chad in Indy
Footballguy
Of course he was unhappy in PITT and prob went diva mode on purpose to get out. He got stuck w garbage QB play and a team philosophy that was defense oriented. Offense hasn't been a focus with Pitt since Big Ben.
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**Eagles at Cowboys**(+3, 47.5) 4:25 (1 Viewer)
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Mr. Landry
Footballguy
Not even a little bit?
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I am!You just worry about your Bucs.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Respectfully, that’s difficult to quantify. Impossible, really. It just becomes lore - a massive post hoc fallacy where you look back in a month and say “see! They won their next 4 games! They were inspired by the loss!”
But it doesn’t mean they’ll have won their next 4 because this loss propelled them. Similarly, if they lose 3 of their next 4, I’ll be the last person to say “that choke against Dallas sent them down a bad path!”
It’s all a bit silly. Each game is a microcosm. today’s game is over. They’ll win or lose their next game on the merits of next game’s performance (or lack thereof) and IMO it’ll have f all to do with today’s choke job.
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STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Again, 88 is drawing top coverage, and is often double covered. That opens up space for Pickens, Fergusen, etc.
Lamb looked plenty good on that 50 yard reception. Dak targets him relentlessly.
Today was a Pickens day. Next week might well be a Lamb day.
Terpman22
Footballguy
opps been calling Lamb a “slot merchant” for literally years.
Wes Welker also caught a buncha passes but no one ever considered him an alpha either.
Pickens is a true/real X In the mold of AJ Brown
GoBirds
Footballguy
I may have just caught a couple of his off games, but how does Lamb compare to Pickens on drops this season? I haven’t watched a lot of Pickens but was very impressed.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
They’re both pretty. They do different things. CeeDee can be counted on to be where he’s supposed to be and he’s good YAC.
George is just different. Throw it up and he can go get it. Last week when he hit that madden hesi-reverse spin, :chefs kiss:
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Today would have been if he could catch the football
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It happen. Maybe he bet the under on Lamb receptions*.
*brought to you by Draft Kings
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Without looking it up I don’t think George has dropped many. If he has it’s usually out of bounds and he makes a one handed grab or he draws PI.
He’s a freak.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I know this has been covered but were the Eagles trying to make a point in the 2nd half by abandoning the run? Up 21-0 is generally the time to run it more. Some questionable coaching decisions on both sides. Cowboys passing up on that FG still has me stumped.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I said in-topic I’d go for it before they did it.
To me it’s all reward. 1 yard line, score and it’s a 7 point game. Fail you have the Eagles at their own 1.
There was what, like 3.5 mins on the clock? If you kick the FG, Eagles can milk it and play for the W or the tie with a FG. Cowboys probably thought a FG was the same as 0 in that situation.
Not saying it’s right, but i would have done the same if i were the coach.
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Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I might be wrong but I thought it was 3 and a half minutes. The Eagles D has been very good at stuffing 3rd/4th and shorts so I feel that needs to factor into it. Also it’s not like the Eagles offense can just score at will. They’ve been underperforming all year.
Terpman22
Footballguy
If I didn’t watch the game I would be
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah, sorry, typo. I thought i typed 3.5
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Your rationale does make sense though. Actually if it were 4 and a half, I would probably be in favor of going for it. I just think that if the Cowboys got 3, the Eagles would do enough to get into FG range (best case scenario). They have been pretty conservative on offense so I don’t see them going for a win in regulation.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Idk what that means
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Be gentle with Terpman - he ran and hid when I asked him for an update on his "Eagles are dominating" gloating post.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Eagles looked great today on O when throwing the ball to AJB. Could have targeted him 20 times.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Gatorade
Footballguy
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Between this prediction and the Rams/Bucs one, I’m starting to wonder if @travdogg is involved in some type of fix. JK.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Fantastic
BladeRunner
Footballguy
Wow! @travdogg is the hero we need!
My_Bench_Scores_More
Footballguy
Cee Dee and Aubrey both screwed me over this week.
Had the former made that FG, I'd have won.... had Cee Dee caught all those passes that he dropped, I'd have won. Either scenario would have been enough for a win.
