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**Eagles at Cowboys**(+3, 47.5) 4:25 (1 Viewer)

Ohai Brandon. Welcome to the game.

What an absolutely humiliating loss for Philly.
Hopefully they use it. If this is the WAS game from last year....I'm fine with that.
I don’t believe in inspirational losses. This was a choke. Nothing positive comes from choking.

I guess we will find out.
Respectfully, that’s difficult to quantify. Impossible, really. It just becomes lore - a massive post hoc fallacy where you look back in a month and say “see! They won their next 4 games! They were inspired by the loss!”

But it doesn’t mean they’ll have won their next 4 because this loss propelled them. Similarly, if they lose 3 of their next 4, I’ll be the last person to say “that choke against Dallas sent them down a bad path!”

It’s all a bit silly. Each game is a microcosm. today’s game is over. They’ll win or lose their next game on the merits of next game’s performance (or lack thereof) and IMO it’ll have f all to do with today’s choke job.
 
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Lamb took a huge step back this year.
Dallas offense is just wonky this year.
Pickins looks like the alpha

Somebody said that last week and I thought they were crazy.

Looks to be true.
Again, 88 is drawing top coverage, and is often double covered. That opens up space for Pickens, Fergusen, etc.

Lamb looked plenty good on that 50 yard reception. Dak targets him relentlessly.

Today was a Pickens day. Next week might well be a Lamb day.
 
Lamb took a huge step back this year.
Dallas offense is just wonky this year.
Pickins looks like the alpha

Somebody said that last week and I thought they were crazy.

Looks to be true.
opps been calling Lamb a “slot merchant” for literally years.

Wes Welker also caught a buncha passes but no one ever considered him an alpha either.

Pickens is a true/real X In the mold of AJ Brown
 
Lamb took a huge step back this year.
Dallas offense is just wonky this year.
Pickins looks like the alpha

Somebody said that last week and I thought they were crazy.

Looks to be true.
Again, 88 is drawing top coverage, and is often double covered. That opens up space for Pickens, Fergusen, etc.

Lamb looked plenty good on that 50 yard reception. Dak targets him relentlessly.

Today was a Pickens day. Next week might well be a Lamb day.
I may have just caught a couple of his off games, but how does Lamb compare to Pickens on drops this season? I haven’t watched a lot of Pickens but was very impressed.
 
Lamb took a huge step back this year.
Dallas offense is just wonky this year.
Pickins looks like the alpha

Somebody said that last week and I thought they were crazy.

Looks to be true.
Again, 88 is drawing top coverage, and is often double covered. That opens up space for Pickens, Fergusen, etc.

Lamb looked plenty good on that 50 yard reception. Dak targets him relentlessly.

Today was a Pickens day. Next week might well be a Lamb day.

They’re both pretty. They do different things. CeeDee can be counted on to be where he’s supposed to be and he’s good YAC.

George is just different. Throw it up and he can go get it. Last week when he hit that madden hesi-reverse spin, :chefs kiss:
 
Lamb took a huge step back this year.
Dallas offense is just wonky this year.
Pickins looks like the alpha

Somebody said that last week and I thought they were crazy.

Looks to be true.
Again, 88 is drawing top coverage, and is often double covered. That opens up space for Pickens, Fergusen, etc.

Lamb looked plenty good on that 50 yard reception. Dak targets him relentlessly.

Today was a Pickens day. Next week might well be a Lamb day.
I may have just caught a couple of his off games, but how does Lamb compare to Pickens on drops this season? I haven’t watched a lot of Pickens but was very impressed.

Without looking it up I don’t think George has dropped many. If he has it’s usually out of bounds and he makes a one handed grab or he draws PI.

He’s a freak.
 
I know this has been covered but were the Eagles trying to make a point in the 2nd half by abandoning the run? Up 21-0 is generally the time to run it more. Some questionable coaching decisions on both sides. Cowboys passing up on that FG still has me stumped.
 
Cowboys passing up on that FG still has me stumped.
I said in-topic I’d go for it before they did it.

To me it’s all reward. 1 yard line, score and it’s a 7 point game. Fail you have the Eagles at their own 1.

There was what, like 3.5 mins on the clock? If you kick the FG, Eagles can milk it and play for the W or the tie with a FG. Cowboys probably thought a FG was the same as 0 in that situation.

Not saying it’s right, but i would have done the same if i were the coach.
 
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Cowboys passing up on that FG still has me stumped.
I said in-topic I’d go for it before they did it.

