Dynasty RB #8 (1 Viewer)

[JuSt CuZ]

1. Adrian Peterson 3/21/85 --- 69.5% (MJD 13%)

2. Maurice Jones-Drew 3/23/85 --- 46.6% (SJax 27%)

3. Steven Jackson 7/22/83 --- 47.2% (CJ 17%)

4. Chris Johnson 9/23/85 --- 33.3% (Forte 18%)

5. Frank Gore 5/14/83 --- 24.7% (Forte 22%)

6. Matt Forte 12/10/85 --- 22.6% (Turner 20%)

7. Michael Turner 2/13/82 --- 20.6% (DWill 10%)

CLOSED

 

[chocolate bomber]

1. Adrian Peterson 3/21/85 --- 69.5% (MJD 13%)2. Maurice Jones-Drew 3/23/85 --- 46.6% (SJax 27%)3. Steven Jackson 7/22/83 --- 47.2% (CJ 17%)4. Chris Johnson 9/23/85 --- 33.3% (Forte 18%)5. Frank Gore 5/14/83 --- 24.7% (Forte 22%)6. Matt Forte 12/10/85 --- 22.6% (Turner 20%)7. Michael Turner 2/13/82 --- 20.6% (DWill 10%)Vote for #8 now, will only close after 150 votes if margin is wide enough.

Wow…Slaton's only got one more vote than Mcfadden? What the hell did this kid do to the SP?

 

[loose circuits]

Deangelo impressed the hell out of me last year

 

[Yitbos69]

How is Kevin Smith not this list?

 

[travdogg]

Wow…Slaton's only got one more vote than Mcfadden? What the hell did this kid do to the SP?

I wouldn't deal McFadden for Slaton. Of course I'm a big believer in McFadden's talent.

 

[Cookiemonster]

27 year-old Portis is getting very disrespected. Because of his lack of love in the Shark Pool, he'll rip us up for 3-straight top 5 finishes.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

How is Kevin Smith not this list?

He wouldn't even be on my radar at this point.

 

[doowain]

How is Kevin Smith not this list?

I'd prefer him over everyone up there outside of MBIII and DeAngelo. To say he doesn't belong up there is insane. If these unproven rookies are on this list without even knowing where they'll end up, Kevin Smith definitely deserves to be on it.

He's the unquestioned starter for the Lions and is a 3-down back who excels in catching out of the backfield. He had 277 touches last year (39 recepts) and went for nearly 1300 combined yards, a 4.1 ypc, and 8 TDs. That was on a horrible Lions team where he got jacked around by the coach for half the year. I don't believe he was even officially given the starting reigns until midway through the season.

Not only is he the starter, but he was still a Top 5 pick in most rookie drafts last year. So, it's not like he came out of nowhere.

He rushed for 2,567 yards and 30 TDs his junior (final) season at Central Florida. Now, I know you may want to knock him because he played in Conference USA, but two other "big time RBs" from this same 2008 rookie class played in the C-USA. Deangelo Williams also played in the C-USA.



Matt Forte - 2007

2127 yards / 23 TDs

Chris Johnson - 2007

1423 yards / 17 TDs

So, against the same competition, Kevin Smith outproduced them. Now, I know you are going to point at his insane number of carries as the reason for this, but all three RBs ypc were fairly similar.

Kevin Smith - 450 carries - 5.7 ypc

Matt Forte - 361 carries - 5.9 ypc

Chris Johnson - 236 carries - 6.0 ypc

So, why all of the love for Forte and CJ3 (both in the Top 6), but none for Kevin Smith? Is it because of the team he plays for? It can't be because of talent, because if you watch the kid play he has the talent in spades. It can't be his heart and determination, because he plays with as much as anyone I've watched in recent memory. As you can tell I really like the kid and it blows my mind that he's not even in the discussion right now.

Everyone passing him over is going to be sorry. Mark my words, this kid is going to be really good. I'm not only judging him on the field either. I've seen a lot of his interviews and he has a good head on his shoulders. He expresses that he "wants to be one of the best backs in the league". That's a nice change of pace from some RBs of recent memory (McGahee, for example) claiming their greatness before they ever even do anything.

He was RB17 last year without a full workload. This kid is going to be gold in PPR leagues imo. I would not be surprised at all to see him finish in the Top 10 this year. He will be a 2nd round pick in all drafts next year. Don't miss out before it's too late.

ETA:

I just have this feeling a lot of people haven't seem him play because he plays for the Lions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N1z1-ASRiE

1:42 - WHOOPS

3:17 & 7:13 -

 

[JuSt CuZ]

How is Kevin Smith not this list?

