Ebola (2 Viewers)

[Psychopav]

So I'm watching the PBS Frontline Doc about Ebola and couldn't help but notice when they mentioned how a little 8 year old girl infected an entire village. Her grandmother had the Ebola virus, and she then came in contact with her grandmother. Later on she was seen crying at the funeral by hugging her dead grandmother, then passed the virus on like a domino effect.

:wtf:

Yeah. Ha ha. What a hoot.

 

[Jayrod]

So I'm watching the PBS Frontline Doc about Ebola and couldn't help but notice when they mentioned how a little 8 year old girl infected an entire village. Her grandmother had the Ebola virus, and she then came in contact with her grandmother. Later on she was seen crying at the funeral by hugging her dead grandmother, then passed the virus on like a domino effect.

:wtf:

Yeah. Ha ha. What a hoot.

If that story doesn't create the lulz, I don't know what does. At least he didn't laugh about the death of cats or dogs.

 

[NCCommish]

I can't help but notice that despite all the hand wringing and chicken littling there is still no Ebola fueled apocalypse.

 

[Henry Ford]

I can't help but notice that despite all the hand wringing and chicken littling there is still no Ebola fueled apocalypse.

Yet.

 

[NCCommish]

I can't help but notice that despite all the hand wringing and chicken littling there is still no Ebola fueled apocalypse.

Yet.

Good point. But it is taking a while, Since I am currently underemployed now would be a good time for it to happen. I am ready to get my loot on and build myself a tots rad post apocalyptic hangout.

 

[Politician Spock]

I can't help but notice that despite all the hand wringing and chicken littling there is still no Ebola fueled apocalypse.

It's the incremental rate of growth that is concerning. If it ever does reach apocalypse level, many people will look back and say things like "####, in the summer of 2014 it had only infected hundreds... that was only ____ months ago! Holy ####!"

 

[Guest]

I can't help but notice that despite all the hand wringing and chicken littling there is still no Ebola fueled apocalypse.

It's the incremental rate of growth that is concerning. If it ever does reach apocalypse level, many people will look back and say things like "####, in the summer of 2014 it had only infected hundreds... that was only ____ months ago! Holy ####!"

The gestation period can be three weeks. Currently, there is between a 2 - 2.5x rate of infection for everyone who contracts. That is alarming as hell, because if you extrapolate it means exponential growth to the point of infecting many millions over a couple years. You can argue that the rate is higher because it's undereducated Africa. But then the rate will be higher in many urban settings, and would climb higher when medical systems are overrun. Fact is, this is progressing at an alarming rate and math will tell you that even a 1.5x multiple of infected per patint tracks to millions dead over time.

CDC released an alarming estimate yesterday of a worst care of 550k infected by this January - less than 4 months. If that were to occur, this is on a course that is quite alarming and unstoppable without a radical effort. You wouldn't expect to see hundreds of thousands downed by the disease yet - even if it's on course to deliver on worst expectations.

There should and must be a radical effort IMO to bring the infection or patient down <1. I saw a documentary of discovery of the situation in Liberia and it is both horrifying and easy to see how this could get out of hand and jump borders quickly.

 

[Sinn Fein]

The use of the word alarming is alarming (and quite the over statement)

 

[NCCommish]

I can't help but notice that despite all the hand wringing and chicken littling there is still no Ebola fueled apocalypse.

It's the incremental rate of growth that is concerning. If it ever does reach apocalypse level, many people will look back and say things like "####, in the summer of 2014 it had only infected hundreds... that was only ____ months ago! Holy ####!"

The gestation period can be three weeks. Currently, there is between a 2 - 2.5x rate of infection for everyone who contracts. That is alarming as hell, because if you extrapolate it means exponential growth to the point of infecting many millions over a couple years. You can argue that the rate is higher because it's undereducated Africa. But then the rate will be higher in many urban settings, and would climb higher when medical systems are overrun.Fact is, this is progressing at an alarming rate and math will tell you that even a 1.5x multiple of infected per patint tracks to millions dead over time.