Had the former made that FG, I'd have won.... had Cee Dee caught all those passes that he dropped, I'd have won. Either scenario would have been enough for a win.
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ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
I didn’t see the prediction for this one until just now. The Rams/Bucs one I saw. I just hope he was betting heavy this week!Between this prediction and the Rams/Bucs one, I’m starting to wonder if @travdogg is involved in some type of fix. JK.
My_Bench_Scores_More
Footballguy
Pickens is clearly the Cowboys' WR1 now. He is completely eclipsing Lamb these days.
Eagles fans, talk to us about that. If you would. Was this more of a matchup thing? Or is Pickens really that much better?
efactor
Footballguy
Hard to argue
Have Dak in a lot of leagues so tune into the Cowboys games a lot. Pickens is amazing. Maybe CeeDee is still not healthy but just looks off. Have a share of CeeDee so hopefully he turns it around but doesn’t look good and it hurts Dak when he tries to force it to him.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
First half Adoree was covering Pickens mostly, with Quinyon on CD. Second half Quinyon remained on CD, Adoree got concussed and Keelee Ringo took over covering Pickens.
At around the same time Reed went down and Sydney Brown came in at safety. Its was game over once Dak noticed.
matchup thing. Pickens picked on the weaker DBs all night. Nobody picks on Quinyon
Thank you @renesauz and @unckeyherb . So you would not be so quick to say Pickens has assumed the WR1 role?
unckeyherb
Footballguy
I would not make that statement based on the game against the Eagles, certainly. It should also be noted, and I’m not sure why this is, but lamb seems to have crazy cases of the dropsies when he plays against the Eagles. Between the first game of the year and this one last night, I’d wager he has close to double digit drops against us.
need2know
Footballguy
What a call
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
I thought I heard the number 7 drops in the 2 games against the Eagles. I could be making that up as that seems overwhelmingly high.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
You may be right. Perhaps the impact of some of those drops made it seem worse.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Well one of his drops cost him the first game and the drop yesterday almost cost them that game. He looked sick to his stomach after that drop.
unckeyherb
Footballguy
Right that’s what I was talking about. Just critical drops in both games.
seems more like a 1a and 1b type thing to me. I certainly wouldn't use this game as my primary evidence though
Football Jones
Footballguy
It wouldn't have taken much for Dallas to have hung a 40-burger on Philly. They didn't, so credit to the Eagles for making some plays, but I'm wondering if their D is overrated. They're just 20th in yardage and 7 teams have given up fewer points. The top Ds are giving up around 75 fewer yards a game. That's a whole other class of good. The Cowboys put up 473 on them with Jalen Carter. That doesn't seem like a dominant D to me.
I'm not sure why Philly's D has the rep it does, although, they've certainly got some good players. No disrespect, but I'm legit curious why people think they have a great D. I mean, we're only giving up about 37 more YPG after our ****show earlier in the season.
I'm not sure why Philly's D has the rep it does, although, they've certainly got some good players. No disrespect, but I'm legit curious why people think they have a great D. I mean, we're only giving up about 37 more YPG after our ****show earlier in the season.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Holding the Packers to 7 and the Lions to 9 in their two games prior to this last one was the mark of a great defense.
Football Jones
Footballguy
It might be the sign of a great D, but they aren't nearly consistent enough to be labeled a great D. I also wouldn't put too much credence into holding the Packers down.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Yeah, in fairness Dak threw that last ball on SNF (in the endzone) to the wrong spot. Lamb had tons of room to accelerate and Dak should have led him more. Eagles LB jumped the route and almost picked it. Guessing he disrupted Lamb’s sight-line.
Terpman22
Footballguy
I'd say looking at all the metrics, regardless of this last game, it appears to me Pickens is the #1.
Its not just b/c he has been healthy all year either, he's just a different kind of WR. He was sorta stuck like AJ Brown was in TN getting barely 100 targets a year, yet his YPC was awesome.
Now he comes into a pass heavy offense and is just taking off.
Maybe its a 1A/1B, but its just looks like X WR and a Z guy to me really in the end.
