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Earnest Graham Production to take a Hit? (1 Viewer)

boneman_66

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Is anyone else concerned that Earnest Graham might be due for less fantasy production this week now that Pittman and Bennett are once again involved?

These are Graham's stats for the last 3 weeks:

Week 12: 21 of 21 RB carries, 75 of 75 RB yards, 1 of 1 rushing TD's

Week 13: 22 of 24 carries, 106 of 160 yards, 1/1 TD's

Week 14: 15 of 15 carries, 61 of 61 yards, 2 of 2 TD's

Week 15: 22 of 44 carries, 79 of 192 yards, 1 of 1 TD's

I don't know about other people, but if you have other viable RB options, I might look that way despite the favorable San Fran match up this week. Graham does get goal line carries, but Pittman has contributed significantly in every game that he's been healthy. He was also Gruden's first choice when Williams went down.

Graham helped me get to the Championship game this week, but I'm leaning towards going with ADP and S Jax due to concerns about Gruden getting Pittman more involved in the running game prior to playoffs.

 
He was ranked very high on the FBG projections.

I thought I saw someone also mention the RB's in SF tend to struggle.

I will do some research on that to see if the stats coincide.

Graham has lead me to a bowl, in a league where I was not a top 3 team, but I may sit him for the likes of MJD or KJones.

 
His numbers look bad last week because they rested him due to the blowout. When Graham was playing Pittman had a few carries for negative yardage. That game got out of hand pretty early and that's shy Pittman got the amount of touches he did. I wouldn't be worried one bit with MB though.

 
Week 15: 22 of 44 carries, 79 of 192 yards, 1 of 1 TD's
Week 15 was certainly skewed because it was 30-3 towards the end of the 3rd quarter. Graham saw his last action around the 3 minute mark in the 3rd Q, and here is what followed after he left the game...3rd-5, TB25 2:12 M. Pittman rushed to the left for 5 yard gain1st-10, TB30 1:24 M. Pittman rushed to the right for 7 yard gain2nd-3, TB37 0:40 M. Pittman rushed to the left for 2 yard gain1st-10, TB45 12:50 M. Bennett rushed to the right for 28 yard gain1st-10, ATL27 12:04 M. Bennett rushed up the middle for 11 yard gain1st-10, ATL16 11:20 M. Bennett rushed to the right for 6 yard gain2nd-4, ATL10 10:35 M. Bennett rushed up the middle for 2 yard gain3rd-2, ATL8 9:55 M. Bennett rushed to the right for 5 yard gain1st-3, ATL3 9:09 M. Bennett rushed up the middle for 2 yard gain2nd-1, ATL1 8:28 M. Pittman rushed up the middle for no gain1st-10, TB20 5:33 M. Pittman rushed up the middle for 2 yard gain2nd-8, TB22 4:50 M. Pittman rushed to the right for 17 yard gain1st-10, TB39 4:04 M. Bennett rushed up the middle for 5 yard gain2nd-5, TB44 3:20 M. Bennett rushed to the left for 1 yard gain3rd-4, TB45 2:35 M. Bennett rushed to the right for 3 yard gain4th-1, TB48 2:00 M. Pittman rushed up the middle for 2 yard gainSo 16 carries came after he left the game, and they totaled 98 yards. So perhaps a more telling statline for week 15 would be "While Graham was still involved/playing in the game":22 of 28 carries, 79 of 94 yards.I think this game will be more challenging for TB and SF does fare pretty well against the run at home (Bengals didn't do much, ADP was stuffed but Taylor had a long TD run, SJax put up about 90 yards, and McGahee put up 88 a little earlier this season). I think it's probably a good matchup for Graham, and wouldn't expect Pittman and Bennett to take away too much unless the game gets way out of hand. Graham also had 5 catches for 40 yards against ATL, so even with Pitttman's return he saw plenty of action in the passing game.
 
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is there anything else for TB to gain at this point, don't they already have everything they could get as far as position in the playoffs is concerned?

i cannot for the life of me make up my mind on E Graham this weekend, it's him or SJax, SJax or Graham, Graham or SJax...with MBIII starting as well, i can't figure it out

can anyone think of any time in the past where gruden sits rests his players...especially with capable backups

 
2and2is5 said:
is there anything else for TB to gain at this point, don't they already have everything they could get as far as position in the playoffs is concerned?i cannot for the life of me make up my mind on E Graham this weekend, it's him or SJax, SJax or Graham, Graham or SJax...with MBIII starting as well, i can't figure it outcan anyone think of any time in the past where gruden sits rests his players...especially with capable backups
The Bucs have clinched the NFC South and would be the fourth seed if the playoffs began today. They are tied with Seattle (9-4), which holds the tiebreaker, so there's still an outside shot the Bucs can improve their position in the playoffs.More importantly, the Bucs would like to build some momentum — especially on offense — in the final two games. Red-zone scoring has been an issue for Tampa Bay of late and Garcia looked rusty in his first game back from a lower-back contusion."There are always (goals). Let's be honest — we signed up for the regular season," Gruden said. "It's our responsibility as players and coaches to finish the season. We're excited about the opportunity of playing. We realize the circumstances are a little bit different than maybe they have been around here, and we'll try to use the best judgment that we can. At the same time, we don't have a lot of options. We don't have as many options, maybe, as people think. We certainly will consider everything and try to win the football game to the best of our ability."
 
