Dynasty Rankings (9 Viewers)

[VA Sundevil]

I'd love to hear your expanded thoughts on Kevin Smith as a dynasty product, F&L. With all the fresh RB talent coming in last year, seems like he's a guy who gets lost in the mix.

Is Detroit going to stick with him? Lions certainly weren't ever trying to run out the clock on opponents last year, but he still produced when given the touches and finished up in the 15-20 range in my league (Non-PPR). Should I anticipate that for a stabilized range or does he have more upshot down the road?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

I don't have any strong thoughts on Kevin Smith. I'd assume Detroit is going to stick with him as the lead back for as long as he's productive, but I'm not crazy about owning any non-Calvin Johnson Lions. I like what he did to close out the 2008 season, but I don't have any kind of raging confidence that he's going to pick right up where he left off again next year.

Quite a few of the guys who frequent this thread have a high regard for Smith. I'd check the last 3-4 pages for some more Kevin Smith talk.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Speaking of Stewart, he seems awful high(15th at RB) for a guy who is sharing time with the guy who was just the #1 RB this season and is only a few years older. What are you projecting for him in the near future? Is he ranked that high solely for long term value or do you think he'll be a startable option this season?

You have to rank guys with difference-making talent highly if you believe they're special. I believe Stewart is a special talent. You can always grab a cheap veteran and patch over at RB2 while he waits for an injury or another avenue of opportunity.I'd say the ranking is much more for long-term value than for 2009 value.

love Stewart as a decent RB2 in 09 with great long term value

Stewart owner here as well. I also believe this guy has the ability to be a top 5 fantasy RB for years once given the chance. But when exactly do you guys think this will occur? When is Williams contract up? Can they franchise him. When exactly will Stewart get his chance as the #1 guy assuming DWill doesnt get hurt or totally stink? (the latter which isnt likely).

Stewart will be only 23 years old when the 2010 season is over and 24 when the 2011 starts. Still plenty young enough when he likely becomes the prime back. Meanwhile he will still put up #2 fantasy rb numbers imo.

 

[george]

Curious as to what your current thoughts on Marion Barber are? I see you have him at #11. Is that you believe Jones/Choice will cut into his carries/production or a belief that the injury will limit his effectiveness this year. I think regardless of whether or not his carries are cut back somewhat, he will continue to be the goto guy at the goalline and expected to see him ranked higher.

 

[munchkin]

Curious as to what your current thoughts on Marion Barber are? I see you have him at #11. Is that you believe Jones/Choice will cut into his carries/production or a belief that the injury will limit his effectiveness this year. I think regardless of whether or not his carries are cut back somewhat, he will continue to be the goto guy at the goalline and expected to see him ranked higher.

Rick Gosselin on Sirius this morning thought that the Cowboys should become a run first team, implying that TO should be let go (he gave it a 40-60 he stays split) but that JJ hates to let go of names irregardless to team chemistry (I may be a little harsh there in my interpretation). He thought the Cowboys should follow in the mold of the Giants and pound the ball first and pass later. He felt that Roy could be the go to guy.Were that to happen they certainly seem to have the depth at RB to be more effective than they were with Orange Julius splitting carries with Barber. Barber could go back to be very effective getting say 60% of the carries. Seems to me he was a pretty efficient weekly play when he was scoring a bunch of TD's.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Curious as to what your current thoughts on Marion Barber are? I see you have him at #11. Is that you believe Jones/Choice will cut into his carries/production or a belief that the injury will limit his effectiveness this year. I think regardless of whether or not his carries are cut back somewhat, he will continue to be the goto guy at the goalline and expected to see him ranked higher.

Yeah, you could certainly argue that he should be as high as No. 6 or 7. I've always been concerned about his running style leading to injuries/wearing him down -- and the precipitous drop in YPC + late-season injury didn't allay that. I've also been a bit concerned about him repeating high touchdown numbers year-in and year-out. But, you're right, my biggest concern now is that Felix Jones and Tashard Choice proved to be very good running backs in 2008. Jones is too explosive to leave on the bench as much as they did in his rookie season, and I think the Cowboys know that. Choice put up impressive numbers against three of the best defenses in the league and can step in and produce Barber-type numbers.I think Barber's style and the Cowboys RB situation leave questions about both his 2009 value and his long-term stability as an elite Dynasty league asset.

 

[EBF]

That's the real problem with MB3. He's a quality back, but he's not exactly a dynamic talent. I think the Cowboys could've approximated his production with any number of journeymen and I think it was a mistake to pay him the big money. Now they're stuck with him even though they have two guys who could probably combine to give them identical production overall.

I don't see how you can take him in the top 10 given all the question marks.

 

[BespokeJort]

I see Barber around the #8 RB...Rather have him than Jacobs (much more of an injury risk and less able to take big carries IMO) and Lynch (the legal issues, plus the same concerns about a guy behind him stealing carries, except he's in the BUF offense instead of Dallas). Otherwise F&L's rankings have him pretty much pegged IMO

got him in one league and I wouldn't sell him right now. even if you're concerned about his carries declining over the next couple years I think better value will be available for him midseason than right now when the latest thing on everyone's mind is the games where he was out or ineffective with the toe and his backups reigned.

also, their production looked good but its worth pointing out that the Cowboys' late-season collapse came with Barber gone and Choice taking the majority of the carries. May be a coincidence, but its also possible that Choice was able to operate the way he was because teams were concentrating on defending that passing attack due to Barber being out.

 

[DevilDog919]

As a cowboy fan, I can say that I hope they go back the Jones/Barber split of two years ago. Except this time it would be Felix leading the way, and Barber goes back to his traditional role as 3rd down/GL RB.

