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[Dynasty] 2019 NFL Draft Class (1 Viewer)

Jello_Biafra said:
Do they though? I know that's the popular thing to say about dynasty, but it's not always true. 
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Not always but it flipped massive with the dismissal of Fisher and the balls to hire an inexperienced HC that knows O. 

Let's say Fisher gets hired in Balt or Mia. Well, that continues as a fantasy wasteland. Let's say Riley gets hired by CLE. That potentially huge but does come with risk. You want to become an elite team, it takes risks. You want to be mediocre, that is Fisher's intro on his resume.

 
lod001 said:
Well, hold on there, lamar to any wr will never be a stud connection, ever.
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yeah, that's why I'm hoping Baltimore goes for Harris round 1 and passes on a WR. It's like having Vick... hes not going to produce a stud WR. 

Whomever the Jets, 49ers, and Browns select in this draft (assuming to draft one round 1 or 2) likely goes near the top of my draft board. Maybe even Arizona if they go for a WR. 

 
Pro Football Focus notes that FAU junior RB Devin Singletary leads all of the FBS in forcing missed tackles.

Singletary has made a whopping 89 tacklers miss in 2018, and there's still one game left. He also has a 143.4 elusive rating, which is also tops in the FBS. Singletary hasn't been quite as good as last year -- nor has Florida Atlantic, if we're being honest -- but he's still incredibly productive, and if he enters the draft he'll be one of the first running backs off the board.

Source: PFF College on Twitter 

Nov 21 - 4:23 PM
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The Athletic's Dane Brugler believes it's "past due" time to take Washington State senior QB Gardner Minshew seriously.

All Minshew has done since transferring to Washington State from East Carolina is put up some of the best -- if not the best -- numbers in the country, and he has the Cougars in contention for not just a Pac-12 title, but a possible playoff birth if they win out. "Minshew has exceptional field vision and processes the action very quickly, anticipating and striking when the passing window is there," writes Brugler. "He delivers catchable balls with touch and is comfortable throwing from a confined pocket." There will be concerns about his arm strength and the system he plays in, but the success of Jared Goff and Pat Mahomes after playing in those types of systems should address the latter. The former will likely hurt his stock, but Minshew has been too successful in 2018 to not consider a legitimate draft prospect.

Source: The Athletic 

Nov 21 - 3:29 PM
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Faust said:
The Athletic's Dane Brugler believes it's "past due" time to take Washington State senior QB Gardner Minshew seriously.

All Minshew has done since transferring to Washington State from East Carolina is put up some of the best -- if not the best -- numbers in the country, and he has the Cougars in contention for not just a Pac-12 title, but a possible playoff birth if they win out. "Minshew has exceptional field vision and processes the action very quickly, anticipating and striking when the passing window is there," writes Brugler. "He delivers catchable balls with touch and is comfortable throwing from a confined pocket." There will be concerns about his arm strength and the system he plays in, but the success of Jared Goff and Pat Mahomes after playing in those types of systems should address the latter. The former will likely hurt his stock, but Minshew has been too successful in 2018 to not consider a legitimate draft prospect.

Source: The Athletic 

Nov 21 - 3:29 PM
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Love the guy but IIRC he avg 5.2 a carry or something like that. It may not be anything but especially yet I haven’t watch a single one of his games this year.

Tex

 
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JohnnyU said:
Yes, but that 168 lbs bothers me.
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Me too. Like to see him about 180. I think he can get there because he showed up there in OK at 140 I believe. He just smoked the DB tonight. he's gonna need an accurate QB though with a big arm. He won't be winning 50-50 balls like the bigger receivers.

https://newsok.com/article/5606863/oklahoma-receiver-marquise-brown-makes-strides-thanks-to-beach-work

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2801187-how-marquise-brown-went-from-140-pound-juco-wr-to-cfbs-most-dangerous-player

 
lod001 said:
Me too. Like to see him about 180. I think he can get there because he showed up there in OK at 140 I believe. He just smoked the DB tonight. he's gonna need an accurate QB though with a big arm. He won't be winning 50-50 balls like the bigger receivers.

https://newsok.com/article/5606863/oklahoma-receiver-marquise-brown-makes-strides-thanks-to-beach-work

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2801187-how-marquise-brown-went-from-140-pound-juco-wr-to-cfbs-most-dangerous-player
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If he's drafted by a team with a good QB I might consider him around 1.06 in dynasty drafts

 
lod001 said:
What if he happened to go to KC or LAR which seems highly unlikely?
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Doesn't KC already have a player like him?  Lots of mouths to feed in both scenarios, especially in LA.   I wouldn't consider either team a great fit even though both have great QBs.

