Ebola (3 Viewers)

[mcintyre1]

According to the radio, you have to be close enough to the sneeze so that it gets in your eyes. Or you have to lick and swallow the other person's excretions.

Or have an open sore or cut in your skin. Thats why protective suits and gloves are worn along with the glasses.

Honest question, if you're on a plane with no ventilation/same air circling, could that hypothetically infect everyone if the sneeze gets in your mouth/eyes/any openings on your face?

I heard a doctor on the news the other night say no to this question. Because planes filter the air before it is recirculated back out to the cabin.

I was skeptical that aircraft would have filters good enough to knock out viruses (which are much smaller than bacteria, for example), but it looks like I'm wrong there. They're not perfect, but the filters do eliminate a good amount of airborne pathogens. All of that said, Ebola isn't airborne, so your concern is still direct contact or infected surface contact.

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/03/18/airplane-air-does-really-make-sick/ (Fox News, but looks legit enough).

 

[Cliff Clavin]

This thread grew 4 pages overnight and I don't feel like reading it all.

Did anyone mention how the NBC cameraman got Ebola? Why would he be touching anyone? I understand why doctors get it, but how does a cameraman get it?

"He's spraying droplets of ebola into the air for crying out loud"

So your position is it's not possible to transmit by cough or sneeze?

My position is that there is a whole lot of crazy loons in this thread that are getting their panties in a bunch over nothing.

Do you know the procedures for entering and exiting a lab that works with Ebola? The government and CDC take this very seriously. I wasn't worried about Ebola at all in this country, prior to a few days ago. But the unbelievably lax attitudes towards this disease are astounding.

If Ebola is in vomit on the ground, and a janitor is spraying it, than ebola is in the water and mist that goes into the air. Is your position that ebola would NOT transmit through water that is being sprayed through the air? Obviously it's not going to get into the air and start infecting people through Dallas...but if you are right there a foot away from it...would YOU be comfortable?

I still am convinced that a first-world country should have no issues. In my opinion, a worst-case scenario from this Dallas outbreak is 4-5 people getting the virus, and a huge effort that will clamp down on the virus.

But the "panties in a bunch over nothing" statements are completely out-of-line. The only thing that is going to keep Ebola from killing millions and millions of people is a lot of hard work from the medical community and governments, including those in the US.

 

[shader]

According to the radio, you have to be close enough to the sneeze so that it gets in your eyes. Or you have to lick and swallow the other person's excretions.

That's not entirely accurate, based on what I've read. Ebola can survive anywhere from 15 minutes to 48 hours on surfaces in water droplets/etc. depending on the surface and exposure to sunlight. Contact with that infected surface and subsequent contact with the eyes and mouth would likely be enough for infection. That said, we don't really know for sure because previous outbreaks have been much smaller and the focus was on containment less than research on how each person got infected.

This seems like the logical thing to admit, if you are the CDC/gov't. Instead, they are trying to minimize panic and therefore are at the risk of creating a nation of people who think that a level 4 pathogen is "nothing".

 

[shader]

According to the radio, you have to be close enough to the sneeze so that it gets in your eyes. Or you have to lick and swallow the other person's excretions.

Or have an open sore or cut in your skin. Thats why protective suits and gloves are worn along with the glasses.

Honest question, if you're on a plane with no ventilation/same air circling, could that hypothetically infect everyone if the sneeze gets in your mouth/eyes/any openings on your face?

Nah, I don't think there is much of a risk of that. I'd be more worried about people in a small radius of the infected person on the plane. I don't think there is any risk a tall of getting in the ventilation system and infecting everyone.

 

[shader]

This thread grew 4 pages overnight and I don't feel like reading it all.

Did anyone mention how the NBC cameraman got Ebola? Why would he be touching anyone? I understand why doctors get it, but how does a cameraman get it?

"He's spraying droplets of ebola into the air for crying out loud"

So your position is it's not possible to transmit by cough or sneeze?

My position is that there is a whole lot of crazy loons in this thread that are getting their panties in a bunch over nothing.