CDC released an alarming estimate yesterday of a worst care of 550k infected by this January - less than 4 months. If that were to occur, this is on a course that is quite alarming and unstoppable without a radical effort. You wouldn't expect to see hundreds of thousands downed by the disease yet - even if it's on course to deliver on worst expectations.

There should and must be a radical effort IMO to bring the infection or patient down <1. I saw a documentary of discovery of the situation in Liberia and it is both horrifying and easy to see how this could get out of hand and jump borders quickly.

This isn't Liberia. We won't be killing workers doing treatment. We won't be destroying hospitals treating it. It isn't going to spread the way it does there in any first world country. Oh and the CDC estimate is based on no additional international help for those countries. That seems unlikely.

 

[Sinn Fein]

CDC is going to run up against a serious disease someday, but nobody will listen because they overstate everything, looking for the worst case scenario.

 

[Hot Diggity Dog]

Seems like a scary situation for Africa. Could see it getting out of hand.

 

[Politician Spock]

I can't help but notice that despite all the hand wringing and chicken littling there is still no Ebola fueled apocalypse.

It's the incremental rate of growth that is concerning. If it ever does reach apocalypse level, many people will look back and say things like "####, in the summer of 2014 it had only infected hundreds... that was only ____ months ago! Holy ####!"

The gestation period can be three weeks. Currently, there is between a 2 - 2.5x rate of infection for everyone who contracts. That is alarming as hell, because if you extrapolate it means exponential growth to the point of infecting many millions over a couple years. You can argue that the rate is higher because it's undereducated Africa. But then the rate will be higher in many urban settings, and would climb higher when medical systems are overrun.Fact is, this is progressing at an alarming rate and math will tell you that even a 1.5x multiple of infected per patint tracks to millions dead over time.

CDC released an alarming estimate yesterday of a worst care of 550k infected by this January - less than 4 months. If that were to occur, this is on a course that is quite alarming and unstoppable without a radical effort. You wouldn't expect to see hundreds of thousands downed by the disease yet - even if it's on course to deliver on worst expectations.

There should and must be a radical effort IMO to bring the infection or patient down <1. I saw a documentary of discovery of the situation in Liberia and it is both horrifying and easy to see how this could get out of hand and jump borders quickly.

This isn't Liberia. We won't be killing workers doing treatment. We won't be destroying hospitals treating it. It isn't going to spread the way it does there in any first world country. Oh and the CDC estimate is based on no additional international help for those countries. That seems unlikely.

I'm not concerned about the US. This isn't a "world killer". Maybe it could morph into one, but I don't have crystal balls to know what it will morph into.

What we do know is how it works now, and how Africa doesn't have the health standards and infrastructure to fight it. What it is today could be a "continent killer". Given that, I don't fault the CDC and international health organizations for calling in the cavalry on this one. If we go to war for humanitarian reasons, then surely we should try to save Africa from this. Unless of course we value the real estate and would benefit from those living there dying off.

 

[Guest]

I can't help but notice that despite all the hand wringing and chicken littling there is still no Ebola fueled apocalypse.

It's the incremental rate of growth that is concerning. If it ever does reach apocalypse level, many people will look back and say things like "####, in the summer of 2014 it had only infected hundreds... that was only ____ months ago! Holy ####!"

The gestation period can be three weeks. Currently, there is between a 2 - 2.5x rate of infection for everyone who contracts. That is alarming as hell, because if you extrapolate it means exponential growth to the point of infecting many millions over a couple years. You can argue that the rate is higher because it's undereducated Africa. But then the rate will be higher in many urban settings, and would climb higher when medical systems are overrun.Fact is, this is progressing at an alarming rate and math will tell you that even a 1.5x multiple of infected per patint tracks to millions dead over time.