He was ranked very high on the FBG projections.I thought I saw someone also mention the RB's in SF tend to struggle.I will do some research on that to see if the stats coincide.Graham has lead me to a bowl, in a league where I was not a top 3 team, but I may sit him for the likes of MJD or KJones.
Same boat between Graham, S Jax, Kolby Smith (sweet matchup), and K Jones (another sweet matchup). Probably go with the horses I rode to this pt.: Graham and S Jax.
 
Last week while Graham was still playing the announcers were constantly talking about how much Gruden loves the guy. The only reason the other guys got so many carries was because the game was out of hand. The Bucs still have something to play for...I think Graham gets most of the carries. He's the guy that got them where they are. Will there be a RB controversy next year when Caddie is healthy?? :football:

 
Yes, the Bucs have something to play for, but they still want to win playoff games and will be working Pittman and Bennett into the games so they can get back into the flow, I really feel that Graham will lose some carries this week and Pittman will be back in on third downs helping out often. I had Graham this week along with Jackson and started Jackson with Tomlinson. Every site I have looked out had Graham significantly higher in the rankings than Jackson, but I feel that Graham will be OK but not great, and you need great in the fantasy bowl

 
Yes, the Bucs have something to play for, but they still want to win playoff games and will be working Pittman and Bennett into the games so they can get back into the flow, I really feel that Graham will lose some carries this week and Pittman will be back in on third downs helping out often. I had Graham this week along with Jackson and started Jackson with Tomlinson. Every site I have looked out had Graham significantly higher in the rankings than Jackson, but I feel that Graham will be OK but not great, and you need great in the fantasy bowl
thats YOUR opinion......MY opinion is Graham will get his normal amount of carries and Pitt will spell him
 
Yes, the Bucs have something to play for, but they still want to win playoff games and will be working Pittman and Bennett into the games so they can get back into the flow, I really feel that Graham will lose some carries this week and Pittman will be back in on third downs helping out often. I had Graham this week along with Jackson and started Jackson with Tomlinson. Every site I have looked out had Graham significantly higher in the rankings than Jackson, but I feel that Graham will be OK but not great, and you need great in the fantasy bowl
thats YOUR opinion......MY opinion is Graham will get his normal amount of carries and Pitt will spell him
Yes it is my opinion!
 
Hmmm....I've got him in my lineup but am considering playing Grant instead...Chi is a good matchup for him...

 
Yes, the Bucs have something to play for, but they still want to win playoff games and will be working Pittman and Bennett into the games so they can get back into the flow, I really feel that Graham will lose some carries this week and Pittman will be back in on third downs helping out often. I had Graham this week along with Jackson and started Jackson with Tomlinson. Every site I have looked out had Graham significantly higher in the rankings than Jackson, but I feel that Graham will be OK but not great, and you need great in the fantasy bowl
thats YOUR opinion......MY opinion is Graham will get his normal amount of carries and Pitt will spell him
Yes it is my opinion!
Michael Pittman-RB- Buccaneers Dec. 20 - 6:20 pm et Michael Pittman (ankle) practiced without limits on Thursday.Pittman hasn't missed a beat in practice this week, but with as well as Earnest Graham continues to play, he's unlikely to see a big role Sunday. Michael Pittman-RB- Buccaneers Dec. 19 - 7:15 pm et Michael Pittman (ankle) returned to an unlimited practice Wednesday.Pittman took 13 carries and caught three passes in Week 15, good for his largest workload of 2007. That's unlikely to happen again this weekend. Fantasy Analysis Pittman carried the ball Week 15 for the first time since Week 11, also against the Falcons. Pittman has been bothered by an ankle injury since Week 5 and has missed six games as a result. Pittman is a backup to Graham and sees time on third down, but isn't a reliable Fantasy option. Consider using other options heading into Week 16.
 
Earnest fell into the same role Ladainian was reduced too after their respective teams dominated early. Earnest has Gruden's respect, that's all I need to know. Graham will be fresh and ready to play to the tune 0f 25 - 30 touches, if the game remains competitive. I think he only gives way for a breather here and there, unless it's another blowout, which in that case it is actually a good thing because Earnest probably went off.

