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Dwayne Allen broken foot? (1 Viewer)

fruity pebbles

Footballguy
Rumors floating around that he broke the 5th metatarsal in his foot. Didn't see anything posted yet about him hurting his foot at all.

 

Aztec9er

Footballguy
It is not a rumor. There are already articles and reports on this. He is now going to get a 2nd opinion on the foot.

 

Aztec9er

Footballguy
Really? Ive seen articles saying he hurt his foot, nothing that he broke it.
When a player gets a 2nd opinion, it usually means that the 1st opinion was serious and bad news. So they want to get a 2nd opinion before listening to the Dr who gave the first opinion just to make sure and support or reject his case.

 

fruity pebbles

Footballguy
Really? Ive seen articles saying he hurt his foot, nothing that he broke it.
When a player gets a 2nd opinion, it usually means that the 1st opinion was serious and bad news. So they want to get a 2nd opinion before listening to the Dr who gave the first opinion just to make sure and support or reject his case.
And the rumor is he broke his 5th metatarsal. Thanks for the psa on why guys get 2nd opinions though.

 

Jene Bramel

Footballguy
Haven't seen any specific reports (or rumors) yet. Fifth metatarsal fracture might be considered best case scenario for a foot injury requiring a specialist opinion, though. Would be better than Lisfranc injuries, mid foot sprains, plantar plate injuries...

 

UKColt

Footballguy
Rumors floating around that he broke the 5th metatarsal in his foot. Didn't see anything posted yet about him hurting his foot at all.
http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=682268

If he does miss time, then it'll be interesting to see who benefits.

Fleener, obviously, but it'll be worth keeping an eye on whether they stay with 2TE and use Justice Cunningham, the 7th round rookie, or play more 3WR sets, which would bump DHB and Hilton.

 
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UKColt

Footballguy
More 3 wr sets, minimal opportunities for second te. Primary use would be as a blocker.
I would imagine this would be the case as well.

Big opportunity for my current favourite deep sleeper Griff Whalen. He could see a good amount of work in the slot in 3WR sets.

 
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UKColt

Footballguy
It is not a rumor. There are already articles and reports on this. He is now going to get a 2nd opinion on the foot.
can you link us to an article plz?
Here's a link:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000228327/article/colts-dwayne-allen-seeks-second-opinion-on-foot-injury
thanks, I meant a link stating that he broke his foot, though.
There isn't one currently.

That is just the favourite rumour at this point.

 

MAC_32

Footballguy
More 3 wr sets, minimal opportunities for second te. Primary use would be as a blocker.
I would imagine this would be the case as well.

Big opportunity for my current favourite deep sleeper Griff Whalen. He could see a good amount of work in the slot in 3WR sets.
He has my attention too, but I think his snap count is directly correlated to hilton. If hilton is healthy, griff is limited. Dhb while frustrating and inconsistent offers a different dimension. He will need to totally flop and griff go nuts for griff to take his snaps.
 

UKColt

Footballguy
Yeah, the chances of him being a fantasy option are slim but it just feels a bit like the stars might be aligning for him.

First we had Brazill's suspension which opened the door to the WR4 job, now we have this which will mean more snaps for the WRs. He's still a deep sleeper, but I've rostered him in every deep league I'm in just in case.

A big blow for the team to lose Allen though, as I think he's the 2nd best all around TE in the league after Gronk.

 

Aztec9er

Footballguy
It is not a rumor. There are already articles and reports on this. He is now going to get a 2nd opinion on the foot.
can you link us to an article plz?
Here's a link:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000228327/article/colts-dwayne-allen-seeks-second-opinion-on-foot-injury
thanks, I meant a link stating that he broke his foot, though.
The specific injury is irrelevant at this moment. The fact that he is getting a 2nd opinion says it all. That means that they didn't like what they heard from the first doctor. Which means it is potentially a serious injury that will cost him some good time.

