. While that may sound like a rather obvious statement, the good (and great) RBs make the line around them better by their ability to make plays. Jackson has yet to show that ability. If the hole isn't there he gets nothing and he almost always goes down on first contact. I've yet to see him really create anything on his own. Very unimpressive RB. The Packers' offense has major issues because of the inability to run the ball. Driver looked really good but he's the only top option Favre has. Jones was fine but looked like a rookie WR for the most part. The TEs were generally non-existent except for the briefest of instances. Favre did what he could be he really is hamstrung by the lack of a running game and the lack of standout talent in the passing game other than Driver. Hopefully, Jennings can get healthy and team with Jones to provide a little more help.The Eagles couldn't get anything going for one simple reason - Green Bay's defense was exemplary. They were all over McNabb, did a very good job of containing Westbrook and held up well for most of the game downfield when McNabb tried to beat them deep. It was a terrific performance by the Packers' D without question and if you have them, they are looking like the real deal from a fantasy perspective. The only concern I would have about Philly's offense is Brown. He was not involved much in the preseason and McNabb rarely looked his way in this game. It's far too soon to panic and Brown does have good talent in my opinion but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable starting him going forward until we saw some signs that he was going to be more involved in the game plan. From the Green Bay perspective, this was a very nice win without question. The defense, as I said, was terrific. Long term, though, what concerns me is what has concerned me for months - this team has the defense and the quarterback to be a playoff team but the lack of talent at RB and lack of proven talent at WR and TE could make for a difficult season. It's going to be hard to expect the defense to keep outscoring the offense in order to win games.

great post packerfan. 100% agree. this team lacks skill players on offense.....which will make it tough to go anywhere this year. our defense is good, but i was concerned with how easily philly ran the ball on us during the 2nd and 3rd quarters, particularly the amount of push they got up the gut. o-linemen were frequently 6-8 yards downfield. i wish our line could get that type of push.defense looked great! biggest play of the game was to kevin curtis - when al harris was on the sidelines with an elbow injury. as long as guys stay healthy, this defense will cause problems for teams.still, hard to see us finishing much better than 8-8, unless a wr and rb really step up.

I agree. There was proven talent available this offseason at both of those positions as well as TE and Thompson ignored all of them. My fear is it will cost this team a chance to make the playoffs. Week 1 did nothing to alleviate that concern. This team's offense could be real bad this season which means there will be a lot of pressure placed on the defense. And even if this is a good unit - and I believe it is - the pressure could be too much as the season goes on. We'll see.

Where was this proven talent out there?RB?TE? Hell, the TEs had 6 receptions yesterday...Hardly terrible.Jennings out certainly hurt the offense a bit as well.And again, the Oline looked terrible yesterday. Who was going to make something out of that?Though, I will say that I was one who thought they should have signed Chris Brown.

Exactly. We keep hearing this line, but I just don't see much out that that they could've picked up as an improvement. Chris Brown doesn't do much for me because he can't stay healthy at all.Now if yoy mean through trades, that's another thing. But I'd never begrudge a GM for not making a trade. There's just as much risk in doing that as there is holding your first round picks and hoping that rookie pans out.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Packers have no deep threat - good thing they traded thier 3rd round pick for MossJackson was AWFUL. Good thing they paid Ahman Green what he was worthFor all that, Packers will put up some points on the bad teams. Definately match up type stuff (except for Crosby and the Defense - they are every week starts)Westbrook looked ok. Not a great start, but the Pack D was ok yesterday. I would not be panicking over him. Phili has really no recievers.

This is such BS. Moss is not worth a third round pick, and Ahman Green got WAY overpaid. Nice try though.

 

[Jason Wood]

I'm generally the guy arguing against my fellow Eagles fans who want to throw Andy Reid off a bridge. But I have to admit that, whether it's distraction or just a whiff, this was a really poorly conceived and coached game. I haven't seen this kind of plain vanilla play-calling in a long time. Seems like they took a few shots downfield that didn't connect, and then it was retrenchment time.