If thats done, I see no reason why Barber doesn't do the same as he did then...RB10-15 sounds about right.

 

[awesomeness]

F&L, I'm thinking of making a strong push to get Rashard Mendenhall this offseason, what are your opinions on the guy?

I noticed you had him in your top 5 for buy low candidates, and am wondering if you could explain your opinions on him a little bit.

 

[Cookiemonster]

F&L, I'm thinking of making a strong push to get Rashard Mendenhall this offseason, what are your opinions on the guy?I noticed you had him in your top 5 for buy low candidates, and am wondering if you could explain your opinions on him a little bit.

He's fallen off the '08 rookie map, thanks to Forte, Johnson, Stewart, Felix, McFadden, Rice & Choice all outperforming him. Those that bought into him didn't expect him to hit Broadway in his 1st year, and maybe not even his 2nd. He has been getting rave reviews from teammates in training camp, and in the post-season. He was called the 2nd best athelete on the field by other Steelers (to Holmes). Parker is signed through 2010, so you can expect him to be the lead-dog going into next year. If Mendy starts eating into his carries by mid-season, it's too late. I agree that if you want him, now is the time to get him.

 

[PranksterJD]

F&L, I'm thinking of making a strong push to get Rashard Mendenhall this offseason, what are your opinions on the guy?I noticed you had him in your top 5 for buy low candidates, and am wondering if you could explain your opinions on him a little bit.

He's fallen off the '08 rookie map, thanks to Forte, Johnson, Stewart, Felix, McFadden, Rice & Choice all outperforming him. Those that bought into him didn't expect him to hit Broadway in his 1st year, and maybe not even his 2nd. He has been getting rave reviews from teammates in training camp, and in the post-season. He was called the 2nd best athelete on the field by other Steelers (to Holmes). Parker is signed through 2010, so you can expect him to be the lead-dog going into next year. If Mendy starts eating into his carries by mid-season, it's too late. I agree that if you want him, now is the time to get him.

It feels like now is a **decent** time to go after him, but in most of my attempts ( not that many ) the owners are already aware of the hype he's getting out of the Steelers locker room. I've been trying to get him for value close to his ADP from last year and nobody's taken the bait. Its like you said... most people that bought into him didn't expect much in year 1, so his value hasn't dropped a whole lot.There's risk involved, but if you wait until week 2 or 3 and he still hasn't done much behind Parker then its possible that some of those owners loosen their wallets a bit.

 

[Cookiemonster]

F&L, I'm thinking of making a strong push to get Rashard Mendenhall this offseason, what are your opinions on the guy?I noticed you had him in your top 5 for buy low candidates, and am wondering if you could explain your opinions on him a little bit.

He's fallen off the '08 rookie map, thanks to Forte, Johnson, Stewart, Felix, McFadden, Rice & Choice all outperforming him. Those that bought into him didn't expect him to hit Broadway in his 1st year, and maybe not even his 2nd. He has been getting rave reviews from teammates in training camp, and in the post-season. He was called the 2nd best athelete on the field by other Steelers (to Holmes). Parker is signed through 2010, so you can expect him to be the lead-dog going into next year. If Mendy starts eating into his carries by mid-season, it's too late. I agree that if you want him, now is the time to get him.

It feels like now is a **decent** time to go after him, but in most of my attempts ( not that many ) the owners are already aware of the hype he's getting out of the Steelers locker room. I've been trying to get him for value close to his ADP from last year and nobody's taken the bait. Its like you said... most people that bought into him didn't expect much in year 1, so his value hasn't dropped a whole lot.There's risk involved, but if you wait until week 2 or 3 and he still hasn't done much behind Parker then its possible that some of those owners loosen their wallets a bit.

I'm a multiple owner, and admittedly had him #1 on my list going into the draft (got lucky to get him twice at #4). I had him #1 on my list KNOWING that I would have to wait at least a year for him. That said, he didn't look super the few times I saw him on the field, then he gets cracked by Ray Ray. It will take me all of about 5 plays this year to determine if I want to keep him. If he's still seeing Ray in his sleep, I'll be able to tell right away and be posting offers everywhere. If he comes out lookin for contact, I'll put a Steeler bell cow over any other rookie from last year, and twice over any rook this year.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

F&L, I'm thinking of making a strong push to get Rashard Mendenhall this offseason, what are your opinions on the guy?

I noticed you had him in your top 5 for buy low candidates, and am wondering if you could explain your opinions on him a little bit.

He's fallen off the '08 rookie map, thanks to Forte, Johnson, Stewart, Felix, McFadden, Rice & Choice all outperforming him. Those that bought into him didn't expect him to hit Broadway in his 1st year, and maybe not even his 2nd. He has been getting rave reviews from teammates in training camp, and in the post-season. He was called the 2nd best athelete on the field by other Steelers (to Holmes). Parker is signed through 2010, so you can expect him to be the lead-dog going into next year. If Mendy starts eating into his carries by mid-season, it's too late. I agree that if you want him, now is the time to get him.

It feels like now is a **decent** time to go after him, but in most of my attempts ( not that many ) the owners are already aware of the hype he's getting out of the Steelers locker room. I've been trying to get him for value close to his ADP from last year and nobody's taken the bait. Its like you said... most people that bought into him didn't expect much in year 1, so his value hasn't dropped a whole lot.There's risk involved, but if you wait until week 2 or 3 and he still hasn't done much behind Parker then its possible that some of those owners loosen their wallets a bit.