You must not be from Detroit!15 people are on the list, I think simple minds can all agree K.Smith...A Lion.... is nowhere near the top 10, he can wait to the #9 poll, soon someone is gonna ask why Tatum Bell is not on the list.....better yet where is Rudi Johnson, or maybe Shaun Alexander. P.S. If you take KS in the first, where were u when we signed up for this new start up i'm in!

 

[JuSt CuZ]

How is Kevin Smith not this list?

I'd prefer him over everyone up there outside of MBIII and DeAngelo. To say he doesn't belong up there is insane. If these unproven rookies are on this list without even knowing where they'll end up, Kevin Smith definitely deserves to be on it.

He's the unquestioned starter for the Lions and is a 3-down back who excels in catching out of the backfield. He had 277 touches last year (39 recepts) and went for nearly 1300 combined yards, a 4.1 ypc, and 8 TDs. That was on a horrible Lions team where he got jacked around by the coach for half the year. I don't believe he was even officially given the starting reigns until midway through the season.

Not only is he the starter, but he was still a Top 5 pick in most rookie drafts last year. So, it's not like he came out of nowhere.

He rushed for 2,567 yards and 30 TDs his junior (final) season at Central Florida. Now, I know you may want to knock him because he played in Conference USA, but two other "big time RBs" from this same 2008 rookie class played in the C-USA. Deangelo Williams also played in the C-USA.



Matt Forte - 2007

2127 yards / 23 TDs

Chris Johnson - 2007

1423 yards / 17 TDs

So, against the same competition, Kevin Smith outproduced them. Now, I know you are going to point at his insane number of carries as the reason for this, but all three RBs ypc were fairly similar.

Kevin Smith - 450 carries - 5.7 ypc

Matt Forte - 361 carries - 5.9 ypc

Chris Johnson - 236 carries - 6.0 ypc

So, why all of the love for Forte and CJ3 (both in the Top 6), but none for Kevin Smith? Is it because of the team he plays for? It can't be because of talent, because if you watch the kid play he has the talent in spades. It can't be his heart and determination, because he plays with as much as anyone I've watched in recent memory. As you can tell I really like the kid and it blows my mind that he's not even in the discussion right now.

Everyone passing him over is going to be sorry. Mark my words, this kid is going to be really good. I'm not only judging him on the field either. I've seen a lot of his interviews and he has a good head on his shoulders. He expresses that he "wants to be one of the best backs in the league". That's a nice change of pace from some RBs of recent memory (McGahee, for example) claiming their greatness before they ever even do anything.

He was RB17 last year without a full workload. This kid is going to be gold in PPR leagues imo. I would not be surprised at all to see him finish in the Top 10 this year. He will be a 2nd round pick in all drafts next year. Don't miss out before it's too late.

ETA:

I just have this feeling a lot of people haven't seem him play because he plays for the Lions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N1z1-ASRiE

1:42 - WHOOPS

3:17 & 7:13 -

And Andre Ware won the Heisman in college.......what your point?Why not Kevin Smith.....He's a lion, 0-16......good excuses?

I understand he is a rookie, but still he really made them better in his first year......NOT!

CJ, and Forte had there teams in the hunt.....and no excuse when people say Forte WAS the team why could KS not be the team.......Because he simply is not as good and is on a team that just is not anywhere near a winning formula!

KS, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo where near this list, IMO!

 

[doowain]

How is Kevin Smith not this list?

You must not be from Detroit!15 people are on the list, I think simple minds can all agree K.Smith...A Lion.... is nowhere near the top 10, he can wait to the #9 poll, soon someone is gonna ask why Tatum Bell is not on the list.....better yet where is Rudi Johnson, or maybe Shaun Alexander. P.S. If you take KS in the first, where were u when we signed up for this new start up i'm in!

