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[airbornemedik]

Now that it seems the Patriots Dynasty is over (and what an impressive run it was) where does it fit in the Super Bowl era Dynasties??My list1) Dallas- By far the greatest team, best o-line in history2) Miami- Went 3yrs in a row and had Undefeated season3) Patriots- Did this in the Salary Cap Age4) 49ers- maybe #3, but look how expensive their team was5) Steelers- Great team, but played in a weak time6) Bills- Probably be #2 if they had won half of their apperences

 

[Cookiemonster]

Too early to say it's over. 49ers weren't done after '84. That team was good for a long time but faced some good competition in the 80's. I don't see any reason the Pats can't be back on top in coming years. If they manage to stay healthy for a full season, and add a good RB they can be right back in it next year.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

It pains me to point this out, but the Bills don't belong on that list. You need to actually win a SB or two before you're put in the same category as the other dynasties you mentioned.

 

[JohnnyU]

I'm not sure where they rank, but it has to be in the top 3 or 4 teams ever. I'm even more impressed by the way they did it. In the era of free agency, and not having top flight WRs, and only having a decent RB for 1 seasons (Dillon, this year doesn't count, because he wasn't that good), you have to take your hat off to them. Also, not to mention the coaches they lost to other teams, VERY IMPRESSIVE.

 

[crowe1130]

My two cents...Cowboys and Dolphins are ranked too high, 49ers and Steelers too low. Bills don't belong on the list at all.And why does everyone always leave the Packers off these lists? NFL titles in 60, 61, 62, 66, 67, and 68. Super Bowls I and II in 67 and 68.Not sure how the Steelers played in a "weak time?" Miami, Oakland, Dallas, Minnesota, and even Houston were extremely good teams during that decade. I'd be much more likely to call the Cowboys' era a "weak time." San Francisco was their only competition, and sadly the AFC could only produce the Bills over and over and over and over again.EDITED TO ADD an answer to your original question (sorry, it's still early.) I think you have the Pats pegged correctly. Definitely in the top 3 or 4. I'm definitely not counting their dynasty to be "over" at all, though. They've still got time to tack on titles.

 

[Colin Dowling]

1. Their "run" is not over.2. It's not a dynasty yet in my view, but that's a discussion for a different time.Colin

 

[zanti8]

i think the competition was the strongest from 85-91 . the 49ers, redskins, giants and bears had to beat 1 or 2 teams in the nfc on the way to the title that would pound many super bowl champs before or after imo . even teams like the eagles and rams in this era would challenge conferance titles out of their era. 49erssteelersredskinspatriotscowboysraidersdolphinsgiantsbearsi think the 70s vikings were better then the 90s bills

 

[Cecil Lammey]

Now that it seems the Patriots Dynasty is over (and what an impressive run it was) where does it fit in the Super Bowl era Dynasties??

My list

1) Dallas- By far the greatest team, best o-line in history

2) Miami- Went 3yrs in a row and had Undefeated season

3) Patriots- Did this in the Salary Cap Age

4) 49ers- maybe #3, but look how expensive their team was

5) Steelers- Great team, but played in a weak time

6) Bills- Probably be #2 if they had won half of their apperences

The Steelers team of the '70's would've destroyed most teams on this list. The 49ers of the 80's would have presented the biggest problem. Played in a weak time? The '70's saw some of the fiercest battles on the gridiron. The hitting wasn't as outlawed as it is today and defenses had less rules constraints against them. That being said, it could've been the toughest time to play football. Dallas should rank 3rd on your list IMHO.

1) 49ers of the 80's

2) Steelers of the 70's

3) Cowboys of the 90's

4) Patriots of the 00's

It's commendable what the Pats have done in the salary cap era. The Packers from the 60's should be in on this list too.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Here's something I never really understood when doing these dynasty threads: how exactly are we supposed to compare these teams?I assume it's more than a simple statistical analysis, right? Because once you move past that (which has its own issues) it gets pretty dicey.The 2001 Pats were different than the 2003 Pats, who were different from the 2004 Pats. And do we even include the 2002 Pats? Is it an average of all four teams? Is it the best of all four teams?The 1992 Cowboys were a heck a lot different from the 1995 Cowboys. Deion Sanders never played for Jimmy Johnson. By my quick glance, the 1992 and 1993 Cowboys were essentially identical, but that doesn't help solve the problem. What are the "90s Cowboys"? An average of all four teams? The best of all four teams? How do we factor in their 1994 season?This was a lot easier before FA, when the core of the Steelers remained intact: Bradshaw, Harris, Bleier, Stallworth, Swann, Webster, Green, Greenwood, White, Lambert, Ham, Russell, Shell, Thomas, Wagner and Blount were there for EVERY YEAR from 74-79. The only notable departure was Glen Edwards after the '77 season.So the '74 Steelers were largely the same (in terms of personnell, not talent) as the '79 Steelers. But the same surely can't be said of the 90s Cowboys or the 00 Patriots.It's hard enough to compare the 2002 Bucs to the 1985 Bears. I don't even know where to begin when trying to compare the 00 Pats to the 80 49ers.

 

[airbornemedik]

thats why I said Super Bowl Era, if you want to go back further, Id argue the Browns as the Greatest, but that was a different time. Those who say Dallas played in a weak time are nuts! Yes the AFC was pretty thin, but The NFC was packed with talent, In there division alone. NYG and WSH had just won SB the previous two years. Not to Mention the 9ers. Some of the greatest talent played in this era!Maybe i was biast on the Steelers cause i hate TB, but i dont think they would beat the Texans, this era is to fast and strong. Thats playing by todays rules

 

[Cecil Lammey]

thats why I said Super Bowl Era, if you want to go back further, Id argue the Browns as the Greatest, but that was a different time.

Those who say Dallas played in a weak time are nuts! Yes the AFC was pretty thin, but The NFC was packed with talent, In there division alone. NYG and WSH had just won SB the previous two years. Not to Mention the 9ers. Some of the greatest talent played in this era!

Maybe i was biast on the Steelers cause i hate TB, but i dont think they would beat the Texans, this era is to fast and strong. Thats playing by todays rules

Please clarify. Are you saying the Steelers of the '70's wouldn't beat the Texans?

 

[nerangers]

Patriots still have four more years this decade... Based on that list, third is probably about right...

 

[moleculo]

Now that it seems the Patriots Dynasty is over (and what an impressive run it was) where does it fit in the Super Bowl era Dynasties??

My list

1) Dallas- By far the greatest team, best o-line in history

2) Miami- Went 3yrs in a row and had Undefeated season

3) Patriots- Did this in the Salary Cap Age

4) 49ers- maybe #3, but look how expensive their team was

5) Steelers- Great team, but played in a weak time

6) Bills- Probably be #2 if they had won half of their apperences

Out of curiousity, how many HOF'ers are from each dynasty?For recent dynasties, how many will there be? How many future HOF'ers are in the Patriots right now?