fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Rumors floating around that he broke the 5th metatarsal in his foot. Didn't see anything posted yet about him hurting his foot at all.
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Dwayne Allen broken foot? (1 Viewer)
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Really? Ive seen articles saying he hurt his foot, nothing that he broke it.
When a player gets a 2nd opinion, it usually means that the 1st opinion was serious and bad news. So they want to get a 2nd opinion before listening to the Dr who gave the first opinion just to make sure and support or reject his case.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
And the rumor is he broke his 5th metatarsal. Thanks for the psa on why guys get 2nd opinions though.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
i imagine thats what the 2nd opinion was for, whether it needs a pin or not.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Haven't seen any specific reports (or rumors) yet. Fifth metatarsal fracture might be considered best case scenario for a foot injury requiring a specialist opinion, though. Would be better than Lisfranc injuries, mid foot sprains, plantar plate injuries...
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=682268
If he does miss time, then it'll be interesting to see who benefits.
Fleener, obviously, but it'll be worth keeping an eye on whether they stay with 2TE and use Justice Cunningham, the 7th round rookie, or play more 3WR sets, which would bump DHB and Hilton.
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Buffaloes
Footballguy
I would imagine this would be the case as well.
Big opportunity for my current favourite deep sleeper Griff Whalen. He could see a good amount of work in the slot in 3WR sets.
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Buffaloes
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
He has my attention too, but I think his snap count is directly correlated to hilton. If hilton is healthy, griff is limited. Dhb while frustrating and inconsistent offers a different dimension. He will need to totally flop and griff go nuts for griff to take his snaps.
Yeah, the chances of him being a fantasy option are slim but it just feels a bit like the stars might be aligning for him.
First we had Brazill's suspension which opened the door to the WR4 job, now we have this which will mean more snaps for the WRs. He's still a deep sleeper, but I've rostered him in every deep league I'm in just in case.
A big blow for the team to lose Allen though, as I think he's the 2nd best all around TE in the league after Gronk.
First we had Brazill's suspension which opened the door to the WR4 job, now we have this which will mean more snaps for the WRs. He's still a deep sleeper, but I've rostered him in every deep league I'm in just in case.
A big blow for the team to lose Allen though, as I think he's the 2nd best all around TE in the league after Gronk.
The specific injury is irrelevant at this moment. The fact that he is getting a 2nd opinion says it all. That means that they didn't like what they heard from the first doctor. Which means it is potentially a serious injury that will cost him some good time.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
of course its relevant. not all foot injuries are the same. big differenence between say a nondisplaced 5th metatarsal stress fx and a lisfranc injury needing surgical stabilization.
What I am saying that it is not important right now. We don't know the specific injury. But we DO know that he is getting an 2nd opinion. They wouldn't get a 2nd opinion if it was a serious injury. You don't get 2nd opinions for sprained ankles or something that will put you in a boot for a couple weeks. So right now, for us needing to know what the specific injury is, is not important. The fact that he is getting a 2nd opinion red flags him and shows that it is a serious injury.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Um that was the point of the whole thread. to throw out there that theres a rumor that the specific injury was a 5th metatarsal fx. And the 2nd opinion was to gauge whether it needed surgery or not.
I don't think you get what I am saying lol. I know the point of the thread. Someone in here wanted a link to a specific injury in order to prove this rumor correct. Or just shoot it down as a false rumor and probably just a rolled ankle. We couldn't provide an article stating the specific injury. But that fact that they are getting a 2nd opinion shows that it is a serious injury that will cost him a good amount of regular season games, and more than just a sprained ankle. What's it to us knowing the exact injury? The fact that it is serious enough that warrants a 2nd opinion and warrants surgery is a red flag telling us not to draft him (for those of us who haven't drafted yet).
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
cause a nondisplaced fx and he prolly doesnt need surgery. even if dispaced he prolly misses the 1st 4-6 games. if its a more serious displaced lisfranc or something that needs surgery etc he might be out part of next season as well. some here play in dynasty leagues.
Buffaloes
Footballguy
Beerguzzler
Footballguy
Take off the rose colored glasses.UKColt said:
GregR
Footballguy
It appears to have come from the twitter feed previously posted: https://twitter.com/coltsinsiderBuffaloes said:
Where he isn't real clear, says something about it not appearing on x-ray, it appears when he steps on it? Not sure if Jene can shed any light if that is likely or not.
