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Round # uno

1. LaDainian Tomlinson RB SDC 1.01.33 1.01 1.02 00.52 6 2. Larry Johnson RB KCC 1.01.60 1.01 1.02 00.55 5 3. Shaun Alexander RB SEA 1.02.75 1.02 1.03 00.50 4 4. Tiki Barber RB NYG 1.05.80 1.04 1.09 02.49 5 5. Edgerrin James RB IND 1.06.40 1.04 1.09 01.95 5 6. Clinton Portis RB WAS 1.06.40 1.04 1.08 01.67 5 7. LaMont Jordan RB OAK 1.07.80 1.05 1.10 02.28 5 8. Rudi Johnson RB CIN 1.09.40 1.06 1.12 02.70 5 9. Steven Jackson RB STL 1.11.60 1.09 2.05 03.71 5 10. Peyton Manning QB IND 1.12.50 1.06 2.11 06.57 6 11. Steve Smith WR CAR 2.02.20 1.07 2.12 07.66 5 12. Willis McGahee RB BUF 2.03.00 1.05 2.11 07.44 4As expected, Steve Smith is the early favorite for #1 WR off the board. Surprised to see Willis still ranking strong at #12 and Manning still at #10.Round # dos

13. Deuce McAllister RB NOS 2.03.33 1.12 2.05 02.89 3 14. Brian Westbrook RB PHI 2.04.20 1.12 2.09 03.49 5 15. Julius Jones RB DAL 2.04.83 1.11 2.11 04.54 6 16. Carnell Williams RB TBB 2.06.25 1.11 3.07 09.22 4 17. Randy Moss WR OAK 2.06.25 2.01 2.10 04.11 4 18. Terrell Owens WR PHI 2.06.40 2.03 2.11 02.88 5 19. Torry Holt WR STL 2.07.50 2.03 3.01 04.20 4 20. Corey Dillon RB NEP 2.08.67 2.03 3.06 08.14 3 21. Marvin Harrison WR IND 2.09.83 2.01 3.02 06.11 6 22. Chad Johnson WR CIN 2.10.00 2.07 2.12 02.12 5 23. Ronnie Brown RB MIA 2.10.60 2.01 4.12 14.42 5 24. Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI 3.03.00 2.09 3.11 05.89 4Deuce going early and very surprised to see Fitz at only #24. He will be an early 2nd rounder come August IMO.Round # tres

25. Kevin Jones RB DET 3.03.33 2.07 4.03 10.41 3 26. Jamal Lewis RB BAL 3.04.67 2.10 3.09 05.86 3 27. Reggie Wayne WR IND 3.07.50 3.01 4.04 06.35 4 28. Anquan Boldin WR ARI 3.07.75 3.02 4.06 07.32 4 29. Hines Ward WR PIT 3.08.75 3.05 4.02 03.86 4 30. Chris Chambers WR MIA 3.10.00 3.04 4.08 07.12 4 31. Willie Parker RB PIT 3.10.80 2.07 5.01 11.01 5 32. Antonio Gates TE SDC 3.11.00 3.04 5.02 10.23 4 33. DeShaun Foster RB CAR 4.01.75 3.03 4.09 08.85 4 34. Warrick Dunn RB ATL 4.02.75 3.12 4.06 03.20 4 35. Reuben Droughns RB CLE 4.03.25 2.10 4.11 11.70 4 36. Darrell Jackson WR SEA 4.03.50 3.11 4.12 05.80 4Parker @31 is looking like very good value as it stands right now. We'll see how the draft shakes out for Pitt.Round # quatro

37. Thomas Jones RB CHI 4.03.75 3.04 5.07 12.23 4 38. Santana Moss WR WAS 4.05.75 3.11 4.11 06.18 4 39. Joe Horn WR NOS 4.06.00 3.11 4.11 05.03 4 40. Andre Johnson WR HOU 4.07.67 4.01 5.01 06.11 3 41. Roy Williams WR DET 4.08.00 4.03 5.05 07.81 3 42. Carson Palmer QB CIN 4.08.20 2.02 6.07 22.61 5 43. Tatum Bell RB DEN 4.08.50 2.09 6.01 17.52 4 44. Plaxico Burress WR NYG 5.01.75 3.10 5.10 10.78 4 45. Chester Taylor RB BAL 5.02.50 3.08 6.02 12.92 4 46. Tony Gonzalez TE KCC 5.03.25 4.07 5.10 06.40 4 47. Jeremy Shockey TE NYG 5.04.25 4.10 5.11 05.85 4 48. Chris Brown RB TEN 5.08.67 4.12 6.10 11.72 3 Round # cinco

49. Dominic Rhodes RB IND 5.09.75 5.03 6.03 05.12 4 50. Tom Brady QB NEP 6.02.75 5.09 6.08 05.56 4 51. Trent Green QB KCC 6.05.67 5.11 7.04 09.07 3 52. Matt Hasselbeck QB SEA 6.06.25 5.03 7.01 10.44 4 53. Todd Heap TE BAL 6.09.25 5.03 8.01 14.01 4 54. Alge Crumpler TE ATL 6.09.75 6.01 8.01 10.69 4 55. Deion Branch WR NEP 7.02.00 6.03 7.12 09.06 4 56. TJ Houshmandzadeh WR CIN 7.03.75 6.06 7.11 07.09 4 57. Jason Witten TE DAL 7.04.00 5.10 8.06 13.66 4 58. Chris Cooley TE WAS 7.05.33 6.06 8.02 10.26 3 59. Joey Galloway WR TBB 7.06.00 4.02 10.12 33.98 4 60. Eli Manning QB NYG 7.06.25 5.12 8.10 15.59 4Eli #60 could be super value. Heap over Witten and Cooley?Round # seis

61. Lee Evans WR BUF 7.07.50 5.08 9.01 17.14 4 62. Rod Smith WR DEN 7.09.50 6.06 9.07 15.63 4 63. Jake Delhomme QB CAR 7.09.50 6.12 8.04 07.51 4 64. Derrick Mason WR BAL 7.11.25 6.04 10.04 20.35 4 65. Randy McMichael TE MIA 7.12.67 7.01 8.11 11.06 3 66. Eric Moulds WR BUF 8.05.00 6.10 9.04 16.52 3 67. Frank Gore RB SFO 8.06.33 7.02 9.06 14.57 3 68. Muhsin Muhammad WR CHI 8.08.25 6.12 10.03 16.68 4 69. Kurt Warner QB ARI 8.09.25 8.05 9.03 04.65 4 70. Eddie Kennison WR KCC 8.11.67 7.10 10.02 14.01 3 71. Drew Bledsoe QB DAL 8.11.75 4.10 11.12 36.79 4 72. Donte' Stallworth WR NOS 8.12.33 8.06 9.05 05.69 3Ah, round 6, the beginning of my favorite part of the draft. Rod Smith is looking super solid in the 6th. Bledsoe + TO + 6th round is hard to pass up. Derrick Mason is looking good here too.Round 7