CDC released an alarming estimate yesterday of a worst care of 550k infected by this January - less than 4 months. If that were to occur, this is on a course that is quite alarming and unstoppable without a radical effort. You wouldn't expect to see hundreds of thousands downed by the disease yet - even if it's on course to deliver on worst expectations.

There should and must be a radical effort IMO to bring the infection or patient down <1. I saw a documentary of discovery of the situation in Liberia and it is both horrifying and easy to see how this could get out of hand and jump borders quickly.

This isn't Liberia. We won't be killing workers doing treatment. We won't be destroying hospitals treating it. It isn't going to spread the way it does there in any first world country. Oh and the CDC estimate is based on no additional international help for those countries. That seems unlikely.

I wasn't viewing it from an American lens. Just pointing out that there's a multiple of patients infected that isn't slowing down and if it hits certain urban zones will expand. The question is whether it could kill millions and present a larger threat (not taking into account possible mutability) - not where that will occur. At its present course (and hopefully international intervention will help), it's going to expand. The Discover documentary was eye opening, because people can panic pretty easily and when they do they start hiding the disease and even denying the disease. If it overruns the ability to treat, that multiple of patients infected goes up - and that can happen in many places in the world as it spreads. This could be a disease, in its present form, that kills millions. There's a difference between that and saying it'll wipe out Mayberry.

 

[NCCommish]

I can't help but notice that despite all the hand wringing and chicken littling there is still no Ebola fueled apocalypse.

It's the incremental rate of growth that is concerning. If it ever does reach apocalypse level, many people will look back and say things like "####, in the summer of 2014 it had only infected hundreds... that was only ____ months ago! Holy ####!"

The gestation period can be three weeks. Currently, there is between a 2 - 2.5x rate of infection for everyone who contracts. That is alarming as hell, because if you extrapolate it means exponential growth to the point of infecting many millions over a couple years. You can argue that the rate is higher because it's undereducated Africa. But then the rate will be higher in many urban settings, and would climb higher when medical systems are overrun.Fact is, this is progressing at an alarming rate and math will tell you that even a 1.5x multiple of infected per patint tracks to millions dead over time.

CDC released an alarming estimate yesterday of a worst care of 550k infected by this January - less than 4 months. If that were to occur, this is on a course that is quite alarming and unstoppable without a radical effort. You wouldn't expect to see hundreds of thousands downed by the disease yet - even if it's on course to deliver on worst expectations.

There should and must be a radical effort IMO to bring the infection or patient down <1. I saw a documentary of discovery of the situation in Liberia and it is both horrifying and easy to see how this could get out of hand and jump borders quickly.

This isn't Liberia. We won't be killing workers doing treatment. We won't be destroying hospitals treating it. It isn't going to spread the way it does there in any first world country. Oh and the CDC estimate is based on no additional international help for those countries. That seems unlikely.

I'm not concerned about the US. This isn't a "world killer". Maybe it could morph into one, but I don't have crystal balls to know what it will morph into.

What we do know is how it works now, and how Africa doesn't have the health standards and infrastructure to fight it. What it is today could be a "continent killer". Given that, I don't fault the CDC and international health organizations for calling in the cavalry on this one. If we go to war for humanitarian reasons, then surely we should try to save Africa from this. Unless of course we value the real estate and would benefit from those living there dying off.

I'm completely good with that. I think we should be involved in helping those countries. But at some point they also have to help themselves a bit. And it starts with denouncing these stupid witchcraft cures. It includes protecting Aid workers and the places where they try to stop the disease. And the churches must start telling parishioners you can't pray this away you must go get treated. Those things need to happen to.

 

[Jobber]

Since all of the known Ebola outbreaks to date were fairly small (right?), the virus hasn't had a chance to bake, or mutate, in the human system for very long. Does this mean that there is more of a potential for this thing to mutate further and possibly become airborne the longer this outbreak drags on?

 

[Politician Spock]

I can't help but notice that despite all the hand wringing and chicken littling there is still no Ebola fueled apocalypse.