I'm a multiple owner, and admittedly had him #1 on my list going into the draft (got lucky to get him twice at #4). I had him #1 on my list KNOWING that I would have to wait at least a year for him. That said, he didn't look super the few times I saw him on the field, then he gets cracked by Ray Ray. It will take me all of about 5 plays this year to determine if I want to keep him. If he's still seeing Ray in his sleep, I'll be able to tell right away and be posting offers everywhere. If he comes out lookin for contact, I'll put a Steeler bell cow over any other rookie from last year, and twice over any rook this year.

Thoughts on Mendenhall and FWP from my Rotoworld Buy/Sell columns earlier this month:Buy Mendenall: "Is Mendenhall going to unseat Willie Parker this offseason? No, but it's clear that Parker cannot physically handle a steady dose of carries. When -- not if -- Fast Willie goes down with another injury in 2009, the door will be left wide open for last year's first-rounder. The Steelers' impressive track record with early-round picks and Mendenhall's pedigree bode well for rebuilding value next fall, leading into a breakout season in 2010."

Sell Parker: "Fast Willie is a borderline fantasy starter heading into the 2009 offseason. If you can find an owner who values him as more than that, it's time to pounce. Parker will undoubtedly be lining up as the starter in Week 1, but what happens after his next injury? Mewelde Moore proved that Parker's numbers can be matched or even succeeded in the Steelers offense, and 2008 first-rounder Rashard Mendenhall is a far more talented back than Moore. The bottom line with FWP is that his value has no stability at this stage of his career. It's time to deal him for a more stable commodity."

 

[thriftyrocker]

F&L,

Why are you so high on Henne? I was high on him last year, but doesn't the other Chad's success really hurt him? How would you compare his opportunity in Miami to the potential rookie QB landing spots in Detroit, SF, NYJ, etc.? If I could choose a mid 2nd rounder (to target a QB like Sanchez or Freeman) or Henne, would I be better off going with Chad?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

F&L,Why are you so high on Henne? I was high on him last year, but doesn't the other Chad's success really hurt him? How would you compare his opportunity in Miami to the potential rookie QB landing spots in Detroit, SF, NYJ, etc.? If I could choose a mid 2nd rounder (to target a QB like Sanchez or Freeman) or Henne, would I be better off going with Chad?

1. Pennington's contract is up after 2009.2. Pennington's 16-game season last year was an aberration. He's a virtual certainty to miss time in 2009. 3. The Dolphins go from the league's easiest schedule in 2008 to one of the toughest schedules this year. Pennington won't repeat his success.I just think the signs point toward Henne seeing time in 2009 and getting a chance to run with the job. Whether he succeeds or not is up to him, but the opportunity is coming.I'd rather have Henne than Freeman. I'd probably flip a coin on Henne vs. Sanchez, just b/c I'm kind of intrigued by Sanchez.

 

[Christo]

Where did you stash your mock dynasty draft on the blog?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Where did you stash your mock dynasty draft on the blog?

http://dynastyrankings.blogspot.com/search...News%2FAnalysisThinking about updating it and using it as a Rotoworld article with comments after each round . . . maybe next week.

 

[Christo]

Where did you stash your mock dynasty draft on the blog?

http://dynastyrankings.blogspot.com/search...News%2FAnalysisThinking about updating it and using it as a Rotoworld article with comments after each round . . . maybe next week.

 

[KellysHeroes]

theres always good info in your site there.

RB

Why so low on MBIII... I would put him ahead of Jacobs. And no way I could take SJax #3 w/ his injury history.

QB

Looks good to me, But I might put Orton in my top 20 or so

WR & TE looks good

 

[Burning Sensation]

theres always good info in your site there.

RB

Why so low on MBIII... I would put him ahead of Jacobs. And no way I could take SJax #3 w/ his injury history.

QB

Looks good to me, But I might put Orton in my top 20 or so

WR & TE looks good

He is not a featured back, and is headed for a full blown RBBC. The loss of Owens just means a less dynamic Cowboys offense, and more men in the box. If anything, i think he is too high on F&L's list.Also, Steven Jackson is one of the top 3 most talented backs in the league, and puts up monster numbers when he plays, even with a poor supporting cast. If healthy, he has just as good as a shot as finishing as the #1 RB as anyone. I dont really think one player is that much more injury prone than the next, so the health thing isnt a huge concern for me.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

theres always good info in your site there.

RB

Why so low on MBIII... I would put him ahead of Jacobs. And no way I could take SJax #3 w/ his injury history.

QB

Looks good to me, But I might put Orton in my top 20 or so

WR & TE looks good

He is not a featured back, and is headed for a full blown RBBC. The loss of Owens just means a less dynamic Cowboys offense, and more men in the box. If anything, i think he is too high on F&L's list.Also, Steven Jackson is one of the top 3 most talented backs in the league, and puts up monster numbers when he plays, even with a poor supporting cast. If healthy, he has just as good as a shot as finishing as the #1 RB as anyone. I dont really think one player is that much more injury prone than the next, so the health thing isnt a huge concern for me.

Exactly.

You gotta remember that Kelly's Heroes hates S-Jax. He used to have a signature where he bet me that Reggie Bush would be worth more than S-Jax in Dynasty leagues by last year, but that signature up and disappeared.

Edit to add: No offense, Kellys. Those are legit questions. I just like the back & forth on player values.

 

[Horses Mouth]

hey Dynasty Thread.....wake up!!!

 

[thecardiackid]

I've been in a couple dynasty leagues for about 3 years. One folded and I joined another, but haven't really traded picks much.

What should/could I expect to get for trading down from 1.05 into the 2nd for example - in a start up dynasty draft?

i.e. I give 1.05 and my 4th for their 2nd and 3rd, etc.

Is there a trade pick calculator that works in this scenario?