73. Jake Plummer QB DEN 9.04.00 8.09 10.07 10.10 4 74. Chris Perry RB CIN 9.06.00 9.02 10.04 06.73 4 75. Sam Gado RB GBP 9.07.33 7.11 11.11 24.83 3 76. Drew Brees QB SDC 9.08.50 8.01 10.11 14.18 4 77. Chicago Bears DT CHI 9.10.25 7.03 12.03 24.54 4 78. Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT 9.11.00 9.05 10.08 06.38 4 79. Travis Henry RB TEN 10.05.00 7.11 14.03 40.45 3 80. David Carr QB HOU 10.08.67 9.04 12.10 22.30 3 81. Terry Glenn WR DAL 10.08.67 9.07 11.04 11.85 3 82. Aaron Brooks QB NOS 10.09.50 8.04 12.09 22.55 4 83. Jerramy Stevens TE SEA 10.10.67 10.02 11.05 07.77 3 84. Brandon Lloyd WR SFO 11.02.50 9.02 13.07 22.40 4David Carr seems real high, as does Brandon Lloyd. Liking all the other QBs here though.Round 8

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85.      Braylon	Edwards	WR	CLE	11.04.33    10.01  12.11  17.24	3       86.      T.J.	Duckett	RB	ATL	11.04.67    8.08  13.04  29.14	3       87.      Mike	Anderson	RB	DEN	11.06.25    8.09  13.12  26.12	4       88.      David	Givens	WR	NEP	11.06.50    8.07  14.11  31.43	4       89.      Keyshawn	Johnson	WR	DAL	11.06.67    9.08  12.12  20.53	3       90.      Keenan	McCardell	WR	SDC	11.08.00    10.06  12.09  13.53	3       91.      Adam	Vinatieri	PK	NEP	11.09.00    10.01  13.01  18.33	3       92.      Koren	Robinson	WR	MIN	12.02.25    8.10  16.12  41.84	4       93.      Pittsburgh	Steelers	DT	PIT	12.03.33    10.12  14.09  25.70	3       94.      Antonio	Bryant	WR	CLE	12.08.00    10.10  14.06  22.00	3       95.      Carolina	Panthers	DT	CAR	13.06.33    11.07  16.12  36.17	3       96.      Baltimore	Ravens	DT	BAL	13.06.75    11.02  15.03  20.60	4
McCardell looks like solid value here. I can't shake the good feeling I have about K-Rob either. Braylon looks high here coming off an ACL injury. Lots of potential with him though IMO. He was having a nice rookie season.
 
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I'm getting giddy!!! Amazingly not too many surprises at face value. My initial impressions at the early end of the draft are that:

a) Deuce M. is overvalued

b) Gates is undervalued

c) Owens will again be a steal (for as long as he plays)

d) Moss that high = Brooks should be higher = Moss is healthy'ish

e) drafting from the #1 spot = LT, Fitz, K. Jones :eek:

f) round three has a ton of talent in it

g) Round 4 starts the "upside guys" area

At the middle of the draft (rounds 5 to 8)

a) Soo many qb's available it isn't even funny

b) Rounds 6 to 7 is when the quality WR2 prospects fall

c) If you don't have a TE by round 8, there is little talent left

d) There is still good value in round 8, esp. if K's and D's are starting to go!

Thanks for posting this. It's kind of like the day Santa arrives at the mall. You know the big days coming, but there's alot of anxious days ahead.

 
Round # uno

 1.      LaDainian Tomlinson RB SDC  1.01.33      1.01    1.02  00.52  6       2.      Larry Johnson RB KCC 1.01.60    1.01  1.02  00.55 5       3.      Shaun Alexander RB SEA 1.02.75    1.02  1.03  00.50 4       4.      Tiki Barber RB NYG 1.05.80    1.04  1.09  02.49 5       5.      Edgerrin James RB IND 1.06.40    1.04  1.09  01.95 5       6.      Clinton Portis RB WAS 1.06.40    1.04  1.08  01.67 5       7.      LaMont Jordan RB OAK 1.07.80    1.05  1.10  02.28 5       8.      Rudi Johnson RB CIN 1.09.40    1.06  1.12  02.70 5       9.      Steven Jackson RB STL 1.11.60    1.09  2.05  03.71 5       10.      Peyton Manning QB IND 1.12.50    1.06  2.11  06.57 6       11.      Steve Smith WR CAR 2.02.20    1.07  2.12  07.66 5       12.      Willis McGahee RB BUF 2.03.00    1.05  2.11  07.44 4      As expected, Steve Smith is the early favorite for #1 WR off the board.  Surprised to see Willis still ranking strong at #12 and Manning still at #10.Round # dos

13.      Deuce McAllister RB NOS 2.03.33    1.12  2.05  02.89 3       14.      Brian Westbrook RB PHI 2.04.20    1.12  2.09  03.49 5       15.      Julius Jones RB DAL 2.04.83    1.11  2.11  04.54 6       16.      Carnell Williams RB TBB 2.06.25    1.11  3.07  09.22 4       17.      Randy Moss WR OAK 2.06.25    2.01  2.10  04.11 4       18.      Terrell Owens WR PHI 2.06.40    2.03  2.11  02.88 5       19.      Torry Holt WR STL 2.07.50    2.03  3.01  04.20 4       20.      Corey Dillon RB NEP 2.08.67    2.03  3.06  08.14 3       21.      Marvin Harrison WR IND 2.09.83    2.01  3.02  06.11 6       22.      Chad Johnson WR CIN 2.10.00    2.07  2.12  02.12 5       23.      Ronnie Brown RB MIA 2.10.60    2.01  4.12  14.42 5       24.      Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI 3.03.00    2.09  3.11  05.89 4Deuce going early and very surprised to see Fitz at only #24.  He will be an early 2nd rounder come August IMO.Round # tres

25.      Kevin Jones RB DET 3.03.33    2.07  4.03  10.41 3       26.      Jamal Lewis RB BAL 3.04.67    2.10  3.09  05.86 3       27.      Reggie Wayne WR IND 3.07.50    3.01  4.04  06.35 4       28.      Anquan Boldin WR ARI 3.07.75    3.02  4.06  07.32 4       29.      Hines Ward WR PIT 3.08.75    3.05  4.02  03.86 4       30.      Chris Chambers WR MIA 3.10.00    3.04  4.08  07.12 4       31.      Willie Parker RB PIT 3.10.80    2.07  5.01  11.01 5       32.      Antonio Gates TE SDC 3.11.00    3.04  5.02  10.23 4       33.      DeShaun Foster RB CAR 4.01.75    3.03  4.09  08.85 4       34.      Warrick Dunn RB ATL 4.02.75    3.12  4.06  03.20 4       35.      Reuben Droughns RB CLE 4.03.25    2.10  4.11  11.70 4       36.      Darrell Jackson WR SEA 4.03.50    3.11  4.12  05.80 4  Parker @31 is looking like very good value as it stands right now.  We'll see how the draft shakes out for Pitt.Round # quatro

    37.      Thomas Jones RB CHI 4.03.75    3.04  5.07  12.23 4       38.      Santana Moss WR WAS 4.05.75    3.11  4.11  06.18 4       39.      Joe Horn WR NOS 4.06.00    3.11  4.11  05.03 4       40.      Andre Johnson WR HOU 4.07.67    4.01  5.01  06.11 3       41.      Roy Williams WR DET 4.08.00    4.03  5.05  07.81 3       42.      Carson Palmer QB CIN 4.08.20    2.02  6.07  22.61 5       43.      Tatum Bell RB DEN 4.08.50    2.09  6.01  17.52 4       44.      Plaxico Burress WR NYG 5.01.75    3.10  5.10  10.78 4       45.      Chester Taylor RB BAL 5.02.50    3.08  6.02  12.92 4       46.      Tony Gonzalez TE KCC 5.03.25    4.07  5.10  06.40 4       47.      Jeremy Shockey TE NYG 5.04.25    4.10  5.11  05.85 4       48.      Chris Brown RB TEN 5.08.67    4.12  6.10  11.72 3     Round # cinco

