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[dynasty] Brandon Saine (1 Viewer)

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with Alex Green tearing up this knee, this guy takes his roster spot. Guy has some intriguing measurables. Considering the Packers have a high powered offense, I snatched him up in a few leagues because of the potential. Grant and Starks aren't necessarily made of iron...anything to see here? sounds like he caught the ball well out of the backfield at OSU and showed promise, but does he run blind?

 
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since nobody had anything to say, I did some digging on my own...seems like his weaknesses could be correctable for the right coach?? Seems like a guy that should be added in larger dynasty leagues (especially PPR). I added him in two where I had roster room dropping guys like Lex Hilliard and Stephen Burton...

New deal: Running back Brandon Saine, who was promoted from the practice squad Monday, signed a three-year, $1.395 million contract. It's a minimum deal without bonus money.

Neither running backs coach Jerry Fontenot nor special teams coach Shawn Slocum would say if they preferred Saine to Dimitri Nance. A former Falcon, Nance had a solid camp before being cut Sept. 3.

“When they asked me if I was comfortable with Brandon, absolutely,” said Fontenot. “That was my answer. Mentally, he’s very sharp. We watch a lot of tape together and he hasn’t answered one question wrong yet.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profilexnews.php?pyid=71647&draftyear=2011&genpos=RB
While Saine was not used heavily at Ohio State, he does bring some versatility to the position. His final year with the Buckeyes, he had 532 total yards with seven touchdowns. As a junior, Saine rushed for 739 yards and four touchdowns.

“I like to think of myself as versatile. I’ve always been pretty good at catching the ball out of the backfield,” he said. “I think that I’m definitely a one-cut runner. I don’t have an arsenal of moves because I don’t really have the body type for it.”

When Green went down, Saine thought the Packers might promote him. The key, he says, was progressing in the classroom. He got up to speed on pass-protection assignments. With James Starks, Ryan Grant and John Kuhn around, Green Bay doesn't need Saine to shoulder carries, but Green was used on special teams and had a key third-down reception at Atlanta.

Now, Saine's life off the field is changing, too.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-saine-has-an-eventful-few-weeks-132975648.html
HT: 5-11.5

WT: 220

40 Time: 4.41

Biography: "Finished his senior season with 70/337/2 on the ground as a rotational back. Also added 23/195/5 catching the ball. All-Conference selection as a junior when he was Ohio State's top running back, posting 145/739/4 on the ground and 17/224/2 as a receiver."

Positives: "Nice-sized ball carrier who has never lived up to expectations on the college level. Displays strength carrying the ball, breaks tackles, and picks up yardage off initial contact. Falls forward when tackled. Displays a quick burst, darts around the inside, and will pick his spots. Legitimate pass catching threat out of the backfield who displays consistent hands. Gets down the field and comes away with tough catches in crowds."

Negatives: Lacks patience and must do a better job waiting for blocks develop. Lacks overall ball carrying instincts. Loses momentum when he must immediately change direction.

Analysis: "Physically Saine possesses all the tools to be a feature back at the next level and is a multipurpose ball carrier who can produce as a receiver out of the backfield. He's never put together a complete game on the college level, but he is a developmental prospect who can produce in the NFL if the light goes on."
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/draft-2011/players/67748.html#ixzz1cqBnsFGG

Brandon Saine

Most teams wouldn’t be overly thrilled with their team drafting a guy who had only 337 yards in his senior season, has never had 1,000 yard year and was the third leading rusher on his team. However, Saine is a deep sleeper who your team could pick up on the third day of the draft for next to nothing. Saine never had the opportunity to be the full-time ball carrier at OSU, having split carries with Dan Herron. He has great speed (4.43 40 yard dash) and size (6’1″ 219 lbs.) Saine can make plays in the open field and would be a unique wrinkle to a teams offense. He’s never going to be a every down running back but he could be a weapon in the right offense. He also displays good pass catching ability and can split out as a slot wide receiver.
http://nfldraftjunkies.wordpress.com/2011/04/22/bargain-backs/
 
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He didn't have very impressive scores in the quickness drills at the combine. I don't remember him sticking out as a good player on the field either. I know he banged up his knee early last year to allow Herron more playing time, but I don't think it was serious.

