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So Dwayne Bowe completely failed to produce in Week 1 but actually managed to put up a good number of yards and netted 11 points in my league. With KC looking as terrible as they have so far I'd think it is kind of a "sell high" point for him even though it wasn't *that* high. I'm personally trying to get Dez Bryant for him but I'm curious what some of the other owners out there are thinking about doing with him.

 
I actually think Bowe's value gets a boost with the loss of Charles. This team will be throwing a ton and Bowe will get the lions share of any yards they can produce through the air.

 
'ponchsox said:
I actually think Bowe's value gets a boost with the loss of Charles. This team will be throwing a ton and Bowe will get the lions share of any yards they can produce through the air.
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I don't see how anyone would trade Dez for him. He should see more targets with Charles out, but I question whether he can beat double coverage. With Charles out, won't teams scheme to stop Bowe? I recall in years past that he struggled when teams doubled him.I do think he is a sell NOW but I would put his value much lower than Dez.
 
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Bowe was eliminated from being a factor last year each and every time a legit corner matched up on him. I am not looking at the schedule but I think its safe to say that he won't be facing that rediculously easy (all time maybe) schedule from last year. IIRC, he also lucked out and faced Denver once when Bailey was out (but then the next time around, Bailey shut him down completely) and Asomghua was out in their matchup too.

Point being, if the schedule has players that can hold him in check, they will because you would have to think that taking him away will leave the Chiefs dead in the water.

 
KC is likely to be awful this year. Bowe isn't going to score 15 TDs, but I doubt many people that drafted him expected that. Bowe came into the league 4 years ago, and as a rookie playing with Damon Huard and Brodie Croyle, he put up 70-995-5 on a 4-12 KC team. The following year, the team was actually worse (2-14), and with primarily Tyler Thigpen at QB, Bowe put up 86-1022-7. His suspension in 2009 cost him for much of that year, but he came back to post similar numbers in 2010, with an obvious large uptick in TDs.

Basically--the guy is a talented WR that has produced fairly well with bad QBs on awful teams. I would expect him to finish the year right around 75-1000-6, which should be right in the middle of WR2 territory. Probably slightly below what he was drafted at, but nothing to cost your team that much.

 
Bowe is a very frustrating WR to own. If you start him, you have to ride him pretty much the entire season because the game you decide to bench him is when he explodes for 150/2 TDs. I drafted him as a WR2/3 so I tempered my expectations.

 
For what it's worth, he was just traded straight up for Mark Ingram, in a nonppr 12 team redraft. The ex-owner of Bowe had McCoy, Forte and Bush as his only rbs. And the guy receiving Bowe had Calvin, Harvin, and Green as his wrs. Not sure if that helps you gauge his current value or not, but thought I'd throw it out there.

 
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'ponchsox said:
What are Bowe owners doing with him? Benching him or sticking with him?
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I've been shopping him around. Best offer that I've received to date was Ryan Mathews which I'm still considering. My other wr's are calvin johnson, julio jones, deion branch, and mccluster (yahoo has him as a RB/WR). As you can see I'm not very deep at wr so I'm having a hard time letting him go.
 
Very strongly considering benching Bowe this weekend at SD, even though he's my WR2. If you look at the game logs, he's been bottled up the last two years against the Chargers. In 2009 he produced 2/11/1 in his one game against San Diego, and in 2010, he produced 1/13 and 1/3 stinkers. So 4/27/1 in 2 years of KC/SD matchups for D Bowe. For this week only, Bowe owners have to consider safer options.

 
I remember we were having these same discussions about Bowe after week 2 or 3 last season. Then, he carried a lot of teams to the playoffs (although he failed many teams during the playoffs). He had a decent week last week and he'll be fine the rest of the season as a solid # 2 (at the worst). KC stinks but he's still the main guy (now more than ever) in that offense. They'll be playing from behind a lot so I don't see the problem.

 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
Very strongly considering benching Bowe this weekend at SD, even though he's my WR2. If you look at the game logs, he's been bottled up the last two years against the Chargers. In 2009 he produced 2/11/1 in his one game against San Diego, and in 2010, he produced 1/13 and 1/3 stinkers. So 4/27/1 in 2 years of KC/SD matchups for D Bowe. For this week only, Bowe owners have to consider safer options.
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Selective bias. How about you list the game against SD prior to the ones you cherry-picked?
 