49.      Dominic Rhodes RB IND 5.09.75    5.03  6.03  05.12 4       50.      Tom Brady QB NEP 6.02.75    5.09  6.08  05.56 4       51.      Trent Green QB KCC 6.05.67    5.11  7.04  09.07 3       52.      Matt Hasselbeck QB SEA 6.06.25    5.03  7.01  10.44 4       53.      Todd Heap TE BAL 6.09.25    5.03  8.01  14.01 4       54.      Alge Crumpler TE ATL 6.09.75    6.01  8.01  10.69 4       55.      Deion Branch WR NEP 7.02.00    6.03  7.12  09.06 4       56.      TJ Houshmandzadeh WR CIN 7.03.75    6.06  7.11  07.09 4       57.      Jason Witten TE DAL 7.04.00    5.10  8.06  13.66 4       58.      Chris Cooley TE WAS 7.05.33    6.06  8.02  10.26 3       59.      Joey Galloway WR TBB 7.06.00    4.02  10.12  33.98 4       60.      Eli Manning QB NYG 7.06.25    5.12  8.10  15.59 4    Eli #60 could be super value.  Heap over Witten and Cooley?Round # seis

  61.      Lee Evans WR BUF 7.07.50    5.08  9.01  17.14 4       62.      Rod Smith WR DEN 7.09.50    6.06  9.07  15.63 4       63.      Jake Delhomme QB CAR 7.09.50    6.12  8.04  07.51 4       64.      Derrick Mason WR BAL 7.11.25    6.04  10.04  20.35 4       65.      Randy McMichael TE MIA 7.12.67    7.01  8.11  11.06 3       66.      Eric Moulds WR BUF 8.05.00    6.10  9.04  16.52 3       67.      Frank Gore RB SFO 8.06.33    7.02  9.06  14.57 3       68.      Muhsin Muhammad WR CHI 8.08.25    6.12  10.03  16.68 4       69.      Kurt Warner QB ARI 8.09.25    8.05  9.03  04.65 4       70.      Eddie Kennison WR KCC 8.11.67    7.10  10.02  14.01 3       71.      Drew Bledsoe QB DAL 8.11.75    4.10  11.12  36.79 4       72.      Donte' Stallworth WR NOS 8.12.33    8.06  9.05  05.69 3      Ah, round 6, the beginning of my favorite part of the draft.  Rod Smith is looking super solid in the 6th.  Bledsoe + TO + 6th round is hard to pass up.  Derrick Mason is looking good here too.Round 7

73.      Jake Plummer QB DEN 9.04.00    8.09  10.07  10.10 4       74.      Chris Perry RB CIN 9.06.00    9.02  10.04  06.73 4       75.      Sam Gado RB GBP 9.07.33    7.11  11.11  24.83 3       76.      Drew Brees QB SDC 9.08.50    8.01  10.11  14.18 4       77.      Chicago Bears DT CHI 9.10.25    7.03  12.03  24.54 4       78.      Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT 9.11.00    9.05  10.08  06.38 4       79.      Travis Henry RB TEN 10.05.00    7.11  14.03  40.45 3       80.      David Carr QB HOU 10.08.67    9.04  12.10  22.30 3       81.      Terry Glenn WR DAL 10.08.67    9.07  11.04  11.85 3       82.      Aaron Brooks QB NOS 10.09.50    8.04  12.09  22.55 4       83.      Jerramy Stevens TE SEA 10.10.67    10.02  11.05  07.77 3       84.      Brandon Lloyd WR SFO 11.02.50    9.02  13.07  22.40 4  David Carr seems real high, as does Brandon Lloyd.  Liking all the other QBs here though.Round 8

  85.      Braylon Edwards WR CLE 11.04.33    10.01  12.11  17.24 3       86.      T.J. Duckett RB ATL 11.04.67    8.08  13.04  29.14 3       87.      Mike Anderson RB DEN 11.06.25    8.09  13.12  26.12 4       88.      David Givens WR NEP 11.06.50    8.07  14.11  31.43 4       89.      Keyshawn Johnson WR DAL 11.06.67    9.08  12.12  20.53 3       90.      Keenan McCardell WR SDC 11.08.00    10.06  12.09  13.53 3       91.      Adam Vinatieri PK NEP 11.09.00    10.01  13.01  18.33 3       92.      Koren Robinson WR MIN 12.02.25    8.10  16.12  41.84 4       93.      Pittsburgh Steelers DT PIT 12.03.33    10.12  14.09  25.70 3       94.      Antonio Bryant WR CLE 12.08.00    10.10  14.06  22.00 3       95.      Carolina Panthers DT CAR 13.06.33    11.07  16.12  36.17 3       96.      Baltimore Ravens DT BAL 13.06.75    11.02  15.03  20.60 4      McCardell looks like solid value here.  I can't shake the good feeling I have about K-Rob either.  Braylon looks high here coming off an ACL injury.  Lots of potential with him though IMO.  He was having a nice rookie season.
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Antsports? :confused: Are you serious? :confused: The same site where they take compilations from hundreds of mock drafts that hardly ever get completed, or people lose interest after the first round and start making "stupid" picks, or "kids" get on there and just pick up players they've heard of. Thanks for taking the time to post this info, but I'm just giving everyone else a little more info behind where they get these results from. Me personally, I think Antsports is a joke. :nerd:

 
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Antsports? :confused: Are you serious? :confused: The same site where they take compilations from hundreds of mock drafts that hardly ever get completed, or people lose interest after the first round and start making "stupid" picks, or "kids" get on there and just pick up players they've heard of. Thanks for taking the time to post this info, but I'm just giving everyone else a little more info behind where they get these results from. Me personally, I think Antsports is a joke. :nerd:
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Most of us here are 110% aware of the shortcomings in Antsports mocks. However, there is still plenty of value in looking into the results of these drafts. Thanks for posting, KRS.One question...am I just not seeing Culpepper in the list? I know the injury wasn't pretty, he'll be lucky to start the season, etc...but I still would expect him to be drafted within the first 8 rounds. Hmm.
 
Antsports? :confused: Are you serious? :confused:

The same site where they take compilations from hundreds of mock drafts that hardly ever get completed, or people lose interest after the first round and start making "stupid" picks, or "kids" get on there and just pick up players they've heard of. Thanks for taking the time to post this info, but I'm just giving everyone else a little more info behind where they get these results from. Me personally, I think Antsports is a joke. :nerd:
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I believe they take their averages from Serious mock drafts and only one's that were completed... Not the one's where kids play and don't finish....I think it's a pretty good tool and a good discussion unless you see some glaring problems with player rankings?

