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E.Graham (1 Viewer)

Funny that, for a Florida team known for its passing offenses, it's the RBs that keep making noise in the pros.

 
I can't believe I talked myself into starting Chatman over him this week with his matchup. He will be starting for me the rest of the year for sure.

 
Earnest Graham-RB- Buccaneers Dec. 2 - 7:56 pm et

Earnest Graham rushed for 106 yards and a touchdown on 22 carries and caught seven passes for 37 yards in Week 13.

Graham isn't the big-play threat Cadillac Williams was, but there aren't many flaws in his game, which makes him hard to take off the field. He's a grinder who falls forward. Graham has now scored in four consecutive games and has a beautiful matchup at Houston upcoming in Week 14.

:lmao:

 
Earnest Graham-RB- Buccaneers Dec. 2 - 7:56 pm et Earnest Graham rushed for 106 yards and a touchdown on 22 carries and caught seven passes for 37 yards in Week 13.Graham isn't the big-play threat Cadillac Williams was, but there aren't many flaws in his game, which makes him hard to take off the field. He's a grinder who falls forward. Graham has now scored in four consecutive games and has a beautiful matchup at Houston upcoming in Week 14. :lmao:
and home against ATL week 15 @ SF week 16!
 
Michael Pittman-RB- Buccaneers Dec. 2 - 8:00 pm et

Michael Pittman caught two passes for six yards in Week 13.

He didn't carry the ball once and isn't a threat to Earnest Graham until proven otherwise. Few around the team believe Pittman is 100 percent, and even when or if he gets there, Graham is playing too well for Pittman to steal a big piece of the pie.

 
Michael Pittman-RB- Buccaneers Dec. 2 - 8:00 pm et Michael Pittman caught two passes for six yards in Week 13.He didn't carry the ball once and isn't a threat to Earnest Graham until proven otherwise. Few around the team believe Pittman is 100 percent, and even when or if he gets there, Graham is playing too well for Pittman to steal a big piece of the pie.
Pittman will be heavily involved in the passing game...no doubt.And Gruden loves having both in the backfield...giving him the option to hand to either or throw to either. Pittman is also exceptional at picking up blitzes.I would expect Pitt to hurt EG's value some...
 
Michael Pittman-RB- Buccaneers Dec. 2 - 8:00 pm et Michael Pittman caught two passes for six yards in Week 13.He didn't carry the ball once and isn't a threat to Earnest Graham until proven otherwise. Few around the team believe Pittman is 100 percent, and even when or if he gets there, Graham is playing too well for Pittman to steal a big piece of the pie.
Pittman will be heavily involved in the passing game...no doubt.And Gruden loves having both in the backfield...giving him the option to hand to either or throw to either. Pittman is also exceptional at picking up blitzes.I would expect Pitt to hurt EG's value some...
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If Pittman is 100% - I would agree that he would cut into EG's 3rd down production. However, this week Pittman had no carries and only 2 rec.

I really do not see that changing much over the next few weeks.

 
I'm not saying Pitt will make EG a #3 back. But I am saying Pitt will probably keep EG from being a top-flight #1.

Gruden loves Pittman.

 
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I'm not saying Pitt will make EG a #3 back. But I am saying Pitt will probably keep EG from being a top-flight #1.Gruden loves Pittman.
All I said is that Pittman when 100%, might cut into EG's playing time on 3rd down. EG onwers should not have to worry about thta since Pittman is no where near 100% right now
 
The last time Pittman was healthy, week 11, he posted the following:

10 carries, 44 yards

5 targets, 2 catches, 17 yards

Both backs got 4th qtr carries when TB was up big, to run out the clock.

I don't see why that would change.

 
gump said:
The last time Pittman was healthy, week 11, he posted the following:10 carries, 44 yards5 targets, 2 catches, 17 yardsBoth backs got 4th qtr carries when TB was up big, to run out the clock.I don't see why that would change.
What are you saying????? Week 11 he came back from injury fumbled 2 times and was inactive week 12. Are you saying Pittman is now healthy or even close to being healthy? I watched the entire game this week and saw Pittman in about 6 times. I think Pittman has a long ways to go b4 is healthy. When HEALTHY he would cut into EG's playing time.
 