 
RB Dexter Williams may be a guy to watch tomorrow when ND plays USC. He's been coming on after missing the 1st 4 games. He's got some speed to go with size. Not a lot of reps until this year but they are feeding him the ball now.

 
lod001 said:
RB Dexter Williams may be a guy to watch tomorrow when ND plays USC. He's been coming on after missing the 1st 4 games. He's got some speed to go with size. Not a lot of reps until this year but they are feeding him the ball now.
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I believe anything you say. you've got your thumb on the pulse of this clas pretty good 

 
Dr. Dan said:
I believe anything you say. you've got your thumb on the pulse of this clas pretty good 
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That's what happens when you are sitting on the couch next to your stud RB, Leveon Bell, eating potato chips, at 1-10. You start looking at next year's class.

Disclaimer: I'm fantastic at judging QB/WR talent, but totally suck at judging RB talent. I blew it this past year, talking myself out of Nick Chubb because I was targeting Baker Mayfield. I went with Ronald Jones instead because that O was so powerful, all he should have had to do is run through huge holes. 

 
reggio1 said:
Is there a consensus top RB or WR in this upcoming draft so far?
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I'll give you my 5 in no particular order right now but it will change after the draft, assuming they all declare.

RB: Rodney Anderson, Miles Sanders, Zach Moss, David Montgomery, Harris- I'm no RB guru and while I liked Harris last year, I also am not sold on him as the #1 RB.

WR: N'Keal Harry, Marquise Brown, Hakeem Butler, D.K. Metcalf. Riley Ridley

 
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reggio1 said:
Is there a consensus top RB or WR in this upcoming draft so far?
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I don't think there is consensus yet but it seems that David Montgomery tops the RB list for most. N'Keal Harry probably the favorite at WR with lots of competition. 

 
jeter23 said:
I don't think there is consensus yet but it seems that David Montgomery tops the RB list for most. N'Keal Harry probably the favorite at WR with lots of competition. 
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Forgot about him and Devin Singletary has to be coming out. He has a ton of carries on his body but so did Kareem hunt. Plus he's caught a good # of passes in college.

 
Dr. Dan said:
GMTA

I'm planning on owning at least 3 of these guys, likely 4 or 5 in one of my leagues 
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Wish I had that. I have to pick one of them. I won't be taking who goes to Balt, Buf, or JAX and probably not OAK among others. Gruden is a clown. I will give preference to the guy that SF takes and CLE if they add one of these guys.

 
lod001 said:
Wish I had that. I have to pick one of them. I won't be taking who goes to Balt, Buf, or JAX and probably not OAK among others. Gruden is a clown. I will give preference to the guy that SF takes and CLE if they add one of these guys.
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I could use rb help, but I'm not desperate. I am much deeper at wr from 2017 and 2018.

of the 6 teams that miss the playoffs I'll have 4, maybe 5 picks. 1 pick will make the playoffs. potentially I'll have the top 4. if I miss, I'll likely win the consolation and get 1.13. so I expect to land some nice wr talent and will likely reach for anderson. I think it's a great draft to build wr stock for the future, potentially flip for big gains.

I talked myself out of chubb too in one league and traded up for him in another. the one I have him in I'm super shallow at wr and deep at rb so I'm liking my three 1sts in that league

 
lod001 said:
I'll give you my 5 in no particular order right now but it will change after the draft, assuming they all declare.

RB: Rodney Anderson, Miles Sanders, Zach Moss, David Montgomery, Harris- I'm no RB guru and while I liked Harris last year, I also am not sold on him as the #1 RB.

WR: N'Keal Harry, Marquise Brown, Hakeem Butler, D.K. Metcalf. Riley Ridley
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I’m somewhat intrigued by this RB class because most of them will fall down the board with the WRs at the top. When you’re a contender in most leagues and can’t get the high draft picks without gross overpays or tremendously poor luck (or good luck depending on how you look at it), these drafts offer the chance to land a starting RB without paying the gross premium — if you draft well. 

As of now, it feels like Harris is the safe floor guy. He may not be special, but he could also play a lead role for years in the NFL.

I’ll be very curious to see Anderson test after all the injuries. I agree they look like bad luck more than chronic injury proneness, but the can take their toll over time on athleticism. 

Montgomery is intriguing as a guy that likely outplays his measureables and seems to be pretty elusive. 

The wild cards for me are Zack Moss and Elijah Holyfield as of right now, though others are likely to emerge as we sort out who’s declaring and who’s staying in school. 

 
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JFS171 said:
I’m somewhat intrigued by this RB class because most of them will fall down the board with the WRs at the top. When you’re a contender in most leagues and can’t get the high draft picks without gross overpays or tremendously poor luck (or good luck depending on how you look at it), these drafts offer the chance to land a starting RB without paying the gross premium — if you draft well. 