 
Round # uno

1. LaDainian Tomlinson RB SDC 1.01.33 1.01 1.02 00.52 6 2. Larry Johnson RB KCC 1.01.60 1.01 1.02 00.55 5 3. Shaun Alexander RB SEA 1.02.75 1.02 1.03 00.50 4 4. Tiki Barber RB NYG 1.05.80 1.04 1.09 02.49 5 5. Edgerrin James RB IND 1.06.40 1.04 1.09 01.95 5 6. Clinton Portis RB WAS 1.06.40 1.04 1.08 01.67 5 7. LaMont Jordan RB OAK 1.07.80 1.05 1.10 02.28 5 8. Rudi Johnson RB CIN 1.09.40 1.06 1.12 02.70 5 9. Steven Jackson RB STL 1.11.60 1.09 2.05 03.71 5 10. Peyton Manning QB IND 1.12.50 1.06 2.11 06.57 6 11. Steve Smith WR CAR 2.02.20 1.07 2.12 07.66 5 12. Willis McGahee RB BUF 2.03.00 1.05 2.11 07.44 4As expected, Steve Smith is the early favorite for #1 WR off the board. Surprised to see Willis still ranking strong at #12 and Manning still at #10.Round # dos

13. Deuce McAllister RB NOS 2.03.33 1.12 2.05 02.89 3 14. Brian Westbrook RB PHI 2.04.20 1.12 2.09 03.49 5 15. Julius Jones RB DAL 2.04.83 1.11 2.11 04.54 6 16. Carnell Williams RB TBB 2.06.25 1.11 3.07 09.22 4 17. Randy Moss WR OAK 2.06.25 2.01 2.10 04.11 4 18. Terrell Owens WR PHI 2.06.40 2.03 2.11 02.88 5 19. Torry Holt WR STL 2.07.50 2.03 3.01 04.20 4 20. Corey Dillon RB NEP 2.08.67 2.03 3.06 08.14 3 21. Marvin Harrison WR IND 2.09.83 2.01 3.02 06.11 6 22. Chad Johnson WR CIN 2.10.00 2.07 2.12 02.12 5 23. Ronnie Brown RB MIA 2.10.60 2.01 4.12 14.42 5 24. Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI 3.03.00 2.09 3.11 05.89 4Deuce going early and very surprised to see Fitz at only #24. He will be an early 2nd rounder come August IMO.Round # tres

25. Kevin Jones RB DET 3.03.33 2.07 4.03 10.41 3 26. Jamal Lewis RB BAL 3.04.67 2.10 3.09 05.86 3 27. Reggie Wayne WR IND 3.07.50 3.01 4.04 06.35 4 28. Anquan Boldin WR ARI 3.07.75 3.02 4.06 07.32 4 29. Hines Ward WR PIT 3.08.75 3.05 4.02 03.86 4 30. Chris Chambers WR MIA 3.10.00 3.04 4.08 07.12 4 31. Willie Parker RB PIT 3.10.80 2.07 5.01 11.01 5 32. Antonio Gates TE SDC 3.11.00 3.04 5.02 10.23 4 33. DeShaun Foster RB CAR 4.01.75 3.03 4.09 08.85 4 34. Warrick Dunn RB ATL 4.02.75 3.12 4.06 03.20 4 35. Reuben Droughns RB CLE 4.03.25 2.10 4.11 11.70 4 36. Darrell Jackson WR SEA 4.03.50 3.11 4.12 05.80 4Parker @31 is looking like very good value as it stands right now. We'll see how the draft shakes out for Pitt.Round # quatro

37. Thomas Jones RB CHI 4.03.75 3.04 5.07 12.23 4 38. Santana Moss WR WAS 4.05.75 3.11 4.11 06.18 4 39. Joe Horn WR NOS 4.06.00 3.11 4.11 05.03 4 40. Andre Johnson WR HOU 4.07.67 4.01 5.01 06.11 3 41. Roy Williams WR DET 4.08.00 4.03 5.05 07.81 3 42. Carson Palmer QB CIN 4.08.20 2.02 6.07 22.61 5 43. Tatum Bell RB DEN 4.08.50 2.09 6.01 17.52 4 44. Plaxico Burress WR NYG 5.01.75 3.10 5.10 10.78 4 45. Chester Taylor RB BAL 5.02.50 3.08 6.02 12.92 4 46. Tony Gonzalez TE KCC 5.03.25 4.07 5.10 06.40 4 47. Jeremy Shockey TE NYG 5.04.25 4.10 5.11 05.85 4 48. Chris Brown RB TEN 5.08.67 4.12 6.10 11.72 3 Round # cinco

49. Dominic Rhodes RB IND 5.09.75 5.03 6.03 05.12 4 50. Tom Brady QB NEP 6.02.75 5.09 6.08 05.56 4 51. Trent Green QB KCC 6.05.67 5.11 7.04 09.07 3 52. Matt Hasselbeck QB SEA 6.06.25 5.03 7.01 10.44 4 53. Todd Heap TE BAL 6.09.25 5.03 8.01 14.01 4 54. Alge Crumpler TE ATL 6.09.75 6.01 8.01 10.69 4 55. Deion Branch WR NEP 7.02.00 6.03 7.12 09.06 4 56. TJ Houshmandzadeh WR CIN 7.03.75 6.06 7.11 07.09 4 57. Jason Witten TE DAL 7.04.00 5.10 8.06 13.66 4 58. Chris Cooley TE WAS 7.05.33 6.06 8.02 10.26 3 59. Joey Galloway WR TBB 7.06.00 4.02 10.12 33.98 4 60. Eli Manning QB NYG 7.06.25 5.12 8.10 15.59 4Eli #60 could be super value. Heap over Witten and Cooley?Round # seis

61. Lee Evans WR BUF 7.07.50 5.08 9.01 17.14 4 62. Rod Smith WR DEN 7.09.50 6.06 9.07 15.63 4 63. Jake Delhomme QB CAR 7.09.50 6.12 8.04 07.51 4 64. Derrick Mason WR BAL 7.11.25 6.04 10.04 20.35 4 65. Randy McMichael TE MIA 7.12.67 7.01 8.11 11.06 3 66. Eric Moulds WR BUF 8.05.00 6.10 9.04 16.52 3 67. Frank Gore RB SFO 8.06.33 7.02 9.06 14.57 3 68. Muhsin Muhammad WR CHI 8.08.25 6.12 10.03 16.68 4 69. Kurt Warner QB ARI 8.09.25 8.05 9.03 04.65 4 70. Eddie Kennison WR KCC 8.11.67 7.10 10.02 14.01 3 71. Drew Bledsoe QB DAL 8.11.75 4.10 11.12 36.79 4 72. Donte' Stallworth WR NOS 8.12.33 8.06 9.05 05.69 3Ah, round 6, the beginning of my favorite part of the draft. Rod Smith is looking super solid in the 6th. Bledsoe + TO + 6th round is hard to pass up. Derrick Mason is looking good here too.Round 7

73. Jake Plummer QB DEN 9.04.00 8.09 10.07 10.10 4 74. Chris Perry RB CIN 9.06.00 9.02 10.04 06.73 4 75. Sam Gado RB GBP 9.07.33 7.11 11.11 24.83 3 76. Drew Brees QB SDC 9.08.50 8.01 10.11 14.18 4 77. Chicago Bears DT CHI 9.10.25 7.03 12.03 24.54 4 78. Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT 9.11.00 9.05 10.08 06.38 4 79. Travis Henry RB TEN 10.05.00 7.11 14.03 40.45 3 80. David Carr QB HOU 10.08.67 9.04 12.10 22.30 3 81. Terry Glenn WR DAL 10.08.67 9.07 11.04 11.85 3 82. Aaron Brooks QB NOS 10.09.50 8.04 12.09 22.55 4 83. Jerramy Stevens TE SEA 10.10.67 10.02 11.05 07.77 3 84. Brandon Lloyd WR SFO 11.02.50 9.02 13.07 22.40 4David Carr seems real high, as does Brandon Lloyd. Liking all the other QBs here though.Round 8