 

fruity pebbles

Footballguy
It is not a rumor. There are already articles and reports on this. He is now going to get a 2nd opinion on the foot.
can you link us to an article plz?
Here's a link:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000228327/article/colts-dwayne-allen-seeks-second-opinion-on-foot-injury
thanks, I meant a link stating that he broke his foot, though.
The specific injury is irrelevant at this moment. The fact that he is getting a 2nd opinion says it all. That means that they didn't like what they heard from the first doctor. Which means it is potentially a serious injury that will cost him some good time.
of course its relevant. not all foot injuries are the same. big differenence between say a nondisplaced 5th metatarsal stress fx and a lisfranc injury needing surgical stabilization.

 

Aztec9er

Footballguy
What I am saying that it is not important right now. We don't know the specific injury. But we DO know that he is getting an 2nd opinion. They wouldn't get a 2nd opinion if it was a serious injury. You don't get 2nd opinions for sprained ankles or something that will put you in a boot for a couple weeks. So right now, for us needing to know what the specific injury is, is not important. The fact that he is getting a 2nd opinion red flags him and shows that it is a serious injury.

 

fruity pebbles

Footballguy
What I am saying that it is not important right now. We don't know the specific injury. But we DO know that he is getting an 2nd opinion. They wouldn't get a 2nd opinion if it was a serious injury. You don't get 2nd opinions for sprained ankles or something that will put you in a boot for a couple weeks. So right now, for us needing to know what the specific injury is, is not important. The fact that he is getting a 2nd opinion red flags him and shows that it is a serious injury.
Um that was the point of the whole thread. to throw out there that theres a rumor that the specific injury was a 5th metatarsal fx. And the 2nd opinion was to gauge whether it needed surgery or not.

 

Aztec9er

Footballguy
What I am saying that it is not important right now. We don't know the specific injury. But we DO know that he is getting an 2nd opinion. They wouldn't get a 2nd opinion if it was a serious injury. You don't get 2nd opinions for sprained ankles or something that will put you in a boot for a couple weeks. So right now, for us needing to know what the specific injury is, is not important. The fact that he is getting a 2nd opinion red flags him and shows that it is a serious injury.
Um that was the point of the whole thread. to throw out there that theres a rumor that the specific injury was a 5th metatarsal fx. And the 2nd opinion was to gauge whether it needed surgery or not.
I don't think you get what I am saying lol. I know the point of the thread. Someone in here wanted a link to a specific injury in order to prove this rumor correct. Or just shoot it down as a false rumor and probably just a rolled ankle. We couldn't provide an article stating the specific injury. But that fact that they are getting a 2nd opinion shows that it is a serious injury that will cost him a good amount of regular season games, and more than just a sprained ankle. What's it to us knowing the exact injury? The fact that it is serious enough that warrants a 2nd opinion and warrants surgery is a red flag telling us not to draft him (for those of us who haven't drafted yet).

 

Bob Magaw

Footballguy
BUF DE mario williams went for second opinion (on his foot, as well) and was allowed to return to practice...

second opinion doesn't have to be death blow to allen's 2013 season...

 
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fruity pebbles

Footballguy
cause a nondisplaced fx and he prolly doesnt need surgery. even if dispaced he prolly misses the 1st 4-6 games. if its a more serious displaced lisfranc or something that needs surgery etc he might be out part of next season as well. some here play in dynasty leagues.

 

Buffaloes

Footballguy
It is not a rumor. There are already articles and reports on this. He is now going to get a 2nd opinion on the foot.
can you link us to an article plz?
Here's a link:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000228327/article/colts-dwayne-allen-seeks-second-opinion-on-foot-injury
thanks, I meant a link stating that he broke his foot, though.
The specific injury is irrelevant at this moment.
disagree

 

Beerguzzler

Footballguy
UKColt said:
Yeah, the chances of him being a fantasy option are slim but it just feels a bit like the stars might be aligning for him.

First we had Brazill's suspension which opened the door to the WR4 job, now we have this which will mean more snaps for the WRs. He's still a deep sleeper, but I've rostered him in every deep league I'm in just in case.