 
He didn't have very impressive scores in the quickness drills at the combine. I don't remember him sticking out as a good player on the field either. I know he banged up his knee early last year to allow Herron more playing time, but I don't think it was serious.
4.25 20 yd shuttle and 6.98 3 cone seems average to me? especially for a guy his sizewith high powered offense and his ability in the passing game wouldn't he be able to contribute if something happened to either Starks or Grant??
 
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He didn't have very impressive scores in the quickness drills at the combine. I don't remember him sticking out as a good player on the field either. I know he banged up his knee early last year to allow Herron more playing time, but I don't think it was serious.
4.25 20 yd shuttle and 6.98 3 cone seems average to me? especially for a guy his sizewith high powered offense and his ability in the passing game wouldn't he be able to contribute if something happened to either Starks or Grant??
It's not the end-all, but the combine didn't have his scores in the top 15 of either event. That's all that I have about him though. I don't know a thing about him. It would be nice to hear from people that saw him play at Ohio State.
 
He didn't have very impressive scores in the quickness drills at the combine. I don't remember him sticking out as a good player on the field either. I know he banged up his knee early last year to allow Herron more playing time, but I don't think it was serious.
4.25 20 yd shuttle and 6.98 3 cone seems average to me? especially for a guy his sizewith high powered offense and his ability in the passing game wouldn't he be able to contribute if something happened to either Starks or Grant??
It's not the end-all, but the combine didn't have his scores in the top 15 of either event. That's all that I have about him though. I don't know a thing about him. It would be nice to hear from people that saw him play at Ohio State.
Great pass-catching back, but Dan Herron always seemed like the better option at HB for us when they were on the team together. He definitely had the speed and size, but never seemed to put it all together.Compare:Boom Herron - 1196 Yards, 16 TDsBrandon Saine - 351 Yards, 2 TDHowever, he did also have 5 TDs receiving on only 23 receptions, so he was obviously a good Red Zone option in the passing game.
 
As a huge Buckeye fan, I've seen a lot of Saine. His problems at RB were primarily due to a lack of vision and pretty stiff hips (doesn't change direction very well). He just didn't see the holes very well and is definitely a straight ahead type runner without much ability to make guys miss.

His strengths are twofold. One, he is extremely fast. I believe at one point he set the Ohio HS 100 meter record with a 10.2 or so (at about 220 pounds). Straight ahead, he's a blazer. Also, he is very, very good at catching the ball. Great hands and also has WR-like ability to adjust for balls and go up and get them. His best play at OSU was the wheel route where he'd be lined up at FB and take off deep down the sideline. He made a lot of big plays on that.

My personal take is that he could stick in the league because he's good on special teams and he could work his way into a 3rd down back role due to his intelligence and receiving skills. I'd be pretty shocked if he ever became the lead back though as he's too stiff and lacks the vision to excel in that role.

 
i watch osu quite a bit and always thought he was better than herron, at least against college comp. his speed led to many big plays but i think bengalbuck is on to something about his lack of vision. i dunno, i never liked herron too much.

 
What is it with Packers RBs? Every season I see people on this board jumping on the 3rd and 4th best GB running backs on the roster in dynasty. Even the RB1 on Green Bay doesn't put up good numbers, what makes you think the RB4 will anytime soon? Heck, anytime long?

 
What is it with Packers RBs? Every season I see people on this board jumping on the 3rd and 4th best GB running backs on the roster in dynasty. Even the RB1 on Green Bay doesn't put up good numbers, what makes you think the RB4 will anytime soon? Heck, anytime long?
he's actually 3rd string now with Alex Green on IR and could end up as high as the #2 next year depending on how he performs and if Green's knee doesn't respond in time. Most of the leagues I'm in have 3 running backs from a lot of teams that are already owned. Why not the best 4th best offense in football? Especially PPR leagues where this guy has a track record of obvious skills in the passing game and they like to play in that spread. Could he be a better 3rd down back than Starks?
 