To me it’s all reward. 1 yard line, score and it’s a 7 point game. Fail you have the Eagles at their own 1.

There was what, like 4.5 mins on the clock? If you kick the FG, Eagles can milk it and play for the W or the tie with a FG. Cowboys probably thought a FG was the same as 0 in that situation.

Not saying it’s right, but i would have done the same if i were the coach.
I might be wrong but I thought it was 3 and a half minutes. The Eagles D has been very good at stuffing 3rd/4th and shorts so I feel that needs to factor into it. Also it’s not like the Eagles offense can just score at will. They’ve been underperforming all year.
 
Cowboys passing up on that FG still has me stumped.
I said in-topic I’d go for it before they did it.

To me it’s all reward. 1 yard line, score and it’s a 7 point game. Fail you have the Eagles at their own 1.

There was what, like 4.5 mins on the clock? If you kick the FG, Eagles can milk it and play for the W or the tie with a FG. Cowboys probably thought a FG was the same as 0 in that situation.

Not saying it’s right, but i would have done the same if i were the coach.
I might be wrong but I thought it was 3 and a half minutes. The Eagles D has been very good at stuffing 3rd/4th and shorts so I feel that needs to factor into it. Also it’s not like the Eagles offense can just score at will. They’ve been underperforming all year.
Yeah, sorry, typo. I thought i typed 3.5
 
Cowboys passing up on that FG still has me stumped.
I said in-topic I’d go for it before they did it.

To me it’s all reward. 1 yard line, score and it’s a 7 point game. Fail you have the Eagles at their own 1.

There was what, like 4.5 mins on the clock? If you kick the FG, Eagles can milk it and play for the W or the tie with a FG. Cowboys probably thought a FG was the same as 0 in that situation.

Not saying it’s right, but i would have done the same if i were the coach.
I might be wrong but I thought it was 3 and a half minutes. The Eagles D has been very good at stuffing 3rd/4th and shorts so I feel that needs to factor into it. Also it’s not like the Eagles offense can just score at will. They’ve been underperforming all year.
Yeah, sorry, typo. I thought i typed 3.5
Your rationale does make sense though. Actually if it were 4 and a half, I would probably be in favor of going for it. I just think that if the Cowboys got 3, the Eagles would do enough to get into FG range (best case scenario). They have been pretty conservative on offense so I don’t see them going for a win in regulation.
 
But if they come out and get 30+ points and rip off 450 yards of offense, then I would be shocked.
24 and 473

Are you shocked??
If I didn’t watch the game I would be
Idk what that means
Be gentle with Terpman - he ran and hid when I asked him for an update on his "Eagles are dominating" gloating post.
Saw that. I believe he put you on ignore
:lol:
 
Pickens is clearly the Cowboys' WR1 now. He is completely eclipsing Lamb these days.
Hard to argue

Have Dak in a lot of leagues so tune into the Cowboys games a lot. Pickens is amazing. Maybe CeeDee is still not healthy but just looks off. Have a share of CeeDee so hopefully he turns it around but doesn’t look good and it hurts Dak when he tries to force it to him.
 
Pickens is clearly the Cowboys' WR1 now. He is completely eclipsing Lamb these days.

Eagles fans, talk to us about that. If you would. Was this more of a matchup thing? Or is Pickens really that much better?
First half Adoree was covering Pickens mostly, with Quinyon on CD. Second half Quinyon remained on CD, Adoree got concussed and Keelee Ringo took over covering Pickens.
At around the same time Reed went down and Sydney Brown came in at safety. Its was game over once Dak noticed.
 
Pickens is clearly the Cowboys' WR1 now. He is completely eclipsing Lamb these days.

Eagles fans, talk to us about that. If you would. Was this more of a matchup thing? Or is Pickens really that much better?
matchup thing. Pickens picked on the weaker DBs all night. Nobody picks on Quinyon

Thank you @renesauz and @unckeyherb . So you would not be so quick to say Pickens has assumed the WR1 role?
 
Pickens is clearly the Cowboys' WR1 now. He is completely eclipsing Lamb these days.

Eagles fans, talk to us about that. If you would. Was this more of a matchup thing? Or is Pickens really that much better?
matchup thing. Pickens picked on the weaker DBs all night. Nobody picks on Quinyon

Thank you @renesauz and @unckeyherb . So you would not be so quick to say Pickens has assumed the WR1 role?
I would not make that statement based on the game against the Eagles, certainly. It should also be noted, and I’m not sure why this is, but lamb seems to have crazy cases of the dropsies when he plays against the Eagles. Between the first game of the year and this one last night, I’d wager he has close to double digit drops against us.
 