85. Braylon Edwards WR CLE 11.04.33 10.01 12.11 17.24 3 86. T.J. Duckett RB ATL 11.04.67 8.08 13.04 29.14 3 87. Mike Anderson RB DEN 11.06.25 8.09 13.12 26.12 4 88. David Givens WR NEP 11.06.50 8.07 14.11 31.43 4 89. Keyshawn Johnson WR DAL 11.06.67 9.08 12.12 20.53 3 90. Keenan McCardell WR SDC 11.08.00 10.06 12.09 13.53 3 91. Adam Vinatieri PK NEP 11.09.00 10.01 13.01 18.33 3 92. Koren Robinson WR MIN 12.02.25 8.10 16.12 41.84 4 93. Pittsburgh Steelers DT PIT 12.03.33 10.12 14.09 25.70 3 94. Antonio Bryant WR CLE 12.08.00 10.10 14.06 22.00 3 95. Carolina Panthers DT CAR 13.06.33 11.07 16.12 36.17 3 96. Baltimore Ravens DT BAL 13.06.75 11.02 15.03 20.60 4McCardell looks like solid value here. I can't shake the good feeling I have about K-Rob either. Braylon looks high here coming off an ACL injury. Lots of potential with him though IMO. He was having a nice rookie season.
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1) Larry Johnson is a wee bit overrated. The KC line is not as good this year as it was last year, and Herm Edwards is not going to score as many point as Dikc Vermeil. Johnson is quite talented, but #2 overall? I think I'd rather take Alexander.2) I love Steve Smith as much as the next guy, but he's a bit too fragile for me. No way I take him in the 1st round - if I have to take a WR, I'd be happier with Torry Holt at that spot.

3) Willis McGahee is still in the first round? In a 1ppr league? Westbrook should be in that spot, or perhaps even higher.

4) The first RB2 (13th RB overall) was taken at 2.03. The last RB2 (24th RB overall) was taken at 4.09. That RB was Chester Taylor, while 2.03 was Julius Jones. To me, the dropoff in talent from 2.03 to 4.09 at RB is relatively small. I think there's good value at WR in round 2.

5) Manning in round 1, Palmer in round 4, and no other QBs until round 6? This is why leagues need to move to 2QB. Anyway, I think Eli Manning is tremendously underrated - lower than Tom Brady and Trent Green. I'd love Eli in round 6, but I don't see Donovan McNabb or Daunte Culpepper on this list, which makes me doubt the whole thing - hell, I'll take both of them in round 9! It's also hard for me to imagine how anyone takes David Carr ahead of Aaron Brooks.

6) Guess word hasn't gotten out about Koren Robinson...

 
this pretty much shows the rb heavy drafts my re draft leagues are like each and every year. I would LOVE to take Manning or even Palmer early or a top line WR but to do that your opening yourself to be very weak at RB and with a late first pick in most my leagues if I don't stay on the RB follow the leader path I don't stand a chance. Last year I drafted my first QB in 12th round. (Brees) I dominaed the league with a 12th round QB and WITHOUT A TRUE wr 1 or 2 on team. Just shows how important RB'S ARE THEM FIRST 3 ROUNDS!

 
this pretty much shows the rb heavy drafts my re draft leagues are like each and every year. I would LOVE to take Manning or even Palmer early or a top line WR but to do that your opening yourself to be very weak at RB and with a late first pick in most my leagues if I don't stay on the RB follow the leader path I don't stand a chance. Last year I drafted my first QB in 12th round. (Brees) I dominaed the league with a 12th round QB and WITHOUT A TRUE wr 1 or 2 on team. Just shows how important RB'S ARE THEM FIRST 3 ROUNDS!
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The reason you dominated was because Brees outperformed his draft position tremendously.
 
I agree that AntSports mocks can be frustrating...but I do participate in them, if only to be a part of the ADP. The number of mocks running right now is low, but I do have early results from three that I'm currently in. They're all 10-team leagues, and I kept drafting the same players...

Am I overvaluing these players? Are they consistently being undervalued by my opponents? Or are they just not in AntSports' "Top 32" positional menu, so my opponents don't realize they're still available?

I drafted E.Manning in 3 out of 3 leagues in the 8th and 9th rounds.

I drafted D.Bledsoe in 2 out of 3 leagues in the 10th round.

I drafted B.Westbrook in 2 out of 3 leagues in the 2nd round.

I drafted W.Parker in 3 out of 3 leagues in the 3rd round.

I drafted D.Rhodes in 2 out of 3 leagues in the 5th and 6th rounds.

I drafted R.Dayne in 2 out of 3 leagues in the 12th and 13th rounds.

I drafted S.Moss in 2 out of 3 leagues in the 4th and 6th rounds.

I drafted J.Galloway in 3 out of 3 leagues in the 5th, 6th, and 7th rounds.

I drafted K.McCardell in 2 out of 3 leagues in the 11th and 12th rounds.

MY TEAM(s) -- 10 Team Leagues

QB:

T.Green (8.09)

E.Manning (8.09)(9.02)(9.07)

D.Bledsoe (10.04)(10.09)

A.Brooks (11.02)

J.Plummer (11.07)

RB:

L.Johnson (1.02)

L.Tomlinson (1.02)

T.Barber (1.07)

B.Westbrook (2.04)(2.09)

W.Parker (3.02)(3.02)(3.07)

R.Brown (4.09)

C.Williams (5.02)

D.Rhodes (5.02)(6.04)

R.Dayne (12.04)(13.02)

WR:

T.Holt (2.09)

S.Moss (4.04)(6.09)

P.Burress (4.09)

J.Galloway (5.07)(6.09)(7.02)

D.Driver (7.02)

D.Branch (7.07)

J.Smith (8.04)

L.Evans (10.09)

K.McCardell (11.02)(12.09)

E.Kennison (16.04)

TE:

J.Witten (9.02)

J.Stevens (13.07)

 
Am I overvaluing these players? Are they consistently being undervalued by my opponents? Or are they just not in AntSports' "Top 32" positional menu, so my opponents don't realize they're still available?

I drafted E.Manning in 3 out of 3 leagues in the 8th and 9th rounds.

I drafted B.Westbrook in 2 out of 3 leagues in the 2nd round.

I drafted W.Parker in 3 out of 3 leagues in the 3rd round.

I drafted J.Galloway in 3 out of 3 leagues in the 5th, 6th, and 7th rounds.
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I would not take Manning in a 12 team league that early. You are overvaluing him.Westbrook is undervalued.

Parker is about right, I would grab him there.