TIA

 

[Lott's Fingertip]

I've been in a couple dynasty leagues for about 3 years. One folded and I joined another, but haven't really traded picks much.

What should/could I expect to get for trading down from 1.05 into the 2nd for example - in a start up dynasty draft?

i.e. I give 1.05 and my 4th for their 2nd and 3rd, etc.

Is there a trade pick calculator that works in this scenario?

TIA

Theoretically, a 1st and 4th for a 2nd and 3rd is about fair, but it really isn't.Whomever is moving up in the highest round needs to make up for it somewhere. Moving 8 spots from the 2nd to the 1st is more significant than moving 8 spots down from the 3rd to the 4th. (this truism makes it painfully obvious that a dynasty startup should be using an auction...)

Maybe something along the lines of your 1st for his 2nd, then his 3rd for your 5th would be better, or his 4th for your 6th or so, and move up again later. Something like that.

ETA: Pick Value Calculator

 

[travdogg]

DeSean Jackson is a guy I'm a little curious about. He seems low to me. The guy put up close to 1,000 yards as a rookie despite being considered kind of raw and not even being expected to be a starter coming into the season.

Jackson has an excellent QB and is clearly his team's #1 WR and he's only 22. He strikes me as an excellent talent who likely would have been a 1st round pick(maybe top-15) if he were about 20 pounds heavier and an inch or 2 taller.

I just don't think he's getting enough credit for what he's shown so far and for his potential ability. For a small guy he seems to do well over the middle and obviously is a major deep threat.

How is he so far behind a similar WR like Santonio Holmes? Or behind older guys like Santana Moss and even Housh?

The other guy I wanted to ask about was Dustin Keller. I have no major gripe with him being 7th and in tier 2, but I'm curious as to your expectations for him. Do you think he's good enough as a blocker to be a full-time TE or is he possibly going to be a Tony Scheffler type receiving specialist? Are the Jets going to use him as a Dallas Clark type slot threat as they did fairly often last year or will he play more in-line with Baker gone?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

DeSean Jackson is a guy I'm a little curious about. He seems low to me. The guy put up close to 1,000 yards as a rookie despite being considered kind of raw and not even being expected to be a starter coming into the season.Jackson has an excellent QB and is clearly his team's #1 WR and he's only 22. He strikes me as an excellent talent who likely would have been a 1st round pick(maybe top-15) if he were about 20 pounds heavier and an inch or 2 taller.I just don't think he's getting enough credit for what he's shown so far and for his potential ability. For a small guy he seems to do well over the middle and obviously is a major deep threat.How is he so far behind a similar WR like Santonio Holmes? Or behind older guys like Santana Moss and even Housh?The other guy I wanted to ask about was Dustin Keller. I have no major gripe with him being 7th and in tier 2, but I'm curious as to your expectations for him. Do you think he's good enough as a blocker to be a full-time TE or is he possibly going to be a Tony Scheffler type receiving specialist? Are the Jets going to use him as a Dallas Clark type slot threat as they did fairly often last year or will he play more in-line with Baker gone?

That's a fair question on DeSean Jackson. I think Holmes is more talented, and I'm not sure how much Jackson will improve on his 2008 numbers. Re: Moss & Housh, I think it depends on team need. If I'm building, Jackson is definitely preferred. If I need to bank on 2009 more than future years, I'd probably go with Moss or Housh. But it's close. I'll give it some deeper thought on the next rankings.I've assumed all along that Dustin Keller will be used in a Dallas Clark slot role. I haven't read anything indicate that won't be the case, and Keller was a big part of the Jets offense in the second half of the season.

 

[travdogg]

DeSean Jackson is a guy I'm a little curious about. He seems low to me. The guy put up close to 1,000 yards as a rookie despite being considered kind of raw and not even being expected to be a starter coming into the season.Jackson has an excellent QB and is clearly his team's #1 WR and he's only 22. He strikes me as an excellent talent who likely would have been a 1st round pick(maybe top-15) if he were about 20 pounds heavier and an inch or 2 taller.I just don't think he's getting enough credit for what he's shown so far and for his potential ability. For a small guy he seems to do well over the middle and obviously is a major deep threat.How is he so far behind a similar WR like Santonio Holmes? Or behind older guys like Santana Moss and even Housh?The other guy I wanted to ask about was Dustin Keller. I have no major gripe with him being 7th and in tier 2, but I'm curious as to your expectations for him. Do you think he's good enough as a blocker to be a full-time TE or is he possibly going to be a Tony Scheffler type receiving specialist? Are the Jets going to use him as a Dallas Clark type slot threat as they did fairly often last year or will he play more in-line with Baker gone?

That's a fair question on DeSean Jackson. I think Holmes is more talented, and I'm not sure how much Jackson will improve on his 2008 numbers. Re: Moss & Housh, I think it depends on team need. If I'm building, Jackson is definitely preferred. If I need to bank on 2009 more than future years, I'd probably go with Moss or Housh. But it's close. I'll give it some deeper thought on the next rankings.I've assumed all along that Dustin Keller will be used in a Dallas Clark slot role. I haven't read anything indicate that won't be the case, and Keller was a big part of the Jets offense in the second half of the season.

Thanks for such a quick reply. I guess the part I don't get is why Jackson may not improve on his 08' numbers. A full offseason as a starter and natural progression from year 1 to year 2 would typically indicate a nice numbers spike, especially in such a pass heavy offense. It just seems to me that rookie WR's rarely put up 900+ yards on playoff teams so when one does it seems like it should mean big things, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. Jackson actually reminds me a lot of Santana Moss only with a better QB than moss has ever had.I actually kind of think you may be low on the Eagles in general, I have McNabb and Westbrook(could change if a top rookie is added) as top-10 guys at their positions still, with Jackson about 20th and if Philly doesn't take a TE high, Celek could be a top-10 guy in the Owen Daniels mold.Also, I'm impressed that you are sticking to your guns on Big Ben. I've seen him in the mid teens in many rankings. Seems a lot of people have short memories because its not often a QB has 34 TD's.