It's the incremental rate of growth that is concerning. If it ever does reach apocalypse level, many people will look back and say things like "####, in the summer of 2014 it had only infected hundreds... that was only ____ months ago! Holy ####!"

The gestation period can be three weeks. Currently, there is between a 2 - 2.5x rate of infection for everyone who contracts. That is alarming as hell, because if you extrapolate it means exponential growth to the point of infecting many millions over a couple years. You can argue that the rate is higher because it's undereducated Africa. But then the rate will be higher in many urban settings, and would climb higher when medical systems are overrun.Fact is, this is progressing at an alarming rate and math will tell you that even a 1.5x multiple of infected per patint tracks to millions dead over time.

CDC released an alarming estimate yesterday of a worst care of 550k infected by this January - less than 4 months. If that were to occur, this is on a course that is quite alarming and unstoppable without a radical effort. You wouldn't expect to see hundreds of thousands downed by the disease yet - even if it's on course to deliver on worst expectations.

There should and must be a radical effort IMO to bring the infection or patient down <1. I saw a documentary of discovery of the situation in Liberia and it is both horrifying and easy to see how this could get out of hand and jump borders quickly.

This isn't Liberia. We won't be killing workers doing treatment. We won't be destroying hospitals treating it. It isn't going to spread the way it does there in any first world country. Oh and the CDC estimate is based on no additional international help for those countries. That seems unlikely.

I'm not concerned about the US. This isn't a "world killer". Maybe it could morph into one, but I don't have crystal balls to know what it will morph into.

What we do know is how it works now, and how Africa doesn't have the health standards and infrastructure to fight it. What it is today could be a "continent killer". Given that, I don't fault the CDC and international health organizations for calling in the cavalry on this one. If we go to war for humanitarian reasons, then surely we should try to save Africa from this. Unless of course we value the real estate and would benefit from those living there dying off.

I'm completely good with that. I think we should be involved in helping those countries. But at some point they also have to help themselves a bit. And it starts with denouncing these stupid witchcraft cures. It includes protecting Aid workers and the places where they try to stop the disease. And the churches must start telling parishioners you can't pray this away you must go get treated. Those things need to happen to.

I think we keep hearing about the witchcraft cures because news media outlets are trying to increase viewers, and people tune in to the stories. Americans like to watch stupid things.

 

[NCCommish]

Since all of the known Ebola outbreaks to date were fairly small (right?), the virus hasn't had a chance to bake, or mutate, in the human system for very long. Does this mean that there is more of a potential for this thing to mutate further and possibly become airborne the longer this outbreak drags on?

Well to be honest we have no idea if this is the biggest outbreak ever. It happens in such out of the way places that until recently, historically, you could lose whole regions and people might not notice for a while. As to going airborne there is always a small chance. But the mutation would have to be pretty serious.

 

[NCCommish]

I can't help but notice that despite all the hand wringing and chicken littling there is still no Ebola fueled apocalypse.

It's the incremental rate of growth that is concerning. If it ever does reach apocalypse level, many people will look back and say things like "####, in the summer of 2014 it had only infected hundreds... that was only ____ months ago! Holy ####!"

The gestation period can be three weeks. Currently, there is between a 2 - 2.5x rate of infection for everyone who contracts. That is alarming as hell, because if you extrapolate it means exponential growth to the point of infecting many millions over a couple years. You can argue that the rate is higher because it's undereducated Africa. But then the rate will be higher in many urban settings, and would climb higher when medical systems are overrun.Fact is, this is progressing at an alarming rate and math will tell you that even a 1.5x multiple of infected per patint tracks to millions dead over time.

CDC released an alarming estimate yesterday of a worst care of 550k infected by this January - less than 4 months. If that were to occur, this is on a course that is quite alarming and unstoppable without a radical effort. You wouldn't expect to see hundreds of thousands downed by the disease yet - even if it's on course to deliver on worst expectations.