Pickens is clearly the Cowboys' WR1 now. He is completely eclipsing Lamb these days.

Eagles fans, talk to us about that. If you would. Was this more of a matchup thing? Or is Pickens really that much better?
matchup thing. Pickens picked on the weaker DBs all night. Nobody picks on Quinyon

Thank you @renesauz and @unckeyherb . So you would not be so quick to say Pickens has assumed the WR1 role?
I would not make that statement based on the game against the Eagles, certainly. It should also be noted, and I’m not sure why this is, but lamb seems to have crazy cases of the dropsies when he plays against the Eagles. Between the first game of the year and this one last night, I’d wager he has close to double digit drops against us.
I thought I heard the number 7 drops in the 2 games against the Eagles. I could be making that up as that seems overwhelmingly high.
 
Pickens is clearly the Cowboys' WR1 now. He is completely eclipsing Lamb these days.

Eagles fans, talk to us about that. If you would. Was this more of a matchup thing? Or is Pickens really that much better?
matchup thing. Pickens picked on the weaker DBs all night. Nobody picks on Quinyon

Thank you @renesauz and @unckeyherb . So you would not be so quick to say Pickens has assumed the WR1 role?
I would not make that statement based on the game against the Eagles, certainly. It should also be noted, and I’m not sure why this is, but lamb seems to have crazy cases of the dropsies when he plays against the Eagles. Between the first game of the year and this one last night, I’d wager he has close to double digit drops against us.
I thought I heard the number 7 drops in the 2 games against the Eagles. I could be making that up as that seems overwhelmingly high.
You may be right. Perhaps the impact of some of those drops made it seem worse.
 
Pickens is clearly the Cowboys' WR1 now. He is completely eclipsing Lamb these days.

Eagles fans, talk to us about that. If you would. Was this more of a matchup thing? Or is Pickens really that much better?
matchup thing. Pickens picked on the weaker DBs all night. Nobody picks on Quinyon

Thank you @renesauz and @unckeyherb . So you would not be so quick to say Pickens has assumed the WR1 role?
I would not make that statement based on the game against the Eagles, certainly. It should also be noted, and I’m not sure why this is, but lamb seems to have crazy cases of the dropsies when he plays against the Eagles. Between the first game of the year and this one last night, I’d wager he has close to double digit drops against us.
I thought I heard the number 7 drops in the 2 games against the Eagles. I could be making that up as that seems overwhelmingly high.
You may be right. Perhaps the impact of some of those drops made it seem worse.
Well one of his drops cost him the first game and the drop yesterday almost cost them that game. He looked sick to his stomach after that drop.
 
Pickens is clearly the Cowboys' WR1 now. He is completely eclipsing Lamb these days.

Eagles fans, talk to us about that. If you would. Was this more of a matchup thing? Or is Pickens really that much better?
matchup thing. Pickens picked on the weaker DBs all night. Nobody picks on Quinyon

Thank you @renesauz and @unckeyherb . So you would not be so quick to say Pickens has assumed the WR1 role?
I would not make that statement based on the game against the Eagles, certainly. It should also be noted, and I’m not sure why this is, but lamb seems to have crazy cases of the dropsies when he plays against the Eagles. Between the first game of the year and this one last night, I’d wager he has close to double digit drops against us.
I thought I heard the number 7 drops in the 2 games against the Eagles. I could be making that up as that seems overwhelmingly high.
You may be right. Perhaps the impact of some of those drops made it seem worse.
Well one of his drops cost him the first game and the drop yesterday almost cost them that game. He looked sick to his stomach after that drop.
Right that’s what I was talking about. Just critical drops in both games.
 
Pickens is clearly the Cowboys' WR1 now. He is completely eclipsing Lamb these days.

Eagles fans, talk to us about that. If you would. Was this more of a matchup thing? Or is Pickens really that much better?
matchup thing. Pickens picked on the weaker DBs all night. Nobody picks on Quinyon

Thank you @renesauz and @unckeyherb . So you would not be so quick to say Pickens has assumed the WR1 role?
seems more like a 1a and 1b type thing to me. I certainly wouldn't use this game as my primary evidence though
 
It wouldn't have taken much for Dallas to have hung a 40-burger on Philly. They didn't, so credit to the Eagles for making some plays, but I'm wondering if their D is overrated. They're just 20th in yardage and 7 teams have given up fewer points. The top Ds are giving up around 75 fewer yards a game. That's a whole other class of good. The Cowboys put up 473 on them with Jalen Carter. That doesn't seem like a dominant D to me.

