Eagles are going to run the table this year (1 Viewer)

[gradin123]

I feel strongly right now that the Eagles are going to run the table this year much like the Colts did in 2006.

Right now I think they have the best balance on offense and defense in the NFL. McNabb is on the top of his game and they are smartly using Buckhlater more on power runs.

Most importantly, their defense is dominate right now though!

They were very lucky to get in but now that they are there I think they will run the table. This is the year IMO that McNabb will get his playoff monkey off his back just like Manning did in 2006.

 

[bcr8f]

I like the Eagles and Baltimore.

 

[Die]

I think the Eagles are a very strong team. They have dominated the Giants, Steelers, Falcons and Cowboys this season. The knock on them is they aren't consistent. They crush a couple teams and mix in a lousy loss to the Redskins. If they stay focused, they should win this whole thing. You just don't know which Eagles team will show up. Could lay an egg at any time.

 

[Chase Stuart]

They remind me more of the '08 Chargers.

 

[Limp Ditka]

They remind me more of the '08 Chargers.

They remind me of the 2008 Falcons, Colts and Dolphins

 

[ChrisCooleyFan]

I like there week 16 team

 

[JuniorNB]

I like there week 16 team

1. It's 'Their'.2. If they win the Super Bowl, you can always tell your grandkids that the Redskins beat the world champs twice, one year.

 

[fred_1_15301]

I like there week 16 team

1. It's 'Their'.2. If they win the Super Bowl, you can always tell your grandkids that the Redskins beat the world champs twice, one year.

Why wouldn't he just tell his grandkids about the Redskins superbowl wins. You know the one that has eluded the Eagles for all these years?

 

[Mr Anonymous]

They remind me alot of the '47 Browns. The similarities are eerie.

 

[Slider]

They look eerily similar to the 08 Eagles.

 

[PatrickT]

Too inconsistent, IMO. Could get lucky, but I don't think they get past the gmen.

 

[Manster]

I feel strongly right now that the Eagles are going to run the table this year much like the Colts did in 2006.Right now I think they have the best balance on offense and defense in the NFL. McNabb is on the top of his game and they are smartly using Buckhlater more on power runs.Most importantly, their defense is dominate right now though!They were very lucky to get in but now that they are there I think they will run the table. This is the year IMO that McNabb will get his playoff monkey off his back just like Manning did in 2006.

wow, you are high, and delusional. they have to go on the road against a rested giants team. they will lose.and further more, they had a hard time moving the ball on minny. they had a few key plays. good win for the eagles, but it was the vikings and tarvaris jackson they just beat.

 

[BusterTBronco]

The iggles are no joke. They finished the year as the #1 ranked team in Football Outsiders DVOA rankings.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-rati...08-dvoa-ratings

 

[gradin123]

I feel strongly right now that the Eagles are going to run the table this year much like the Colts did in 2006.Right now I think they have the best balance on offense and defense in the NFL. McNabb is on the top of his game and they are smartly using Buckhlater more on power runs.Most importantly, their defense is dominate right now though!They were very lucky to get in but now that they are there I think they will run the table. This is the year IMO that McNabb will get his playoff monkey off his back just like Manning did in 2006.

wow, you are high, and delusional. they have to go on the road against a rested giants team. they will lose.

Well they went into the Meadowlands in Week 14 and won. The Giants sputtered down the stretch somewhat. This will be a tough test for both teams but I just think the Eagles are playing better right now than the Giants. Carolina is a very good offensive team but they are vulnerable on defense.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

I like there week 16 team

1. It's 'Their'.2. If they win the Super Bowl, you can always tell your grandkids that the Redskins beat the world champs twice, one year.

Why wouldn't he just tell his grandkids about the Redskins superbowl wins. You know the one that has eluded the Eagles for all these years?

oof.

 

[houndirish]

I like there week 16 team

1. It's 'Their'.2. If they win the Super Bowl, you can always tell your grandkids that the Redskins beat the world champs twice, one year.

Why wouldn't he just tell his grandkids about the Redskins superbowl wins. You know the one that has eluded the Eagles for all these years?

Wow ... that was the sound of an uppercut hitting a chin. Well played.

 

[renesauz]

Eagles can beat anyone.

They can also lose to anyone.

It's unlikely they run off three more quality games in a row....but this life-long Eagles fan will be rooting for them to!!

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Eagles can beat anyone.They can also lose to anyone.It's unlikely they run off three more quality games in a row....but this life-long Eagles fan will be rooting for them to!!

