Eagles fans give it to Mrs. C... (1 Viewer)

[jwvdcw]

Even I'll admit that we have an unsually high concentration of morons that attend our games...But you also have to be a moron to have a jersey of the Vikes on knowing that this is the case.

I'm sorry, but I disagree here. This is a (supposed) civilized society, and who we root for should not get us into trouble.This is akin to saying the girl wearing the miniskirt was raped becasue she was asking for it by wearing the miniskirt.Unacceptable.

 

[Holy Schneikes]

WHile I don't condone the behavior that was described,there is responsibility that should always be placed on the individual.... I wouldn't drive through LA with a sign that read "I hate Mexicans and Blacks"... it just wouldn't be prudent.

Being a football fan of the opposing team should NEVER be equated with being a racist!!! This is a very dumb analogy - even worse than the miniskirt post

Actually, that analogy's fine too, it just doesn't support his argument at all.If a racist decides to announce his bigotry to the world in a place where it is dangerous for him to do so, he's even more stupid than the rest of his "kin" (I'm just a silly white guy, so please take this little jab in good fun as it was intended).HOWEVER, in America (or any reasonable society in my opinion), it wouldn't be right or legal for anyone to give him a beat-down because of it.Would I cry about it? Nope. And if the guy WASN'T a racist, but just did it as a dare or (bad) joke? STILL wouldn't cry about it, because part of you guys are saying is true - there is individual accountability. But any beat-downs would still be wrong.You can say or wear ANYTHING you want in any public place in America as long as doing so doesn't endanger anyone (yelling fire in a crowded theater etc.). If I want to wear a Vikes jersey (God forbid) or a pink feather boa (slightly better) to an Eagles game, I have the right to a safe environment. Not necessarily PLEASANT, but safe.

 

[scoobygang]

I went to the Giants-Redskins game a year ago at FedEx Field wearing my G-Men threads. I sat in on a tailgate party hosted by Skins fans. I pretty much traded barbs with the rival fans the entire time but it was all in good fun. Both sides recognized that it was merely entertainment. Sure there were a few knuckleheads who came along and seemed to want to make it personal but by and large everyone was having a good time. I realize every Eagle fan doesn't condone this behavior and there are a**holes in every Stadium but it shocks me that there appears to be a very large contingent of Eagle fans who are more than happy to perpetuate this image!

I'll tell you that this isn't the norm at FedEx.I went to every game there this year. There was plenty of drunken abuse from Skins fan.In fact, remember Spurrier's first public humiliation against the Eagles on MNF (the game where he did that raspberry thing with his lips)? An Eagles fan was beaten into a coma on the concourse after that game.I found two things to be conversely true at Redskins games. They oversell the stadiums, so that even the freakin Bengals had a large, vocal visiting fan contingent at games. But also, the Redskins fans can be real jerks, especially if they win. Outright intimidation in the bathrooms.Far too many fans, everywhere, are drunken a-****s.

 

[Kleck.]

Weren't these the same fans that ridiculed Irv Favre's death?Every team has that 10% of fans that take things too far. There is no way to shut them up. If their team gets beat, they get more pissed. If their team wins, they riot. What do you do?

 

[jwvdcw]

LOLLast week, in defense of superpunk Randy Moss, some Viking fans were all over the horrible treatment they and their players recieve in Green Bay. The worst place to visit in sports they said, "racists" they shouted, dangerous brawling drunken thugs. Of course anybody who has ever been to Lambeau knows what horse hockey these Vikes fans were selling. Anybody who viewed the game on T.V. and saw fans in Vikes jerseys sitting in harmony right next to packer fans knew it was all B.S. Now, only a week later they want to hang to tag on Eagles fans. My question: Even if true aren't the allegations tired and indicted by the fans who cry wolf.

To carry out the rape analogy...if 3 women are caught lying about being raped does that mean that we should not listen to the next one who says she was raped?This is a very dangerous and uncalled for situation. I defended Ron Artest in the FFA for days- and actions like this are the reason why! Either put a stop to it now or don't blame the athletes who are forced to take action by themselves.

 

[DazYam48]

"Eagles fans are big and mean and say bad words! I'm going to my room to cry! My city would never do that, we're too smart and educated, and let fans from other cities buy all of our tickets because we're pushovers that only follow our team when they're winning."-Non Eagles fansGet over yourselves Philly haters.

 

[jwvdcw]

And about the "not wearing an opposing jersey" and "miniskirt" comparison. No way is that even close. I don't care what stadium, arena, park you go into, you're taking a chance by wearing opposition colors or jerseys, unless you are a traveling with a couple hundred fans who are rooting for the same team you are. Anyone who lives in a town that allows opposing jerseys to be worn into their stadium without harassing those people, would not be considered a football town if you ask me. I know anytime Baltimore hosts a home game there are thousands of opposing fans there from places like Pittsburgh and Cleveland rooting for those teams. That says something about how loyal your cities fans are. Philadelphia does not have that problem, and I'm proud of that just like I'm proud of our fans.

Yeah, you're just clearly not a football fan if you don't physically and mentally abuse other teams' fans.

