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[Dynasty] 2023 NFL Draft Class (2 Viewers)

eighsse2 said:
Leroy Hoard said:
The Invited 17. All others not welcome.

C.J. Stroud, Bryce Young among 17 prospects who will attend 2023 NFL Draft

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Are these for sure the only invitees? Or did some turn it down? (e.g., Quentin Johnston?)
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Good point. Every year they show some draftees from their homes. One year Joe Thomas decided he'd rather go fishing with his dad. One would think they would point out any highly ranked guys that turned down the invite.
 
 
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@benbbaldwin
There's a mountain of evidence that teams should not be drafting RBs in the first round (and probably beyond that as well) and I think it's pretty much a closed case at this point.
Hot take that I 70% believe: it's an even worse idea to draft a TE in the first round
 
NFL Draft Pick Bust Rate Remains Very High More analytics haven’t increased the success rate
...based on a study of 1996-2016 draft picks. The results, which are based on the Pro Football Reference AV metric, are sobering:
  • 16.7% didn’t play for the team that drafted them
  • 37% were considered useless. They either didn’t play much or didn’t make the team.
  • 15.3% were considered poor. Had limited playing time and didn’t do well in the time they had.
  • 10.5% were considered average. These are mediocre players that had starts or significant contributions over 2-3 years.
  • 12.3% were considered good. These could be mediocre or average players that were multi-year starters, Pat Elflein or Christian Ponder for example, or perhaps some genuinely good players that didn’t last all that long for the team that drafted them- Sidney Rice for example. This is where the AV metric can over-rate a player based on the number of starts, rather than their performance while on the field.
  • 6.9% were considered Great. This category is the first that includes undeniably good draft picks. In order to be considered great, they would’ve had to play for the team that drafted them into a second contract, and also performed well over those years.
  • 1% were considered legendary. These are future Hall of Famers, multi-year All-Pros among the best in the league for most of their relatively long careers.
And so only about 8% of draft picks are players that really make much of a difference beyond replacement value, and only about 30% see much playing time or make a significant contribution to the team.
Go to the link for the full read.
 
FMIA: Snyder’s Long Goodbye, and the First-Round Case for Bijan Robinson

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Four big names in the first round I heard a lot about in recent days. I cast a wide net. I listen. I pry with people I’ve known for a while.

Bryce Young is (no pun intended) head-and-shoulders in the lead to be the first pick in the draft.

Tyree Wilson, the Texas Tech pass-rusher, might be in competition with Alabama’s Will Anderson for the top defensive prospect on Houston’s draft board, and that could mean something if the Texans aren’t quite as smitten with C.J. Stroud as Mock Draft World thinks.

Jalen Carter has two visits to top-10 teams left before Wednesday’s deadline for players to make pre-draft visits to teams. That’s what agent Drew Rosenhaus told me Saturday. I’ll tell you the team that is the most perfect fit for Carter in the NFL: the Pittsburgh Steelers, who’d have to trade up from 17 to get him.

Jaxon Smith-Njigba had a left hamstring injury last year. He had a gigantic 2021 season at Ohio State, then played only 60 snaps in 2022, and I’m hearing some reticence about taking a guy 12th or 18th in the first round when, in a 4.5-month season, he managed to play the equivalent of one football game with a hamstring injury.

This might sound crazy, but I’m not sure how many teams will be aggressive in trying to move up for C.J. Stroud if Bryce Young goes first to Carolina.

All the anti-Bijan-Robinson-in-the-first-round folks, hear this: There’s this reticence to pick a running back in the first round because he might not be around for a second contract. Fact is, most first-round picks don’t sign second contracts. Per overthecap.com, 31 percent of first-round picks from 2011-’14 signed second contracts with teams, and well under half the players from 2011 to 2019 (the last year we’d be able to figure if first-rounders got second contracts) re-signed.

One other Bijanism. His college coach, Steve Sarkisian, told me Robinson could be a slot receiver, regularly, in the NFL. I’ve got the clip to convince you. “I probably made a couple of receivers on our team mad last season,” Sarkisian said, “but he had the best hands on our team.”
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I pass these mini-nuggets along as a fan service. They are among the things I’m hearing about the top of the 2023 draft.