Yup, they can beat anyone in the playoffs right now, but they can also get run by any of them, except Arizona, too.

 

[JuniorNB]

I like there week 16 team

1. It's 'Their'.2. If they win the Super Bowl, you can always tell your grandkids that the Redskins beat the world champs twice, one year.

Why wouldn't he just tell his grandkids about the Redskins superbowl wins. You know the one that has eluded the Eagles for all these years?

Wow ... that was the sound of an uppercut hitting a chin. Well played.

That was pretty good. I have to admit.

 

[Chase Stuart]

The Eagles are legit but I just don't think that offense is good enough. They're not very good at passing and they're not very good at running. And they're going to face an awesome defense in the Super Bowl, if they get there. I think they'd be the best matchup of the Big3 in the NFC for any of the Big3 in the AFC.

Against the Giants and Panthers, though, they could pound the running game and win those games. The Panthers and Giants both have pretty good passing games, awesome running games, and pretty good pass defenses. Each team only has one weakness, rush D. That's Philly's best chance, but I don't think their running game is good enough to carry them on the road against both of those guys. If they had the Giants or Panthers running game, sure, but Philly's running game is not in that league.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

The Eagles are legit but I just don't think that offense is good enough. They're not very good at passing and they're not very good at running. And they're going to face an awesome defense in the Super Bowl, if they get there. I think they'd be the best matchup of the Big3 in the NFC for any of the Big3 in the AFC.

Against the Giants and Panthers, though, they could pound the running game and win those games. The Panthers and Giants both have pretty good passing games, awesome running games, and pretty good pass defenses. Each team only has one weakness, rush D. That's Philly's best chance, but I don't think their running game is good enough to carry them on the road against both of those guys. If they had the Giants or Panthers running game, sure, but Philly's running game is not in that league.

What?The same offense who put up 48 on the Cardinals?

The same offense who put up 44 on Dallas, and then throttled back?

New Orleans won the league scoring title going away with 463 points.

San Diego is next with 439 - they're still in the playoffs.

3A. Giants, 427 - still in it.

3B. Cardinals, 427 - still in it.

5. Green Bay, 419.

6. Eagles, 416 - still in it.

So of the teams still in it, they are third and averaged just less than half a point less.

Saying their offense is lacking and "just not good enough" is just not right at all.

 

[Moe Green]

The same offense who put up 44 on Dallas, and then throttled back?

Although collectively, Philly gave Dallas a good throttling that game, the Eagles offense didn't "put up 44 on Dallas."

 

[ajopiela]

Eagles Baltimore is what i predicted in my playoff leagues....hopefully that comes true.

 

[Eminence]

Eagles stall against Giants...

 

[Chase Stuart]

The Eagles are legit but I just don't think that offense is good enough. They're not very good at passing and they're not very good at running. And they're going to face an awesome defense in the Super Bowl, if they get there. I think they'd be the best matchup of the Big3 in the NFC for any of the Big3 in the AFC.

Against the Giants and Panthers, though, they could pound the running game and win those games. The Panthers and Giants both have pretty good passing games, awesome running games, and pretty good pass defenses. Each team only has one weakness, rush D. That's Philly's best chance, but I don't think their running game is good enough to carry them on the road against both of those guys. If they had the Giants or Panthers running game, sure, but Philly's running game is not in that league.

What?The same offense who put up 48 on the Cardinals?

The same offense who put up 44 on Dallas, and then throttled back?

New Orleans won the league scoring title going away with 463 points.

San Diego is next with 439 - they're still in the playoffs.

3A. Giants, 427 - still in it.

3B. Cardinals, 427 - still in it.

5. Green Bay, 419.

6. Eagles, 416 - still in it.

So of the teams still in it, they are third and averaged just less than half a point less.

Saying their offense is lacking and "just not good enough" is just not right at all.

I didn't say the Eagles didn't score a bunch of points in the regular season, I said the Eagles offense isn't very good. Do you think the Eagles are a top ten rushing team? I don't. Do you think they're a top ten passing team? I don't (I know they passed a bunch of times this year, but that doesn't make them a good passing team). When you're not very good at running or very good at passing, how can you have a very good offense?

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

The Eagles are legit but I just don't think that offense is good enough. They're not very good at passing and they're not very good at running. And they're going to face an awesome defense in the Super Bowl, if they get there. I think they'd be the best matchup of the Big3 in the NFC for any of the Big3 in the AFC.