 

[Crusaderfan]

I'm a lifelong Eagles fan and resident of the Delaware Valley. The behavior by many of the fans at Eagles games is disgusting. I would never take one of my children to a game because the pre-game sport seems to be how big of a drunken slob can I make myself before kick-off.When I see a bunch of fans getting on a fan of the other team - I snicker. People don't "ask for it" when they wear the jersey of another team to the Linc. It's a friggin' sport - it's not war! These people aren't waving an Iraqi flag or anything. It's amazing how brave people can be in a mob scene. I wonder how many of these tough guys are really that tough in a one-on-one confrontation - without the alcohol. I'm guessing that most of them are not real tough - the real tough guys I've met along the way don't look for fights - they know how bad they are.The most embarassing part of the whole thing is that they seem to pride themselves on going over the line in this type of behavior. I shudder when I think of the crap these guys will do when the Eagles win the Super Bowl. I love the Eagles and think this could be their year - unfortunately many of our fans ARE total #######s.Willie

 

[Lehigh98]

And about the "not wearing an opposing jersey" and "miniskirt" comparison. No way is that even close. I don't care what stadium, arena, park you go into, you're taking a chance by wearing opposition colors or jerseys, unless you are a traveling with a couple hundred fans who are rooting for the same team you are. Anyone who lives in a town that allows opposing jerseys to be worn into their stadium without harassing those people, would not be considered a football town if you ask me. I know anytime Baltimore hosts a home game there are thousands of opposing fans there from places like Pittsburgh and Cleveland rooting for those teams. That says something about how loyal your cities fans are. Philadelphia does not have that problem, and I'm proud of that just like I'm proud of our fans.

Yeah, you're just clearly not a football fan if you don't physically and mentally abuse other teams' fans.

They're beginning to understand!Want a cheesesteak?

 

[jwvdcw]

The fact that a subset of Eagles fans takes pride in this disgraceful reputation is absolutely repugnant.

This, I think is the key point.I keep hearing people say "Don't let the actions of the minority affect your opinion of the majority."But I don't think its just the minority. I'd put it somewhere like this:25% of Philly fans are a-holes who commit these acts50% of Philly fans are a-holes who try to justify these acts by saying "It was their fault for wearing the colors" or "it happens everywhere so its ok."25% of Philly fans are actually outraged at these acts(and I think saying 25% might even be a little high, as I clearly don't see 25% of Philly fans here doing this).

 

[Lehigh98]

I shudder when I think of the crap these guys will do when the Eagles win the Super Bowl.

Other team = Cheesesteaks

 

[suchislife]

I think Eagles fans need to shape up be more like Chargers fans...ya know...just stab them in the parking lot. Or like Redskins fans and just beat the "outsiders" senseless. Maybe we should just hold up a game for over half an hour by throwing bottles on the field when we don't like an official's call (like Cleveland or New Orleans). When we do, Joe Banner can just blow it off by saying something like "our fans were cold...nothing serious happened". That's MUCH better than heckling opposing fans.

 

[stevec]

To perfec the rape analogy, one would need to do this:Miniskirt wearer is walking through an area which is prone to harassment & violence of miniskirt wearers up to and including rape, and is widely known for violence. Tensions are even higher than normal in this area right now.Just change "Miniskirt" to "Vikings jersey" and "rape" to "attempted murder".No smart person would go in wearing only opposing colors. Heck I defended some female Blue Jay fans at the Series in '93 from crap - and baseball is much more tame, and the finals have more corporate types.

 

[davearm]

in '95 I was at a Philly/Blackhawks game in Chicago and was wearing my favorite Philly jersey.

I was in the 2nd row and got heckled by a few people behind me throughout the game (I expected it), but the Blackhawks fan sitting next to me looked at me midway thru the 2nd period and told me the most profound statement I've heard at a sporting event:

"You, you're fine. You know when to cheer, you know what team you're cheering for. It may not be 'my' team, but we all can't like the same team. BUT the real enemy is those corporate f****rs who sit in the row in front of us that come in during the middle of the 2nd period, in the middle of the action, that don't know when to cheer or who to cheer for, then leave with 10 minutes to go in the 3rd to avoid traffic. They wouldn't know a cross-check if Chelios came over the glass and did it himself. THOSE are the real enemy, we're just fans and you're cool with me in my book."

All this with some corporate suit with his family walking in front of us in the middle of the action.

I wish more people had that attitude.

Interesting story. I can't say I agree with the conclusion, however.Philly fans at the Linc are reportedly hurling batteries at opposing fans.

Think about that for a second. You don't just find batteries on the ground at a football stadium. If you've got them, it's because you brought them in with you.

So apparently these Neanderthals got up in the morning, threw on their clothes, and then stashed a couple handfuls of 9-Volts in their pockets on their way out the door. Heck the night before, they probably made a run to Walmart to stock up with a 10-pack. Or perhaps throughout the year when little Billy's RoboFighter runs out of juice, the dead soldiers get tossed into a bag in the closet and saved for when football season rolls around.

That's premeditated, and just plain sick.

Now contrast that with the guy/gal that comes to the game on the company seats, but doesn't know the rules or particularly care who wins or loses, and tell me which is the "enemy".