 
Look at what RBs have done against SF the last two games when you take away Chester Taylor's 84 yard TD. I think projections could be skewed by those who aren't actually watching the game film. If you are playing this late in the season you are probably playing for a championship and if you have Graham he's been a big part of that. It's hard to sit him, but all things considered it could be the smart play depending on your options. I would follow the advice of someone who has great knowledge of the offensive and defensive lines of these teams based on film. There is going to be some mismatches there that clear up this picture, I think this is lost of guys doing projections based largely on statistical analysis. So the question is who is actually breaking down film on Tampa and SF and what do they think?

 
CLOSING IN ON 1,000: Bucs RB Earnest Graham may have been Tampa Bay's third choice, but he is close to proving why he is their best choice.

Graham can become the first player to rush for more than 1,000 yards since Cadillac Williams had 290 carries for 1,178 yards and six touchdowns in 2005.

So far, Graham has rushed 213 times for 877 yards and 10 touchdowns. He has set the team record for consecutive games with a TD (six), and his rushing yards total is sixth in the NFC.

"It couldn't happen to a better guy than Earnest Graham," Bucs C John Wade said. He's another hard-working guy, doesn't say much, doesn't need to say much. He just goes out there and performs.

"He's a great guy to go out there and fight with. We've got two weeks to get it done, so hopefully we can help him achieve that."

Graham is 123 yards short of 1,000 and should break that mark before the season ends, and he remains Tampa Bay's most pleasant surprise since Williams suffered a season-ending knee injury against Carolina on Sept. 30.

"It's obviously a great feat to get 1,000 yards," Bucs coach Jon Gruden said. "He's accomplished a lot of great things already for us. We're going to concentrate on winning games, and Earnest will have a lot say if we do or not."

:shark:

Remaining Games Are Still Important....

The Tampa Tribune

Published: December 21, 2007

TAMPA - The Bucs' game this weekend against San Francisco is not one many outside the Tampa Bay locker room can get excited about.

The Bucs are NFC South champions with two games remaining this season. Tampa Bay cannot finish any higher than third in the NFC, meaning the Bucs will host Round 1 of the playoffs and travel in the second round if they win.

Tampa Bay's game against San Francisco originally was slated to be a prime-time game, but was moved to late afternoon because it lacked anticipation. It is hard to get excited about a Jeff Garcia vs. Shaun Hill quarterback matchup.

Although Tampa Bay's game seems to lack meaning, Bucs players still believe this contest has importance.

"It's a matter of professionalism. It's a matter of pride, and more than anything, why not be excited?," Bucs DE Kevin Carter said. "We're going into the playoffs. Who wants to go into the playoffs on a low note and not playing your best football?

"One thing about the league and perception, perception is largely reality in this sport. It's important for us to go out and play good football. Right now we perceive ourselves as being able to beat anybody, and if we feel that way, we need to go out there and beat people. Superman doesn't fly in and conveniently lose because it doesn't make a difference trying to save the universe. No, he expects to win. That's what we have to go out there and do."

Tampa Bay is optimistic to fly into the playoffs on a winning streak. None of the players want to lose against San Francisco or Carolina before the postseason.

Instead, they are hoping to heat up heading into the postseason, and even this game does not hold national interest, Tampa Bay deems its San Francisco trip very important.

"We want to build some momentum going into the playoffs," Bucs DT Jovan Haye said. "We don't want to go in there 1-1 or on a two-game losing streak. You want momentum for later on in the time in December and January and fuel the fire for the playoffs."

:rant:

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers haven't won a game in San Francisco since 1980.

And that was the only time the Bucs left the other city by the bay with a victory.

Eleven times they've played at what is now called Monster Park. This week the Bucs (9-5) will see if they can improve on a dismal 1-10 road record against the 49ers (4-10) when the two teams face off Sunday.

:football:

 
Tough call for me too. I have been riding Graham through the playoffs, but I'm tempted to sit him AND LT2. Trying choose 3 of Grant, Jacobs, Stecker, and ADP (plus Graham and LT2) is driving me nuts. I'm seriously considering drawing straws at this point...

 
Tough call for me too. I have been riding Graham through the playoffs, but I'm tempted to sit him AND LT2. Trying choose 3 of Grant, Jacobs, Stecker, and ADP (plus Graham and LT2) is driving me nuts. I'm seriously considering drawing straws at this point...
DONT DO IT....i cant believe you would even THINK about sittin LT2....Graham maybe....ALWAYS - ALWAYS start your studs.Lt2---ADP---Grant would be my suggestion
 
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Good articles about Grahams' and team's desire to get him 1000 yards. I'm debating betwee him and McGahee and Graham would be the clear choice but for the risk of resting. I think I'm going with Graham and avoiding the Troy Smith-led Ravens.

 

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