gump said:
The last time Pittman was healthy, week 11, he posted the following:10 carries, 44 yards5 targets, 2 catches, 17 yardsBoth backs got 4th qtr carries when TB was up big, to run out the clock.I don't see why that would change.
What are you saying????? Week 11 he came back from injury fumbled 2 times and was inactive week 12. Are you saying Pittman is now healthy or even close to being healthy? I watched the entire game this week and saw Pittman in about 6 times. I think Pittman has a long ways to go b4 is healthy. When HEALTHY he would cut into EG's playing time.
Not arguing with you...just commenting on Pitt's role IF HEALTHY.He did play today though, after some thought he was out for the year. That's a good sign for Pitt...and a good sign for the Bucs.
 
gump said:
The last time Pittman was healthy, week 11, he posted the following:10 carries, 44 yards5 targets, 2 catches, 17 yardsBoth backs got 4th qtr carries when TB was up big, to run out the clock.I don't see why that would change.
What are you saying????? Week 11 he came back from injury fumbled 2 times and was inactive week 12. Are you saying Pittman is now healthy or even close to being healthy? I watched the entire game this week and saw Pittman in about 6 times. I think Pittman has a long ways to go b4 is healthy. When HEALTHY he would cut into EG's playing time.
Not arguing with you...just commenting on Pitt's role IF HEALTHY.He did play today though, after some thought he was out for the year. That's a good sign for Pitt...and a good sign for the Bucs.
Although Pitt has no fantasy value.
 
gump said:
The last time Pittman was healthy, week 11, he posted the following:10 carries, 44 yards5 targets, 2 catches, 17 yardsBoth backs got 4th qtr carries when TB was up big, to run out the clock.I don't see why that would change.
What are you saying????? Week 11 he came back from injury fumbled 2 times and was inactive week 12. Are you saying Pittman is now healthy or even close to being healthy? I watched the entire game this week and saw Pittman in about 6 times. I think Pittman has a long ways to go b4 is healthy. When HEALTHY he would cut into EG's playing time.
Not arguing with you...just commenting on Pitt's role IF HEALTHY.He did play today though, after some thought he was out for the year. That's a good sign for Pitt...and a good sign for the Bucs.
Although Pitt has no fantasy value.
For your league that ended when...this week? No he doesn't. For leagues who could use a guy who could get 10+ carries and 5+ targets against weak defenses like ATL, CAR, and SF...maybe.
 
gump said:
The last time Pittman was healthy, week 11, he posted the following:10 carries, 44 yards5 targets, 2 catches, 17 yardsBoth backs got 4th qtr carries when TB was up big, to run out the clock.I don't see why that would change.
What are you saying????? Week 11 he came back from injury fumbled 2 times and was inactive week 12. Are you saying Pittman is now healthy or even close to being healthy? I watched the entire game this week and saw Pittman in about 6 times. I think Pittman has a long ways to go b4 is healthy. When HEALTHY he would cut into EG's playing time.
Not arguing with you...just commenting on Pitt's role IF HEALTHY.He did play today though, after some thought he was out for the year. That's a good sign for Pitt...and a good sign for the Bucs.
Although Pitt has no fantasy value.
For your league that ended when...this week? No he doesn't. For leagues who could use a guy who could get 10+ carries and 5+ targets against weak defenses like ATL, CAR, and SF...maybe.
I take it you own pittman....and are desperate for this to be true,good luck with that.The only way pitt sees the field enough to matter fantasy wise is if E.G gets hurt...he`s 32 and playing hurt , i dont care if gruden likes him or not,he will not upset the apple cart and use E.G any less than he is right now.
 
gump said:
The last time Pittman was healthy, week 11, he posted the following:10 carries, 44 yards5 targets, 2 catches, 17 yardsBoth backs got 4th qtr carries when TB was up big, to run out the clock.I don't see why that would change.
What are you saying????? Week 11 he came back from injury fumbled 2 times and was inactive week 12. Are you saying Pittman is now healthy or even close to being healthy? I watched the entire game this week and saw Pittman in about 6 times. I think Pittman has a long ways to go b4 is healthy. When HEALTHY he would cut into EG's playing time.
Not arguing with you...just commenting on Pitt's role IF HEALTHY.He did play today though, after some thought he was out for the year. That's a good sign for Pitt...and a good sign for the Bucs.
Although Pitt has no fantasy value.
For your league that ended when...this week? No he doesn't. For leagues who could use a guy who could get 10+ carries and 5+ targets against weak defenses like ATL, CAR, and SF...maybe.
I take it you own pittman....and are desperate for this to be true,good luck with that.The only way pitt sees the field enough to matter fantasy wise is if E.G gets hurt...he`s 32 and playing hurt , i dont care if gruden likes him or not,he will not upset the apple cart and use E.G any less than he is right now.
I appreciate your opinion..but I'll have to see something different from Gruden with Pittman on the field to think otherwise. We haven't seen that yet.When healthy, Pittman starts in the same backfield as Graham. He's not there to block.
 