But that could also all be explained away by McNabb and the line play. He was hurried and, while it was great to see him strong/healthy enough to escape the rush, the offensive line looked like a sieve. For a veteran line that has three Pro Bowlers (including an All Pro), the line is becoming a concern. They were 2nd worst in the preseason in sacks allowed, and looked no better against the Green Bay front.

The one area I simply can't excuse as a fan is the return game. There isn't an Eagles season ticket holder in the land that wouldn't tell you we have had subpar return games and coverage units for the last few years; basically since Westbrook stopped returning punts consistently. We drafted Jeremy Bloom to serve that role. While I can understand the decision to waive him (he wasn't getting the job done), I for the life of me can't fathom that their backup plans were really Greg "No NFL Punt Return Experience" Lewis and J.R. "I was an Eagle a few years ago and muffed kicks" Reed. Just absolutely inexplicable.

 

[Pipes]

Packers have no deep threat - good thing they traded thier 3rd round pick for MossJackson was AWFUL. Good thing they paid Ahman Green what he was worthFor all that, Packers will put up some points on the bad teams. Definately match up type stuff (except for Crosby and the Defense - they are every week starts)Westbrook looked ok. Not a great start, but the Pack D was ok yesterday. I would not be panicking over him. Phili has really no recievers.

What makes you think Ahman Green would've faired any better than Jackson did? Did you see how bad the Oline was yesterday?

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

But that could also all be explained away by McNabb and the line play. He was hurried and, while it was great to see him strong/healthy enough to escape the rush, the offensive line looked like a sieve. For a veteran line that has three Pro Bowlers (including an All Pro), the line is becoming a concern. They were 2nd worst in the preseason in sacks allowed, and looked no better against the Green Bay front.

As a Packer fan, I would avise you not to overreact too much to this. Your talking about a D that can bring some serious heat out of their front four. Kampan had 15 1/2 sacks last year. Cullen Jenkins can bring it. KGB play on obvious passing down. Those three are all on the field in passing situation. Not many O line will be able to keep the heat off.

 

[packersfan]

Packers have no deep threat - good thing they traded thier 3rd round pick for Moss

Moss or Darrell Jackson would have been HUGE upgrades. Hell, we saw how valuable Wes Welker can be too and he was available. He's better than anybody the Packers have at WR other than Driver.

Jackson was AWFUL. Good thing they paid Ahman Green what he was worth

Green was overpaid. I think Thompson made the right call there. But there was talent at the position that went cheap who Thompson could have made a play for but declined to do so. Or he could have been aggressive in the draft to make a run at Lynch or Peterson, both of whom are significantly better than anybody the Packers have. Hell, Chris Brown is a significant upgrade over what the Packers have and the Titans brought him back for nothing. Granted he has durability issues but when healthy he'd be a huge improvement over the stiffs the Packers trotted onto the field yesterday. Thompson sat on his hands for the most part (Jones should be a nice player but it's a major stretch at this time to say he'll be a standout starter) and I fear his team will pay the price for it. They almost did yesterday.

For all that, Packers will put up some points on the bad teams. Definately match up type stuff (except for Crosby and the Defense - they are every week starts)

I agree if you have the Packers you should keep starting them. This is a legitimately good unit and that was a very impressive performance yesterday. I worry they will wear down as the season goes due to the talent and/or depth issues at RB, WR and TE but for now they are a strong fantasy option in my opinion.

 

[sho nuff]

Packers have no deep threat - good thing they traded thier 3rd round pick for MossJackson was AWFUL. Good thing they paid Ahman Green what he was worthFor all that, Packers will put up some points on the bad teams. Definately match up type stuff (except for Crosby and the Defense - they are every week starts)Westbrook looked ok. Not a great start, but the Pack D was ok yesterday. I would not be panicking over him. Phili has really no recievers.