There should and must be a radical effort IMO to bring the infection or patient down <1. I saw a documentary of discovery of the situation in Liberia and it is both horrifying and easy to see how this could get out of hand and jump borders quickly.

This isn't Liberia. We won't be killing workers doing treatment. We won't be destroying hospitals treating it. It isn't going to spread the way it does there in any first world country. Oh and the CDC estimate is based on no additional international help for those countries. That seems unlikely.

I'm not concerned about the US. This isn't a "world killer". Maybe it could morph into one, but I don't have crystal balls to know what it will morph into.

What we do know is how it works now, and how Africa doesn't have the health standards and infrastructure to fight it. What it is today could be a "continent killer". Given that, I don't fault the CDC and international health organizations for calling in the cavalry on this one. If we go to war for humanitarian reasons, then surely we should try to save Africa from this. Unless of course we value the real estate and would benefit from those living there dying off.

I'm completely good with that. I think we should be involved in helping those countries. But at some point they also have to help themselves a bit. And it starts with denouncing these stupid witchcraft cures. It includes protecting Aid workers and the places where they try to stop the disease. And the churches must start telling parishioners you can't pray this away you must go get treated. Those things need to happen to.

I think we keep hearing about the witchcraft cures because news media outlets are trying to increase viewers, and people tune in to the stories. Americans like to watch stupid things.

IIRC Patient zero in the big spread has been identified as an herbalist who claimed she had the cure. When she inevitably died of the disease the people she was treating wandered off to infect more villages. Also there is a very large strain of paranoia that this is the result of some conspiracy by the west to kill Africans. Even though this disease has been known to Africa for centuries.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Since all of the known Ebola outbreaks to date were fairly small (right?), the virus hasn't had a chance to bake, or mutate, in the human system for very long. Does this mean that there is more of a potential for this thing to mutate further and possibly become airborne the longer this outbreak drags on?

Well to be honest we have no idea if this is the biggest outbreak ever. It happens in such out of the way places that until recently, historically, you could lose whole regions and people might not notice for a while. As to going airborne there is always a small chance. But the mutation would have to be pretty serious.

We would not want people to panic.

Officially it is not airborne but read the CDC's "droplet precautions" for US hospitals preparing for Ebola.

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/hcp/infection-prevention-and-control-recommendations.html

 

[Politician Spock]

I can't help but notice that despite all the hand wringing and chicken littling there is still no Ebola fueled apocalypse.

It's the incremental rate of growth that is concerning. If it ever does reach apocalypse level, many people will look back and say things like "####, in the summer of 2014 it had only infected hundreds... that was only ____ months ago! Holy ####!"

The gestation period can be three weeks. Currently, there is between a 2 - 2.5x rate of infection for everyone who contracts. That is alarming as hell, because if you extrapolate it means exponential growth to the point of infecting many millions over a couple years. You can argue that the rate is higher because it's undereducated Africa. But then the rate will be higher in many urban settings, and would climb higher when medical systems are overrun.Fact is, this is progressing at an alarming rate and math will tell you that even a 1.5x multiple of infected per patint tracks to millions dead over time.

CDC released an alarming estimate yesterday of a worst care of 550k infected by this January - less than 4 months. If that were to occur, this is on a course that is quite alarming and unstoppable without a radical effort. You wouldn't expect to see hundreds of thousands downed by the disease yet - even if it's on course to deliver on worst expectations.

There should and must be a radical effort IMO to bring the infection or patient down <1. I saw a documentary of discovery of the situation in Liberia and it is both horrifying and easy to see how this could get out of hand and jump borders quickly.

This isn't Liberia. We won't be killing workers doing treatment. We won't be destroying hospitals treating it. It isn't going to spread the way it does there in any first world country. Oh and the CDC estimate is based on no additional international help for those countries. That seems unlikely.