Against the Giants and Panthers, though, they could pound the running game and win those games. The Panthers and Giants both have pretty good passing games, awesome running games, and pretty good pass defenses. Each team only has one weakness, rush D. That's Philly's best chance, but I don't think their running game is good enough to carry them on the road against both of those guys. If they had the Giants or Panthers running game, sure, but Philly's running game is not in that league.

What?The same offense who put up 48 on the Cardinals?

The same offense who put up 44 on Dallas, and then throttled back?

New Orleans won the league scoring title going away with 463 points.

San Diego is next with 439 - they're still in the playoffs.

3A. Giants, 427 - still in it.

3B. Cardinals, 427 - still in it.

5. Green Bay, 419.

6. Eagles, 416 - still in it.

So of the teams still in it, they are third and averaged just less than half a point less.

Saying their offense is lacking and "just not good enough" is just not right at all.

I didn't say the Eagles didn't score a bunch of points in the regular season, I said the Eagles offense isn't very good. Do you think the Eagles are a top ten rushing team? I don't. Do you think they're a top ten passing team? I don't (I know they passed a bunch of times this year, but that doesn't make them a good passing team). When you're not very good at running or very good at passing, how can you have a very good offense?

#6 Passing offense. Plenty of points.

When they are "ON", they're hard to stop.

Anything can happen any given Sunday, but if the Eagles are playing their best they can beat anyone.

 

[ScottyFargo]

The Eagles offense isn't very good is right.

 

[Chase Stuart]

The Eagles are legit but I just don't think that offense is good enough. They're not very good at passing and they're not very good at running. And they're going to face an awesome defense in the Super Bowl, if they get there. I think they'd be the best matchup of the Big3 in the NFC for any of the Big3 in the AFC.

Against the Giants and Panthers, though, they could pound the running game and win those games. The Panthers and Giants both have pretty good passing games, awesome running games, and pretty good pass defenses. Each team only has one weakness, rush D. That's Philly's best chance, but I don't think their running game is good enough to carry them on the road against both of those guys. If they had the Giants or Panthers running game, sure, but Philly's running game is not in that league.

What?The same offense who put up 48 on the Cardinals?

The same offense who put up 44 on Dallas, and then throttled back?

New Orleans won the league scoring title going away with 463 points.

San Diego is next with 439 - they're still in the playoffs.

3A. Giants, 427 - still in it.

3B. Cardinals, 427 - still in it.

5. Green Bay, 419.

6. Eagles, 416 - still in it.

So of the teams still in it, they are third and averaged just less than half a point less.

Saying their offense is lacking and "just not good enough" is just not right at all.

I didn't say the Eagles didn't score a bunch of points in the regular season, I said the Eagles offense isn't very good. Do you think the Eagles are a top ten rushing team? I don't. Do you think they're a top ten passing team? I don't (I know they passed a bunch of times this year, but that doesn't make them a good passing team). When you're not very good at running or very good at passing, how can you have a very good offense?

#6 Passing offense. Plenty of points.

When they are "ON", they're hard to stop.

Anything can happen any given Sunday, but if the Eagles are playing their best they can beat anyone.

#6 passing offense? Not in my opinion. I don't think most people think that way, either, despite ranking that way in passing yards. Of course, Vinny Testaverde is a top 10 Qb of all time if we're just ranking passing by passing yards. Let's dig a little deeper:4th in Attempts

6th in Completions

6th in Yards

T-8th in TDs

T-11th in INTs

15th in adjusted net yards per pass attempt

16th in QB Rating

25th in Sack Yards Lost

26th in Sacks

San Diego Chargers

New Orleans Saints

Arizona Cardinals

Miami Dolphins

Indianapolis Colts

Atlanta Falcons

Denver Broncos

Green Bay Packers

Carolina Panthers

Houston Texans

New York Giants

New England Patriots

Dallas Cowboys

Those are thirteen passing games that were all more effective than the Eagles passing game this year. The Eagles passing game is very average, but the Eagles pass a ton because they don't exactly have an elite rushing offense, either.

 

[madviking10]

Eagles - Childress running the opposite team ??? THIRTY point loss next week. Book it !!

 

[flapgreen]

Eagles - Childress running the opposite team ??? THIRTY point loss next week. Book it !!

damn. u must be wasted.

 

[gonzobill5]

I feel strongly right now that the Eagles are going to run the table this year much like the Colts did in 2006.