 

[jwvdcw]

I'm a lifelong Eagles fan and resident of the Delaware Valley. The behavior by many of the fans at Eagles games is disgusting. I would never take one of my children to a game because the pre-game sport seems to be how big of a drunken slob can I make myself before kick-off.When I see a bunch of fans getting on a fan of the other team - I snicker. People don't "ask for it" when they wear the jersey of another team to the Linc. It's a friggin' sport - it's not war! These people aren't waving an Iraqi flag or anything. It's amazing how brave people can be in a mob scene. I wonder how many of these tough guys are really that tough in a one-on-one confrontation - without the alcohol. I'm guessing that most of them are not real tough - the real tough guys I've met along the way don't look for fights - they know how bad they are.The most embarassing part of the whole thing is that they seem to pride themselves on going over the line in this type of behavior. I shudder when I think of the crap these guys will do when the Eagles win the Super Bowl. I love the Eagles and think this could be their year - unfortunately many of our fans ARE total #######s.Willie

WOW! AFTER ABOUT 10 POSTS BY EAGLES FANS, WE FINALLY GET ONE THAT FALLS INTO THE 25% THAT I TALKED ABOUT!Oh yeah, but its just the minority giving the majority of you the bad name

 

[Lehigh98]

Philly fans at the Linc are reportedly hurling batteries at opposing fans.

Please provide link to proof of battery throwing.Thanks

 

[suchislife]

I shudder when I think of the crap these guys will do when the Eagles win the Super Bowl.

How many ppl died in NE last year after they won the SB? Didn't someone drive a car into a crowd of people? Classy.BOSTON (AP) - New England Patriots fans turned rowdy after their team's Super Bowl victory, overturning cars and lighting small fires as thousands swarmed the streets. One person was killed when a driver drove his sport utility vehicle into a crowd.patriots fans riot...must have been disgruntled eagles fansYeah, only in Philly....

 

[stevec]

Philly fans already stab people in the parking lot - even the stadium. A number of my freinds have worked security at the Spectrum or the Vet, and gotten into scrums with the drunken fan.I'd put the Philly fan percentages at this for Eagles games:10% complete idiots - no beer needed30% drunken idiots20% supporters of the idiots20% sheep who just follow along with whatever20% decent fansIronically, probably slightly better at Flyers games, since there are less casual fans and tickets are more $ for the season.

 

[Genester]

Eagles fans give it to Mrs. C... (Pages 1 2 ) hard

 

[Kleck.]

Anyone know what kind of lawsuits or crimial charges come out of incidents that happen at NFL games? Just curious to know if the perps aren't caught for some of the criminal offenses, do the teams get a lawsuit against them? Can the team be held responsible for not suppling an adequate amount of security? What stadiums get the most police actions related to crimial disputes at them?I don't know if I've ever seen a breakdown for all the sports teams of this type of info.

 

[stevec]

Philly fans at the Linc are reportedly hurling batteries at opposing fans.

Please provide link to proof of battery throwing.Thanks

Lehigh:Will an eyewitness account do? It's a Phils game with Drew back in town. I was there, and one of the guys with my group brought batteries, and chucked one at a fan in a Cardinals jersey in the parking lot. When I found out, I asked him if he wanted to go to jail, and if everyone else wanted us to have to go to court with him, and see what happened. He was a moron friend of a not-too-bright relative.

 

[davearm]

Philly fans at the Linc are reportedly hurling batteries at opposing fans.

Please provide link to proof of battery throwing.Thanks

Here you go sir.

Vikings fans take a beating in Philly, too

Paul Levy, Star Tribune

January 17, 2005 PHILLY0117

PHILADELPHIA -- Rough game. But maybe a rougher crowd.

The Minnesota Vikings lost to the Philadelphia Eagles 27-14 Sunday -- ending the Vikings' playoff hopes and season. But all the mother of Vikings lineman Chris Liwienski could talk about was how she and her family were physically abused by fans in the upper deck of Lincoln Financial Field.

Wearing one of her son's purple Vikings jerseys, Marie Hoppe said she was pushed repeatedly by hostile Philadelphia fans. Her daughter-in-law, Christina Liwienski, said she was hit in the head by a plastic beer bottle.

"We were warned that Philadelphia fans would be rough, the worst in the league, and my son begged me not to wear this jersey," said Hoppe, of suburban Detroit. "Fans are supposed to come to games, not thugs. But these people had their hands on me constantly.

"What are these people doing at sporting events like this?"

The announced crowd of 67,722 seemed determined to enhance a well-earned reputation as the National Football League's crudest. But the Eagles -- the top seed and class of the National Football Conference -- didn't really need any extra help against a Vikings team that finished the season 9-9 and looked every bit like the conference's lowest playoff seed.

With Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb dissecting the Minnesota secondary early and passing for two touchdowns, and facing a tough Philadelphia defense, the Vikings looked very much like a team that lost four of its final five regular season games and not like a team that upset the Packers in Green Bay in the playoffs' first round.

"Giving up 21 points in the first half doesn't help," Vikings cornerback Antoine Winfield said.

Obnoxious and hostile

The Vikings offered their fans hope when quarterback Daunte Culpepper's 7-yard touchdown run in the second quarter cut the Eagles' lead to 14-7.