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could get a shot today if Starks is inactive. Should be interesting...
I would think Kuhn will pick up most of the extra snaps if Starks is out. I also have to wonder how Saine is in pass protection because being decent in that area is the only way he sees the field in my opinion.
considering he spent most of his college career playing in a pro style offense as the passing down back and mentioned how important knowing his pass blocking assignments (in one of the articles above), I think he'll be fine.May all be a moot point, but Kuhn is very limited in the type of plays he can make. He's a completely different type of back and IMO he would take grant's snaps, but I think Saine has more explosion and most similar to Starks. Could all be moot, but we'll find out shortly
 
I don't see this guy as a long term answer. Starks will probably take the #1 spot next year. Not sure of Grant's contract, but hey may not be back. I think we see GB draft another RB if they're in a position to do it. If that back is a #1 or #2 rounder, that's who you should look at in Dynasty. Failing that, Starks.

Don't get me wrong, I like Saine, and he looked good in pre-season, but I'm not sure he's anything more than Brandon Jackson part 2.

 
I don't see this guy as a long term answer. Starks will probably take the #1 spot next year. Not sure of Grant's contract, but hey may not be back. I think we see GB draft another RB if they're in a position to do it. If that back is a #1 or #2 rounder, that's who you should look at in Dynasty. Failing that, Starks.Don't get me wrong, I like Saine, and he looked good in pre-season, but I'm not sure he's anything more than Brandon Jackson part 2.
with the set up of the Packers offense, wouldn't a guy that is legit in the passing game be very valuable to them? Why would they need to spend a high pick on a RB?
 
caught 4 balls today and 6 rushes. His role definitely seems to be expanding. Hope you guys scooped him up as I think he could be an asset and it is clear they like they way he works in the passing game as he's being involved.

 
One might need to question your Saine-ity if you are invested at all in the GB running game. I guess if you enjoy having a losing fantasy squad, hop all over it.

 
He doesn't have any special qualities about him, but he has a great head for the game and is a very high character guy. There's a place for him in this league, but he's just your run of the mill backup that can occasionally provide some value if injuries call upon him - especially ppr leagues as he has great hands (high school wr) and is adept in pass blocking.

 
One might need to question your Saine-ity if you are invested at all in the GB running game. I guess if you enjoy having a losing fantasy squad, hop all over it.
that's pretty funny, but I'm not investing in the GB running game as much as I am in the passing game since that's where Saine will do his damage anyways...would barely call a waiver wire claim at this time of a year an "investment" as well...
 
Am I missing something here ?

I mean, Starks & Grant barely had fantasy value and now people are hyping this scrub ?

 
Am I missing something here ?I mean, Starks & Grant barely had fantasy value and now people are hyping this scrub ?
Seems to me that if those guys are underperforming there is room for someone to perform. Saine has very good passing game skills so he seems like a good match for what the Packers are trying to do on offense. He doesn't need to do much to get to RB3-4 value, but right now I think you could do a lot worse for a roster spot in deeper leagues. If you think that is hype, so be it I guess...Starks foot injuries seem to be staying with him. Didn't he miss half of last year with a foot injury? Most people agree Grant doesn't have it anymore. Certainly some room for someone to carve out some carries
 
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Am I missing something here ?I mean, Starks & Grant barely had fantasy value and now people are hyping this scrub ?
Seems to me that if those guys are underperforming there is room for someone to perform. Saine has very good passing game skills so he seems like a good match for what the Packers are trying to do on offense. He doesn't need to do much to get to RB3-4 value, but right now I think you could do a lot worse for a roster spot in deeper leagues. If you think that is hype, so be it I guess...Starks foot injuries seem to be staying with him. Didn't he miss half of last year with a foot injury? Most people agree Grant doesn't have it anymore. Certainly some room for someone to carve out some carries
He hurt his knee a few weeks ago and an ankle yesterday.
 

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