I'm not concerned about the US. This isn't a "world killer". Maybe it could morph into one, but I don't have crystal balls to know what it will morph into.

What we do know is how it works now, and how Africa doesn't have the health standards and infrastructure to fight it. What it is today could be a "continent killer". Given that, I don't fault the CDC and international health organizations for calling in the cavalry on this one. If we go to war for humanitarian reasons, then surely we should try to save Africa from this. Unless of course we value the real estate and would benefit from those living there dying off.

I'm completely good with that. I think we should be involved in helping those countries. But at some point they also have to help themselves a bit. And it starts with denouncing these stupid witchcraft cures. It includes protecting Aid workers and the places where they try to stop the disease. And the churches must start telling parishioners you can't pray this away you must go get treated. Those things need to happen to.

I think we keep hearing about the witchcraft cures because news media outlets are trying to increase viewers, and people tune in to the stories. Americans like to watch stupid things.

IIRC Patient zero in the big spread has been identified as an herbalist who claimed she had the cure. When she inevitably died of the disease the people she was treating wandered off to infect more villages. Also there is a very large strain of paranoia that this is the result of some conspiracy by the west to kill Africans. Even though this disease has been known to Africa for centuries.

Like I said, Americans like to watch stupid things.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

All the doctors in this thread say there is no reason to be concerned.

 

[badmojo1006]

All the doctors in this thread say there is no reason to be concerned.

Liberia's chief medical officer places herself under quarantine for 21 days after her assistant dies of Ebola

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Early Ebola patients responded to HIV drug - 13 of 15 survived

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/27/health/ebola-hiv-drug/

 

[Psychopav]

North Texas Hospital Evaluating Patient For Potential Ebola Exposure

DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – A North Texas hospital has a patient in isolation as they evaluate them for potential exposure to the Ebola virus.

Officials with Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas released the following statement Monday night:

“Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital Dallas has admitted a patient into strict isolation to be evaluated for potential Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) based on the patient’s symptoms and recent travel history. The hospital is following all Centers for Disease Control and Texas Department of Heath recommendations to ensure the safety of patients, hospital staff, volunteers, physicians and visitors. The CDC anticipates preliminary results tomorrow.”

It is unclear what specific symptoms the patient has or what the patient’s travel history was.

CBS 11 News spoke with Dallas County Health and Human Services Director Zachary Thompson who confirmed the patient had been in an area where the Ebola virus exists. “Looking at the travel history is the first indicator and then the next step is [treatment or non-treatment] once we get lab results,” he said.

Thompson definitely felt that there should be a heightened sense of awareness in North Texas, based on what has happened internationally. “With what we’ve seen in the media and how deadly the Ebola virus is, it is a concern.”

The badge of a Red Cross worker is disinfected after working with an Ebola patient. (credit: Pascal Guyot/AFP/Getty Images)

Thompson stressed that there are certain procedures that will be followed if tests for the ptient come back positive. “We [health professionals] all had been planning to look at what our next steps are if there is a confirmed case. Again, we have to do the public health follow up, to see what contacts… where this individual has gone since they arrived here in Dallas. There are a number of things that have to be looked at.”

As far as possible infection to others here in North Texas Thompson said, “The key point is, if there’s been no transmission, blood, secretion, any type of bodily fluids by the infected person to someone else, then that risk is low to none.”

The Ebola virus has killed more than 3,000 people across West Africa and infected several Americans who have traveled to the region, including Fort Worth Doctor Kent Brantly who contracted the disease while doing missionary work in Liberia.

This is a developing story. CBS 11 News has crews gathering more information and will have more as soon as it is available.

 

[Penguin]

Ebola isn't new, it's been around a very long time. The odds of it mutating to become airborne are next to nothing.

 

[mcintyre1]

Ebola case confirmed by CDC in Texas patient

 

[Jobber]

Ebola case confirmed by CDC in Texas patient

Thanks ***hole.