Do you know the procedures for entering and exiting a lab that works with Ebola? The government and CDC take this very seriously. I wasn't worried about Ebola at all in this country, prior to a few days ago. But the unbelievably lax attitudes towards this disease are astounding.

If Ebola is in vomit on the ground, and a janitor is spraying it, than ebola is in the water and mist that goes into the air. Is your position that ebola would NOT transmit through water that is being sprayed through the air? Obviously it's not going to get into the air and start infecting people through Dallas...but if you are right there a foot away from it...would YOU be comfortable?

I still am convinced that a first-world country should have no issues. In my opinion, a worst-case scenario from this Dallas outbreak is 4-5 people getting the virus, and a huge effort that will clamp down on the virus.

But the "panties in a bunch over nothing" statements are completely out-of-line. The only thing that is going to keep Ebola from killing millions and millions of people is a lot of hard work from the medical community and governments, including those in the US.

 

[Tom Servo]

What's particularly concerning to me as a worst case is if someone infected with enterovirus-68 (the 'mystery' respiratory illness that right wing sites have been reporting on for a few months and is present in at least 11 US states) became infected with Ebola, resulting in a novel mutation of the two. Highly, highly unlikely, but we'd be in for a ####storm if it happened.

the lame stream media has been reporting on enterovirus 68 too

Yeah, very true. I've just noticed that Drudge et al. have been harping on it near constantly for awhile now. Agreed that the politicization of Ebola by the right wing is both dangerous and disgusting.

You mean criticizing the seemingly slipshod containment procedures? I would think that would be everyone's concern, but I could be wrong.

 

[Tom Servo]

Can Ebola spread through farts?

If they do, I'd better not get infected.

 

[Fennis]

its like a bad episode of House in here

 

[shader]

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/03/nbc-news-cameraman-from-providence-diagnosed-with-ebola/

Ashoka told his mother he has an idea of how he may have contracted Ebola.

“At one point he was trying to help decontaminate a car. He had most of the protective gear on, but he thinks something might have splashed on his body at that point. That’s one possibility, but really, one doesn’t know fully,” Diana said.

 

[Parrothead]

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/03/nbc-news-cameraman-from-providence-diagnosed-with-ebola/

Ashoka told his mother he has an idea of how he may have contracted Ebola.

“At one point he was trying to help decontaminate a car. He had most of the protective gear on, but he thinks something might have splashed on his body at that point. That’s one possibility, but really, one doesn’t know fully,” Diana said.

he is a cameraman- why is he doing this knowing the risks?

 

[TheIronSheik]

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/10/03/nbc-news-cameraman-from-providence-diagnosed-with-ebola/

Ashoka told his mother he has an idea of how he may have contracted Ebola.

“At one point he was trying to help decontaminate a car. He had most of the protective gear on, but he thinks something might have splashed on his body at that point. That’s one possibility, but really, one doesn’t know fully,” Diana said.

he is a cameraman- why is he doing this knowing the risks?

Seriously. That is odd.

Also, I just saw a picture of Ashoka Mukpo. Is it bad that I was completely shocked that he was white?

 

[The_Man]

NBCWashington ‏@nbcwashington 13m13 minutes ago

BREAKING: A patient with Ebola-like symptoms is being treated at Howard University Hospital. http://bit.ly/ZB4EsL

I'm the furthest thing from an alarmist or a fear-monger. But when I see stuff like this, I can't help but think of "The Stand," and the increasingly frequent news reports of the killer disease's spread.

 

[dickey moe]

Can Ebola spread through farts?

Depends if the fart can be medically diagnosed as a shart or not.

 

[Bucky86]

NBCWashington ‏@nbcwashington 13m13 minutes ago

BREAKING: A patient with Ebola-like symptoms is being treated at Howard University Hospital. http://bit.ly/ZB4EsL

I'm the furthest thing from an alarmist or a fear-monger. But when I see stuff like this, I can't help but think of "The Stand," and the increasingly frequent news reports of the killer disease's spread.