"We still have a chance," Marie Hoppe said during the third quarter.

But she and her family had long given up on the Eagles fans. Joe Liwienski, Chris' 22-year-old brother, said he attended the "basketbrawl" game in Auburn Hills, Mich., where members of the Indiana Pacers exchanged punches with Detroit Pistons fans.

"This was 10 times worse," he said.

"The fans were obnoxious," Chris Liwienski said from the Vikings locker room. "They were chanting stuff to Randy [Moss] throughout the game. You expect that, but you don't expect them to abuse people in the stands trying to enjoy the game."

The few fans who came to the game wearing Vikings purple were greeted by a boisterous and hostile crowd that began sharpening their fangs in parking lots near the stadium at 6 a.m., presumably stirring their alcoholic beverages with rusty nails.

Mike Hughes, 39, of Excelsior, wearing a purple Randy Moss jersey on his back and his heart on his sleeve, walked right through the Eagles crowd that hurled obscenities and promised to throw even more at him.

"Batteries," he said. "They're threatening to throw batteries.

"I went to all but three Vikings road games this year," Hughes said. "I can tell you that Green Bay is nothing like this."

Scott Bain, 33, also wearing a Moss jersey, said he "never felt so lonely" as he walked briskly through a parking lot crowded with Eagles fans chanting obscenities and holding "Jacksonville or Bust" signs.

"We had upper deck seats, but we got so many warnings about what might happen to us that we sold them and bought club level seats on the street," said Bain, formerly of Anoka and now a lawyer in Washington, D.C. "We were told it was safer there."

Said Steve Beckman, 47, of New Brighton, in a well-worn (but not yet battered) Moss jersey: "They warned us not to wear this attire, but we didn't listen. I even rode the subway here.

"They told us that if the Vikings win, we'd better take a cab home, for our own protection."

"We still better watch out for batteries," said Jimmy Bahnson, 22, of Fridley, wearing a Culpepper jersey.

Philadelphia, which has lost the three previous conference title games, will try again next Sunday against Atlanta.

"How many disappointments can Philadelphia fans take?" asked John Groses, 74, of Media, Pa.

"This city's been through hell with its sports teams," said Tom Jones, of Milton, Del., whose bus is painted Eagles green, has Eagles logos in every window and has become a pregame meeting place for Eagles cheerleaders, fans and anyone looking for a photo opportunity or to commiserate.

"We gear ourselves up for these games, but the worst has happened so many times."

The worst happened in the upper deck, in the corner of the end zone, Chris Liwienski said.

"I tried to warn them," he said of his family. "It's like these fans have hit a new low."

 

[R.P. McMurphy]

Ironically, probably slightly better at Flyers games, since there are less casual fans and tickets are more $ for the season.

Who are the Flyers?

 

[Crusaderfan]

Ironically, probably slightly better at Flyers games, since there are less casual fans and tickets are more $ for the season.

Who are the Flyers?

Back in the days when there used to be hockey - they were the Philadelphia team.

 

[Lehigh98]

Philly fans at the Linc are reportedly hurling batteries at opposing fans.

Please provide link to proof of battery throwing.Thanks

Here you go sir.

Vikings fans take a beating in Philly, too

Paul Levy, Star Tribune

January 17, 2005 PHILLY0117

PHILADELPHIA -- Rough game. But maybe a rougher crowd.

The Minnesota Vikings lost to the Philadelphia Eagles 27-14 Sunday -- ending the Vikings' playoff hopes and season. But all the mother of Vikings lineman Chris Liwienski could talk about was how she and her family were physically abused by fans in the upper deck of Lincoln Financial Field.

Wearing one of her son's purple Vikings jerseys, Marie Hoppe said she was pushed repeatedly by hostile Philadelphia fans. Her daughter-in-law, Christina Liwienski, said she was hit in the head by a plastic beer bottle.

"We were warned that Philadelphia fans would be rough, the worst in the league, and my son begged me not to wear this jersey," said Hoppe, of suburban Detroit. "Fans are supposed to come to games, not thugs. But these people had their hands on me constantly.

"What are these people doing at sporting events like this?"

The announced crowd of 67,722 seemed determined to enhance a well-earned reputation as the National Football League's crudest. But the Eagles -- the top seed and class of the National Football Conference -- didn't really need any extra help against a Vikings team that finished the season 9-9 and looked every bit like the conference's lowest playoff seed.

With Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb dissecting the Minnesota secondary early and passing for two touchdowns, and facing a tough Philadelphia defense, the Vikings looked very much like a team that lost four of its final five regular season games and not like a team that upset the Packers in Green Bay in the playoffs' first round.

"Giving up 21 points in the first half doesn't help," Vikings cornerback Antoine Winfield said.

Obnoxious and hostile

The Vikings offered their fans hope when quarterback Daunte Culpepper's 7-yard touchdown run in the second quarter cut the Eagles' lead to 14-7.

"We still have a chance," Marie Hoppe said during the third quarter.

But she and her family had long given up on the Eagles fans. Joe Liwienski, Chris' 22-year-old brother, said he attended the "basketbrawl" game in Auburn Hills, Mich., where members of the Indiana Pacers exchanged punches with Detroit Pistons fans.