A big blow for the team to lose Allen though, as I think he's the 2nd best all around TE in the league after Gronk.
Take off the rose colored glasses.

 

GregR

Footballguy
Buffaloes said:
identikit said:
Buffaloes said:
Aztec9er said:
It is not a rumor. There are already articles and reports on this. He is now going to get a 2nd opinion on the foot.
can you link us to an article plz?
Here's a link:http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000228327/article/colts-dwayne-allen-seeks-second-opinion-on-foot-injury
thanks, I meant a link stating that he broke his foot, though.
It appears to have come from the twitter feed previously posted: https://twitter.com/coltsinsider

Where he isn't real clear, says something about it not appearing on x-ray, it appears when he steps on it? Not sure if Jene can shed any light if that is likely or not.

Dan Graham ‏@coltsinsider 9 Aug

#Colts I am hearing stress fracture to the 5th Metatarsal for Dwayne Allen - here is the odd part the xray only shows up when you step on -

Dan Graham ‏@coltsinsider 9 Aug

- Not a normal source for me. So please take this at face value. #Colts

Dan Graham ‏@coltsinsider 9 Aug

#Colts I am told the second opinion has to do with procedure. When you step the fracture appears as the bone splits. "THIS IS NOT CONFIRMED"
 

Craig_MiamiFL

Footballguy
If I knew they wouldn't ask Fleener to take over Allen's blocking responsibilites, I'd move him top 10.

I don't necessarily believe Allen injury is great news for Fleener. I didn't think he was coming off the field much anyway in this new O.

 

Rookie_Whisperer

Footballguy
UKColt said:
Yeah, the chances of him being a fantasy option are slim but it just feels a bit like the stars might be aligning for him.

First we had Brazill's suspension which opened the door to the WR4 job, now we have this which will mean more snaps for the WRs. He's still a deep sleeper, but I've rostered him in every deep league I'm in just in case.

A big blow for the team to lose Allen though, as I think he's the 2nd best all around TE in the league after Gronk.
Take off the rose colored glasses.
Yeah, wow! Considering he's the 2nd best TE on his own team behind Luck's BFF Fleener. I can't believe just how much some people underrate Fleener, even now.....

 

UKColt

Footballguy
UKColt said:
Yeah, the chances of him being a fantasy option are slim but it just feels a bit like the stars might be aligning for him.

First we had Brazill's suspension which opened the door to the WR4 job, now we have this which will mean more snaps for the WRs. He's still a deep sleeper, but I've rostered him in every deep league I'm in just in case.

A big blow for the team to lose Allen though, as I think he's the 2nd best all around TE in the league after Gronk.
Take off the rose colored glasses.
Yeah, wow! Considering he's the 2nd best TE on his own team behind Luck's BFF Fleener. I can't believe just how much some people underrate Fleener, even now.....
No way Fleener is a better TE than Allen. From a fantasy stand point, yes but I am talking about skills as an ALL AROUND TE.

Obviously guys like Witten, Graham, Gonzo, Davis and even Fleener are better fantasy tight ends because they will put up better receiving stats, but Allen is an elite blocker as well as a good receiving threat, so his loss is very big to the team.

 

metoo

Footballguy
UKColt said:
Yeah, the chances of him being a fantasy option are slim but it just feels a bit like the stars might be aligning for him.

First we had Brazill's suspension which opened the door to the WR4 job, now we have this which will mean more snaps for the WRs. He's still a deep sleeper, but I've rostered him in every deep league I'm in just in case.

A big blow for the team to lose Allen though, as I think he's the 2nd best all around TE in the league after Gronk.
Take off the rose colored glasses.
Yeah, wow! Considering he's the 2nd best TE on his own team behind Luck's BFF Fleener. I can't believe just how much some people underrate Fleener, even now.....
He is the best TE on the Colts. Talent overrules BFF.

 

Rookie_Whisperer

Footballguy
UKColt said:
Yeah, the chances of him being a fantasy option are slim but it just feels a bit like the stars might be aligning for him.