I'm not sure why Philly's D has the rep it does, although, they've certainly got some good players. No disrespect, but I'm legit curious why people think they have a great D. I mean, we're only giving up about 37 more YPG after our ****show earlier in the season.
 
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It wouldn't have taken much for Dallas to have hung a 40-burger on Philly. They didn't, so credit to them for making some plays, but I'm wondering if the Eagles D is overrated. They're just 20th in yardage and 7 teams have given up fewer points. It doesn't seem like a dominant D to me. The top Ds are giving up around 75 fewer yards a game. That's a whole other class of good. We put up 473 on them with Jalen Carter.

I'm not sure why Philly's D has the rep it does, although, they've certainly got some good players. No disrespect, but I'm legit curious why people think they have one of the best Ds in the league. I mean, we're only giving up about 37 more YPG after our ****show earlier in the season.
Holding the Packers to 7 and the Lions to 9 in their two games prior to this last one was the mark of a great defense.
 
It wouldn't have taken much for Dallas to have hung a 40-burger on Philly. They didn't, so credit to them for making some plays, but I'm wondering if the Eagles D is overrated. They're just 20th in yardage and 7 teams have given up fewer points. It doesn't seem like a dominant D to me. The top Ds are giving up around 75 fewer yards a game. That's a whole other class of good. We put up 473 on them with Jalen Carter.

I'm not sure why Philly's D has the rep it does, although, they've certainly got some good players. No disrespect, but I'm legit curious why people think they have one of the best Ds in the league. I mean, we're only giving up about 37 more YPG after our ****show earlier in the season.
Holding the Packers to 7 and the Lions to 9 in their two games prior to this last one was the mark of a great defense.
It might be the sign of a great D, but they aren't nearly consistent enough to be labeled a great D. I also wouldn't put too much credence into holding the Packers down.
 
Pickens is clearly the Cowboys' WR1 now. He is completely eclipsing Lamb these days.

Eagles fans, talk to us about that. If you would. Was this more of a matchup thing? Or is Pickens really that much better?
matchup thing. Pickens picked on the weaker DBs all night. Nobody picks on Quinyon

Thank you @renesauz and @unckeyherb . So you would not be so quick to say Pickens has assumed the WR1 role?
I would not make that statement based on the game against the Eagles, certainly. It should also be noted, and I’m not sure why this is, but lamb seems to have crazy cases of the dropsies when he plays against the Eagles. Between the first game of the year and this one last night, I’d wager he has close to double digit drops against us.
I thought I heard the number 7 drops in the 2 games against the Eagles. I could be making that up as that seems overwhelmingly high.
You may be right. Perhaps the impact of some of those drops made it seem worse.
Well one of his drops cost him the first game and the drop yesterday almost cost them that game. He looked sick to his stomach after that drop.
Yeah, in fairness Dak threw that last ball on SNF (in the endzone) to the wrong spot. Lamb had tons of room to accelerate and Dak should have led him more. Eagles LB jumped the route and almost picked it. Guessing he disrupted Lamb’s sight-line.
 
Pickens is clearly the Cowboys' WR1 now. He is completely eclipsing Lamb these days.

Eagles fans, talk to us about that. If you would. Was this more of a matchup thing? Or is Pickens really that much better?
matchup thing. Pickens picked on the weaker DBs all night. Nobody picks on Quinyon

Thank you @renesauz and @unckeyherb . So you would not be so quick to say Pickens has assumed the WR1 role?
I would not make that statement based on the game against the Eagles, certainly. It should also be noted, and I’m not sure why this is, but lamb seems to have crazy cases of the dropsies when he plays against the Eagles. Between the first game of the year and this one last night, I’d wager he has close to double digit drops against us.
I'd say looking at all the metrics, regardless of this last game, it appears to me Pickens is the #1.

Its not just b/c he has been healthy all year either, he's just a different kind of WR. He was sorta stuck like AJ Brown was in TN getting barely 100 targets a year, yet his YPC was awesome.

Now he comes into a pass heavy offense and is just taking off.

Maybe its a 1A/1B, but its just looks like X WR and a Z guy to me really in the end.
 

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