Right now I think they have the best balance on offense and defense in the NFL. McNabb is on the top of his game and they are smartly using Buckhlater more on power runs.

Most importantly, their defense is dominate right now though!

They were very lucky to get in but now that they are there I think they will run the table. This is the year IMO that McNabb will get his playoff monkey off his back just like Manning did in 2006.

wha?

 

[gradin123]

Those are thirteen passing games that were all more effective than the Eagles passing game this year. The Eagles passing game is very average, but the Eagles pass a ton because they don't exactly have an elite rushing offense, either.

I'd say the Eagles passing game is inconsistent following the lead of their QB. But right now McNabb is playing loose. He has nothing to lose. I think in retrospect that benching was the best thing that could have happened to him.It put a chip on his shoulder and removed a lot of the pressure from him at the same time. Since that benching he has played very well and more importantly he has been consistent.One of the reasons I think the Eagles are going to run the table is for that reason. I think McNabb is playing well right now and unlike in playoffs past he won't throw out a stinker this year.After the benching the Eagles have been 5-1 and beat some good teams in that stretch.

 

[gradin123]

I feel strongly right now that the Eagles are going to run the table this year much like the Colts did in 2006.

Right now I think they have the best balance on offense and defense in the NFL. McNabb is on the top of his game and they are smartly using Buckhlater more on power runs.

Most importantly, their defense is dominate right now though!

They were very lucky to get in but now that they are there I think they will run the table. This is the year IMO that McNabb will get his playoff monkey off his back just like Manning did in 2006.

wha?

When healthy the Eagles have been using Buckhalter a lot more down the stretch. He was very effective on a couple of runs early in the game but wasn't used again as RB after that. The reason for that was Fullback Dan Klecko suffered a shoulder contusion and left the game so Buckhalter spent much of the second half lining up as a fullback.

 

[cstu]

The Eagles are legit but I just don't think that offense is good enough. They're not very good at passing and they're not very good at running. And they're going to face an awesome defense in the Super Bowl, if they get there. I think they'd be the best matchup of the Big3 in the NFC for any of the Big3 in the AFC.

Against the Giants and Panthers, though, they could pound the running game and win those games. The Panthers and Giants both have pretty good passing games, awesome running games, and pretty good pass defenses. Each team only has one weakness, rush D. That's Philly's best chance, but I don't think their running game is good enough to carry them on the road against both of those guys. If they had the Giants or Panthers running game, sure, but Philly's running game is not in that league.

The Chargers defense isn't THAT good.

 

[gonzobill5]

I feel strongly right now that the Eagles are going to run the table this year much like the Colts did in 2006.

Right now I think they have the best balance on offense and defense in the NFL. McNabb is on the top of his game and they are smartly using Buckhlater more on power runs.

Most importantly, their defense is dominate right now though!

They were very lucky to get in but now that they are there I think they will run the table. This is the year IMO that McNabb will get his playoff monkey off his back just like Manning did in 2006.

wha?

When healthy the Eagles have been using Buckhalter a lot more down the stretch. He was very effective on a couple of runs early in the game but wasn't used again as RB after that. The reason for that was Fullback Dan Klecko suffered a shoulder contusion and left the game so Buckhalter spent much of the second half lining up as a fullback.

Maybe I'm nitpicking, but they ran Buck twice in this game. Once for no gain and once off tackle where he made a great cut for a 27 yard gain. Then he disappeared like he has in just about every game this year. By saying they've utilized him more down the stretch makes it sound like they've incorporated him more in the game plan, and they really haven't. He got 10 carries in the dallas game, but 9 of those came after the birds were up 27-3. He is a more decisive runner than Westy right now (he looks faster and harder to bring down too), and they NEED to use him more. Reid got a lot of credit in this game for sticking with an ineffective run game. If Westbrook doesn't take that screen pass to the house, we're singing a completely different tune. I agree that the birds can run the table because no one in the NFC scares me all that much. They may prove me wrong, but I just don't think the Giants present the same matchup problems for the Eagles without Plaxico. In the first game, Jacobs got all the cred, but the Eagles gave safety help on Plax allowing Jacobs to run all over them for fear of the big play. Not sure that happens this time around.

 

[Native]

Man that would be a great story. Im rooting for McNabb right now.

 

[Die]

The Eagles are legit but I just don't think that offense is good enough. They're not very good at passing and they're not very good at running. And they're going to face an awesome defense in the Super Bowl, if they get there. I think they'd be the best matchup of the Big3 in the NFC for any of the Big3 in the AFC.