Galloway I am unsure of right now.

 
this pretty much shows the rb heavy drafts my re draft leagues are like each and every year. I would LOVE to take Manning or even Palmer early or a top line WR but to do that your opening yourself to be very weak at RB and with a late first pick in most my leagues if I don't stay on the RB follow the leader path I don't stand a chance. Last year I drafted my first QB in 12th round. (Brees) I dominaed the league with a 12th round QB and WITHOUT A TRUE wr 1 or 2 on team. Just shows how important RB'S ARE THEM FIRST 3 ROUNDS!
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Yeah, and last year I played in a 2QB league where I didn't draft an RB until the 5th round, and ended up with Mike Anderson, Fred Taylor, and Chris Brown. Ended up winning the league after I traded Marvin Harrison and Trent Dilfer for Drew Brees and Larry Johnson. Priest Holmes was done for the season a day or two later, and I went to the Superbowl. You have to know your league, but the truth is that you usually win your league based on hitting big in the middle and later rounds, and you often lose your league when your early round picks bust or get injured.
 
this pretty much shows the rb heavy drafts my re draft leagues are like each and every year. I would LOVE to take Manning or even Palmer early or a top line WR but to do that your opening yourself to be very weak at RB and with a late first pick in most my leagues if I don't stay on the RB follow the leader path I don't stand a chance. Last year I drafted my first QB in 12th round. (Brees) I dominaed the league with a 12th round QB and WITHOUT A TRUE wr 1 or 2 on team. Just shows how important RB'S ARE THEM FIRST 3 ROUNDS!
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Yeah, and last year I played in a 2QB league where I didn't draft an RB until the 5th round, and ended up with Mike Anderson, Fred Taylor, and Chris Brown. Ended up winning the league after I traded Marvin Harrison and Trent Dilfer for Drew Brees and Larry Johnson. Priest Holmes was done for the season a day or two later, and I went to the Superbowl. You have to know your league, but the truth is that you usually win your league based on hitting big in the middle and later rounds, and you often lose your league when your early round picks bust or get injured.
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I have said often - you can't win your league in the first round but you can lose it.
 
Ronnie Brown at the end of the second is an absolute steal.

and please don't quote the whole first post, it takes forever to scroll down, TIA

 
Mr. Perennially Underrated Tiki Barber is for once, overrated. Although I wouldn't fault someone for taking him as early as 4th, I liked him a lot better the last few years when I could get him in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

 
Yeah, and last year I played in a 2QB league where I didn't draft an RB until the 5th round, and ended up with Mike Anderson, Fred Taylor, and Chris Brown. Ended up winning the league after I traded Marvin Harrison and Trent Dilfer for Drew Brees and Larry Johnson. Priest Holmes was done for the season a day or two later, and I went to the Superbowl.
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I'd say you won in large part because you stole that guy blind. Even before the Holmes injury there's no way I would've given up LJ and Brees for only Harrison (which is essentially what the trade was because you couldn't have believed Dilfer would be a viable option all season long). Horrible trade by that guy. Props to you for cashing in.
 
Mr. Perennially Underrated Tiki Barber is for once, overrated. Although I wouldn't fault someone for taking him as early as 4th, I liked him a lot better the last few years when I could get him in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
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Yea I wonder a lot about Barber. This will be the first year I've ever ranked him in the Top 10 and I worry about if I would take him among the Top 5 RBs (which is where I currently have him slotted) if this is the year he goes belly-up.
 
Antsports?  :confused:   Are you serious?  :confused:

The same site where they take compilations from hundreds of mock drafts that hardly ever get completed, or people lose interest after the first round and start making "stupid" picks, or "kids" get on there and just pick up players they've heard of.  Thanks for taking the time to post this info, but I'm just giving everyone else a little more info behind where they get these results from.  Me personally, I think Antsports is a joke.  :nerd:
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I believe they take their averages from Serious mock drafts and only one's that were completed... Not the one's where kids play and don't finish....I think it's a pretty good tool and a good discussion unless you see some glaring problems with player rankings?
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:goodposting: Computer picks are not included and Antsports does a very good job in projecting players once you have had a bunch of drafts in the database.

It is very useful to see where the school of fish is going.

Trust me Warpig, you aren't giving us any behind the scenes info we don't already know about.

 
Mr. Perennially Underrated Tiki Barber is for once, overrated. Although I wouldn't fault someone for taking him as early as 4th, I liked him a lot better the last few years when I could get him in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
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:goodposting: This is the year Barber disappoints.

Time to zag on Barber.

 
Mr. Perennially Underrated Tiki Barber is for once, overrated. Although I wouldn't fault someone for taking him as early as 4th, I liked him a lot better the last few years when I could get him in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
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Yea I wonder a lot about Barber. This will be the first year I've ever ranked him in the Top 10 and I worry about if I would take him among the Top 5 RBs (which is where I currently have him slotted) if this is the year he goes belly-up.
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:lmao: You are late to the party buddy.

 
Mr. Perennially Underrated Tiki Barber is for once, overrated. Although I wouldn't fault someone for taking him as early as 4th, I liked him a lot better the last few years when I could get him in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
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Yea I wonder a lot about Barber. This will be the first year I've ever ranked him in the Top 10 and I worry about if I would take him among the Top 5 RBs (which is where I currently have him slotted) if this is the year he goes belly-up.
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:lmao: You are late to the party buddy.
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Not sure I follow. If you're trying to say I should've ranked Barber higher in the past I agree although there's only been one year (last year) where I regret taking another RB ahead of him. In other years I've taken guys who may not have performed as well but performed well enough. If you're trying to say I'm not the first one to wonder about Barber possibly possibly being over-rated this season and under-achieving I have to think that was rather evident by the first sentence of my post that you quoted.
 
Any idea when this was compiled?

James and TO are still listed with there old teams.
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That's Antsports for ya. But as long as people find use in their mocks.
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You can sit here and complain about antsports mock drafts if you want to, but a lot of us are fiending for some real fantasy info and are tired of threads about what # Bush would wear in the pros and is Favre a tool for not retiring yet.I didn't say the ADPs were perfect, but they are perfect for getting discussion going on fantasy relevant matters for 2006 & beyond.

 
People who pass up on Clinton Portis for Tiki Barber will be disappointed this season. This is coming from a Cowboys fan too......I think Portis challenges LT and SA for the #2 spot behind LJ.

Why?

Portis has had a lot of success without a great offensive coordinator. This season he will be better.

I see a big drop off from Alexander. He got his fat check, he got to go to the Super Bowl. Wouldn't be shocked to see an ill timed injury or just a lack of effort.

LT will still put up numbers but I wonder what effect Phillip Rivers will have on his production. Not saying LT wont be great as usual but a slight dropoff wouldn't be out of the question, especially early on when teams flood the box with 8 man fronts, hell they might even have the mascott on the line to blitz Rivers.

 
On a similar note, here is the ADP from the early football drafts held at Mock Draft Central.............