 

[renesauz]

DeSean Jackson is a guy I'm a little curious about. He seems low to me. The guy put up close to 1,000 yards as a rookie despite being considered kind of raw and not even being expected to be a starter coming into the season.Jackson has an excellent QB and is clearly his team's #1 WR and he's only 22. He strikes me as an excellent talent who likely would have been a 1st round pick(maybe top-15) if he were about 20 pounds heavier and an inch or 2 taller.I just don't think he's getting enough credit for what he's shown so far and for his potential ability. For a small guy he seems to do well over the middle and obviously is a major deep threat.How is he so far behind a similar WR like Santonio Holmes? Or behind older guys like Santana Moss and even Housh?The other guy I wanted to ask about was Dustin Keller. I have no major gripe with him being 7th and in tier 2, but I'm curious as to your expectations for him. Do you think he's good enough as a blocker to be a full-time TE or is he possibly going to be a Tony Scheffler type receiving specialist? Are the Jets going to use him as a Dallas Clark type slot threat as they did fairly often last year or will he play more in-line with Baker gone?

That's a fair question on DeSean Jackson. I think Holmes is more talented, and I'm not sure how much Jackson will improve on his 2008 numbers. Re: Moss & Housh, I think it depends on team need. If I'm building, Jackson is definitely preferred. If I need to bank on 2009 more than future years, I'd probably go with Moss or Housh. But it's close. I'll give it some deeper thought on the next rankings.I've assumed all along that Dustin Keller will be used in a Dallas Clark slot role. I haven't read anything indicate that won't be the case, and Keller was a big part of the Jets offense in the second half of the season.

Thanks for such a quick reply. I guess the part I don't get is why Jackson may not improve on his 08' numbers. A full offseason as a starter and natural progression from year 1 to year 2 would typically indicate a nice numbers spike, especially in such a pass heavy offense. It just seems to me that rookie WR's rarely put up 900+ yards on playoff teams so when one does it seems like it should mean big things, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. Jackson actually reminds me a lot of Santana Moss only with a better QB than moss has ever had.I actually kind of think you may be low on the Eagles in general, I have McNabb and Westbrook(could change if a top rookie is added) as top-10 guys at their positions still, with Jackson about 20th and if Philly doesn't take a TE high, Celek could be a top-10 guy in the Owen Daniels mold.Also, I'm impressed that you are sticking to your guns on Big Ben. I've seen him in the mid teens in many rankings. Seems a lot of people have short memories because its not often a QB has 34 TD's.

Because he has a healthy Curtis, (presumably) a healthy Brown, and an improving Avant to take those touches away. I love Jackson's long-term potential, but I'm not sure he'll ever be more then a borderline FANTASY #2. At the least, I don't see his 09' upside all that much higher then his 08' production.ETA: I'm both an Eagles homer and a Jackson fan.

 

[PlayaHata]

F&L - I tried sending you this via PM but your box was full...

Over the past week or so (maybe longer, not sure) I'm getting the following error that pops up when I try to close out of your blog. It's happening in both IE7 and IE8.

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After the error pops up, it doesn't matter if I click Yes or No. I have to click the button at least 20-30 times before I can get the tab to close.

Just thought you'd like to know...

 

[Fear & Loathing]

F&L - I tried sending you this via PM but your box was full...

Over the past week or so (maybe longer, not sure) I'm getting the following error that pops up when I try to close out of your blog. It's happening in both IE7 and IE8.

An error has occurred in the script on this page.

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Do you want to continue running scripts on this page?

After the error pops up, it doesn't matter if I click Yes or No. I have to click the button at least 20-30 times before I can get the tab to close.

Just thought you'd like to know...

Hmmmm ... I know nothing about programing or anything of that nature, but it's gotta be the combination of one of the apps on the site and your browser. I'll play around a bit, but I don't have any problems with Mozilla so I won't really be able to tell what's working and what's not.

 

[Crimson King]

I was wondering how people view Marshawn Lynch going forward. He has produced steady stats over his first two seasons on an offensively challenged team. How does his adding TO hurt or help his production in 2009 taking into account his suspension. I guess what I'm really wondering is if people view him as a potential dynasty runningback #1 or RB2 now and in future years (assuming he doesn't get into any more trouble).

Personally, I see a really solid talent mixed in with a terribly mediocre offense, especially at OL. Watching him play, he runs with excellent power and elusiveness but isn't terribly fast. He also seems to block and catch the ball well which point to someone suited to be a 3-down back. Do we have hope for improvement or will his carerr mirror his first two years? What is the overall opinion of dynasty leaguers?

 

[ChuckLiddell]

I was wondering how people view Marshawn Lynch going forward. He has produced steady stats over his first two seasons on an offensively challenged team. How does his adding TO hurt or help his production in 2009 taking into account his suspension. I guess what I'm really wondering is if people view him as a potential dynasty runningback #1 or RB2 now and in future years (assuming he doesn't get into any more trouble). Personally, I see a really solid talent mixed in with a terribly mediocre offense, especially at OL. Watching him play, he runs with excellent power and elusiveness but isn't terribly fast. He also seems to block and catch the ball well which point to someone suited to be a 3-down back. Do we have hope for improvement or will his carerr mirror his first two years? What is the overall opinion of dynasty leaguers?