(not you, the Texan)

 

[Bucky86]

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!.....eventually

 

[fantasycurse42]

Why would someone go to Liberia?

Hey!! This country is being ravaged by a health epidemic, I'm going there...

ETA: He wasn't in Liberia as an aid worker or responder.

 

[menobrown]

Why would someone go to Liberia?

Who knows but just because this person decided to take that massive risk I don't see why I have to be at risk. I live in Dallas area and my wife works at DFW airport where I'm guessing this person passed through. I'm all about rights and all but I think they should waive this persons confidentiality rights. I want to know who he is, where he works, where he lives, etc, etc. I feel like I've got a right to know this information. The person may be in confinement but not the people they came into contact with.

 

[Josie Maran]

Why would someone go to Liberia?

Who knows but just because this person decided to take that massive risk I don't see why I have to be at risk. I live in Dallas area and my wife works at DFW airport where I'm guessing this person passed through. I'm all about rights and all but I think they should waive this persons confidentiality rights. I want to know who he is, where he works, where he lives, etc, etc. I feel like I've got a right to know this information. The person may be in confinement but not the people they came into contact with.

What are you gonna do, go to his house?

 

[menobrown]

Why would someone go to Liberia?

Who knows but just because this person decided to take that massive risk I don't see why I have to be at risk. I live in Dallas area and my wife works at DFW airport where I'm guessing this person passed through. I'm all about rights and all but I think they should waive this persons confidentiality rights. I want to know who he is, where he works, where he lives, etc, etc. I feel like I've got a right to know this information. The person may be in confinement but not the people they came into contact with.

What are you gonna do, go to his house?

Silly question.

I'd just like to avoid coming into contact with anyone he might have come into contact with since the incubation period can be a few weeks.

In general if people knew who it was and had any contact with him it would also alert them be more cognizant of the symptoms, which is when you are contagious. As an example most people living in Dallas who get a fever would never think it was Ebola, meanwhile they could potentially be infecting people because in a million years they would never think the root of their fever was apotentially deadly virus. If know you might have come into contact with someone with Ebola or have been in same area as when they were infected it would in theory lead you to look at that fever or other symptoms a little different which may or may not help you but can help avoid further spread.

 

[jamny]

Why would someone go to Liberia?

Who knows but just because this person decided to take that massive risk I don't see why I have to be at risk. I live in Dallas area and my wife works at DFW airport where I'm guessing this person passed through. I'm all about rights and all but I think they should waive this persons confidentiality rights. I want to know who he is, where he works, where he lives, etc, etc. I feel like I've got a right to know this information. The person may be in confinement but not the people they came into contact with.

What are you gonna do, go to his house?

Silly question.

I'd just like to avoid coming into contact with anyone he might have come into contact with since the incubation period can be a few weeks.

In general if people knew who it was and had any contact with him it would also alert them be more cognizant of the symptoms, which is when you are contagious. As an example most people living in Dallas who get a fever would never think it was Ebola, meanwhile they could potentially be infecting people because in a million years they would never think the root of their fever was apotentially deadly virus. If know you might have come into contact with someone with Ebola or have been in same area as when they were infected it would in theory lead you to look at that fever or other symptoms a little different which may or may not help you but can help avoid further spread.

Settle down Chad.

Oh, sorry...wrong Ebola thread.

 

[ArbyMelt]

Why would someone go to Liberia?

Hey!! This country is being ravaged by a health epidemic, I'm going there...

ETA: He wasn't in Liberia as an aid worker or responder.

I thought he was leaving Liberia to visit relatives here.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Why would someone go to Liberia?

Hey!! This country is being ravaged by a health epidemic, I'm going there...

ETA: He wasn't in Liberia as an aid worker or responder.

I thought he was leaving Liberia to visit relatives here.

Sweet, free healthcare in a better hospital

 

[Smack Tripper]

I'm no neocon, but I don't quite understand how borders haven't been sealed until there is some better containment on this thing. It will be cheaper and more efficient than the alternative.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

math will tell you that even a 1.5x multiple of infected per patint tracks to millions dead over time.