OK, I didn't say anything about taking Kevin Smith in the first round. In fact, I even said he'd be a 2nd round pick in drafts NEXT year.....which if you connect the dots, means I'd take him AFTER the 2nd round this year. Maybe a better approach would have been to say your list is much too big for the RB8 poll.The fact remains that Kevin Smith has as much right to be on this list as the following: Knowshon Moreno - where is he going?Chris Wells - dittoRonnie Brown - one 1000 yard season, injury bug, will be 28 this yearJStewart - crazy talented backup, yes, but also sitting behind 2008's #1FF playerBush - saved by the PPR, but just not a good RBMcFadden - overrated from Day 1 and he plays for the Raiders - that excuse goes both waysJacobs - would have to hit Michael Turner #s to be considered in the Top 10 - not gonna happenAddai - hasn't eclipsed 1100 yards and has been outplayed by Dominic Rhodes consistentlyWestbrook/LT/Portis - aging studs who you don't build your team around in a startup dynastyAgain, no way I'd take Kevin Smith in the 1st round or even in the 2nd round (took him mid-3rd in a recent startup), but to say he doesn't deserve to be in the conversation when you are putting some of these other guys out there is absurd.You say he's not nearly as good as Forte or CJ3....yet you don't give any reasons, other than he's a Lion. I stand by my statement that most of the people who knock on him either do so because he's a Lion or because they've never seen him play.

 

[AKA]

How is Kevin Smith not this list?

I'd prefer him over everyone up there outside of MBIII and DeAngelo. To say he doesn't belong up there is insane. If these unproven rookies are on this list without even knowing where they'll end up, Kevin Smith definitely deserves to be on it.

He's the unquestioned starter for the Lions and is a 3-down back who excels in catching out of the backfield. He had 277 touches last year (39 recepts) and went for nearly 1300 combined yards, a 4.1 ypc, and 8 TDs. That was on a horrible Lions team where he got jacked around by the coach for half the year. I don't believe he was even officially given the starting reigns until midway through the season.

Not only is he the starter, but he was still a Top 5 pick in most rookie drafts last year. So, it's not like he came out of nowhere.

He rushed for 2,567 yards and 30 TDs his junior (final) season at Central Florida. Now, I know you may want to knock him because he played in Conference USA, but two other "big time RBs" from this same 2008 rookie class played in the C-USA. Deangelo Williams also played in the C-USA.



Matt Forte - 2007

2127 yards / 23 TDs

Chris Johnson - 2007

1423 yards / 17 TDs

So, against the same competition, Kevin Smith outproduced them. Now, I know you are going to point at his insane number of carries as the reason for this, but all three RBs ypc were fairly similar.

Kevin Smith - 450 carries - 5.7 ypc

Matt Forte - 361 carries - 5.9 ypc

Chris Johnson - 236 carries - 6.0 ypc

So, why all of the love for Forte and CJ3 (both in the Top 6), but none for Kevin Smith? Is it because of the team he plays for? It can't be because of talent, because if you watch the kid play he has the talent in spades. It can't be his heart and determination, because he plays with as much as anyone I've watched in recent memory. As you can tell I really like the kid and it blows my mind that he's not even in the discussion right now.

Everyone passing him over is going to be sorry. Mark my words, this kid is going to be really good. I'm not only judging him on the field either. I've seen a lot of his interviews and he has a good head on his shoulders. He expresses that he "wants to be one of the best backs in the league". That's a nice change of pace from some RBs of recent memory (McGahee, for example) claiming their greatness before they ever even do anything.

He was RB17 last year without a full workload. This kid is going to be gold in PPR leagues imo. I would not be surprised at all to see him finish in the Top 10 this year. He will be a 2nd round pick in all drafts next year. Don't miss out before it's too late.

ETA:

I just have this feeling a lot of people haven't seem him play because he plays for the Lions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N1z1-ASRiE

1:42 - WHOOPS

3:17 & 7:13 -

And Andre Ware won the Heisman in college.......what your point?Why not Kevin Smith.....He's a lion, 0-16......good excuses?

I understand he is a rookie, but still he really made them better in his first year......NOT!

CJ, and Forte had there teams in the hunt.....and no excuse when people say Forte WAS the team why could KS not be the team.......Because he simply is not as good and is on a team that just is not anywhere near a winning formula!

KS, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo where near this list, IMO!

I thought were were trying to get every one's opinions not just yours.......TIA

 

[FUBAR]

How is Kevin Smith not this list?

I'd prefer him over everyone up there outside of MBIII and DeAngelo. To say he doesn't belong up there is insane. If these unproven rookies are on this list without even knowing where they'll end up, Kevin Smith definitely deserves to be on it.

-snip-

He was RB17 last year without a full workload. This kid is going to be gold in PPR leagues imo. I would not be surprised at all to see him finish in the Top 10 this year. He will be a 2nd round pick in all drafts next year. Don't miss out before it's too late.

So you're saying a guy who might finish top 10 this year and will be a 2nd round pick next year, should be top 10 right now? Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point. I might take him over Moreno, Wells, and Addai but all of the others will be gone before I'd look his way.

