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Easter Day terrorist attacks Sri Lanka (1 Viewer)

Da Guru said:
Correct but it will never stop. I will never understand what killing hundreds of innocent people accomplishes in the end.  Muslim terrorists bomb Christians on Easter Sunday..does that really help the muslim cause or hurt their people in the long run? 

A deranged man kills muslims in their place of worship..does that help whatever cause or hurt the cause?  Both are hurt.

As far as the outrage and coverage for some reason NZ got much more.  Nobody is really talking as much about this.  Maybe because half the people have no idea where Sri Lanka even is.
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Are you saying there would be a significantly larger percentage of the US population that could identify NZ on  a map?  I mean they are both on planet earth. Six times the death count, targeted America's favorite religion and those dead include Americans. 

 
Da Guru said:
Maybe because half the people have no idea where Sri Lanka even is.
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I would bet that over half of this forum could give a relatively accurate description of the location of Sri Lanka. 

I would guess the general population is closer to 20%.

 
National Thowheeth Jama'ath:

- aims to spread the global jihadist movement to Sri Lanka and to create hatred, fear and divisions in society

- advocates extreme fundamentalist indoctrination of children, inciting racism and for clashes with Buddhist monks

 
Da Guru said:
Correct but it will never stop. I will never understand what killing hundreds of innocent people accomplishes in the end.  Muslim terrorists bomb Christians on Easter Sunday..does that really help the muslim cause or hurt their people in the long run? 

A deranged man kills muslims in their place of worship..does that help whatever cause or hurt the cause?  Both are hurt.

As far as the outrage and coverage for some reason NZ got much more.  Nobody is really talking as much about this.  Maybe because half the people have no idea where Sri Lanka even is.
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ETA: probably not appropriate

To respond to your bold though, I don't think either is getting the attention it deserves.  Murdering people in cold blood for what they believe is about as heinous as it gets.

 
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The Z Machine said:
I would bet that over half of this forum could give a relatively accurate description of the location of Sri Lanka. 

I would guess the general population is closer to 20%.
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I would say less. 

I have been to India a few times for work and know people from or have been to that area so although I have never been there myself I know of it.

 
Far less than 20%. 

I conaider myself fairly well educated and I could tell you it was somewhere near India. But I couldn’t find it on a map. Before yesterday, it’s a country I may have thought of 3-4 times in my entire life. 

 
sho nuff said:
And you had how many posts in those first 7 pages to your two here?

Note: this isnt an attempt to talk about a poster...but pointing it out because you had several in that thread on page one about the video (and it relates to the point of how big the topic was here)...perhaps the video is why that had a ton of coverage as it had you discussing that one more than this as well.  

Along with familiarity of NZ vs Sri Lanka)
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At the same point in the thread, almost identical to the number I have here. But I get it,  people deal with tragedy in different ways. I'm sure you're posting non-stop in the Russia! thread. 

 
tonydead said:
At the same point in the thread, almost identical to the number I have here. But I get it,  people deal with tragedy in different ways. I'm sure you're posting non-stop in the Russia! thread. 
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Now?  Sure...when you made you comment and I posted the observation?  No

And what does my posting in another thread have to do with anything other than again trying to take a shot?

 
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I bought a Quran at a yard sale about a year ago. Yep, curious.

This on page one...

They will have a terrible punishment.

As we delve into the Quran we can see why we have the mess we do today.

Then if we look at just who Mohammad really was.

Like everybody else, really tired of this.

I;m going to just randomly open to any page, watch this....

page 131

Know that God is severe in exacting retribtion.

.....against you to imprison you or kill you or expel you.....

Everywhere you look something about some form of punish, violence.

 
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Sand said:
It's a snappier, more memorable name than Sri Lanka.
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I'm not sure how much you are joking here and, because I was just questioning you in another topic, I'm reluctant to argue across multiple threads with someone who I think is usually both genuine and very smart

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Still

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What a country calls itself shouldn't be about what is more memorable to others on the other side of the world, that speak different languages.  It should be about how they identify themselves.  Particularly when the former name came only from imperialism.  

 
ZenoRazon said:
I bought a Quran at a yard sale about a year ago. Yep, curious.

This on page one...

They will have a terrible punishment.

As we delve into the Quran we can see why we have the mess we do today.

Then if we look at just who Mohammad really was.

Like everybody else, really tired of this.