Game changer

 

[Fennis]

NBCWashington ‏@nbcwashington 13m13 minutes ago

BREAKING: A patient with Ebola-like symptoms is being treated at Howard University Hospital. http://bit.ly/ZB4EsL

I'm the furthest thing from an alarmist or a fear-monger. But when I see stuff like this, I can't help but think of "The Stand," and the increasingly frequent news reports of the killer disease's spread.

You're not an alarmist, but when you hear of a couple cases of Ebola you think of the end of the world?

 

[Sputnikv8]

NBCWashington ‏@nbcwashington 13m13 minutes ago

BREAKING: A patient with Ebola-like symptoms is being treated at Howard University Hospital. http://bit.ly/ZB4EsL

I'm the furthest thing from an alarmist or a fear-monger. But when I see stuff like this, I can't help but think of "The Stand," and the increasingly frequent news reports of the killer disease's spread.

Game changer

Awww...come on man. No way. Is this a reliable source?

 

[Parrothead]

NBCWashington ‏@nbcwashington 13m13 minutes ago

BREAKING: A patient with Ebola-like symptoms is being treated at Howard University Hospital. http://bit.ly/ZB4EsL

I'm the furthest thing from an alarmist or a fear-monger. But when I see stuff like this, I can't help but think of "The Stand," and the increasingly frequent news reports of the killer disease's spread.

the ebola guy's flight had a layover at Dulles

 

[Fennis]

NBCWashington ‏@nbcwashington 13m13 minutes ago

BREAKING: A patient with Ebola-like symptoms is being treated at Howard University Hospital. http://bit.ly/ZB4EsL

I'm the furthest thing from an alarmist or a fear-monger. But when I see stuff like this, I can't help but think of "The Stand," and the increasingly frequent news reports of the killer disease's spread.

the ebola guy's flight had a layover at Dulles

and Dulles rhymes with Ebola

 

[El Floppo]

Can Ebola spread through farts?

only really wet ones.

 

[Bucky86]

Can Ebola spread through farts?

only really wet ones.

We need to quarantine the dude with the I just sharted thread

 

[Sputnikv8]

NBCWashington ‏@nbcwashington 13m13 minutes ago

BREAKING: A patient with Ebola-like symptoms is being treated at Howard University Hospital. http://bit.ly/ZB4EsL

I'm the furthest thing from an alarmist or a fear-monger. But when I see stuff like this, I can't help but think of "The Stand," and the increasingly frequent news reports of the killer disease's spread.

the ebola guy's flight had a layover at Dulles

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/03/health/ebola-us/index.html

The patient, who was not named, recently traveled to Nigeria and presented with the symptoms upon his or her return, she said. The patient is in stable condition.

 

[Tom Servo]

NBCWashington ‏@nbcwashington 13m13 minutes ago

BREAKING: A patient with Ebola-like symptoms is being treated at Howard University Hospital. http://bit.ly/ZB4EsL

I'm the furthest thing from an alarmist or a fear-monger. But when I see stuff like this, I can't help but think of "The Stand," and the increasingly frequent news reports of the killer disease's spread.

You're not an alarmist, but when you hear of a couple cases of Ebola you think of the end of the world?

I'm not saying "end of the world"; I'm thinking we might want to step up containment measures just a tad.

 

[Fat Nick]

Nice...just read that he came through Brussels last Friday...the same day nearly our entire company's leadership team was headed back from there after budget reviews.

 

[Fennis]

Nice...just read that he came through Brussels last Friday...the same day nearly our entire company's leadership team was headed back from there after budget reviews.

"lets do an offsite to Brussels to discuss how we keep the budget down".

 

[fantasycurse42]

NBCWashington ‏@nbcwashington 13m13 minutes ago

BREAKING: A patient with Ebola-like symptoms is being treated at Howard University Hospital. http://bit.ly/ZB4EsL

I'm the furthest thing from an alarmist or a fear-monger. But when I see stuff like this, I can't help but think of "The Stand," and the increasingly frequent news reports of the killer disease's spread.

You're not an alarmist, but when you hear of a couple cases of Ebola you think of the end of the world?

I'm not saying "end of the world"; I'm thinking we might want to step up containment measures just a tad.