"This was 10 times worse," he said.

"The fans were obnoxious," Chris Liwienski said from the Vikings locker room. "They were chanting stuff to Randy [Moss] throughout the game. You expect that, but you don't expect them to abuse people in the stands trying to enjoy the game."

The few fans who came to the game wearing Vikings purple were greeted by a boisterous and hostile crowd that began sharpening their fangs in parking lots near the stadium at 6 a.m., presumably stirring their alcoholic beverages with rusty nails.

Mike Hughes, 39, of Excelsior, wearing a purple Randy Moss jersey on his back and his heart on his sleeve, walked right through the Eagles crowd that hurled obscenities and promised to throw even more at him.

"Batteries," he said. "They're threatening to throw batteries.

"I went to all but three Vikings road games this year," Hughes said. "I can tell you that Green Bay is nothing like this."

Scott Bain, 33, also wearing a Moss jersey, said he "never felt so lonely" as he walked briskly through a parking lot crowded with Eagles fans chanting obscenities and holding "Jacksonville or Bust" signs.

"We had upper deck seats, but we got so many warnings about what might happen to us that we sold them and bought club level seats on the street," said Bain, formerly of Anoka and now a lawyer in Washington, D.C. "We were told it was safer there."

Said Steve Beckman, 47, of New Brighton, in a well-worn (but not yet battered) Moss jersey: "They warned us not to wear this attire, but we didn't listen. I even rode the subway here.

"They told us that if the Vikings win, we'd better take a cab home, for our own protection."

"We still better watch out for batteries," said Jimmy Bahnson, 22, of Fridley, wearing a Culpepper jersey.

Philadelphia, which has lost the three previous conference title games, will try again next Sunday against Atlanta.

"How many disappointments can Philadelphia fans take?" asked John Groses, 74, of Media, Pa.

"This city's been through hell with its sports teams," said Tom Jones, of Milton, Del., whose bus is painted Eagles green, has Eagles logos in every window and has become a pregame meeting place for Eagles cheerleaders, fans and anyone looking for a photo opportunity or to commiserate.

"We gear ourselves up for these games, but the worst has happened so many times."

The worst happened in the upper deck, in the corner of the end zone, Chris Liwienski said.

"I tried to warn them," he said of his family. "It's like these fans have hit a new low."

I saw the threat, where is the part where they actually throw the batteries?

 

[Varmint]

Having attended many games at Mile High...I can really only witness to what I've seen there.While "yes", I have seen brawls....for the most part I've noticed that anyone is allowed to cheer FOR thier team....just not AGAINST the Broncos.....ie.....Cheering when the visiting team scores is acceptable....while....booing when the Broncos score will earn you some retalliation for some boozed up Broncos' fan.I am sure that "booze" is the common demoninator in most stadium conflicts.

 

[Lehigh98]

Philly fans at the Linc are reportedly hurling batteries at opposing fans.

Please provide link to proof of battery throwing.Thanks

Lehigh:Will an eyewitness account do? It's a Phils game with Drew back in town. I was there, and one of the guys with my group brought batteries, and chucked one at a fan in a Cardinals jersey in the parking lot. When I found out, I asked him if he wanted to go to jail, and if everyone else wanted us to have to go to court with him, and see what happened. He was a moron friend of a not-too-bright relative.

The JD Drew incident is the one main time I heard of actual battery throwing. Like everything else it was probably blown way out of proportion. Someone probably saw your stupid friend do it and suddenly... "Everyone was throwing batteries! I couldn't see because the sun was blotted out by the shear number of them!"

 

[suchislife]

I will not be at the game Sunday vs. the Falcons and I would never do this myself, but the forecast is calling for a lot of snow this weekend. If you're a Falcon fan and wear a black & red jersey to the game, I guarantee you will be pelted with snowballs. Consider this fair warning so you don't come crying to the message board on Monday.

 

[davearm]

Philly fans at the Linc are reportedly hurling batteries at opposing fans.

Please provide link to proof of battery throwing.Thanks

Here you go sir.

Vikings fans take a beating in Philly, too

Paul Levy, Star Tribune

January 17, 2005 PHILLY0117

PHILADELPHIA -- Rough game. But maybe a rougher crowd.

"Batteries," he said. "They're threatening to throw batteries.

"We still better watch out for batteries," said Jimmy Bahnson, 22, of Fridley, wearing a Culpepper jersey.

I saw the threat, where is the part where they actually throw the batteries?

Surely you're kidding, right?You're not naive enough to believe that fans are bringing batteries, but only threatening to throw them, are you? (As if that alone could be rationalized )

Lehigh you're not doing your fellow Eagles fans any favors here with your attempts to defend and justify this hooliganism.

 

[Lehigh98]

I will not be at the game Sunday vs. the Falcons and I would never do this myself, but the forecast is calling for a lot of snow this weekend. If you're a Falcon fan and wear a black & red jersey to the game, I guarantee you will be pelted with snowballs. Consider this fair warning so you don't come crying to the message board on Monday.

Of course Philly fans should be arrested for what you send your children outside to do when it snows. Next you'll be telling me that we can't write "Falcons Suck" in used beer in the snow.