Against the Giants and Panthers, though, they could pound the running game and win those games. The Panthers and Giants both have pretty good passing games, awesome running games, and pretty good pass defenses. Each team only has one weakness, rush D. That's Philly's best chance, but I don't think their running game is good enough to carry them on the road against both of those guys. If they had the Giants or Panthers running game, sure, but Philly's running game is not in that league.

What?The same offense who put up 48 on the Cardinals?

The same offense who put up 44 on Dallas, and then throttled back?

New Orleans won the league scoring title going away with 463 points.

San Diego is next with 439 - they're still in the playoffs.

3A. Giants, 427 - still in it.

3B. Cardinals, 427 - still in it.

5. Green Bay, 419.

6. Eagles, 416 - still in it.

So of the teams still in it, they are third and averaged just less than half a point less.

Saying their offense is lacking and "just not good enough" is just not right at all.

I didn't say the Eagles didn't score a bunch of points in the regular season, I said the Eagles offense isn't very good. Do you think the Eagles are a top ten rushing team? I don't. Do you think they're a top ten passing team? I don't (I know they passed a bunch of times this year, but that doesn't make them a good passing team). When you're not very good at running or very good at passing, how can you have a very good offense?

#6 Passing offense. Plenty of points.

When they are "ON", they're hard to stop.

Anything can happen any given Sunday, but if the Eagles are playing their best they can beat anyone.

#6 passing offense? Not in my opinion. I don't think most people think that way, either, despite ranking that way in passing yards. Of course, Vinny Testaverde is a top 10 Qb of all time if we're just ranking passing by passing yards. Let's dig a little deeper:4th in Attempts

6th in Completions

6th in Yards

T-8th in TDs

T-11th in INTs

15th in adjusted net yards per pass attempt

16th in QB Rating

25th in Sack Yards Lost

26th in Sacks

San Diego Chargers

New Orleans Saints

Arizona Cardinals

Miami Dolphins

Indianapolis Colts

Atlanta Falcons

Denver Broncos

Green Bay Packers

Carolina Panthers

Houston Texans

New York Giants

New England Patriots

Dallas Cowboys

Those are thirteen passing games that were all more effective than the Eagles passing game this year. The Eagles passing game is very average, but the Eagles pass a ton because they don't exactly have an elite rushing offense, either.

Why is adjusted net yards per pass attempt the definitive measure to you? Wouldn't it be possible that some passing offenses would net fewer yards per attempt by design? I mean, I've always been taught that there are competing philosophies when it comes to passing - some prefer to march slow and steady down the field while minimizing mistakes, and others prefer to be more aggressive and take chances. I wouldn't expect the two philosophies to grade out equally in net yards per attempt, but that doesn't mean one pass offense is better than the other.

 

[Jake22]

I think the Eagles are a very strong team. They have dominated the Giants, Steelers, Falcons and Cowboys this season.

The Steeler game was 10-6 midway through the 4th quarter (15-6 final), hardly dominating.

Despite the 10 sacks pitt gave up that day they could've easily stole that game in the 4th quarter, that was THE WORST game for pitts o-line all season and philly struggled to put it out of reach untill late in that game.

 

[Die]

I think the Eagles are a very strong team. They have dominated the Giants, Steelers, Falcons and Cowboys this season.

The Steeler game was 10-6 midway through the 4th quarter (15-6 final), hardly dominating.Despite the 10 sacks pitt gave up that day they could've easily stole that game in the 4th quarter, that was THE WORST game for pitts o-line all season and philly struggled to put it out of reach untill late in that game.

There was no way the Steelers were going to win that game the way they were teeing off on Roethlisberger. It may have been 15-6, but they dominated them. There was no way they were going to get the two scores they needed.

 

[Jake22]

Eagles Baltimore is what i predicted in my playoff leagues....hopefully that comes true.

If that actually happens that broadcast of the SB would have to be the lowest viewer rating in a LONG time...

 

[JuniorNB]

Eagles - Childress running the opposite team ??? THIRTY point loss next week. Book it !!

To me, the only thing better than kicking a team's ### is watching their fans whine and cry and become bitter and generally act like fourth graders. Whatever happened to 'good game. good luck next week' ?

 

[renesauz]

Eagles Baltimore is what i predicted in my playoff leagues....hopefully that comes true.

If that actually happens that broadcast of the SB would have to be the lowest viewer rating in a LONG time...