First we had Brazill's suspension which opened the door to the WR4 job, now we have this which will mean more snaps for the WRs. He's still a deep sleeper, but I've rostered him in every deep league I'm in just in case.

A big blow for the team to lose Allen though, as I think he's the 2nd best all around TE in the league after Gronk.
Take off the rose colored glasses.
Yeah, wow! Considering he's the 2nd best TE on his own team behind Luck's BFF Fleener. I can't believe just how much some people underrate Fleener, even now.....
No way Fleener is a better TE than Allen. From a fantasy stand point, yes but I am talking about skills as an ALL AROUND TE.

Obviously guys like Witten, Graham, Gonzo, Davis and even Fleener are better fantasy tight ends because they will put up better receiving stats, but Allen is an elite blocker as well as a good receiving threat, so his loss is very big to the team.
I'm sorry, I thought this was a fantasy football site. I'm more concerned with receiving stats since those are the types of leagues I play in. We don't reward points for blocking.

 

Crippler

IBL Representative
You would almost think they drafted Allen 1st a year ago since he is so much better. You would think he was a 1st rounder or even a 2nd but he was so great that he dropped to the 3rd. I think Fleener was the more talented guy but Allen had the better overall game because of blocking. Not the more talented player at all.

 

UKColt

Footballguy
UKColt said:
Yeah, the chances of him being a fantasy option are slim but it just feels a bit like the stars might be aligning for him.

First we had Brazill's suspension which opened the door to the WR4 job, now we have this which will mean more snaps for the WRs. He's still a deep sleeper, but I've rostered him in every deep league I'm in just in case.

A big blow for the team to lose Allen though, as I think he's the 2nd best all around TE in the league after Gronk.
Take off the rose colored glasses.
Yeah, wow! Considering he's the 2nd best TE on his own team behind Luck's BFF Fleener. I can't believe just how much some people underrate Fleener, even now.....
No way Fleener is a better TE than Allen. From a fantasy stand point, yes but I am talking about skills as an ALL AROUND TE.

Obviously guys like Witten, Graham, Gonzo, Davis and even Fleener are better fantasy tight ends because they will put up better receiving stats, but Allen is an elite blocker as well as a good receiving threat, so his loss is very big to the team.
I'm sorry, I thought this was a fantasy football site. I'm more concerned with receiving stats since those are the types of leagues I play in. We don't reward points for blocking.
Sorry, I'll try and avoid football talk from now on.

 

Jene Bramel

Footballguy
Buffaloes said:
identikit said:
Buffaloes said:
Aztec9er said:
It is not a rumor. There are already articles and reports on this. He is now going to get a 2nd opinion on the foot.
can you link us to an article plz?
Here's a link:http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000228327/article/colts-dwayne-allen-seeks-second-opinion-on-foot-injury
thanks, I meant a link stating that he broke his foot, though.
It appears to have come from the twitter feed previously posted: https://twitter.com/coltsinsider

Where he isn't real clear, says something about it not appearing on x-ray, it appears when he steps on it? Not sure if Jene can shed any light if that is likely or not.

Dan Graham ‏@coltsinsider 9 Aug

#Colts I am hearing stress fracture to the 5th Metatarsal for Dwayne Allen - here is the odd part the xray only shows up when you step on -

Dan Graham ‏@coltsinsider 9 Aug

- Not a normal source for me. So please take this at face value. #Colts

Dan Graham ‏@coltsinsider 9 Aug

#Colts I am told the second opinion has to do with procedure. When you step the fracture appears as the bone splits. "THIS IS NOT CONFIRMED"
Weight-bearing x-rays sometimes show an injury that non-weight-bearing x-rays will not. I'm not certain how likely that occurs with a fifth metatarsal injury. I'm sure Allen had an additional study -- bone scan and/or MRI -- to better evaluate the area. Treatment of foot injuries tends to be more aggressive in active athletes, but it's possible that this could be subtle enough to avoid surgery.