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gump said:
The last time Pittman was healthy, week 11, he posted the following:10 carries, 44 yards5 targets, 2 catches, 17 yardsBoth backs got 4th qtr carries when TB was up big, to run out the clock.I don't see why that would change.
What are you saying????? Week 11 he came back from injury fumbled 2 times and was inactive week 12. Are you saying Pittman is now healthy or even close to being healthy? I watched the entire game this week and saw Pittman in about 6 times. I think Pittman has a long ways to go b4 is healthy. When HEALTHY he would cut into EG's playing time.
Not arguing with you...just commenting on Pitt's role IF HEALTHY.He did play today though, after some thought he was out for the year. That's a good sign for Pitt...and a good sign for the Bucs.
Although Pitt has no fantasy value.
For your league that ended when...this week? No he doesn't. For leagues who could use a guy who could get 10+ carries and 5+ targets against weak defenses like ATL, CAR, and SF...maybe.
I take it you own pittman....and are desperate for this to be true,good luck with that.The only way pitt sees the field enough to matter fantasy wise is if E.G gets hurt...he`s 32 and playing hurt , i dont care if gruden likes him or not,he will not upset the apple cart and use E.G any less than he is right now.
Dude, there's no breaking gump from his Pittman mancrush. It's a strong, blinding bond.
 
Graham scores on 25-yard scamper

Earnest Graham, RB TB

News: Bucs RB Earnest Graham managed his third 100-yard rushing performance in his last four games during a Week 13 win against the Saints. Graham rushed for 106 yards on 22 carries. He scored on a 25-yard touchdown run in the third quarter. He also had seven receptions for 37 yards.

Analysis: The Bucs thought their season might be lost after losing Cadillac Williams to a knee injury for the season and then Michael Pittman to an ankle injury for a few games. Their world has been turned upside down thanks to Graham. He has rushed for more than 90 yards in four of his last six games and has become the workhorse of the offense. Consider Graham a solid No. 1 Fantasy RB for Week 14 against the Texans.

 
Graham scores on 25-yard scamper Earnest Graham, RB TBNews: Bucs RB Earnest Graham managed his third 100-yard rushing performance in his last four games during a Week 13 win against the Saints. Graham rushed for 106 yards on 22 carries. He scored on a 25-yard touchdown run in the third quarter. He also had seven receptions for 37 yards.Analysis: The Bucs thought their season might be lost after losing Cadillac Williams to a knee injury for the season and then Michael Pittman to an ankle injury for a few games. Their world has been turned upside down thanks to Graham. He has rushed for more than 90 yards in four of his last six games and has become the workhorse of the offense. Consider Graham a solid No. 1 Fantasy RB for Week 14 against the Texans.
and that means Pittman is not a factor bro.
 
Graham scores on 25-yard scamper Earnest Graham, RB TBNews: Bucs RB Earnest Graham managed his third 100-yard rushing performance in his last four games during a Week 13 win against the Saints. Graham rushed for 106 yards on 22 carries. He scored on a 25-yard touchdown run in the third quarter. He also had seven receptions for 37 yards.Analysis: The Bucs thought their season might be lost after losing Cadillac Williams to a knee injury for the season and then Michael Pittman to an ankle injury for a few games. Their world has been turned upside down thanks to Graham. He has rushed for more than 90 yards in four of his last six games and has become the workhorse of the offense. Consider Graham a solid No. 1 Fantasy RB for Week 14 against the Texans.
and that means Pittman is not a factor bro.
at least someone else has some common sense :shrug:
 
Since when did Cadillac have "big play ability"? :rolleyes:
Since his very first NFL game? He had 26 carries for 77 yards (2.96 ypc) until his last carry of the game... which he broke for 71 yards. 71 yards still counts as a big play, right?
Yup. And it if you count a big play as 40+ yards, that was first, last and ONLY "big play" in his 3 year NFL career (including pass plays). His next longest play in his rookie year was 31 yards. In his 2nd year, he had 38 and 34 yarders, but nothing else. In his 3rd year, before he got injured, he had nothing over 20. Seems to me if you look at that record compared to other starters around the league, I wouldn't consider "big play ability" as his forte.
 