Shaun Alexander

2.1 Larry Johnson 0.02

3.1 Ladainian Tomlinson 0.01

4.3 Tiki Barber 0.03

4.8 Clinton Portis -0.02

5.8 Rudi Johnson -0.01

7 Edgerrin James 0

8.2 Carnell Williams 0.02

9.4 Steve Smith 0.04

10.3 Willis McGahee 0.03

10.8 Lamont Jordan -0.02

12.6 Ronnie Brown 0.06

13.3 Steven Jackson 0.03

14.1 Peyton Manning -0.19

14.6 Chad Johnson 0.06

15.3 Marvin Harrison 0.03

17.6 Domanick Davis 0.06

18.2 Terrell Owens -0.08

18.3 Reggie Bush 0.03

20.5 Hines Ward 0

20.9 Thomas Jones -0.1

21.2 Kevin Jones 0.02

24.1 Torry Holt -0.49

24.3 Julius Jones 0.13

24.9 Antonio Gates -0.51

25.5 Warrick Dunn 0.15

27.1 Brian Westbrook 0.21

27.4 Randy Moss -0.31

29.2 Anquan Boldin -0.68

30.6 Fred Taylor 0.43

30.9 Larry Fitzgerald -0.65

32.5 Corey Dillon 0.4

33.4 Deuce McAllister 0.34

35.1 Willie Parker 0.21

35.7 Chris Chambers -0.53

36.4 Santana Moss -0.58

38.1 Tatum Bell 0.41

38.3 Donovan McNabb -0.47

38.6 Jeremy Shockey -0.54

39.6 Darrell Jackson -0.54

39.8 DeShaun Foster 0.48

41.6 Jamal Lewis 0.56

42 Tom Brady -0.4

44.1 Matt Hasselbeck -0.39

44.4 Chris Brown 0.64

46.2 Tony Gonzalez -0.38

47.1 Reuben Droughns 0.76

48.1 Ahman Green 0.81

48.8 Reggie Wayne -0.32

49.8 Plaxico Burress -0.62

50.7 Curtis Martin 0.77

52.9 Joey Galloway -0.36

54.1 Trent Green -0.09

54.6 Dominic Rhodes 1.03

55.1 Alge Crumpler -0.09

55.3 Chester Taylor 0.57

57.4 Donald Driver -0.43

58.6 Daunte Culpepper 0.18

60.2 Rod Smith -0.08

60.8 Chris Cooley -0.12

61 Priest Holmes 1

61.3 Todd Heap -0.17

62.5 T.J. Houshmandzadeh 0

64.1 Frank Gore 0.41

65.1 Derrick Mason 0.01

67.3 Michael Vick -0.67

67.9 Drew Bennett 0.09

68.4 Randy McMichael -0.56

70.1 Eddie Kennison 0.21

71.9 Marc Bulger -0.4

72 Chicago Bears -0.6

72.5 Keenan McCardell 0.2

72.9 Mike Anderson 0.43

74.7 Donte Stallworth 0.24

76.2 Cedric Benson 0.11

76.2 Drew Bledsoe -0.59

76.8 Travis Henry 0.24

77.1 Joe Horn 0.26

78.1 DeAngelo Williams 0.3

81.5 Marion Barber 0.4

82.4 Kevan Barlow 0.48

83.3 Indianapolis Colts -0.77

85.2 Samkon Gado 0.62

85.9 Terry Glenn 0.09

85.9 Carson Palmer -0.61

86.1 Pittsburgh Steelers -0.86

86.5 T.J. Duckett 0.35

87.9 Reggie Brown 1.14

88.9 Jimmy Smith 0.33

89.6 Andre Johnson -0.02

89.8 Deion Branch 0.29

90 Eli Manning -0.1

91.4 Jerry Porter 0.24

92.5 Jake Delhomme -0.15

93.7 Adam Vinatieri -0.73

94.2 Jason Witten -1.08

95 Mike Vanderjagt -0.7

95.9 Roy Williams -0.04

96.6 Mewelde Moore 0.54

96.7 Javon Walker -0.06

96.9 L.J. Smith -1

97.2 Ben Roethlisberger 0.11

103.4 Drew Brees 0.4

104.5 Chris Perry 0.55

104.5 Keyshawn Johnson 0.05

105.1 Heath Miller -0.4

106.1 Michael Pittman 0.41

107 Laveranues Coles 0

109.8 Michael Bennett 0.28

110 Eric Moulds -0.12

110.4 Muhsin Muhammad -0.16

110.8 J.J. Arrington 0.38

112.6 Lee Evans -0.13

113.4 Jake Plummer -0.56

114.7 Marcel Shipp 0.57

115.3 Kurt Warner -0.49

115.7 Antonio Bryant 0.03

115.7 Vernon Davis -0.87

117.5 Koren Robinson 0.41

120 Carolina Panthers -1.5

121.8 Greg Jones 0.19

122 Ladell Betts 0.1

122.4 Chad Jackson 0.09

122.9 Joe Jurevicius -0.31

123.5 Neil Rackers -1.4

124 Brandon Jacobs 0.1

125.2 Eric Shelton 0.15

126.6 Mark Brunell -0.3

126.8 Seattle Seahawks -1.2

127 Lee Suggs 0.2

127.8 Shayne Graham -1.36

128.1 Antwaan Randle El 0.12

130.4 Dallas Cowboys -1.01

130.7 Steve McNair 0.07

130.9 Vince Young -0.01

131 Bobby Engram 0.4

133.4 Matt Leinart 0.18

134.2 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -1.57

135.3 Dallas Clark -0.37

135.8 Josh Brown -0.82

136 Byron Leftwich 0.3

138.5 Brett Favre 0.35

140.2 Ben Watson 0.01

141.5 Jermaine Wiggins -0.05

142 Ron Dayne -32.45

142.2 Washington Redskins -1.44

142.6 Santonio Holmes 0.58

142.7 David Akers -1.06

145.9 Leonard Pope 0.27

146.8 Isaac Bruce -0.6

148.5 Philip Rivers 0.12

149 Jay Cutler 0.1

149.1 Ashley Lelie -0.29

150 Duce Staley -0.1

151.6 Aaron Brooks -2.58

154.4 Stephen Davis 0.48

154.8 New York Giants -1.11

154.8 Laurence Maroney -0.31

157.1 Kevin Curtis 0.21

157.2 Ciatrick Fason 0.62

 
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Mr. Perennially Underrated Tiki Barber is for once, overrated. Although I wouldn't fault someone for taking him as early as 4th, I liked him a lot better the last few years when I could get him in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
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Yea I wonder a lot about Barber. This will be the first year I've ever ranked him in the Top 10 and I worry about if I would take him among the Top 5 RBs (which is where I currently have him slotted) if this is the year he goes belly-up.
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:lmao: You are late to the party buddy.
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Not sure I follow. If you're trying to say I should've ranked Barber higher in the past I agree although there's only been one year (last year) where I regret taking another RB ahead of him. In other years I've taken guys who may not have performed as well but performed well enough. If you're trying to say I'm not the first one to wonder about Barber possibly possibly being over-rated this season and under-achieving I have to think that was rather evident by the first sentence of my post that you quoted.
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I was referring to the former, and the fact that I am typically one of the biggest Barber supporters who will now be hesitant to take him in the first round for the first time in a while and now people who typically would have been on the other side of the fence ranking him so high, are ranking him high when I am not big on him.I just thought it was funny.

;)

 
I would not take Manning in a 12 team league that early.  You are overvaluing him.
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The #4 QB from last year is overvalued in the 8th-9th round?
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Yes.
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So either you think Eli is going to drop a lot in the QB rankings, or you don't believe in taking a QB in the 8th-9th round.Why do you think whichever is true (or something else)?
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I think both are true. I think the Giants offense is going to take a step back and the earliest you should take a QB is the 9th. I have my reasoning for the latter in start 3 WR leagues where scarcity at more than just the RB position is evident.
 