It's interesting that none of the usual suspects are talking about this injury. That's probably fallout from the DHB situation. Multiple usually trustworthy reporters went with the MCL story and gave reasonably specific details that were well out of line with what eventually happened. Feels like that was a leak check of sorts. The same folks may know something, but we probably won't hear about it until the Colts decide to talk.

 

KingPrawn

Footballguy
Where there is smoke there is fire....
or not

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7452/dwayne-allen


Colts TE Dwayne Allen (foot) is inactive for Sunday's preseason opener, but is "confident" he'll soon return to practice.
Allen expects to be back "very soon." There hasn't been any official word on Allen's second opinion, but it's safe to surmise he received good news. It sounds like there's a good chance he'll return to practice this week, but it's too early to speculate on his status for Indy's second preseason game next Sunday. Aug 11 - 12:01 PM
Source: Dwayne Allen on Twitter
 

JackReacher

Footballguy
Since we are all speculating here, I read the qualifier "confident" as a negative- he could have just Tweeted he would be back very soon, no qualifier if there was not an underlying issue

 

MAC_32

Footballguy
If I knew they wouldn't ask Fleener to take over Allen's blocking responsibilites, I'd move him top 10.

I don't necessarily believe Allen injury is great news for Fleener. I didn't think he was coming off the field much anyway in this new O.
Fleener is a lousy blocker, Allen is not. Coaching staff won't give Fleener additional blocking duties.
 

pizzatyme

Footballguy
As a Colts homer, I would call Fleener and Allen a draw right now. Fleener the more gifted receiver, Allen the more gifted blocker.

Based on the Colts desire to run the ball more this season, I'd say Allen is the more valuable player to the team. However, Fleener will outscore Allen if both start fully healthy all year.

 

massraider

Footballguy
UKColt said:
Yeah, the chances of him being a fantasy option are slim but it just feels a bit like the stars might be aligning for him.

First we had Brazill's suspension which opened the door to the WR4 job, now we have this which will mean more snaps for the WRs. He's still a deep sleeper, but I've rostered him in every deep league I'm in just in case.

A big blow for the team to lose Allen though, as I think he's the 2nd best all around TE in the league after Gronk.
Take off the rose colored glasses.
Yeah, wow! Considering he's the 2nd best TE on his own team behind Luck's BFF Fleener. I can't believe just how much some people underrate Fleener, even now.....
No way Fleener is a better TE than Allen. From a fantasy stand point, yes but I am talking about skills as an ALL AROUND TE.

Obviously guys like Witten, Graham, Gonzo, Davis and even Fleener are better fantasy tight ends because they will put up better receiving stats, but Allen is an elite blocker as well as a good receiving threat, so his loss is very big to the team.
I'm sorry, I thought this was a fantasy football site. I'm more concerned with receiving stats since those are the types of leagues I play in. We don't reward points for blocking.
How about catches, yards, and TDs?

Because Allen had more of those than Fleener.

 

JFS171

Footballguy
In fairness, Fleener missed time while Allen stayed relatively healthy.

That being said, I like them both. Tried to acquire both but ultimately had to choose one or the other in my dynasty. I chose Fleener with Allen's injury scare, but there's a lot to like for both guys. A definite Gronk and Hernandez vibe, minus the murder allegations.

 

massraider

Footballguy
Allen looked better all last preseason and regular season, performed better, and stayed healthy. If you prefer Fleener, fine. The jury is still out on both, and Fleener may well turn out to be better, I just am not sure where the attitude that Fleener is the better fantasy option come from. Thus far, football or fantasy, Allen has been the better player.

 
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metoo

Footballguy
Allen looked better all last preseason and regular season, performed better, and stayed healthy. If you prefer Fleener, fine. The jury is still out on both, and Fleener may well turn out to be better, I just am not sure where the attitude that Fleener is the better fantasy option come from. Thus far, football or fantasy, Allen has been the better player.
:goodposting:

If you actually watch football Allen is the better option. I've been aquiring Allen in dynasty leagues because of this.

 

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