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[DYNASTY] Eddie Royal (1 Viewer)

I waited and waited and waited in a redraft with EBF, but I eventually couldn't wait any longer and drafted Royal in the 24th round a little after EBF took Antonio Bryant. We both need a good WR3 badly at this point, and I think I found mine.
:football: Really didn't think he'd be this good this fast. Didn't pick him in any redrafts, but have him on the majority of my dynasty squads.
I know one squad you don't have him on. :cry:
:yucky: Nice pickup there. My skill position players in Z30 are all horrible.
They have high BMIs though, so you've got that going for you.... :D
 
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I am doing my best not to get too excited about his prospects, but there's probably only 15 WRs that I would trade him for right now. There are some guys in that 12-20 area of the rankings that are either old or in bad situations. Holt and Housh come to mind. Their years remaining of quality play are limited, and they appear to be on train wrecks this year. Would you give up a young WR with this much talent for that? Redraft, without a doubt. Dynasty? I'd think long and hard about it, but would probably pass as of today.

Royal is in a fantastic situation with a young emerging stud QB, an excellent WR on the other side, and has a quality head coach in a stable situation to boot. Perfect.
I agree. I think I would rank him in the 20-25 range, but with a gun to my head there are probably only about 15 WRs I'd trade him for. Usually I would say someone is overreacting if they bump a player up this much after one game. I think Royal is the real deal though.
Hmm, trade Matt Forte after he has a good game, but vault Royal into the top 15 WR's after one good game? I do like Royal, but i would trade him to you for Matt Forte given the opportunity.
It's extremely common for rookie RBs to have good games. What Forte did does not qualify as special. How often does a rookie WR torch a Pro Bowl type corner for 9 catches, 150 yards, and a score? Not very often.

That's not to mention my qualitative opinion that Royal looked far more impressive than Forte did independent of the stat line.

I would gladly give Forte for Royal in PPR dynasty. That's just robbery.
Couldn't agree more with EBF here. Apples and oranges.
 
Few points here:

- He's nothing like Anquan Boldin. They are completely different players. The only similarities are dominant week 1 performances as rookies.

- I agree with everything EBF is saying in here. I drafted the kid in my dynasty league based on some great things I read here and in news articles. I knew little about him other than that he was allegedly very NFL ready. I watched the entirety of that game last night and was in awe. The kid can do absolutely everything, and he does it all amazingly well. He looks so comfortable out there. He looks absolutely uncoverable -- like he's operating several speeds quicker than everyone else on the field. And when he gets the ball in his hands, he's like a ball of energy -- just explosive and all over the place. His route running is absurd -- that play where he ran the double hitch and DHall literally went down on his behind was just amazing. The most impressive thing about this kid, though, is he has "it." He is a football player to the bone and he gets the job done. He is the kind of guy that the coaches want to put the ball in his hands as much as they can -- and we saw a boatload of that last night.

I can't see this kid not succeeding. I can't see anyone covering him. If he wants to get open, he wil. Case closed.

To the point about Brandon Marshall, folks are talking about him like he's a god. Who's to say Eddie Royal can't be a BETTER receiver than Marshall? Marshall is certainly the WR1 for now, and the guy is immensely talented, but what about the possibility that Royal could be BETTER? Maybe he will be Cutler's favorite target, and will be the highest producing fantasy WR on the team? Would I bet on that? Of course note, but it's certainly a possibility based on everything I saw last night.

This kid is just ridiculous. "The real deal" is putting it mildly.

 
First of all, one game, in the overall scheme of things, means virtually nothing. I don't care if Royal caught 20 balls. Same for CJ/Forte's good games. Longterm, yeah, I gotta give the clear edge to the 2 rookie RBs in FF (stressing FF). If/when Royal becomes Denver's #1 option, I'll reconsider. Just can't see it, tho.

 
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves guys. It was one game...albeit an impressive one....but it was against a defense that also allowed a 72 yard bomb to a tight end and allowed Darrell Jackson :goodposting: to score a 48 yarder. Let's wait until Brandon Marshall gets back and they get a few games under their belt together before we start proclaiming him the second coming.