Jennings was also out, and Driver can be a deep threat.Ahman was offered what he was worth, by nearly every account, Houston overpaid for his services.

 

[sho nuff]

Exactly. We keep hearing this line, but I just don't see much out that that they could've picked up as an improvement. Chris Brown doesn't do much for me because he can't stay healthy at all.Now if yoy mean through trades, that's another thing. But I'd never begrudge a GM for not making a trade. There's just as much risk in doing that as there is holding your first round picks and hoping that rookie pans out.

I liked Brown for a few reasons.- cheap after nobody was going for him- played so little last year he was as healthy as he was ever going to be- good fit for the zone blocking (by many accounts)- in an RBBC situation, you would think he could stay healthy- his offseason he had bulked up a bit up top. Watching him now you can see what it has done for himEven through trades...McGahee was about the only reasonable example (and I don't think that much of him anyway).The Bears were not giving the Packers Jones for what they gave him to the Jets for.

 

[sho nuff]

Moss or Darrell Jackson would have been HUGE upgrades. Hell, we saw how valuable Wes Welker can be too and he was available. He's better than anybody the Packers have at WR other than Driver.Green was overpaid. I think Thompson made the right call there. But there was talent at the position that went cheap who Thompson could have made a play for but declined to do so. Or he could have been aggressive in the draft to make a run at Lynch or Peterson, both of whom are significantly better than anybody the Packers have. Hell, Chris Brown is a significant upgrade over what the Packers have and the Titans brought him back for nothing. Granted he has durability issues but when healthy he'd be a huge improvement over the stiffs the Packers trotted onto the field yesterday. Thompson sat on his hands for the most part (Jones should be a nice player but it's a major stretch at this time to say he'll be a standout starter) and I fear his team will pay the price for it. They almost did yesterday. I agree if you have the Packers you should keep starting them. This is a legitimately good unit and that was a very impressive performance yesterday. I worry they will wear down as the season goes due to the talent and/or depth issues at RB, WR and TE but for now they are a strong fantasy option in my opinion.

Welker was a trade was he not? Or a restricted free agent? Because NE gave up quite a bit for him. He was not just a UFA.Moss was seen as a big ? by many people. I was for it for the right price, but NE jumped in to take it away is what it looks like.And you cannot just look at Moss yesterday and think the same thing would have happened in GB.Jackson. I would have liked it, especially as cheap as he would have come. But to what expense? The WRs are not totally the problem right now. Getting Jennings healthy should help this out big time.I don't see depth issues at WR or TE. Driver, Jennings, Jones...Martin, Holliday...and oh yeah, Robinson possibly at some point soon.Seriously, where is this talent you keep talking about being available?And while Brown looks good now, do you want to know how many people said I was crazy for saying the Packers should get him? With his injury history?Peterson? Do you honestly know how much it would have cost them to go after Peterson? Or if Minny would have even budged, or someone above them? You are talking pipe dreams here.And until yesterday, what was all the talk about Lynch so far this preseason?

 

[packersfan]

I'm a big McGahee fan and would have loved for the Packers to trade for him. But let's say Thompson wanted to stay cheap he still could have made three major upgrades at key positions to improve the offense:

WR - Darrell Jackson (the Niners got him for nothing. Yes he has durability issues but only Driver is better and a Driver-Jackson combo at WR would be a major source of talent and potential for the Packers).

TE - Eric Johnson (the Saints signed him for cheap for one year. Yes he also has durability issues but his talent is evident. He would bring the receiving threat to the position the Packers badly need).

RB - Chris Brown (explained above).