'loose circuits said:
bad teams= lots of garbage passing/receiving yards and last I checked you still get fantasy points for those...
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This.He's gonna have a stat line 0f 3 for 35 yards midway thru the 3rd quarter, and in garbage time he's gonna get more looks and have solid stats at the end of the game. It will be wash, rinse, repeat the rest of the year.In dynasty, he's a hold. He's in the last year of his contract, and without Weis running this offense, he's getting production only bc of the prevent defenses he's seeing. I'll be buying on the cheap, hopinghe does not get resigned
 
'Warrior said:
'Raiderfan32904 said:
Very strongly considering benching Bowe this weekend at SD, even though he's my WR2. If you look at the game logs, he's been bottled up the last two years against the Chargers. In 2009 he produced 2/11/1 in his one game against San Diego, and in 2010, he produced 1/13 and 1/3 stinkers. So 4/27/1 in 2 years of KC/SD matchups for D Bowe. For this week only, Bowe owners have to consider safer options.
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Selective bias. How about you list the game against SD prior to the ones you cherry-picked?
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No, selective bias would be choosing every other game or omitting a strong game. The fact is that D. Bowe has been garbage against San Diego from the 2009 season up to the end of the 2010 season. Tell me what I left out? Where was I being selective? And with Cassel among the dregs of the NFL QB's this year, and Bowe's temperment for checking out of games that aren't competitive (and this is just my opinion). Tell me a reason to feel bullish about Bowe at the Chargers?ETA: And to really drive home my point, 2009 was Cassel's first year with the Chiefs, so are you really going to gauge Bowe's earlier stats against the Chargers as worth mentioning in this conversation? Don't you think 2 years of data is a trend?
 
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I was just able to move him for Dez Bryant. As others have cited, I worry about the Chief offense without Charlie Weis calling the shots.

 
with... Bowe's temperment for checking out of games that aren't competitive (and this is just my opinion)

Someone above mentioned that this is the last year of his contract. I don't know this for certain; I don't follow contract situations that closely. But if true, it could prevent Bowe from checking out of games. He is likely hoping to land a big contract after this season.

 
As a WR 3/flex I'm very happy to roll him out each week and hope for garbage time. I don't think there's a team in the league that's going to have more garbage time than KC after all.

 
Some don't like this format but I do. We have restricted rosters until week 10. 2QB,4RB,4WR,2TE,2PK,2DEF. I can't trade Bowe for a RB so it would have to be for a WR. At his current production there's not much activitiy from people wanting him. There's still guys on the WW producing more. I think he holds more value by me holding on to him and hope he beats some double teams occassionally. I don't have to start him. I have Stevie Johnson, Jordy Nelson & Roddy White. White's not doing much either. Praying he busts loose. So after week 2 I have 2 WR's (Bowe & White) that I can't really do much with. I think Bowe will have his games with good production simply by volume of targets because the Chiefs will be plsying from behind.

If the Chiefs get any kind of production out of the running game with old man Jones, utility guy McCluster and Ron'gimme a shot'McClain Bowe may come around somewhat. That too is gonna largely depend as well on the play of Matt Cassel. It'll be his play more than the running game that'll dictate how Bowe's gonna do. If Cassel struggles so will Bowe.

 
I don't expect the same production from him as last year but I do believe that KC will have to throw it alot. They are just terrible and I don't see any evidence that makes me think they will pull it together, especially with that ridiculous coach they have.

If you drafted Bowe counting on him as your WR1, that's a pretty risky proposition.

 
'Steed said:
This looks identical to the 2010 week 2 threads for Dwayne Bowe.
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You can't compare 2010 too this season. First off, Weiss is gone. Second Charles is injured for the season. It's true Bowe may get a decent amount of yards, but if the Chiefs running game can't do its part drives will stall and I would also think less scoring opportunities for Bowe as well. All factors have to be taken into consideration. Now if the Chiefs can get their running game going then Bowe will probably have a decent season, however, that is yet to be determined.
 
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