How about some travel restrictions to start... Sounds pretty easy to do.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

 

[Fat Nick]

Nice...just read that he came through Brussels last Friday...the same day nearly our entire company's leadership team was headed back from there after budget reviews.

"lets do an offsite to Brussels to discuss how we keep the budget down".

Lol...to some extent...but we are multi-national with HQ's in NJ, Belgium, and Singapore, so in order to get the global heads together, Brussels is kind of the closest thing to a "middle."

Best case, there's some promotional opportunities as some spots open up within the company. Worst case, I die.

 

[Parrothead]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

have you had sex with Manute Bol's corpse lately?

 

[moleculo]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

I've had quite a few of those lately. I wondering if there's an unrelated NaZi epidemic going around?

 

[TheIronSheik]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

have you had sex with Manute Bol's corpse lately?

Define "lately".

 

[Henry Ford]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

Did you get it following performing oral sex on a fruit bat?

 

[Henry Ford]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

have you had sex with Manute Bol's corpse lately?

Define "lately".

Within the last month.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

I've had quite a few of those lately. I wondering if there's an unrelated NaZi epidemic going around?

A Blitzkrieg across the nation.

 

[Bucky86]

Anyone else in Dallas come down with Ebola yet? What about that rumor in Utah?

 

[Annyong]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

I've had quite a few of those lately. I wondering if there's an unrelated NaZi epidemic going around?

Na

 

[TheIronSheik]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

have you had sex with Manute Bol's corpse lately?

Define "lately".

Within the last month.

Yes. But he wore protection.

 

[Annyong]

The Ebola sounds like it could be a new dance craze or something.

 

[mquinnjr]

The Ebola sounds like it could be a new dance craze or something.

Or an exciting, new variation on the "Bucking Bronco" move.

 

[TheIronSheik]

The Ebola sounds like it could be a new dance craze or something.

Or an exciting, new variation on the "Bucking Bronco" move.

Or a lozenger you take to heal a sore throat.

 

[Fennis]

The Ebola sounds like it could be a new dance craze or something.

Or an exciting, new variation on the "Bucking Bronco" move.

Or a lozenger you take to heal a sore throat.

I always thought some new tech product, eBola

 

[Bucky86]

EEEEEEBOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

 

[TheIronSheik]

The Ebola sounds like it could be a new dance craze or something.

Or an exciting, new variation on the "Bucking Bronco" move.

Or a lozenger you take to heal a sore throat.

I always thought some new tech product, eBola

Worst.... online auction.... EVER!!!

 

[Henry Ford]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

have you had sex with Manute Bol's corpse lately?

Define "lately".

Within the last month.

Yes. But he wore protection.

Anti-rape condom?

 

[Parrothead]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

have you had sex with Manute Bol's corpse lately?

Define "lately".

Within the last month.

Yes. But he wore protection.

Anti-rape condom?

for the record, I am anti rape

 

[TheIronSheik]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

have you had sex with Manute Bol's corpse lately?

Define "lately".

Within the last month.

Yes. But he wore protection.

Anti-rape condom?

for the record, I am anti rape

####### liberals.

 

[jamny]

How did they cure the 2 doctors?

 

[TheIronSheik]

How did they cure the 2 doctors?

Don't think they "cured" them. I think Ebola isn't a 100% death sentence if you get it. I think a very small number of people can survive it.

 

[STEADYMOBBIN 22]

Nice...just read that he came through Brussels last Friday...the same day nearly our entire company's leadership team was headed back from there after budget reviews.

"lets do an offsite to Brussels to discuss how we keep the budget down".

[#10127] You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day

 

[Ned]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

have you had sex with Manute Bol's corpse lately?

Define "lately".

WTF, I have one too. That painful bugger is right in the crease too.

 

[TheIronSheik]

I feel a nasal zit, or a NaZi as I call them, coming on. Hurts like a mother. Does anyone know if this is how Ebola starts?

have you had sex with Manute Bol's corpse lately?

Define "lately".

WTF, I have one too. That painful bugger is right in the crease too.

I feel like this is already out of hand. Is it too late to stop the NaZi's?