JustinHawkins
Footballguy
IF Allen's foot is broke, how far up do you bump Fleener in a PPR redraft? Ahead of F. Davis? Eifert? Keller?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
MAC_32
Footballguy
top ten
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
If I knew they wouldn't ask Fleener to take over Allen's blocking responsibilites, I'd move him top 10.
I don't necessarily believe Allen injury is great news for Fleener. I didn't think he was coming off the field much anyway in this new O.
I don't necessarily believe Allen injury is great news for Fleener. I didn't think he was coming off the field much anyway in this new O.
Rookie_Whisperer
Footballguy
Yeah, wow! Considering he's the 2nd best TE on his own team behind Luck's BFF Fleener. I can't believe just how much some people underrate Fleener, even now.....
No way Fleener is a better TE than Allen. From a fantasy stand point, yes but I am talking about skills as an ALL AROUND TE.
Obviously guys like Witten, Graham, Gonzo, Davis and even Fleener are better fantasy tight ends because they will put up better receiving stats, but Allen is an elite blocker as well as a good receiving threat, so his loss is very big to the team.
metoo
Footballguy
Rookie_Whisperer
Footballguy
I'm sorry, I thought this was a fantasy football site. I'm more concerned with receiving stats since those are the types of leagues I play in. We don't reward points for blocking.
You would almost think they drafted Allen 1st a year ago since he is so much better. You would think he was a 1st rounder or even a 2nd but he was so great that he dropped to the 3rd. I think Fleener was the more talented guy but Allen had the better overall game because of blocking. Not the more talented player at all.
Jene Bramel
Footballguy
Weight-bearing x-rays sometimes show an injury that non-weight-bearing x-rays will not. I'm not certain how likely that occurs with a fifth metatarsal injury. I'm sure Allen had an additional study -- bone scan and/or MRI -- to better evaluate the area. Treatment of foot injuries tends to be more aggressive in active athletes, but it's possible that this could be subtle enough to avoid surgery.
It's interesting that none of the usual suspects are talking about this injury. That's probably fallout from the DHB situation. Multiple usually trustworthy reporters went with the MCL story and gave reasonably specific details that were well out of line with what eventually happened. Feels like that was a leak check of sorts. The same folks may know something, but we probably won't hear about it until the Colts decide to talk.
JustinHawkins
Footballguy
Where there is smoke there is fire....
KingPrawn
Footballguy
JackReacher
Footballguy
Since we are all speculating here, I read the qualifier "confident" as a negative- he could have just Tweeted he would be back very soon, no qualifier if there was not an underlying issue
MAC_32
Footballguy
Fleener is a lousy blocker, Allen is not. Coaching staff won't give Fleener additional blocking duties.
pizzatyme
Footballguy
As a Colts homer, I would call Fleener and Allen a draw right now. Fleener the more gifted receiver, Allen the more gifted blocker.
Based on the Colts desire to run the ball more this season, I'd say Allen is the more valuable player to the team. However, Fleener will outscore Allen if both start fully healthy all year.
Based on the Colts desire to run the ball more this season, I'd say Allen is the more valuable player to the team. However, Fleener will outscore Allen if both start fully healthy all year.
massraider
Footballguy
How about catches, yards, and TDs?
Because Allen had more of those than Fleener.
JFS171
Footballguy
In fairness, Fleener missed time while Allen stayed relatively healthy.
That being said, I like them both. Tried to acquire both but ultimately had to choose one or the other in my dynasty. I chose Fleener with Allen's injury scare, but there's a lot to like for both guys. A definite Gronk and Hernandez vibe, minus the murder allegations.
That being said, I like them both. Tried to acquire both but ultimately had to choose one or the other in my dynasty. I chose Fleener with Allen's injury scare, but there's a lot to like for both guys. A definite Gronk and Hernandez vibe, minus the murder allegations.
massraider
Footballguy
Allen looked better all last preseason and regular season, performed better, and stayed healthy. If you prefer Fleener, fine. The jury is still out on both, and Fleener may well turn out to be better, I just am not sure where the attitude that Fleener is the better fantasy option come from. Thus far, football or fantasy, Allen has been the better player.
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metoo
Footballguy
If you actually watch football Allen is the better option. I've been aquiring Allen in dynasty leagues because of this.