I;m going to just randomly open to any page, watch this....

page 131

Know that God is severe in exacting retribtion.

.....against you to imprison you or kill you or expel you.....

Everywhere you look something about some form of punish, violence.
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You ever read the Bible? 

 
tonydead said:
National Thowheeth Jama'ath:

- aims to spread the global jihadist movement to Sri Lanka and to create hatred, fear and divisions in society

- advocates extreme fundamentalist indoctrination of children, inciting racism and for clashes with Buddhist monks
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More on NJT (from BBC)

A previously little-known group called the National Thowheed Jamath (NTJ) is being accused of having carried out the Easter Sunday attacks in Sri Lanka.

Sri Lankan officials pinned the blame on the NTJ at a news conference on Monday.

However, neither NTJ, nor any other group, has admitted carrying out the wave of bombings which tore through the island, killing almost 300 people.

But still, the allegation raises the question, what is the NTJ?

Origins

Until Monday, when the Sri Lankan government spokesman mentioned its name, very few people had heard of the NTJ.

The group is believed to have splintered off from another hardline Islamist group in the country, the Sri Lanka Thowheed Jamath (SLTJ).

While still relatively unknown, the SLTJ is a bit more established. Its secretary, Abdul Razik, was arrested in 2016 for inciting hatred against Buddhists. He later issued an apology.

Some reports have also linked the NTJ to a spate of vandalism last December that targeted Buddhist temples in Mawanella, central Sri Lanka. The faces of Buddha statues that were on display outside the temples were attacked.

But the NTJ is an extremist fringe group within an already small religious minority - only 9.7% of Sri Lanka's population of about 21 million are Muslim.

Its social media presence is sparse, too. Although it has a Facebook page, it is only updated every few weeks or so. The NTJ Twitter feed hasn't updated since March 2018.

The group's website is also offline - although it's not clear if it was taken down before or after Sunday's attacks.

Government spokesman Rajitha Senaratne told reporters in Colombo on Monday that there had been "several warnings from foreign intelligence agencies about the impending attacks".

This isn't the only claim that officials had been alerted.

Sri Lankan Telecommunications Minister Harin Fernando tweeted a document that was reportedly sent by Sri Lanka's police chief earlier this month.

That document explicitly names the NTJ - as well as a warning that the group was planning to attack churches and the Indian High Commission.

The document also names Mohamed Zahran, the group's leader.

The tweet in question:

Some intelligence officers were aware of this incidence. Therefore there was a delay in action. What my father heard was also from an intelligence officer. Serious action need to be taken as to why this warning was ignored. I was in Badulla last night pic.twitter.com/ssJyItJF1x
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Alan Keenan, Sri Lanka director for the International Crisis Group think tank, also told BBC 5Live that the NTJ "appears to be the same group" as those behind the Mawanella vandalism.

He added: "The police eventually arrested a group of young men who were said to have been the students of a preacher who's named in the intelligence document that came out yesterday [Sunday]

But given how small NTJ are, officials suspect that it wasn't acting alone.

"We don't see that only a small organisation in this country can do all that," Mr Senaratne said. "We are now investigating the international support for them, and their other links, how they produced the suicide bombers here, and how they produced bombs like this."

And while not naming the NTJ directly, the Sri Lankan president's office echoed this belief that whichever group was behind the attacks had help from abroad.

"The intelligence sections have reported that there are international terror groups which are behind the local terrorists," a statement from President Maithripala Sirisena said. "International assistance will be sought to combat them
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ZenoRazon said:
Yes I have my point was we heat a lot more about Islamic terrorist groups than any other.
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So

ZenoRazon said:
Where are the Christians terrorist groups?  Are you saying the Bible also tries to sell....if you can't convert then kill
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really means

"The press really should cover Christian terrorist groups more".

Interesting. Particularly in contect of your non perusal of the Koran as detailed above (from which your conclusions seem undefined)

 
Sri Lanka Easter attacks revenge for Christchurch attacks

The Sri Lanka terror bombings were carried out by local Islamist extremists in retaliation for the deadly mosque attacks in New Zealand, the investigation has revealed.

The death toll has climbed to 321, including 38 foreigners, Sri Lanka's state minister of defence Ruwan Wijewardene said in an address to parliament.