Really high knuckelhead factor. Just a tier below Chris Henry. Hit and run, posession of marijuana, posession of an unlicensed firearm - all in less than a 2 year span. That is worrisome in a dynasty league.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

I was wondering how people view Marshawn Lynch going forward. He has produced steady stats over his first two seasons on an offensively challenged team. How does his adding TO hurt or help his production in 2009 taking into account his suspension. I guess what I'm really wondering is if people view him as a potential dynasty runningback #1 or RB2 now and in future years (assuming he doesn't get into any more trouble).

Personally, I see a really solid talent mixed in with a terribly mediocre offense, especially at OL. Watching him play, he runs with excellent power and elusiveness but isn't terribly fast. He also seems to block and catch the ball well which point to someone suited to be a 3-down back. Do we have hope for improvement or will his carerr mirror his first two years? What is the overall opinion of dynasty leaguers?

Maybe I've been listening to EBF too long on this one because Lynch doesn't really scare me. I think he's a young guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong crowd. All family and friends swear he's a great kid who just used bad judgment a few times.I know I should think he's a huge knucklehead, but I don't worry about him nearly as much as a guy like Brandon Marshall.

 

[stevegamer]

I was wondering how people view Marshawn Lynch going forward. He has produced steady stats over his first two seasons on an offensively challenged team. How does his adding TO hurt or help his production in 2009 taking into account his suspension. I guess what I'm really wondering is if people view him as a potential dynasty runningback #1 or RB2 now and in future years (assuming he doesn't get into any more trouble).

Personally, I see a really solid talent mixed in with a terribly mediocre offense, especially at OL. Watching him play, he runs with excellent power and elusiveness but isn't terribly fast. He also seems to block and catch the ball well which point to someone suited to be a 3-down back. Do we have hope for improvement or will his carerr mirror his first two years? What is the overall opinion of dynasty leaguers?

Maybe I've been listening to EBF too long on this one because Lynch doesn't really scare me. I think he's a young guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong crowd. All family and friends swear he's a great kid who just used bad judgment a few times.I know I should think he's a huge knucklehead, but I don't worry about him nearly as much as a guy like Brandon Marshall.

If true, the suspension is good news for Lynch - it might get him to striaghten out. Basically, I think of him as a knucklehead who has to prove he isn't a knucklehead - in other words, he'd make a good Bengal.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I was wondering how people view Marshawn Lynch going forward. He has produced steady stats over his first two seasons on an offensively challenged team. How does his adding TO hurt or help his production in 2009 taking into account his suspension. I guess what I'm really wondering is if people view him as a potential dynasty runningback #1 or RB2 now and in future years (assuming he doesn't get into any more trouble).

Personally, I see a really solid talent mixed in with a terribly mediocre offense, especially at OL. Watching him play, he runs with excellent power and elusiveness but isn't terribly fast. He also seems to block and catch the ball well which point to someone suited to be a 3-down back. Do we have hope for improvement or will his carerr mirror his first two years? What is the overall opinion of dynasty leaguers?

Maybe I've been listening to EBF too long on this one because Lynch doesn't really scare me. I think he's a young guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong crowd. All family and friends swear he's a great kid who just used bad judgment a few times.I know I should think he's a huge knucklehead, but I don't worry about him nearly as much as a guy like Brandon Marshall.

From everything I've read, it seems like at least this latest issue with Marshall is kind of bogus. Sounds like he didn't do anything but his woman went and called the cops because she was PO'd at him but recanted almost immediately. Apparently witnesses back up the fact that Marshall didn't do anything. I know he's had his issues, but it really seems like this latest incident is getting blown way out of proportion. And the sad thing is that he'll probably get suspended for something where he finally wasn't in the wrong.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Be curious about people's opinions on Chad Johnson if he landed on a solid team like the NYGs or Eagles?

Redraft/Dynasty: ~top 10, ~top 20

 

[travdogg]

Be curious about people's opinions on Chad Johnson if he landed on a solid team like the NYGs or Eagles?Redraft/Dynasty: ~top 10, ~top 20

I'm not sure it changes much, it probably goes down in NY. Its not like he's in a bad situation in Cincy, a lot of WR's would kill to play with Carson Palmer.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

From everything I've read, it seems like at least this latest issue with Marshall is kind of bogus. Sounds like he didn't do anything but his woman went and called the cops because she was PO'd at him but recanted almost immediately. Apparently witnesses back up the fact that Marshall didn't do anything. I know he's had his issues, but it really seems like this latest incident is getting blown way out of proportion. And the sad thing is that he'll probably get suspended for something where he finally wasn't in the wrong.

Brandon Marshall is constantly having problems with his women. He no longer deserves any benefit of the doubt on DV calls. Before I saw your response, I got to thinking about what goes into being a true "knucklehead." I coined the term awhile back to describe why I never wanted Plaxico Burress on my Dynasty rosters. There's a lot that goes into being a knucklehead but lately people have concentrated solely on players with legal issues. They're missing a big part of it. Plax was a rotten teammate, disrespected coaches, showed poor awareness & intelligence on the field (spiking the ball without getting touched on more than one occasion), and disappearing/pouting for long stretches of games. That last point is a very important one. I got really turned off on Plax earlier in Eli's career when Plax would just quit on routes, put forth a poor effort, etc. He did some of that in Pittsburgh too. Does Brandon Marshall have some of that in him? Tough to say. I haven't seen him put forth poor effort on the field, but I know there have been instances where he's disrespected his receivers coach and his head coach. Marshawn Lynch hasn't done any of that on-field knucklehead stuff as far as I know, and I don't think he's ever been a bad teammate or an insubordinate employee for the Bills.