I've checked the math. He's right.

 

[ShamrockPride]

Well, it was a good 250 year run we had folks. Finally seems like the karma from all of the skeletons in this country's closet are catching up with us.

Cheers to the end.

 

[dschuler]

math will tell you that even a 1.5x multiple of infected per patint tracks to millions dead over time.

I've checked the math. He's right.

I was missing a decimal the first time I tried to figure it out, but now I understand.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Ebola isn't new, it's been around a very long time. The odds of it mutating to become airborne are next to nothing.

 

[mquinnjr]

Even in the movie Outbreak when it did go airborne, they found a serum as the movie ended, and (hypothetically) would've been able to salvage the human race if the movie didn't end.

I'll put our doctors up against Dustin Hoffman and Rene Russo. We got this.

 

[Hot Diggity Dog]

Even in the movie Outbreak when it did go airborne, they found a serum as the movie ended, and (hypothetically) would've been able to salvage the human race if the movie didn't end.

I'll put our doctors up against Dustin Hoffman and Rene Russo. We got this.

this serum even miraculously restored to health anyone who had almost died from it too and kill the virus on way pretty sweet.

 

[shader]

I don't think there is much concern in America yet. But you have to wonder why they still allow flights to Liberia. Just mind-blowing.

 

[Green and Gold]

Well, it was a good 250 year run we had folks. Finally seems like the karma from all of the skeletons in this country's closet are catching up with us.

Cheers to the end.

Wow, you're old.

 

[Henry Ford]

Well, it was a good 250 year run we had folks. Finally seems like the karma from all of the skeletons in this country's closet are catching up with us.

Cheers to the end.

Wow, you're old.

Because a skeleton can catch him?

 

[Psychopav]

Why would someone go to Liberia?

Who knows but just because this person decided to take that massive risk I don't see why I have to be at risk. I live in Dallas area and my wife works at DFW airport where I'm guessing this person passed through. I'm all about rights and all but I think they should waive this persons confidentiality rights. I want to know who he is, where he works, where he lives, etc, etc. I feel like I've got a right to know this information. The person may be in confinement but not the people they came into contact with.

What are you gonna do, go to his house?

Silly question.I'd just like to avoid coming into contact with anyone he might have come into contact with since the incubation period can be a few weeks.

In general if people knew who it was and had any contact with him it would also alert them be more cognizant of the symptoms, which is when you are contagious. As an example most people living in Dallas who get a fever would never think it was Ebola, meanwhile they could potentially be infecting people because in a million years they would never think the root of their fever was apotentially deadly virus. If know you might have come into contact with someone with Ebola or have been in same area as when they were infected it would in theory lead you to look at that fever or other symptoms a little different which may or may not help you but can help avoid further spread.

Settle down Chad Liberia.Oh, sorry...wrong Ebola thread.

Fixed.

 

[spreagle]

You can get Ebola from sweat so doesn't that mean to be perfectly safe you have to avoid all public places now, like buses, subways, airplanes, McDonald's, casinos, crowded lines to football games, public restrooms and public doorknobs and public pens on chains at the bank and even money itself because your pocket change could possibly have Ebola all over it.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Will be watching 28 Days Later this weekend to prepare.

 

[fantasycurse42]

This appears to be the serious Ebola thread, so I'll post this in here:

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/10/01/thompson-dallas-county-ebola-patient-cases/16524303/

Ham posted that in the funny Ebola thread.

Quick excerpt:

"Local health officials say the patient was in contact with several children before he was hospitalized. Thompson says each of those children have been kept home and are under precautionary monitoring."

I guarantee every parent in this school district is in an uproar right now, and for good reason. When have the kids been kept home since? He was only admitted Sunday, so they were all in school last week.

 

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Will be watching 28 Days Later this weekend to prepare.