Philly seems to have one of the bigger fan bases....look no further then the team threads in FBG. Baseball was different becasue the Marlins fan base is virtually non-existant, and well.....a lot of people stopped watching baseball years ago.Simply put...I strongly disagree.

 

[SuperJohn96]

They remind me of the 2149 Detroit Lions.

 

[Chase Stuart]

The Eagles are legit but I just don't think that offense is good enough. They're not very good at passing and they're not very good at running. And they're going to face an awesome defense in the Super Bowl, if they get there. I think they'd be the best matchup of the Big3 in the NFC for any of the Big3 in the AFC.

Against the Giants and Panthers, though, they could pound the running game and win those games. The Panthers and Giants both have pretty good passing games, awesome running games, and pretty good pass defenses. Each team only has one weakness, rush D. That's Philly's best chance, but I don't think their running game is good enough to carry them on the road against both of those guys. If they had the Giants or Panthers running game, sure, but Philly's running game is not in that league.

What?The same offense who put up 48 on the Cardinals?

The same offense who put up 44 on Dallas, and then throttled back?

New Orleans won the league scoring title going away with 463 points.

San Diego is next with 439 - they're still in the playoffs.

3A. Giants, 427 - still in it.

3B. Cardinals, 427 - still in it.

5. Green Bay, 419.

6. Eagles, 416 - still in it.

So of the teams still in it, they are third and averaged just less than half a point less.

Saying their offense is lacking and "just not good enough" is just not right at all.

I didn't say the Eagles didn't score a bunch of points in the regular season, I said the Eagles offense isn't very good. Do you think the Eagles are a top ten rushing team? I don't. Do you think they're a top ten passing team? I don't (I know they passed a bunch of times this year, but that doesn't make them a good passing team). When you're not very good at running or very good at passing, how can you have a very good offense?

#6 Passing offense. Plenty of points.

When they are "ON", they're hard to stop.

Anything can happen any given Sunday, but if the Eagles are playing their best they can beat anyone.

#6 passing offense? Not in my opinion. I don't think most people think that way, either, despite ranking that way in passing yards. Of course, Vinny Testaverde is a top 10 Qb of all time if we're just ranking passing by passing yards. Let's dig a little deeper:4th in Attempts

6th in Completions

6th in Yards

T-8th in TDs

T-11th in INTs

15th in adjusted net yards per pass attempt

16th in QB Rating

25th in Sack Yards Lost

26th in Sacks

San Diego Chargers

New Orleans Saints

Arizona Cardinals

Miami Dolphins

Indianapolis Colts

Atlanta Falcons

Denver Broncos

Green Bay Packers

Carolina Panthers

Houston Texans

New York Giants

New England Patriots

Dallas Cowboys

Those are thirteen passing games that were all more effective than the Eagles passing game this year. The Eagles passing game is very average, but the Eagles pass a ton because they don't exactly have an elite rushing offense, either.

Why is adjusted net yards per pass attempt the definitive measure to you? Wouldn't it be possible that some passing offenses would net fewer yards per attempt by design? I mean, I've always been taught that there are competing philosophies when it comes to passing - some prefer to march slow and steady down the field while minimizing mistakes, and others prefer to be more aggressive and take chances. I wouldn't expect the two philosophies to grade out equally in net yards per attempt, but that doesn't mean one pass offense is better than the other.

Think of it this way -- a slow and steady, march down the field offense might go 21-30, 260 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT. A more aggressive offense might go 17-30, 305 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT. Both of those offenses would average the same number of adjusted yards per attempt. Why? AY/A gives a 45 yard penalty for all INTs and a 10 or 20 yard bonus for all passing TDs. Adjusted net yards per attempt uses the same formula but also subtracts sack yardage out of the numerator and adds sacks into the denominator. While the formula sounds complicated, it really just makes sense. You can't just take yards into account -- TD, INT and sacks are all very important, too.

 

[JuniorNB]

The Eagles are legit but I just don't think that offense is good enough. They're not very good at passing and they're not very good at running. And they're going to face an awesome defense in the Super Bowl, if they get there. I think they'd be the best matchup of the Big3 in the NFC for any of the Big3 in the AFC.

Against the Giants and Panthers, though, they could pound the running game and win those games. The Panthers and Giants both have pretty good passing games, awesome running games, and pretty good pass defenses. Each team only has one weakness, rush D. That's Philly's best chance, but I don't think their running game is good enough to carry them on the road against both of those guys. If they had the Giants or Panthers running game, sure, but Philly's running game is not in that league.