As of now, it feels like Harris is the safe floor guy. He may not be special, but he could also play a lead role for years in the NFL.

I’ll be very curious to see Anderson test after all the injuries. I agree they look like bad luck more than chronic injury proneness, but the can take their toll over time on athleticism. 

Montgomery is intriguing as a guy that likely outplays his measureables and seems to be pretty elusive. 

The wild cards for me are Zack Moss and Elijah Holyfield as of right now, though others are likely to emerge as we sort out who’s declaring and who’s staying in school. 
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Don't sleep on Benny Snell Jr.  He can definitely be a bell cow at the NFL level and is very good between the tackles and has the chops to run it outside as well.  I don't see a lot of long speed in him, but he has great vision and always makes yards after contact.

 
JFS171 said:
I’m somewhat intrigued by this RB class because most of them will fall down the board with the WRs at the top. When you’re a contender in most leagues and can’t get the high draft picks without gross overpays or tremendously poor luck (or good luck depending on how you look at it), these drafts offer the chance to land a starting RB without paying the gross premium — if you draft well. 

As of now, it feels like Harris is the safe floor guy. He may not be special, but he could also play a lead role for years in the NFL.

I’ll be very curious to see Anderson test after all the injuries. I agree they look like bad luck more than chronic injury proneness, but the can take their toll over time on athleticism. 

Montgomery is intriguing as a guy that likely outplays his measureables and seems to be pretty elusive. 

The wild cards for me are Zack Moss and Elijah Holyfield as of right now, though others are likely to emerge as we sort out who’s declaring and who’s staying in school. 
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While I agree with this in general, at the end of the day this could very well be a class like 2016 for RB. Guys like Procise and Booker. 

 
JohnnyU said:
I like Benny Snell Jr.  I hope he ends up in a good situation. 
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Solid RB but doesn't have speed. His long run over the last 7 games is 22 yards over 160 carries.

Situation will dictate if he become a good fantasy RB. I think one of the reasons Howard is not in catching passes is because he's slow and they want a fast guy to do that job.

 
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lod001 said:
Solid RB but doesn't have speed. His long run over the last 7 games is 22 yards over 160 carries.
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I agree, he doesn't seem to have long speed, but he is fantastic between the tackles and has great vision.  He has 3654 yards, 5.3 avg, and 44 TDs for his career, so he has a nose for the end zone.  I like to refer to him as a poor man's Damien Harris. 

 
Dr. Dan said:
The more I look at this rb class the more I get bummed about everyone but maybe 2 or 3 guys
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That's why I want to see more of the ND RB. He plays tonight at 8:00. He's got the size and speed. If Rodney Anderson had no injuries he's probably go #1 to me if the right team drafted him. When you pick #1, you can't risk a guy with that kind much injury history even if some of it is freak injury. Gore went to me at 2.01 way back whenever because everyone was afraid of his 2 ACLs in college. He compensated for the bad pick of BMW at 1.01.

There are guys but no Saquon, stick him in there day one and roll.

The better RB class comes next year I believe.

 
lod001 said:
That's why I want to see more of the ND RB. He plays tonight at 8:00. He's got the size and speed. If Rodney Anderson had no injuries he's probably go #1 to me if the right team drafted him. When you pick #1, you can't risk a guy with that kind much injury history even if some of it is freak injury. Gore went to me at 2.01 way back whenever because everyone was afraid of his 2 ACLs in college. He compensated for the bad pick of BMW at 1.01.

There are guys but no Saquon, stick him in there day one and roll.

The better RB class comes next year I believe.
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2020 should be better. 

What are your thoughts on Trayveon Williams, Tex Tech

ETA: He reminds me a lot of Aaron Jones so I obviously am intrigued

 
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Dr. Dan said:
2020 should be better. 

What are your thoughts on Trayveon Williams, Tex Tech

ETA: He reminds me a lot of Aaron Jones so I obviously am intrigued
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Just looked at some highlights on youtube. Nice comparison. He's got one thing Jones doesn't have, experience catching the ball. However, guys this size are all coaching dependent. I thought Gio Bernard was gonna be electric. He never got handed the starting gig, then when he got some games strung together, he got hurt every time. If you are a smaller RB in today's game, you better be loaded with speed. --> Cohen, Brieda for example. Gio doesn't have speed like they do.

 
lod001 said:
RB Dexter Williams may be a guy to watch tomorrow when ND plays USC. He's been coming on after missing the 1st 4 games. He's got some speed to go with size. Not a lot of reps until this year but they are feeding him the ball now.
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Solid game tonight running and receiving.

 
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