 

[BeTheMatch]

From everything I've read, it seems like at least this latest issue with Marshall is kind of bogus. Sounds like he didn't do anything but his woman went and called the cops because she was PO'd at him but recanted almost immediately. Apparently witnesses back up the fact that Marshall didn't do anything. I know he's had his issues, but it really seems like this latest incident is getting blown way out of proportion. And the sad thing is that he'll probably get suspended for something where he finally wasn't in the wrong.

Brandon Marshall is constantly having problems with his women. He no longer deserves any benefit of the doubt on DV calls. Before I saw your response, I got to thinking about what goes into being a true "knucklehead." I coined the term awhile back to describe why I never wanted Plaxico Burress on my Dynasty rosters. There's a lot that goes into being a knucklehead but lately people have concentrated solely on players with legal issues. They're missing a big part of it.

Plax was a rotten teammate, disrespected coaches, showed poor awareness & intelligence on the field (spiking the ball without getting touched on more than one occasion), and disappearing/pouting for long stretches of games. That last point is a very important one. I got really turned off on Plax earlier in Eli's career when Plax would just quit on routes, put forth a poor effort, etc. He did some of that in Pittsburgh too.

Does Brandon Marshall have some of that in him? Tough to say. I haven't seen him put forth poor effort on the field, but I know there have been instances where he's disrespected his receivers coach and his head coach.

Marshawn Lynch hasn't done any of that on-field knucklehead stuff as far as I know, and I don't think he's ever been a bad teammate or an insubordinate employee for the Bills.

I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt in this case. I'm simply going by what those that were involved in the situation, including the police, have said.Believe me, I'm worried about him, but I think this latest case is being overblown. He obviously needs to make better choices about who he surrounds himself with, but I'm hoping all his talk about growing up and learning from his mistakes might actually have some truth to it. Obviously we'll find out.

 

[bcr8f]

From everything I've read, it seems like at least this latest issue with Marshall is kind of bogus. Sounds like he didn't do anything but his woman went and called the cops because she was PO'd at him but recanted almost immediately. Apparently witnesses back up the fact that Marshall didn't do anything. I know he's had his issues, but it really seems like this latest incident is getting blown way out of proportion. And the sad thing is that he'll probably get suspended for something where he finally wasn't in the wrong.

Brandon Marshall is constantly having problems with his women. He no longer deserves any benefit of the doubt on DV calls. Before I saw your response, I got to thinking about what goes into being a true "knucklehead." I coined the term awhile back to describe why I never wanted Plaxico Burress on my Dynasty rosters. There's a lot that goes into being a knucklehead but lately people have concentrated solely on players with legal issues. They're missing a big part of it. Plax was a rotten teammate, disrespected coaches, showed poor awareness & intelligence on the field (spiking the ball without getting touched on more than one occasion), and disappearing/pouting for long stretches of games. That last point is a very important one. I got really turned off on Plax earlier in Eli's career when Plax would just quit on routes, put forth a poor effort, etc. He did some of that in Pittsburgh too. Does Brandon Marshall have some of that in him? Tough to say. I haven't seen him put forth poor effort on the field, but I know there have been instances where he's disrespected his receivers coach and his head coach. Marshawn Lynch hasn't done any of that on-field knucklehead stuff as far as I know, and I don't think he's ever been a bad teammate or an insubordinate employee for the Bills.

If Marshall keeps having the same problems he needs to find different types of women. It is probably in the type of women he is attracted to. It comes from within unless he is a violent person(which I doubt).He needs to stay on the west coast too.

 

[thecardiackid]

Any opinions on Addai's value moving forward?

I still kinda like him, but have him behind Turner and MJD, w/ some other OK fill in options (Benson, Charles, K Faulk, Norwood, J Harrison) I think Addai can bounce back and put up RB2 #s w/ upside - if he can stay on the field. and maybe he has another 3 years till they break up the band or Peyton retires. BUT I can see IND drafting a RB in the first 3 rounds w/ Rhodes gone now.

I rec'd a offer including a 1st next year, and it's kinda tempting. (don't have a 1st this year)

 

[Fear & Loathing]

F&L - I apologize as I am sure this has been covered, but I can't find it.

1. Are your Dynasty ratings primarily for PPR or non-PPR? If they are for non-PPR and I needed to reinterpret them for PPR, any suggestions?

2. Do the numerical ratings map across postions? That is, is a RB rated 85 roughly comparable to a WR or QB rated 85?

Thanks.

1. I generally consider some form of PPR (closer to 0.5 PPR), but I think a full point per reception is a little over the top. 2. No, the ratings don't match up across positions. Here's a quote from my rudimentary FAQ:

These numbers are not intended as a trade guide across positions. If they do happen to serve that purpose for some owners who find a beneficial way to tinker with the numbers, that's a bonus. I probably wasn't all that clear in my intentions, but I think this quote sums up the problems with an overall ranking vs. a positional ranking:

"Until we all start playing by the same rules and scoring systems, I think an overall ranking with a built-in trade value scale for dynasty leagues would be next to impossible. I imagine I could take a stab at it if I had to, but there's really no incentive to put even more time and effort into something that probably wouldn't be all that useful."

3. I'm going to try to update the blog rankings tonight. I know I've been neglecting the Sons of the Tundra blog, but I just haven't had the time lately with the Rotoworld baseball & football news plus the Pancake Blocks blog and now our spring magazine due in the next couple of weeks. After the magazine comes out, I'll sit down and figure out what I'm going to do about the blog long-term. I don't really want to keep it up and running on a regular basis unless I can be proud of the work I put into it, but maybe I can just keep it as a home for updated rankings and ditch the rest of it. I'm less than enthusiastic about that option though.