Yes, all three players have durability issues so there's some risk. But that's offset by the fact all three were available for a very cheap price. So you lose nothing of serious value by bringing them in. It's high risk but there's also high reward. So there were ways for Thompson to make serious talent upgrades offensively without overspending. He chose to ignore all of it because he hates free agency (or sure seems to). That's what frustrates me about the guy. It's one thing to refrain from overspending. I'm fine with that although I do believe when it comes to premium talent there's a reason why they get big bucks. But you can mine for value on the cheap. We all do that in our drafts every year. Maybe someone should create a Free Agent Dominator for Thompson to use each offseason.

 

[Aaronstory]

I'm a big McGahee fan and would have loved for the Packers to trade for him. But let's say Thompson wanted to stay cheap he still could have made three major upgrades at key positions to improve the offense:WR - Darrell Jackson (the Niners got him for nothing. Yes he has durability issues but only Driver is better and a Driver-Jackson combo at WR would be a major source of talent and potential for the Packers).TE - Eric Johnson (the Saints signed him for cheap for one year. Yes he also has durability issues but his talent is evident. He would bring the receiving threat to the position the Packers badly need).RB - Chris Brown (explained above).Yes, all three players have durability issues so there's some risk. But that's offset by the fact all three were available for a very cheap price. So you lose nothing of serious value by bringing them in. It's high risk but there's also high reward. So there were ways for Thompson to make serious talent upgrades offensively without overspending. He chose to ignore all of it because he hates free agency (or sure seems to). That's what frustrates me about the guy. It's one thing to refrain from overspending. I'm fine with that although I do believe when it comes to premium talent there's a reason why they get big bucks. But you can mine for value on the cheap. We all do that in our drafts every year. Maybe someone should create a Free Agent Dominator for Thompson to use each offseason.

He could have brought in Moss, Jackson, and McGahee and it wouldn't have mattered one bit with the offensive line we saw yesterday. They have a big problem there and no amount of talent at the skill positions is going to fix it.

 

[packersfan]

I'm a big McGahee fan and would have loved for the Packers to trade for him. But let's say Thompson wanted to stay cheap he still could have made three major upgrades at key positions to improve the offense:WR - Darrell Jackson (the Niners got him for nothing. Yes he has durability issues but only Driver is better and a Driver-Jackson combo at WR would be a major source of talent and potential for the Packers).TE - Eric Johnson (the Saints signed him for cheap for one year. Yes he also has durability issues but his talent is evident. He would bring the receiving threat to the position the Packers badly need).RB - Chris Brown (explained above).Yes, all three players have durability issues so there's some risk. But that's offset by the fact all three were available for a very cheap price. So you lose nothing of serious value by bringing them in. It's high risk but there's also high reward. So there were ways for Thompson to make serious talent upgrades offensively without overspending. He chose to ignore all of it because he hates free agency (or sure seems to). That's what frustrates me about the guy. It's one thing to refrain from overspending. I'm fine with that although I do believe when it comes to premium talent there's a reason why they get big bucks. But you can mine for value on the cheap. We all do that in our drafts every year. Maybe someone should create a Free Agent Dominator for Thompson to use each offseason.

He could have brought in Moss, Jackson, and McGahee and it wouldn't have mattered one bit with the offensive line we saw yesterday. They have a big problem there and no amount of talent at the skill positions is going to fix it.

I think the offensive line will be fine. I'm not sold on the talent at RB and TE or the proven talent at WR (other than Driver). I think that is going to be the team's undoing this season. I hope I'm wrong but nothing I saw yesterday changed that belief.

 

[sho nuff]

I'm a big McGahee fan and would have loved for the Packers to trade for him. But let's say Thompson wanted to stay cheap he still could have made three major upgrades at key positions to improve the offense:WR - Darrell Jackson (the Niners got him for nothing. Yes he has durability issues but only Driver is better and a Driver-Jackson combo at WR would be a major source of talent and potential for the Packers).TE - Eric Johnson (the Saints signed him for cheap for one year. Yes he also has durability issues but his talent is evident. He would bring the receiving threat to the position the Packers badly need).RB - Chris Brown (explained above).Yes, all three players have durability issues so there's some risk. But that's offset by the fact all three were available for a very cheap price. So you lose nothing of serious value by bringing them in. It's high risk but there's also high reward. So there were ways for Thompson to make serious talent upgrades offensively without overspending. He chose to ignore all of it because he hates free agency (or sure seems to). That's what frustrates me about the guy. It's one thing to refrain from overspending. I'm fine with that although I do believe when it comes to premium talent there's a reason why they get big bucks. But you can mine for value on the cheap. We all do that in our drafts every year. Maybe someone should create a Free Agent Dominator for Thompson to use each offseason.