Since when did Cadillac have "big play ability"? :football:
Since his very first NFL game? He had 26 carries for 77 yards (2.96 ypc) until his last carry of the game... which he broke for 71 yards. 71 yards still counts as a big play, right?
Yup. And it if you count a big play as 40+ yards, that was first, last and ONLY "big play" in his 3 year NFL career (including pass plays). His next longest play in his rookie year was 31 yards. In his 2nd year, he had 38 and 34 yarders, but nothing else. In his 3rd year, before he got injured, he had nothing over 20. Seems to me if you look at that record compared to other starters around the league, I wouldn't consider "big play ability" as his forte.
You're getting off on an absolutely pointless tangent.He showed the ability to break big plays, perhaps it's not his "forte" but the point of the statement was never that Williams was a big play specialist. He was inconsistent and constantly knicked up. Graham has been consistent for an 8-4 team, he's been a big part of the success.
 
Graham has been absolute gold for me. With Travis Henry completely disappearing after the first couple weeks of the season and then ADP getting hurt, Graham has carried my RB corp. over the past several weeks.

 
Since when did Cadillac have "big play ability"? :mellow:
Since his very first NFL game? He had 26 carries for 77 yards (2.96 ypc) until his last carry of the game... which he broke for 71 yards. 71 yards still counts as a big play, right?
Yup. And it if you count a big play as 40+ yards, that was first, last and ONLY "big play" in his 3 year NFL career (including pass plays). His next longest play in his rookie year was 31 yards. In his 2nd year, he had 38 and 34 yarders, but nothing else. In his 3rd year, before he got injured, he had nothing over 20. Seems to me if you look at that record compared to other starters around the league, I wouldn't consider "big play ability" as his forte.
You're getting off on an absolutely pointless tangent.He showed the ability to break big plays, perhaps it's not his "forte" but the point of the statement was never that Williams was a big play specialist. He was inconsistent and constantly knicked up. Graham has been consistent for an 8-4 team, he's been a big part of the success.
Tangent yes, pointless no. The point is that Caddy's "big play" ability is largely a myth in the NFL. Aside from ONE play, Graham has shown just as much "big play" ability as Caddy ever has. Which means basically that Graham has shown everything Caddy ever has and then some (receiving, short yardage skills etc.).I own Caddy in 2 of my 3 dynasty leagues. I'd LOVE to believe he has special talent that has just been hidden by injuries and poor luck. But it seems to me after watching him closely for a couple of years that he just doesn't have the advertised talent. In my eyes, he's an average (not BAD, but average), injury-prone NFL RB with some holes in his game.That said, I don't think Graham is a stud either. I do think he should be given a chance to start next year because of his solid play, but I wouldn't be surprised if Tampa brought in another back in the draft or free agency.
 
Graham has saved my season. In a league where we can start up to 4 RB's, i came into the year with SA, Willis, Caddy and DeAngelo. I also Kept Steve Smith and Lee Evans over Braylon Edwards. Graham and Favre have kept me in the playoffs

 
Dude, there's no breaking gump from his Pittman mancrush. It's a strong, blinding bond.
:shrug: No...I'm just looking at it from a football perspective. The Bucs need Pittman. He helps the passing offense. He picks up blitzes. And he adds a dimension to the running game (speed).I've watched every play this season...and IMO the Bucs are a better team with Pittman in the backfield with Graham. Although I will say they looked great yesterday without much input from Pitt....tempered however since it's against the pathetic Saints defense.I don't think Pittman is worth much in fantasy...I dropped him a few weeks ago personally. But I do think he will cut in to Graham's production. The Bucs need that to play their best.
 
Hard decisions to make for next week.

Steven Jackson vs. CIN

Adrian Peterson vs. SF

Earnest Graham vs. HOU

Love Graham but I don't know!

 
Bucs keep winning with battering ram Graham

By PFW staff

Dec. 3, 2007

The Buccaneers won their fourth straight game Sunday, defeating the Saints, 27-23. Few outcomes this season have had a bigger meaning for the two teams than the one in the Superdome — Tampa Bay improved to 8-4 and leads the NFC South by three games over New Orleans and Carolina, who are tied at 5-7. With four games to go, the Bucs probably only need one more victory to guarantee themselves a spot in the postseason. Only Houston, Atlanta, San Francisco, and Carolina — who all have records below .500 — remain on the schedule for Jon Gruden’s crew.

The PFW spin

The star of the Buccaneers’ show continues to fly under the radar.

Gruden started Luke McCown at quarterback with Jeff Garcia relegated to clipboard duty on the sideline with a lower-back injury. McCown performed extremely well given the circumstances — he hadn’t started a game since 2004 — and connected on 29-of-37 passes for 313 yards and two touchdowns, including the game-winner on a toss to TE Jerramy Stevens with 14 seconds left in the fourth quarter.