 
First of all, one game, in the overall scheme of things, means virtually nothing. I don't care if Royal caught 20 balls. Same for CJ/Forte's good games. Longterm, yeah, I gotta give the clear edge to the 2 rookie RBs in FF (stressing FF). If/when Royal becomes Denver's #1 option, I'll reconsider. Just can't see it, tho.
We're not just basing our opinions on the stats. It's also many people's qualitative assessments of him as a player. Kid is tremendous.
 
First of all, one game, in the overall scheme of things, means virtually nothing. I don't care if Royal caught 20 balls. Same for CJ/Forte's good games. Longterm, yeah, I gotta give the clear edge to the 2 rookie RBs in FF (stressing FF). If/when Royal becomes Denver's #1 option, I'll reconsider. Just can't see it, tho.
We're not just basing our opinions on the stats. It's also many people's qualitative assessments of him as a player. Kid is tremendous.
Otis nailed it. The stats don't mean that much. DeSean Jackson had a great stat line this weekend and I'm not as excited about him as I am about Royal. For me it's the combination of his training camp hype, his rookie debut, and the fact that I was already pretty high on his skills. It's also how he looked. Very polished and explosive.I think you're approaching it the wrong way if you're just looking at him as another generic WR2. What should be emphasized is the fact that a physical freak of nature won a starting WR job as a rookie and dominated in his first pro game. This reminds me of Boldin in that regard. Boldin built a big training camp buzz and dominated from the moment he stepped on the field. He's still massively productive despite playing alongside arguably one of the top 4-5 WRs in football. Now obviously we can't know that Royal is that good yet, but after weighing all the variables I'm highly optimistic. People would have to pry him out of my cold dead hands to get him off my dynasty rosters.
 
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before we start proclaiming him the second coming.
Putting him in the WR20-25 range is akin to proclaiming him the second coming? We've heard positive things about Royal all summer and then he comes out and makes a Pro Bowl corner look absolutely stupid while catching everything in sight. It warrants discussion and certainly a nice bump in dynasty ranking.
 
First of all, one game, in the overall scheme of things, means virtually nothing. I don't care if Royal caught 20 balls. Same for CJ/Forte's good games. Longterm, yeah, I gotta give the clear edge to the 2 rookie RBs in FF (stressing FF). If/when Royal becomes Denver's #1 option, I'll reconsider. Just can't see it, tho.
We're not just basing our opinions on the stats. It's also many people's qualitative assessments of him as a player. Kid is tremendous.
I was just as impressed with Forte the other night as i was Royal last night. I'll take the RB all day though. This is not a knock against Royal, as i like him alot, just not sure if he will put up numbers consistently with Marshall back. The one person who is the true winner here is Cutler, he could very well be considered the #1 dynasty QB by years end.
 
First of all, one game, in the overall scheme of things, means virtually nothing. I don't care if Royal caught 20 balls. Same for CJ/Forte's good games. Longterm, yeah, I gotta give the clear edge to the 2 rookie RBs in FF (stressing FF). If/when Royal becomes Denver's #1 option, I'll reconsider. Just can't see it, tho.
We're not just basing our opinions on the stats. It's also many people's qualitative assessments of him as a player. Kid is tremendous.
Totally agree. That's why I remind people we play FF. I believe Eddie Royal is a fantastic NFL WR. However, there was some earlier talk of Royal being more valuable than CJ & Forte. I'm simply saying I prefer the 2 rookie RBs by a pretty clear margin. Again, if/when Royal becomes Denver's #1 option, then I'll have to raise Royal in my rankings (talking dynasty). Just don't see it, tho. That's really all I'm saying.
 
Threads like this always turn into owners of Player X overstating a player and everyone else downplaying Player X. The reality is that he's somewhere in the middle.

 
I will say this...if Shanny agrees to open up the offense a little bit, Marshall could have one of the best seasons ever by a WR, with Royal producing good numbers, as well. I'm a little leery of Shanny ever letting go of his running game, tho. That's one reason I'm not super-duper high on Royal in FF.