What?The same offense who put up 48 on the Cardinals?

The same offense who put up 44 on Dallas, and then throttled back?

New Orleans won the league scoring title going away with 463 points.

San Diego is next with 439 - they're still in the playoffs.

3A. Giants, 427 - still in it.

3B. Cardinals, 427 - still in it.

5. Green Bay, 419.

6. Eagles, 416 - still in it.

So of the teams still in it, they are third and averaged just less than half a point less.

Saying their offense is lacking and "just not good enough" is just not right at all.

I didn't say the Eagles didn't score a bunch of points in the regular season, I said the Eagles offense isn't very good. Do you think the Eagles are a top ten rushing team? I don't. Do you think they're a top ten passing team? I don't (I know they passed a bunch of times this year, but that doesn't make them a good passing team). When you're not very good at running or very good at passing, how can you have a very good offense?

#6 Passing offense. Plenty of points.

When they are "ON", they're hard to stop.

Anything can happen any given Sunday, but if the Eagles are playing their best they can beat anyone.

#6 passing offense? Not in my opinion. I don't think most people think that way, either, despite ranking that way in passing yards. Of course, Vinny Testaverde is a top 10 Qb of all time if we're just ranking passing by passing yards. Let's dig a little deeper:4th in Attempts

6th in Completions

6th in Yards

T-8th in TDs

T-11th in INTs

15th in adjusted net yards per pass attempt

16th in QB Rating

25th in Sack Yards Lost

26th in Sacks

San Diego Chargers

New Orleans Saints

Arizona Cardinals

Miami Dolphins

Indianapolis Colts

Atlanta Falcons

Denver Broncos

Green Bay Packers

Carolina Panthers

Houston Texans

New York Giants

New England Patriots

Dallas Cowboys

Those are thirteen passing games that were all more effective than the Eagles passing game this year. The Eagles passing game is very average, but the Eagles pass a ton because they don't exactly have an elite rushing offense, either.

Why is adjusted net yards per pass attempt the definitive measure to you? Wouldn't it be possible that some passing offenses would net fewer yards per attempt by design? I mean, I've always been taught that there are competing philosophies when it comes to passing - some prefer to march slow and steady down the field while minimizing mistakes, and others prefer to be more aggressive and take chances. I wouldn't expect the two philosophies to grade out equally in net yards per attempt, but that doesn't mean one pass offense is better than the other.

Think of it this way -- a slow and steady, march down the field offense might go 21-30, 260 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT. A more aggressive offense might go 17-30, 305 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT. Both of those offenses would average the same number of adjusted yards per attempt. Why? AY/A gives a 45 yard penalty for all INTs and a 10 or 20 yard bonus for all passing TDs. Adjusted net yards per attempt uses the same formula but also subtracts sack yardage out of the numerator and adds sacks into the denominator. While the formula sounds complicated, it really just makes sense. You can't just take yards into account -- TD, INT and sacks are all very important, too.

Wow, Chase. You're really reaching here. #6 in passing offense is #6 in passing offense. A team either succeeds, offensively, or they don't. Philly succeeds as well as 85% of the teams in the league.

 

[Chase Stuart]

The Eagles are legit but I just don't think that offense is good enough. They're not very good at passing and they're not very good at running. And they're going to face an awesome defense in the Super Bowl, if they get there. I think they'd be the best matchup of the Big3 in the NFC for any of the Big3 in the AFC.

Against the Giants and Panthers, though, they could pound the running game and win those games. The Panthers and Giants both have pretty good passing games, awesome running games, and pretty good pass defenses. Each team only has one weakness, rush D. That's Philly's best chance, but I don't think their running game is good enough to carry them on the road against both of those guys. If they had the Giants or Panthers running game, sure, but Philly's running game is not in that league.

What?The same offense who put up 48 on the Cardinals?

The same offense who put up 44 on Dallas, and then throttled back?

New Orleans won the league scoring title going away with 463 points.

San Diego is next with 439 - they're still in the playoffs.

3A. Giants, 427 - still in it.

3B. Cardinals, 427 - still in it.

5. Green Bay, 419.

6. Eagles, 416 - still in it.

So of the teams still in it, they are third and averaged just less than half a point less.

Saying their offense is lacking and "just not good enough" is just not right at all.