 

[doowain]

How is Kevin Smith not this list?

I'd prefer him over everyone up there outside of MBIII and DeAngelo. To say he doesn't belong up there is insane. If these unproven rookies are on this list without even knowing where they'll end up, Kevin Smith definitely deserves to be on it.

-snip-

He was RB17 last year without a full workload. This kid is going to be gold in PPR leagues imo. I would not be surprised at all to see him finish in the Top 10 this year. He will be a 2nd round pick in all drafts next year. Don't miss out before it's too late.

So you're saying a guy who might finish top 10 this year and will be a 2nd round pick next year, should be top 10 right now? Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point. I might take him over Moreno, Wells, and Addai but all of the others will be gone before I'd look his way.

Yes you are misunderstanding. Read the second to last paragraph in post 11. I'm not saying he's top 10 but if he's going to include moreno and wells and then in the same breath to say Smith doesn't even belong in the conversation is WAY off. That was my whole point.

 

[FUBAR]

How is Kevin Smith not this list?

I'd prefer him over everyone up there outside of MBIII and DeAngelo. To say he doesn't belong up there is insane. If these unproven rookies are on this list without even knowing where they'll end up, Kevin Smith definitely deserves to be on it.

-snip-

He was RB17 last year without a full workload. This kid is going to be gold in PPR leagues imo. I would not be surprised at all to see him finish in the Top 10 this year. He will be a 2nd round pick in all drafts next year. Don't miss out before it's too late.

So you're saying a guy who might finish top 10 this year and will be a 2nd round pick next year, should be top 10 right now? Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point. I might take him over Moreno, Wells, and Addai but all of the others will be gone before I'd look his way.

Yes you are misunderstanding. Read the second to last paragraph in post 11. I'm not saying he's top 10 but if he's going to include moreno and wells and then in the same breath to say Smith doesn't even belong in the conversation is WAY off. That was my whole point.

Please clarify what you mean by this then:

I'd prefer him over everyone up there outside of MBIII and DeAngelo.

 

[doowain]

I meant that Id prefer him over nearly everyone on that list. That doesn't mean I'm going to draft him that high. I thought Calvin shouldve gone much higher last year but I still got him in the third round in every league.

 

[lyon812]

How is Kevin Smith not this list?

I'd prefer him over everyone up there outside of MBIII and DeAngelo. To say he doesn't belong up there is insane. If these unproven rookies are on this list without even knowing where they'll end up, Kevin Smith definitely deserves to be on it.

He's the unquestioned starter for the Lions and is a 3-down back who excels in catching out of the backfield. He had 277 touches last year (39 recepts) and went for nearly 1300 combined yards, a 4.1 ypc, and 8 TDs. That was on a horrible Lions team where he got jacked around by the coach for half the year. I don't believe he was even officially given the starting reigns until midway through the season.

Not only is he the starter, but he was still a Top 5 pick in most rookie drafts last year. So, it's not like he came out of nowhere.

He rushed for 2,567 yards and 30 TDs his junior (final) season at Central Florida. Now, I know you may want to knock him because he played in Conference USA, but two other "big time RBs" from this same 2008 rookie class played in the C-USA. Deangelo Williams also played in the C-USA.



Matt Forte - 2007

2127 yards / 23 TDs

Chris Johnson - 2007

1423 yards / 17 TDs

So, against the same competition, Kevin Smith outproduced them. Now, I know you are going to point at his insane number of carries as the reason for this, but all three RBs ypc were fairly similar.

Kevin Smith - 450 carries - 5.7 ypc

Matt Forte - 361 carries - 5.9 ypc

Chris Johnson - 236 carries - 6.0 ypc

So, why all of the love for Forte and CJ3 (both in the Top 6), but none for Kevin Smith? Is it because of the team he plays for? It can't be because of talent, because if you watch the kid play he has the talent in spades. It can't be his heart and determination, because he plays with as much as anyone I've watched in recent memory. As you can tell I really like the kid and it blows my mind that he's not even in the discussion right now.

Everyone passing him over is going to be sorry. Mark my words, this kid is going to be really good. I'm not only judging him on the field either. I've seen a lot of his interviews and he has a good head on his shoulders. He expresses that he "wants to be one of the best backs in the league". That's a nice change of pace from some RBs of recent memory (McGahee, for example) claiming their greatness before they ever even do anything.

He was RB17 last year without a full workload. This kid is going to be gold in PPR leagues imo. I would not be surprised at all to see him finish in the Top 10 this year. He will be a 2nd round pick in all drafts next year. Don't miss out before it's too late.