 

[falconeyed]

Send 'em out to the Left Coast. Oakland Coliseum is off of Hegenberger Drive, right off of I880. Can't miss it. Tell the Philly ladies to bring their skirts and their wood screws, because if they tried that crap in Oakland, they'd get their doors blown off.

 

[davearm]

I'm a lifelong Eagles fan and resident of the Delaware Valley. The behavior by many of the fans at Eagles games is disgusting. I would never take one of my children to a game because the pre-game sport seems to be how big of a drunken slob can I make myself before kick-off.When I see a bunch of fans getting on a fan of the other team - I snicker. People don't "ask for it" when they wear the jersey of another team to the Linc. It's a friggin' sport - it's not war! These people aren't waving an Iraqi flag or anything. It's amazing how brave people can be in a mob scene. I wonder how many of these tough guys are really that tough in a one-on-one confrontation - without the alcohol. I'm guessing that most of them are not real tough - the real tough guys I've met along the way don't look for fights - they know how bad they are.The most embarassing part of the whole thing is that they seem to pride themselves on going over the line in this type of behavior. I shudder when I think of the crap these guys will do when the Eagles win the Super Bowl. I love the Eagles and think this could be their year - unfortunately many of our fans ARE total #######s.Willie

WillieRefreshing to see an Eagles backer put a foot down and condemn the stupidity being displayed by his fellow fans.

 

[PewterFan]

Phillsucks.com

Keep on ticking.

I will always root for the Eagles demise regardless of the situation.

 

[Lehigh98]

Philly fans at the Linc are reportedly hurling batteries at opposing fans.

Please provide link to proof of battery throwing.Thanks

Here you go sir.

Vikings fans take a beating in Philly, too

Paul Levy, Star Tribune

January 17, 2005 PHILLY0117

PHILADELPHIA -- Rough game. But maybe a rougher crowd.

"Batteries," he said. "They're threatening to throw batteries.

"We still better watch out for batteries," said Jimmy Bahnson, 22, of Fridley, wearing a Culpepper jersey.

I saw the threat, where is the part where they actually throw the batteries?

Surely you're kidding, right?You're not naive enough to believe that fans are bringing batteries, but only threatening to throw them, are you? (As if that alone could be rationalized )

Lehigh you're not doing your fellow Eagles fans any favors here with your attempts to defend and justify this hooliganism.

Link to the proof that they actually had batteries on them please?I posted that we turn opposing fans into cheesesteaks, I guess you believe that too?

I'm not saying that Eagles fans don't use the reputation that the media has given us in order to harass fans of other teams. Everyone thinks we throw batteries, fine we throw batteries. Hey I'm going to throw batteries at you! Do I actually have to have batteries on me to threaten / intimidate you with talk like that? Nope. I just need to be a drunk fan yelling incoherently.

Still waiting on an article that details a player or fan being struck by a battery. You'd think with all the attention we get as soon as something like that would happen it would be front page news. And you seem to think everyone in Philly is packing Energizers so the stories should be easy to find. Don't waste too much of your time, please just post links to 3 or 4. Thanks.

 

[John Maddens Lunchbox]

This is almost getting as bad as English soccer hooligans

 

[vinwinephans]

Even I'll admit that we have an unsually high concentration of morons that attend our games...But you also have to be a moron to have a jersey of the Vikes on knowing that this is the case.

I'm sorry, but I disagree here. This is a (supposed) civilized society, and who we root for should not get us into trouble.This is akin to saying the girl wearing the miniskirt was raped becasue she was asking for it by wearing the miniskirt.Unacceptable.

But she was. There are bad people in the world - don't antagonzie them if you don't want to deal with them.Editted to add:I don't condone the behavior, but until the Eagles Brass starts kicking people out for this behavior, it won't stop.Kick them out and show them how they wasted their money and good people will buy those seats.If you're and a**hole and you know you are going to be an a** when you go to game, you may not even bother if you know the Linc has a reputation for upholding the civilty. On the other hand, I don't want my stadium turning into a church - expect to get verbal smack for being a vistor on home team's during the play-offs.

 

[davearm]

Philly fans at the Linc are reportedly hurling batteries at opposing fans.

Please provide link to proof of battery throwing.Thanks

Here you go sir.

Vikings fans take a beating in Philly, too

Paul Levy, Star Tribune

January 17, 2005 PHILLY0117

PHILADELPHIA -- Rough game. But maybe a rougher crowd.

"Batteries," he said. "They're threatening to throw batteries.

"We still better watch out for batteries," said Jimmy Bahnson, 22, of Fridley, wearing a Culpepper jersey.

I saw the threat, where is the part where they actually throw the batteries?

Surely you're kidding, right?You're not naive enough to believe that fans are bringing batteries, but only threatening to throw them, are you? (As if that alone could be rationalized )

Lehigh you're not doing your fellow Eagles fans any favors here with your attempts to defend and justify this hooliganism.

Link to the proof that they actually had batteries on them please?I posted that we turn opposing fans into cheesesteaks, I guess you believe that too?

I'm not saying that Eagles fans don't use the reputation that the media has given us in order to harass fans of other teams. Everyone thinks we throw batteries, fine we throw batteries. Hey I'm going to throw batteries at you! Do I actually have to have batteries on me to threaten / intimidate you with talk like that? Nope. I just need to be a drunk fan yelling incoherently.