He said the early findings of the ongoing probe found that the suicide bombings were committed in revenge for terror shootings at two mosques in Christchurch a month ago.
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Unlikely

New Zealand security expert Paul Buchanan says it's unlikely that coordinated bomb attacks in Sri Lanka were a response to the Christchurch mosque shootings.

Buchanan's comments follow claims on social media from Islamic State supporters who boasted that the attacks were revenge for the Christchurch massacre last month.

Buchanan, director of 36th Parallel Assessments, said given the co-ordinated nature of the Sri Lankan bombings and intel warnings which were ignored, it would seem a month was too little time to prepare for such an attack.
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"Christchurch seems to be a convenient justification for something that was being planned before March 15 and has more to do with ethnic-religious conflict in Sri Lanka," he said.

"It does show the dangers of ### for tat responses to terrorist attacks of any stripe, as it feeds into the clash of civilisations narrative."
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I saw that ISIS is claiming it now. We knew they would even if it wasnt them. Considering the bombs actually went off, they could have had a hand in it. 

 
[scooter] said:
I think you can justify the phrase "Easter worshippers" because the attacks took place in multiple locations (some in churches, some not).

So, if Hillary had said "Christians and travelers" (instead of "Easter worshippers and travelers"), then it would have implied that the travelers were not Christians.
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There’s nothing at all wrong with saying “Easter worshippers.” The faux outrage about that is nonsense. They were worshipping on Easter.

The point of those juxtaposed tweets is that she’s willing to explicitly call out white supremacist terrorists, but not radical Islamic terrorists.

 
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Max Power said:
I saw that ISIS is claiming it now. We knew they would even if it wasnt them. Considering the bombs actually went off, they could have had a hand in it. 
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An ISIS suspect named one of the bombers and gave specifics about planned attacks prior to the bombing, apparently.  I can't imagine what the families are feeling knowing that this information was in government hands, potentially in time to have saved lives.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/23/asia/sri-lanka-investigation-ntj-intl/index.html

 
Give me a number betweem 10 and 400.  That will represent a page in the Quran, I will turn to that page and find something about punish, kill, something about violence.

So what number/page?

 
ZenoRazon said:
Give me a number betweem 10 and 400.  That will represent a page in the Quran, I will turn to that page and find something about punish, kill, something about violence.

So what number/page?
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What?  What do you think this thread is?  Or this board for that matter?

 
[scooter] said:
391
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391

Here you go.

.......and so He might punish hypocritcal men and women.....

God has become angry with them and prepared Hell for them. How evil is such a destination.

We have prepared a blazing fire.

THAT, sort of thing is all over the Quran.  Easy to see why we have the problems we do.

Hell, 392

He will inflict a painful punshment.

.....shall be severity punished by Him

Why not 393

We would have punished those who were bent on denying the truth with a painfull punishment.

This is crazy.

 
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So the government received very specific intelligence about these attacks and did very little to warn the public.   

 
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tonydead said:
:confused: . Isn't it in the time zone that starts the day?  That's as far east as you can get. 
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Why I put that in quotes.. their culture, lifestyle, government - "western".   They were a UK colony.  We can relate to them.

 
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msommer said:
That's in the first link and quote . If you are not going to read the post, why bother?
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Did you see how long that post was?  Whatever it was all about, as of last night they are still calling it revenge. Lester Holt told me so and I think that's interesting. 

 
Maurile Tremblay said:
There’s nothing at all wrong with saying “Easter worshippers.” The faux outrage about that is nonsense. They were worshipping on Easter.

The point of those juxtaposed tweets is that she’s willing to explicitly call out white supremacist terrorists, but not radical Islamic terrorists.
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Assuming the terrorists prayed before they pulled off the bombings, then you are saying Easter Worshippers were killed by other Easter Worshippers.  It loses A LOT of context in that light, doesn't it?

 
TobiasFunke said:
I know, right?  Such weirdos. They should mark their foreheads with ashes on the same day they randomly stop eating meat for 40 days, like normal people.
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You know who you are talking to right?  tonydead hates all religions.

No need to bag on mine.   :kicksrock:

 
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Hugh Jass said:
You know who you are talking to right?  tonydead hates all religions.

No, need to bag on mine.   :kicksrock:
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I did not know that, sorry.  The post contrasted the "weirdos" with Christians, so I was making the obvious joke.

Hopefully my history of being mostly pro-religion and specifically praising the Catholic response to the family separation policy will redeem me here. Or just tell me how many Hail Marys to do ;)

 
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