ETA:

I just have this feeling a lot of people haven't seem him play because he plays for the Lions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N1z1-ASRiE

1:42 - WHOOPS

3:17 & 7:13 -

And Andre Ware won the Heisman in college.......what your point?Why not Kevin Smith.....He's a lion, 0-16......good excuses?

I understand he is a rookie, but still he really made them better in his first year......NOT!

CJ, and Forte had there teams in the hunt.....and no excuse when people say Forte WAS the team why could KS not be the team.......Because he simply is not as good and is on a team that just is not anywhere near a winning formula!

KS, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo where near this list, IMO!

This has to be one of the weakest rebuttals ever. By that logic, Calvin Johnson also should be ranked very low in dynasty leagues because his team was 0-16. In fact, he shouldn't even be in the top 25 WR, because with Johnson's talent, Detroit should have been at least 14-2. Screw them both. It's a shame no Lions players are dynasty-worthy. Stupid Kevin Smith and his solid production on a crappy team. He's terrible. It was all his fault! *shakes fist and cries* Damn you, rookie!

 

[AKA]

How is Kevin Smith not this list?

I'd prefer him over everyone up there outside of MBIII and DeAngelo. To say he doesn't belong up there is insane. If these unproven rookies are on this list without even knowing where they'll end up, Kevin Smith definitely deserves to be on it.

He's the unquestioned starter for the Lions and is a 3-down back who excels in catching out of the backfield. He had 277 touches last year (39 recepts) and went for nearly 1300 combined yards, a 4.1 ypc, and 8 TDs. That was on a horrible Lions team where he got jacked around by the coach for half the year. I don't believe he was even officially given the starting reigns until midway through the season.

Not only is he the starter, but he was still a Top 5 pick in most rookie drafts last year. So, it's not like he came out of nowhere.

He rushed for 2,567 yards and 30 TDs his junior (final) season at Central Florida. Now, I know you may want to knock him because he played in Conference USA, but two other "big time RBs" from this same 2008 rookie class played in the C-USA. Deangelo Williams also played in the C-USA.



Matt Forte - 2007

2127 yards / 23 TDs

Chris Johnson - 2007

1423 yards / 17 TDs

So, against the same competition, Kevin Smith outproduced them. Now, I know you are going to point at his insane number of carries as the reason for this, but all three RBs ypc were fairly similar.

Kevin Smith - 450 carries - 5.7 ypc

Matt Forte - 361 carries - 5.9 ypc

Chris Johnson - 236 carries - 6.0 ypc

So, why all of the love for Forte and CJ3 (both in the Top 6), but none for Kevin Smith? Is it because of the team he plays for? It can't be because of talent, because if you watch the kid play he has the talent in spades. It can't be his heart and determination, because he plays with as much as anyone I've watched in recent memory. As you can tell I really like the kid and it blows my mind that he's not even in the discussion right now.

Everyone passing him over is going to be sorry. Mark my words, this kid is going to be really good. I'm not only judging him on the field either. I've seen a lot of his interviews and he has a good head on his shoulders. He expresses that he "wants to be one of the best backs in the league". That's a nice change of pace from some RBs of recent memory (McGahee, for example) claiming their greatness before they ever even do anything.

He was RB17 last year without a full workload. This kid is going to be gold in PPR leagues imo. I would not be surprised at all to see him finish in the Top 10 this year. He will be a 2nd round pick in all drafts next year. Don't miss out before it's too late.

ETA:

I just have this feeling a lot of people haven't seem him play because he plays for the Lions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N1z1-ASRiE

1:42 - WHOOPS

3:17 & 7:13 -

And Andre Ware won the Heisman in college.......what your point?Why not Kevin Smith.....He's a lion, 0-16......good excuses?

I understand he is a rookie, but still he really made them better in his first year......NOT!

CJ, and Forte had there teams in the hunt.....and no excuse when people say Forte WAS the team why could KS not be the team.......Because he simply is not as good and is on a team that just is not anywhere near a winning formula!

KS, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo where near this list, IMO!

This has to be one of the weakest rebuttals ever. By that logic, Calvin Johnson also should be ranked very low in dynasty leagues because his team was 0-16. In fact, he shouldn't even be in the top 25 WR, because with Johnson's talent, Detroit should have been at least 14-2. Screw them both. It's a shame no Lions players are dynasty-worthy. Stupid Kevin Smith and his solid production on a crappy team. He's terrible. It was all his fault! *shakes fist and cries* Damn you, rookie!