Corey Dillon RB NEP 2.08.67 2.03 3.06 08.14 3 21. Marvin Harrison WR IND 2.09.83 2.01 3.02 06.11 6 22. Chad Johnson WR CIN 2.10.00 2.07 2.12 02.12 5 23. Ronnie Brown RB MIA 2.10.60 2.01 4.12 14.42 5 24. Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI
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dillon over these four guys is :eek: especially in 1 PPR
 
Round 1

1 LaDainian Tomlinson RB SDC2 Shaun Alexander RB SEA3 Larry Johnson RB KCC4 Clinton Portis RB WAS5 Tiki Barber RB NYG6 Edgerrin James RB IND7 LaMont Jordan RB OAK8 Rudi Johnson RB CIN9 Domanick Davis RB HOU10 Willis McGahee RB BUF11 Peyton Manning QB IND12 Deuce McAllister RB NOSRound 2
Code: 
13 Steven Jackson RB STL14 Steve Smith WR CAR15 Brian Westbrook RB PHI16 Julius Jones RB DAL17 Terrell Owens WR PHI18 Torry Holt WR STL19 Chad Johnson WR CIN20 Randy Moss WR OAK21 Carnell Williams RB TBB22 Marvin Harrison WR IND23 Kevin Jones RB DET24 Ronnie Brown RB MIA
Round 3
Code: 
25 Corey Dillon RB NEP26 Jamal Lewis RB BAL27 Antonio Gates TE SDC28 Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI29 Reggie Wayne WR IND30 Anquan Boldin WR ARI31 Ahman Green RB GBP32 Willie Parker RB PIT33 Hines Ward WR PIT34 Darrell Jackson WR SEA35 DeShaun Foster RB CAR36 Tatum Bell RB DEN
Round 4
Code: 
37 Santana Moss WR WAS38 Chris Chambers WR MIA39 Thomas Jones RB CHI40 Reuben Droughns RB CLE41 Andre Johnson WR HOU42 Warrick Dunn RB ATL43 Chester Taylor RB BAL44 Joe Horn WR NOS45 Carson Palmer QB CIN46 Donovan McNabb QB PHI47 Tony Gonzalez TE KCC48 Javon Walker WR GBP
Round 5
Code: 
49 Roy Williams WR DET50 Marc Bulger QB STL51 Tom Brady QB NEP52 Plaxico Burress WR NYG53 Jeremy Shockey TE NYG54 Chris Brown RB TEN55 Matt Hasselbeck QB SEA56 Curtis Martin RB NYJ57 Deion Branch WR NEP58 Jason Witten TE DAL59 Fred Taylor RB JAC60 Donald Driver WR GBP
Round 6
Code: 
61 Trent Green QB KCC62 Todd Heap TE BAL63 Alge Crumpler TE ATL64 Kevan Barlow RB SFO65 Eli Manning QB NYG66 TJ Houshmandzadeh WR CIN67 Dominic Rhodes RB IND68 Randy McMichael TE MIA69 Chris Cooley TE WAS70 Jimmy Smith WR JAC71 Derrick Mason WR BAL72 Michael Vick QB ATL
Round 7
Code: 
73 Jake Delhomme QB CAR74 Lee Evans WR BUF75 Joey Galloway WR TBB76 Travis Henry RB TEN77 Rod Smith WR DEN78 Frank Gore RB SFO79 L.J. Smith TE PHI80 Drew Bledsoe QB DAL81 Eric Moulds WR BUF82 Chicago Bears DT CHI83 Muhsin Muhammad WR CHI84 Jake Plummer QB DEN
Round 8
Code: 
85 Kurt Warner QB ARI86 Eddie Kennison WR KCC87 Drew Brees QB SDC88 Mewelde Moore RB MIN89 Donte' Stallworth WR NOS90 Mike Anderson RB DEN91 Byron Leftwich QB JAC92 Cedric Benson RB CHI93 Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT94 T.J. Duckett RB ATL95 Braylon Edwards WR CLE96 Pittsburgh Steelers DT PIT
Round 9
Code: 
97 Keyshawn Johnson WR DAL98 Ron Dayne RB DEN99 Chris Perry RB CIN100 Marion III Barber RB DAL101 Duce Staley RB PIT102 Steve McNair QB TEN103 David Carr QB HOU104 Aaron Brooks QB NOS105 Carolina Panthers DT CAR106 Brandon Lloyd WR SFO107 Adam Vinatieri PK NEP108 Koren Robinson WR MIN
Round 10
Code: 
109 Ricky Williams RB MIA110 Antonio Bryant WR CLE111 Heath Miller TE PIT112 Terry Glenn WR DAL113 Kellen Winslow TE CLE114 Joe Jurevicius WR SEA115 Najeh Davenport RB GBP116 Jerramy Stevens TE SEA117 David Givens WR NEP118 Lee Suggs RB CLE119 Atlanta Falcons DT ATL120 Neil Rackers PK ARI
Round 11
Code: 
121 Marcus Pollard TE DET122 Kevin Curtis WR STL123 Tampa Bay Buccaneers DT TBB124 Keenan McCardell WR SDC125 Mark Brunell QB WAS126 Ben Watson TE NEP127 Ben Troupe TE TEN128 Indianapolis Colts DT IND129 Baltimore Ravens DT BAL130 Jay Feely PK NYG131 Buffalo Bills DT BUF132 Reggie Brown WR PHI
Round 12
Code: 
133 Mike Vanderjagt PK IND134 New England Patriots DT NEP135 Washington Redskins DT WAS136 Michael Pittman RB TBB137 Shayne Graham PK CIN138 Jacksonville Jaguars DT JAC139 David Akers PK PHI140 Jason Elam PK DEN141 Jeff Wilkins PK STL
Will someone explain to me why Deuce is still a first rounder?

Call me crazy, but Jamal Lewis at #26 is a steal.

I expect huge changes in the ADP of Tatum Bell & DeShaun Foster by August.

No one has a problem with Phillip Rivers throwing to Gates apparently.

Here comes Ron Dayne at #98!

 
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Antsports?  :confused:   Are you serious?  :confused:

The same site where they take compilations from hundreds of mock drafts that hardly ever get completed, or people lose interest after the first round and start making "stupid" picks, or "kids" get on there and just pick up players they've heard of.  Thanks for taking the time to post this info, but I'm just giving everyone else a little more info behind where they get these results from.  Me personally, I think Antsports is a joke.  :nerd:
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I believe they take their averages from Serious mock drafts and only one's that were completed... Not the one's where kids play and don't finish....I think it's a pretty good tool and a good discussion unless you see some glaring problems with player rankings?

:goodposting: Agreed :goodposting:
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I don't get Edge at #6. I know he's very good but come on he's in Arizona. I'd be shocked if he was top 10 at the end of the year. I'll take whoever is in Indy (rookie or Rhodes) to beat his ?#'s this year.

 
Will someone explain to me why Deuce is still a first rounder?

Call me crazy, but Jamal Lewis at #26 is a steal.

I expect huge changes in the ADP of Tatum Bell & DeShaun Foster by August.

No one has a problem with Phillip Rivers throwing to Gates apparently.

Here comes Ron Dayne at #98!
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I'm really surprised to see DD in the first round. The guy gets injured a lot and with the Texans probably taking Reggie Bush I just can't imagine DD being a good first round pick. I'd probably stay away from him in the second round as well.And I agree about McAllister as well. The guy has had some injury concerns the past two seasons with the major ACL injury this past season. Add in a new QB, new HC and new OC and there's no way I'd take McAllister in the first round.

 
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