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Any opinions on Addai's value moving forward?I still kinda like him, but have him behind Turner and MJD, w/ some other OK fill in options (Benson, Charles, K Faulk, Norwood, J Harrison) I think Addai can bounce back and put up RB2 #s w/ upside - if he can stay on the field. and maybe he has another 3 years till they break up the band or Peyton retires. BUT I can see IND drafting a RB in the first 3 rounds w/ Rhodes gone now.I rec'd a offer including a 1st next year, and it's kinda tempting. (don't have a 1st this year)

I've never been an Addai fan, so I'm an unbeliever. You'd be selling awfully low on him right now, but you'd be selling even lower next week if an early-round Colts RB pick sends his value the way of Willie Parker's last offseason. It's hard to make a decision one way or another until we see what the Colts do Saturday. Do you feel lucky?

 

[Fear & Loathing]

Hey F&L, I know at one point you had a kicker dynasty ranking on the Sons of Tundra. I can't seem to find one more recent than November.

I've been studying kickers lately because I have to do projections and blurbs for the upcoming Beckett/Rotoworld mag. As a result, I finally got around to updating the kicker rankings on the blog.

 

[dotman]

DeSean Jackson is a guy I'm a little curious about. He seems low to me. The guy put up close to 1,000 yards as a rookie despite being considered kind of raw and not even being expected to be a starter coming into the season.Jackson has an excellent QB and is clearly his team's #1 WR and he's only 22. He strikes me as an excellent talent who likely would have been a 1st round pick(maybe top-15) if he were about 20 pounds heavier and an inch or 2 taller.I just don't think he's getting enough credit for what he's shown so far and for his potential ability. For a small guy he seems to do well over the middle and obviously is a major deep threat.How is he so far behind a similar WR like Santonio Holmes? Or behind older guys like Santana Moss and even Housh?The other guy I wanted to ask about was Dustin Keller. I have no major gripe with him being 7th and in tier 2, but I'm curious as to your expectations for him. Do you think he's good enough as a blocker to be a full-time TE or is he possibly going to be a Tony Scheffler type receiving specialist? Are the Jets going to use him as a Dallas Clark type slot threat as they did fairly often last year or will he play more in-line with Baker gone?

That's a fair question on DeSean Jackson. I think Holmes is more talented, and I'm not sure how much Jackson will improve on his 2008 numbers. Re: Moss & Housh, I think it depends on team need. If I'm building, Jackson is definitely preferred. If I need to bank on 2009 more than future years, I'd probably go with Moss or Housh. But it's close. I'll give it some deeper thought on the next rankings.I've assumed all along that Dustin Keller will be used in a Dallas Clark slot role. I haven't read anything indicate that won't be the case, and Keller was a big part of the Jets offense in the second half of the season.

Thanks for such a quick reply. I guess the part I don't get is why Jackson may not improve on his 08' numbers. A full offseason as a starter and natural progression from year 1 to year 2 would typically indicate a nice numbers spike, especially in such a pass heavy offense. It just seems to me that rookie WR's rarely put up 900+ yards on playoff teams so when one does it seems like it should mean big things, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. Jackson actually reminds me a lot of Santana Moss only with a better QB than moss has ever had.I actually kind of think you may be low on the Eagles in general, I have McNabb and Westbrook(could change if a top rookie is added) as top-10 guys at their positions still, with Jackson about 20th and if Philly doesn't take a TE high, Celek could be a top-10 guy in the Owen Daniels mold.Also, I'm impressed that you are sticking to your guns on Big Ben. I've seen him in the mid teens in many rankings. Seems a lot of people have short memories because its not often a QB has 34 TD's.

Because he has a healthy Curtis, (presumably) a healthy Brown, and an improving Avant to take those touches away. I love Jackson's long-term potential, but I'm not sure he'll ever be more then a borderline FANTASY #2. At the least, I don't see his 09' upside all that much higher then his 08' production.ETA: I'm both an Eagles homer and a Jackson fan.

Jackson was WR #31 in non PPR last season which is almost borderline fantasy #2. His long term potential is much higher than that, he has skills...if you were watching him I don't know why you don't see a #1. He's fast enough to blow right by people but also makes tough catches in traffic and at the sideline. I guess I'm not sure why you don't think he will progress from his rookie season like most receivers do??

 

[NorrisB]

yeah I dont see jackson being anymore than a #2

 

[brobe4]

Thanks Fear!!

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Jackson was WR #31 in non PPR last season which is almost borderline fantasy #2. His long term potential is much higher than that, he has skills...if you were watching him I don't know why you don't see a #1. He's fast enough to blow right by people but also makes tough catches in traffic and at the sideline. I guess I'm not sure why you don't think he will progress from his rookie season like most receivers do??

Because most of that progress is just getting more opportunity. And Jackson had all the opportunity in the world last year (in a top notch passing offense). He's also too slight - there hasn't been a guy his size be a #1 WR in at least the last dozen years.

 

[Q-Bert]

Jackson was WR #31 in non PPR last season which is almost borderline fantasy #2. His long term potential is much higher than that, he has skills...if you were watching him I don't know why you don't see a #1. He's fast enough to blow right by people but also makes tough catches in traffic and at the sideline. I guess I'm not sure why you don't think he will progress from his rookie season like most receivers do??

That isn't even close to borderline fantasy #2. I think borderline fantasy #3 is being generous. If you have a team with QB6, RB6, RB18, WR6, WR18, WR30, and TE6 you would have a QB1, RB1, RB2, WR1, WR2, WR3, and TE1 and you would finish at .500 and out of the playoffs. Championships are won by teams who have two RB1's or 2WR2's. A guy who finishes as WR31 is no better than a bye week filler.