  • This doesn’t mean anything on the surface, because the way “reporting” works this time of year, things that make sense get repeated and repeated and repeated and it all becomes one giant Insider Echo Chamber. But I didn’t hear anyone, in calls Friday through Sunday, who thinks the first pick won’t be Bryce Young. He may not be. I’m just telling you what’s out there.
  • I will not be surprised if, in the Edge category, Tyree Wilson is picked ahead of Will Anderson. I particularly will not be surprised if Houston—whether at two or through a trade-down if the Texans don’t take a quarterback—takes Wilson over Anderson. “DeMeco Ryans could look at Wilson after his year in San Francisco and say, ‘I got my Nick Bosa,’” said someone in the league who knows Ryans.
  • One coach with a pick in the top 10: “Wilson will be a better pro than Anderson.”
  • I’m like you. I hear the Houston’s souring on Stroud stuff, and I just can’t believe the Texans wouldn’t take a quarterback high in this draft. How would Cal McNair answer to his disaffected season-ticketholders if, after passing on a quarterback with the third and 15th picks in the first round last year, he passes on a quarterback at number two this year? It’s the job of coaches to get the best out of players, and there’s certainly enough potential in C.J. Stroud—should he be there for Houston at two—for the Texans’ coaches to make a good NFL QB out of him.
  • An increasing number of people around the league think Jalen Carter has done enough in his visits to not sink like a stone on draft night. (More on Carter in my next section.) It’s become almost a cliché, how many team officials think the Seahawks will take Carter with the fifth overall pick.
  • Best rumor of the week: Steelers trading up from 17 to nine if Carter’s there. There could not be a more perfect coach for Carter than Mike Tomlin.
  • Carolina owner David Tepper has not been overbearing in the QB-search process. I can hear it now: You’re giving us a sanitized version of this to get on Tepper’s good side. Uh, I’ve never met the man. I could care less about buttering up David Tepper. I’m just telling you the real stuff.
  • Peter Skoronski’s an interesting case. The Northwestern tackle has the dreaded short-arm plague, and two teams in the top 10 see him now as a guard. So what? Guard Chris Lindstromgot drafted 14th by the Falcons in 2019, and he’s now a cornerstone player in Atlanta. Ditto Zack Martin (16th) in Dallas, and with a slightly smaller exclamation point, Quenton Nelson (sixth) in Indy. All got second contracts. If Skoronski’s a great guard, getting picked ninth or 12th or 15th is absolutely fine.
  • This is not an overriding negative on Jaxon Smith-Njigba, an excellent receiver prospect. But the Ohio State football season was five months long last year, including practice, and Smith-Njigba got a left hamstring injury early, and he played 60 snaps total in three games, and never got on the field in the last 10 weeks. He runs a 4.48 40-. I’m not the only one wondering: How is Jaxon Smith-Njigba the top-rated receiver on so many boards with 10 days to go?
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Faust said:
2023 NFL Draft: Which prospect might not be a first-round pick, but SHOULD be?
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Marc Ross
PICKS: Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama

Gibbs gets lost in the Bijan Robinson hype, and while the Texas back is great, Gibbs is better, in my opinion. He is so explosive with the ball in his hands and will contribute on all three downs as a pass-catching threat. The Alvin Kamara comparison is spot on, as Gibbs will step right in as a versatile asset and Day 1 starter for the team who drafts him
 
Great little profile on who and how and why Addison Hayes of DLF is out and in on at WR/RB this year. You can scan along the timeline and figure out the players, both pro and con.

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Faust said:
2023 NFL Draft: Ranking the best deep threats in the draft class
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Little bit of Rashee Rice and Jalin Hyatt. 1-3 in catches and yards. Marvin Mims there in the top three there, too.

LIttle bit of JSN from 2021 coming in at fourth in catches and in the top ten for yards, respectively. Surprised by that.
 
rockaction said:
LIttle bit of JSN from 2021 coming in at fourth in catches and in the top ten for yards, respectively. Surprised by that.
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He is also one of the top YAC guys in this class as well.

Seems like the perception of him being 'slow' doesn't translate into him being the one dimensional WR many seem to pigeonhole him as.

Christ knows what Lance Zierlein is on saying he isn't a good route runner.
 
Dane Brugler@dpbrugler
2023 NFL Draft Guide is now available.
Dane Brugler@dpbrugler
Looks great! A few of my favorite non-1st round prospects this year:
WR Tyler Scott
SAF/NB Quan Martin
DE YaYa Diaby
LB/S Marte Mapu
OG Chandler Zavala
Daniel Jeremiah
@MoveTheSticks
2 WR stocks I'd buy right now
- Jonathan Mingo (Ole Miss)
- Cedric Tillman (TEN)
There aren't a lot of big WR's in this class. Draft is littered with 170-180LB guys.
These 2 stand out as bigger/physical players.
 
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Jared Tokarz @JaredNFLDraft
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As I watched Penn State WR Parker Washington’s game film, I keep drawing similarities to Julian Edelman. 5’10 204lbs 4.49 40 Similar thicker size, good contact balance, strong hands, speed, & YAC ability from the slot. Parker had the 2nd highest contested catch win rate in ‘22
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Washington is one of my favorite mid-round options at WR and hasn’t garnered the buzz he deserves due to a late ankle injury.

Just an all-around exciting prospect who’s not on everyone’s radar
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