BTW, as much as I like Royal as an NFL player, it's not always going to be that easy, LOL. Very few small-framed WRs make it big nowdays. Steve Smith is the poster child, but he can flat out beat the jam. Royal will get tested, believe me. DCs aren't dumb. It'll be fun to watch how Royal, who's more polished than most rookie WRs, but is small, adjusts to the pro game over the course of a full season.

 
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Threads like this always turn into owners of Player X overstating a player and everyone else downplaying Player X. The reality is that he's somewhere in the middle.
This is right more times than not, but i dont really think that is happening here. I havnt seen many people downplaying Royal. Although the fact that EBF said this " People would have to pry him out of my cold dead hands to get him off my dynasty rosters", tells me that he might be on the overly high side. :thumbdown:
 
Threads like this always turn into owners of Player X overstating a player and everyone else downplaying Player X. The reality is that he's somewhere in the middle.
This is right more times than not, but i dont really think that is happening here. I havnt seen many people downplaying Royal. Although the fact that EBF said this " People would have to pry him out of my cold dead hands to get him off my dynasty rosters", tells me that he might be on the overly high side. :lmao:
I'll wear that allegation as a badge of honor. I've already said I'm 100% sold on him. Sleep on this kid at your own peril. Two years from now he'll be in everyone's top 20 dynasty WRs.
 
He reminded me so much of Boldin after his first game. This guy is a stud and will do wonders for Cutler. Someone drafted Royal in the 15th round of my draft - that's a shark move for sure.I'm curious how he'll do with Marshall but I have a feeling they will work well with each other like Fitz and Boldin.
He doesn't remind me of Anquan Boldin, I think he reminds me more of a Steve Smith type WR.
:lmao:
...stating with Royal that Coles is a good comparison - yet giving two different reasons for each - Moats for style / physical traits, Coles for Fantasy Football comparisons).
I may get hung here, but does anyone else see a Eddie Royal / Steve Smith comparison?Like Smith, Royal will have to make his impact as a return specialist first. Like Smith, Royal is a short, but strong and quick player. He might not be quite as strong, but he can get there. Obviously Smith is the extreme high-end projection, but it's possible.
There are some physical similarities, but the reason Smith is dominant as a smaller player is because of his extreme aggressiveness/competitiveness/drive. I doubt Royal has that same makeup, at least not to the same degree. I don't really see the comparison.
He looked to have drive in week 1. I was wrong about where he'd make his impact first.
 
Threads like this always turn into owners of Player X overstating a player and everyone else downplaying Player X. The reality is that he's somewhere in the middle.
This is right more times than not, but i dont really think that is happening here. I havnt seen many people downplaying Royal. Although the fact that EBF said this " People would have to pry him out of my cold dead hands to get him off my dynasty rosters", tells me that he might be on the overly high side. :lmao:
I'll wear that allegation as a badge of honor. I've already said I'm 100% sold on him. Sleep on this kid at your own peril. Two years from now he'll be in everyone's top 20 dynasty WRs.
Im not disagreeing with you, if you look back on some of your Royal hype threads from the offseason, you will see i was with you. Just want to see him put up some consistent numbers with Marshall back before i put him in my top 20 WR's. Although with Denvers running game, or lack of it, and Cutler at QB, i doubt it will be long before i have him there as well. Eithr way though, CJ and Forte are already in my top 20 dynasty RB's, and RB's are more valuable in non-ppr's, which is the only dynasty leagues i play in.
 
First of all, one game, in the overall scheme of things, means virtually nothing. I don't care if Royal caught 20 balls. Same for CJ/Forte's good games. Longterm, yeah, I gotta give the clear edge to the 2 rookie RBs in FF (stressing FF). If/when Royal becomes Denver's #1 option, I'll reconsider. Just can't see it, tho.
We're not just basing our opinions on the stats. It's also many people's qualitative assessments of him as a player. Kid is tremendous.
I was just as impressed with Forte the other night as i was Royal last night. I'll take the RB all day though. This is not a knock against Royal, as i like him alot, just not sure if he will put up numbers consistently with Marshall back. The one person who is the true winner here is Cutler, he could very well be considered the #1 dynasty QB by years end.
I guess as far as I saw Forte did not put on a clinic the way Royal did. Kid put on a dominating performance in his first game as a pro football player. Forte looked pretty good and had a nice game, but it was nothing like what Royal did.
 