I didn't say the Eagles didn't score a bunch of points in the regular season, I said the Eagles offense isn't very good. Do you think the Eagles are a top ten rushing team? I don't. Do you think they're a top ten passing team? I don't (I know they passed a bunch of times this year, but that doesn't make them a good passing team). When you're not very good at running or very good at passing, how can you have a very good offense?

#6 Passing offense. Plenty of points.

When they are "ON", they're hard to stop.

Anything can happen any given Sunday, but if the Eagles are playing their best they can beat anyone.

#6 passing offense? Not in my opinion. I don't think most people think that way, either, despite ranking that way in passing yards. Of course, Vinny Testaverde is a top 10 Qb of all time if we're just ranking passing by passing yards. Let's dig a little deeper:4th in Attempts

6th in Completions

6th in Yards

T-8th in TDs

T-11th in INTs

15th in adjusted net yards per pass attempt

16th in QB Rating

25th in Sack Yards Lost

26th in Sacks

San Diego Chargers

New Orleans Saints

Arizona Cardinals

Miami Dolphins

Indianapolis Colts

Atlanta Falcons

Denver Broncos

Green Bay Packers

Carolina Panthers

Houston Texans

New York Giants

New England Patriots

Dallas Cowboys

Those are thirteen passing games that were all more effective than the Eagles passing game this year. The Eagles passing game is very average, but the Eagles pass a ton because they don't exactly have an elite rushing offense, either.

Why is adjusted net yards per pass attempt the definitive measure to you? Wouldn't it be possible that some passing offenses would net fewer yards per attempt by design? I mean, I've always been taught that there are competing philosophies when it comes to passing - some prefer to march slow and steady down the field while minimizing mistakes, and others prefer to be more aggressive and take chances. I wouldn't expect the two philosophies to grade out equally in net yards per attempt, but that doesn't mean one pass offense is better than the other.

Think of it this way -- a slow and steady, march down the field offense might go 21-30, 260 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT. A more aggressive offense might go 17-30, 305 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT. Both of those offenses would average the same number of adjusted yards per attempt. Why? AY/A gives a 45 yard penalty for all INTs and a 10 or 20 yard bonus for all passing TDs. Adjusted net yards per attempt uses the same formula but also subtracts sack yardage out of the numerator and adds sacks into the denominator. While the formula sounds complicated, it really just makes sense. You can't just take yards into account -- TD, INT and sacks are all very important, too.

Wow, Chase. You're really reaching here. #6 in passing offense is #6 in passing offense. A team either succeeds, offensively, or they don't. Philly succeeds as well as 85% of the teams in the league.

Man, Junior, you're way off base. #15 is #15, no two ways about it. A team either passes well or they don't. Philly passes as well as an average team, and that's it.

 

[Liquid Tension]

Just a comment about the McNabb benching...what the heck is everyone talking about. McNabb and the rest of the team were horrible so it wasn;t a benching as much as pulling him in a game that the outcome was decided. I mean why keep him in during that game. he started the next game so I think it was a smart move.

As for what it meant moving forward, i don't think it had any impact just as if McNabb struggled the rest of the way some would say "he was never the same after he was benched"...and they would be wrong.

I agree with the folks that say the eagles are a scary team to play. they have a tough and aggressive defense who has done a much better job of stopping the run of late and McNabb has been playing great.

As a Giant fan, I hope they have a bad day.

Carolina is a tough foe for both of these teams so the road to the SB is tough. Arizona is going down.

 

[Chunky Soup]

The Eagles are legit but I just don't think that offense is good enough. They're not very good at passing and they're not very good at running.

Hey Chase, cool statistics. One problem. They conveniently include the Eagles when they were a different team. Night/day for McNabb and co (passing+rushing), Ravens game as the tipping point.Here is some very recent evidence: McNabb went 23-for-34 for 300 yards 1/1 on the road against a defense that you lauded for being good against the pass.Why do you hate the Eagles so much?

 

[Chunky Soup]

Just a comment about the McNabb benching...what the heck is everyone talking about. McNabb and the rest of the team were horrible so it wasn;t a benching as much as pulling him in a game that the outcome was decided. I mean why keep him in during that game. he started the next game so I think it was a smart move.

The score was 7-10 when McNabb was pulled. The game was decided? Really?

 

[FlapJacks]

I said a few weeks back that they reminded me of the '07 Giants.

The team struggled, the coach and QB were under fire. and then suddenly they put the pieces together.

This team has looked strong in recent weeks.