The 26-year-old signalcaller stole most of the headlines after the victory, and he deserves praise. This win was huge, but it was, after all, just one game. Bucs RB Earnest Graham, however, has been the force driving the offense for several weeks now, and he took much of the pressure off the inexperienced McCown Sunday.

Graham rushed 22 times for 106 yards and a touchdown and caught seven passes for 37 yards, as well. He consistently powered forward for three-, four-, and five-yard gains to set McCown up in 2nd- and 3rd-and-short situations. In the second half, the Bucs began all but one possession by handing off to Graham.

A look at the team’s statistics since Graham took over as the starter in Week Six suggests the Bucs' fortunes often depend on his performance.

The 5-9, 225 pound running back has rushed for 75 or more yards in each of the past four games (three times going over the 100-yard mark) and has scored in every one of those contests. Tampa Bay is 6-2 when he has 13 or more carries and is 5-1 when he rushes for 75 yards or more.

In the second half Sunday, McCown threw an interception that was returned for a touchdown, putting the Saints ahead, 21-20. It looked like an error that would cost Tampa Bay the game, and inject New Orleans back into the discussion for an NFC South title. He later was sacked in the endzone by Saints DE Will Smith for a safety that made it 23-20. Those two miscues served as contrasts to the steady, reliable Graham.

Since taking over the starting job, Graham has rushed 130 times and caught 32 passes — and he hasn’t fumbled once.

Our fantasy take

Graham’s production won’t slow down anytime soon, and he figures to be a big part of the Bucs’ offense down the stretch. Tampa Bay should be able to build up leads against lesser competition in the final four games of the season — Graham will receive a lot of carries with the team in clock-management mode.

:rolleyes:

 
Hard decisions to make for next week.Steven Jackson vs. CINAdrian Peterson vs. SFEarnest Graham vs. HOULove Graham but I don't know!
You must have my team! I am already agonizing over SJax Vs. Graham (sat ADP for Graham this week due to the injury and with Graham as an alternative it didn't make any sense to take the risk with ADP) This week though... :own3d: I guess it's a good problem to have though.
 
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Since when did Cadillac have "big play ability"? :thumbup:
Since his very first NFL game? He had 26 carries for 77 yards (2.96 ypc) until his last carry of the game... which he broke for 71 yards. 71 yards still counts as a big play, right?
Yup. And it if you count a big play as 40+ yards, that was first, last and ONLY "big play" in his 3 year NFL career (including pass plays). His next longest play in his rookie year was 31 yards. In his 2nd year, he had 38 and 34 yarders, but nothing else. In his 3rd year, before he got injured, he had nothing over 20. Seems to me if you look at that record compared to other starters around the league, I wouldn't consider "big play ability" as his forte.
You're getting off on an absolutely pointless tangent.He showed the ability to break big plays, perhaps it's not his "forte" but the point of the statement was never that Williams was a big play specialist. He was inconsistent and constantly knicked up. Graham has been consistent for an 8-4 team, he's been a big part of the success.
Tangent yes, pointless no. The point is that Caddy's "big play" ability is largely a myth in the NFL. Aside from ONE play, Graham has shown just as much "big play" ability as Caddy ever has. Which means basically that Graham has shown everything Caddy ever has and then some (receiving, short yardage skills etc.).I own Caddy in 2 of my 3 dynasty leagues. I'd LOVE to believe he has special talent that has just been hidden by injuries and poor luck. But it seems to me after watching him closely for a couple of years that he just doesn't have the advertised talent. In my eyes, he's an average (not BAD, but average), injury-prone NFL RB with some holes in his game.That said, I don't think Graham is a stud either. I do think he should be given a chance to start next year because of his solid play, but I wouldn't be surprised if Tampa brought in another back in the draft or free agency.
I heard at one point, Cadillac could be done after the injury he had. I never heard a follow up, but if he comes back, he won't be the same, and even if, I'd say it's Graham's to lose going forward.
 
Dude, there's no breaking gump from his Pittman mancrush. It's a strong, blinding bond.
:shrug: No...I'm just looking at it from a football perspective. The Bucs need Pittman. He helps the passing offense. He picks up blitzes. And he adds a dimension to the running game (speed).
:cry: I'm just giving you a hard time.
 
Graham is hard to bench, especially in PPR leagues. He has shown he can carry the load, even if he isn't flashy doing it. He will be just as hard for Gruden to bench next year if Caddy is healthy.

 

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