Still waiting on an article that details a player or fan being struck by a battery. You'd think with all the attention we get as soon as something like that would happen it would be front page news. And you seem to think everyone in Philly is packing Energizers so the stories should be easy to find. Don't waste too much of your time, please just post links to 3 or 4. Thanks.

Oh so now they're threatening to throw batteries, but aren't actually carrying batteries.You're too much Lehigh.

BTW how was Santa to you this year?

 

[Lehigh98]

This is almost getting as bad as English soccer hooligans

I was at Manchester U vs Barcelona FC at the Linc a couple years ago. Those guys are pretty bad. Didn't really see any actual violence, but then again I haven't seen any actual violence in the 13 Eagles games I've attended at Linc since then either.When I say bad, I mean really drunk. I actually had to grab a guy on the way out because I thought he was going to fall over the second level railing in a drunken stupor.

 

[suchislife]

They knew he was in hostile territory. After all, the father of Niners center Jeremy Newberry was hit in the head by a beer bottle. Newberry's dad refused treatment after the game and was groggy.

didnt happen in philly

C'mon people, so CPep's wife got verbally harassed....

 

[Lehigh98]

Philly fans at the Linc are reportedly hurling batteries at opposing fans.

Please provide link to proof of battery throwing.Thanks

Here you go sir.

Vikings fans take a beating in Philly, too

Paul Levy, Star Tribune

January 17, 2005 PHILLY0117

PHILADELPHIA -- Rough game. But maybe a rougher crowd.

"Batteries," he said. "They're threatening to throw batteries.

"We still better watch out for batteries," said Jimmy Bahnson, 22, of Fridley, wearing a Culpepper jersey.

I saw the threat, where is the part where they actually throw the batteries?

Surely you're kidding, right?You're not naive enough to believe that fans are bringing batteries, but only threatening to throw them, are you? (As if that alone could be rationalized )

Lehigh you're not doing your fellow Eagles fans any favors here with your attempts to defend and justify this hooliganism.

Link to the proof that they actually had batteries on them please?I posted that we turn opposing fans into cheesesteaks, I guess you believe that too?

I'm not saying that Eagles fans don't use the reputation that the media has given us in order to harass fans of other teams. Everyone thinks we throw batteries, fine we throw batteries. Hey I'm going to throw batteries at you! Do I actually have to have batteries on me to threaten / intimidate you with talk like that? Nope. I just need to be a drunk fan yelling incoherently.

Still waiting on an article that details a player or fan being struck by a battery. You'd think with all the attention we get as soon as something like that would happen it would be front page news. And you seem to think everyone in Philly is packing Energizers so the stories should be easy to find. Don't waste too much of your time, please just post links to 3 or 4. Thanks.

Oh so now they're threatening to throw batteries, but aren't actually carrying batteries.You're too much Lehigh.

BTW how was Santa to you this year?

So you think people carrying batteries are actually going to publicly declare that they have batteries on them and are going to throw them at you?Do you believe everything everyone tells you?

No wonder you still believe in Santa.

Let me know when you find all the articles on people actually being struck by these.

 

[Kleck.]

C'mon people, so CPep's wife got verbally harassed....

:stillers: This thread has moved way beyond that point.

 

[Lehigh98]

This is fun and all but I have to drop off for a while. I need to get some work done and load up on D's for the game on Sunday.

 

[suchislife]

Looks like Santa has forgiven Philly for the unfortunate 1968 booing incident...

santa is an eagles fan

 

[houndirish]

I went to the Giants-Redskins game a year ago at FedEx Field wearing my G-Men threads. I sat in on a tailgate party hosted by Skins fans. I pretty much traded barbs with the rival fans the entire time but it was all in good fun. Both sides recognized that it was merely entertainment. Sure there were a few knuckleheads who came along and seemed to want to make it personal but by and large everyone was having a good time. I realize every Eagle fan doesn't condone this behavior and there are a**holes in every Stadium but it shocks me that there appears to be a very large contingent of Eagle fans who are more than happy to perpetuate this image!

I'll tell you that this isn't the norm at FedEx.I went to every game there this year. There was plenty of drunken abuse from Skins fan.In fact, remember Spurrier's first public humiliation against the Eagles on MNF (the game where he did that raspberry thing with his lips)? An Eagles fan was beaten into a coma on the concourse after that game.I found two things to be conversely true at Redskins games. They oversell the stadiums, so that even the freakin Bengals had a large, vocal visiting fan contingent at games. But also, the Redskins fans can be real jerks, especially if they win. Outright intimidation in the bathrooms.Far too many fans, everywhere, are drunken a-****s.