WR: Yes, but were you counting on an injury to Jennings right before the regular season started?Perhaps TT knew more about how healthy Jackson is...I don't know. I would have liked to have him in as well.TE: Talk about some durability issues, when has that guy stayed healthy?RB: More durability issues.Its not just risk...why sign 3 injury prone guys. The whole cry would have been about that.And I think some of this is overreaction to a good week 1 by two of those guys.

 

[packersfan]

WR: Yes, but were you counting on an injury to Jennings right before the regular season started?

No, but I wanted a proven talent to start opposite Driver all along. I like Jennings and I think Jones could be a player but I'd MUCH rather have a proven talent at the position.

Perhaps TT knew more about how healthy Jackson is...I don't know. I would have liked to have him in as well.TE: Talk about some durability issues, when has that guy stayed healthy?

One year and he was huge. And yes I realize he has durability issues but you sign him for cheap for one year like the Saints did and you lose nothing if he gets hurt again. You then go back to the stiffs you already had. Where's the downside? There is none.

RB: More durability issues.Its not just risk...why sign 3 injury prone guys. The whole cry would have been about that.And I think some of this is overreaction to a good week 1 by two of those guys.

You sign them because they are significantly better than you have and you're not overspending to get them. So given their talent and the fact all three were cost effective you now significantly increase your chances for success without harming your team in any significant way. You could still draft Jackson in the second round if you want; you could still draft Jones and you could still have Lee and Franks if you want as well. So nothing has changed negatively but everything has potentially changed in terms of possible success. I see no downside to any of the moves I've made and significant potential for upside.

 

[sho nuff]

I'm a big McGahee fan and would have loved for the Packers to trade for him. But let's say Thompson wanted to stay cheap he still could have made three major upgrades at key positions to improve the offense:WR - Darrell Jackson (the Niners got him for nothing. Yes he has durability issues but only Driver is better and a Driver-Jackson combo at WR would be a major source of talent and potential for the Packers).TE - Eric Johnson (the Saints signed him for cheap for one year. Yes he also has durability issues but his talent is evident. He would bring the receiving threat to the position the Packers badly need).RB - Chris Brown (explained above).Yes, all three players have durability issues so there's some risk. But that's offset by the fact all three were available for a very cheap price. So you lose nothing of serious value by bringing them in. It's high risk but there's also high reward. So there were ways for Thompson to make serious talent upgrades offensively without overspending. He chose to ignore all of it because he hates free agency (or sure seems to). That's what frustrates me about the guy. It's one thing to refrain from overspending. I'm fine with that although I do believe when it comes to premium talent there's a reason why they get big bucks. But you can mine for value on the cheap. We all do that in our drafts every year. Maybe someone should create a Free Agent Dominator for Thompson to use each offseason. :(

He could have brought in Moss, Jackson, and McGahee and it wouldn't have mattered one bit with the offensive line we saw yesterday. They have a big problem there and no amount of talent at the skill positions is going to fix it.

I think the offensive line will be fine. I'm not sold on the talent at RB and TE or the proven talent at WR (other than Driver). I think that is going to be the team's undoing this season. I hope I'm wrong but nothing I saw yesterday changed that belief.

The line so far has not shown me to be anything more than RBs have.No holes and Favre was running for his life.TE were not terrible yesterday, so not sure why you are harping on that one.