Threads like this always turn into owners of Player X overstating a player and everyone else downplaying Player X. The reality is that he's somewhere in the middle.
Not true. I wrote an article for another fantasy site after Anquan Boldin's first game about whether or not it was "Too good to be true?", and concluded that he was the real deal and was destined for stardom. In the case of that debate -- which was very similar to the one we are having now -- the folks who were ultra high on Boldin were spot on. Kid ended up the ROY and smashing records and is still one of the top WRs in football.The truth isn't necessarily in the middle.
 
When Marshall comes back, does he get the same touches? I think they will go down
As Marshall's original pimp around here, I have been thinking about this more than anything else. I'm afraid this is great for Cutler and the Broncos, but a little negative for Marshall. What I saw last night was a young Steve Smith. Royal has to be double teamed. That's good for Marshall, but you also have to believe that teams will be slow to cover Royal and he will, like Welker, make a mess of man coverage over and over again. Cutler has an interesting history of going to one receiver, and almost one receiver only. He did this at Vanderbilt with Bennett. He did it last year with Marshall. He looks like an elite QB to me, and I expect him to have no problem exploiting a couple options. I am interested to see if Marshall ends up getting ridiculous targets again or if Royal takes a bunch away from Marshall. I expect Jay will be happy to spread it around. Marshall loses a little luster and Royal owners have a nice find. Probably not quite up to EBFs hype with Marshall around, but really nice. I didn't see Royal coming during draft season and figured him for a kick returner. I am always happy to admit I get things wrong, and more importantly act on the better information provided by camp. I waited and waited and waited in a redraft with EBF, but I eventually couldn't wait any longer and drafted Royal in the 24th round a little after EBF took Antonio Bryant. We both need a good WR3 badly at this point, and I think I found mine.
This was the guy I've been comparing him to since the combine and everyone was saying he wasnt that good. I had to keep my mouth shut about him most of the offseason and was able to get him in the 3rd round of every rookie draft. Right now I dont think I would trade him for any wr not in the top 15 either. So far Ive been offered Reggie Brown/2nd for him.

He was just traded in one league I was not able to get him in for Gore for MJD/Royal.

His value just from prospect to 1st round talent. A couple more games like that and you have to put him in the Future Stud catagory.

 
I was sold on him after his combine & mini-camp performances. A fast dude that catches everything and who's biggest issue coming to the NFL is getting off the jam? That's a player. That says he runs routes very well, which he does. He will be taught how to get off the jam....heck does he even need taught? Hall was totally schooled and afraid to get near Fast Eddie. He's a solid #2 for Denver. I see better #'s for Marshall and Royal than Ocho Zero/Whosimyname barring Marshall screwup/injury.
At the combine he bench pressed 225 24 times. Small, fast and strong? Sounds like another Steve Smith
 
Here's what you'll want to watch out for with Royal: He's a fumbler. He's very football smart, but Shanahan does not tolerate fumblers at all (how many times has he benched an RB because of a fumbling problem?) If you watch the nfl.com highlight linked above, watch how many times he loses the ball. He only had one official fumble in that game (during a kick return, and he reacted very quickly and fell on it) but he lost the ball two other times and it seemed like a "near" fumble. A few key fumbles from Royal and shanny will bench his ### and start Nate faster than you can say "Quintin Griffin."
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Here's what you'll want to watch out for with Royal: He's a fumbler. He's very football smart, but Shanahan does not tolerate fumblers at all (how many times has he benched an RB because of a fumbling problem?) If you watch the nfl.com highlight linked above, watch how many times he loses the ball. He only had one official fumble in that game (during a kick return, and he reacted very quickly and fell on it) but he lost the ball two other times and it seemed like a "near" fumble. A few key fumbles from Royal and shanny will bench his ### and start Nate faster than you can say "Quintin Griffin."
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