Like I said in my post ... every stadium has it's fair share of idiots. Having worked at FedEx Field for the first 5 seasons of its existence I got a pretty good exposure to fan behavior. As one poster indicated, alcohol is almost always a contributing factor to deviant behavior. At Skins games, the bars on the Club level don't close! Not only that the stadium remains open for business even after the games have ended. So if the Skins are playing at 1 PM you can hang out on club level till almost 8 PM and have access to alcohol the entire time! Take some redneck dude, add unlimited access to alcohol and you've got an incident waiting to happen.Sure there were fights in almost every game I can remember but I would tend to think every NFL Stadium has fights in it on any given Sunday. That doesn't make it right. What was a noticeable trend is that the fights and violence increased dramatically when the Cowboys came to town. This was noticeable during the first season at the new stadium. To my knowledge the Skins never increased security for Cowboy fans during my years there and I don't believe they have since. That's what I call horrible stadium managment. If the Red Wings are playing the Avalanche is there a better chance of violence? You bet. When it's a heated rivalry tempers always rise moreso than if some team from the opposite coast comes visiting. It's amazing to me that teams don't spend the extra buck on an ounce of prevention especially when they know the risk is heavier. Despite my knowledge of the climate, I still wore my #36 Shaun Williams Giants jersey when I went to the game in '03. Funny that one poster mentioned intimidation in the bathrooms. I found the opposite. I had lower level seats and was hitting the john during halftime. The Giants were firmly in control 21-7. One guy jokingly said he was going to pee on me for wearing a Giants jersey. Another Skin fan chimed in with .. "lay off of him ... at least it's not a Shockey jersey!" which pretty much left everybody in the bathroom chuckling! I was surrounded by "the enemy" but never felt unsafe. But I agree the Skins could do more to make it a pleasant and safe fan environmentIn the Eagles case it's amazing to me the team doesn't at least attempt to give the impression they're cracking down on the unruly fan behavior.

 

[Tong Po]

Philly fans at the Linc are reportedly hurling batteries at opposing fans.

Please provide link to proof of battery throwing.Thanks

Here you go sir.

Vikings fans take a beating in Philly, too

Paul Levy, Star Tribune

January 17, 2005 PHILLY0117

PHILADELPHIA -- Rough game. But maybe a rougher crowd.

"Batteries," he said. "They're threatening to throw batteries.

"We still better watch out for batteries," said Jimmy Bahnson, 22, of Fridley, wearing a Culpepper jersey.

I saw the threat, where is the part where they actually throw the batteries?

Surely you're kidding, right?You're not naive enough to believe that fans are bringing batteries, but only threatening to throw them, are you? (As if that alone could be rationalized )

Lehigh you're not doing your fellow Eagles fans any favors here with your attempts to defend and justify this hooliganism.

I believe the type of batteries being thrown should be considered here as well. I would imagine a D battery to the cranium would hurt pretty substantially... probably put a good lump on your head. While taking a AAA battery off the forehead wouldn't hurt nearly as bad... especially if you had a nice heavy wool hat on. Now one of those little round watch batteries would only do damage if it was loaded into a slingshot. Otherwise, it would be difficult to throw one of those things with any degree of accuracy... especially with the swirling winds at Lincoln Financial. A car battery... now that would hurt. But I think you would need to be wearing an awfully big bubble goose parka to smuggle one of those bad boys into the stadium.

 

[JAA]

You guys don't know the half of it. In Philly we make a habit of quietly killing about a dozen fans of the opposing team each game and then using them for the cheesesteaks at the concession stands. Not only do we use them for the meat but we grind their bones to make the rolls. (Amaroso actually means "from the bones of the infidel dead")The cops and the judge at the Linc are in on it too. Why do you think you only hear about Eagles fans that have to go in front of the judge? Because the fans of opposing teams go in and disappear!... never to return to the outside or be heard from again... unless that is, in the form of a cheesesteak fart.

:rotflmao:

 

[JAA]

The fact that a subset of Eagles fans takes pride in this disgraceful reputation is absolutely repugnant.

This, I think is the key point.I keep hearing people say "Don't let the actions of the minority affect your opinion of the majority."But I don't think its just the minority. I'd put it somewhere like this:25% of Philly fans are a-holes who commit these acts50% of Philly fans are a-holes who try to justify these acts by saying "It was their fault for wearing the colors" or "it happens everywhere so its ok."25% of Philly fans are actually outraged at these acts(and I think saying 25% might even be a little high, as I clearly don't see 25% of Philly fans here doing this).

Nice blanket stats. Got any proof?

 

[JAA]

Philly fans at the Linc are reportedly hurling batteries at opposing fans.

 

[JAA]

I shudder when I think of the crap these guys will do when the Eagles win the Super Bowl.

How many ppl died in NE last year after they won the SB? Didn't someone drive a car into a crowd of people? Classy.BOSTON (AP) - New England Patriots fans turned rowdy after their team's Super Bowl victory, overturning cars and lighting small fires as thousands swarmed the streets. One person was killed when a driver drove his sport utility vehicle into a crowd.patriots fans riot...must have been disgruntled eagles fansYeah, only in Philly....

 

[JAA]

Oh so now they're threatening to throw batteries, but aren't actually carrying batteries.You're too much Lehigh.

BTW how was Santa to you this year?

So you think people carrying batteries are actually going to publicly declare that they have batteries on them and are going to throw them at you?

Do you believe everything everyone tells you?

No wonder you still believe in Santa.

Let me know when you find all the articles on people actually being struck by these.

:rotflmao: stop, it hurts :rotflmao: my belly hurts