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Ebola (2 Viewers)

lod01 said:
Jobber said:
Mr. Ham said:
shader said:
Sinn Fein said:
Well, if all the chicken littles were correct before, the bird flu would have killed us all, so we are just happy to be living on borrowed time.

Hell I am more worried about the enterovirus

which is killing more kids than Ebola ever will in the US.
No one is saying for you to worry. I'm not worried about me or my family. I am, however, worried about this disease exploding through the 3rd world, killing millions and causing a major travel problem that could potentially devastate the economy. If you don't think it's possible, you aren't paying attention. It's being taken far more seriously than the bird flu. This isn't a bunch of conspiracy sites and a mass media dying for a story. This is the CDC, WHO, and many governments sounding the alarm of a potential catastrophe if it's not squashed soon.
I don't get the confidence that it cannot spread in the US. It's early yet.
1. I'd like to know how it started over in Africa this time around.

2.I'd like to know how it is not going to pop up again in the US now that we have officially brought it over here for the 1st time ever.

3. What says there won't be an outbreak in the Dallas area sometime down the road since this infected guy arrived there.
IIRC, it was traced to a child who consumed improperly cooked fruit bat soup.
Fruit....Bat....Soup. JFC, they deserve ebola.
whats the problem...looks devine
the 2 cuts of scallion make a world of difference.

 
updated:

Bellevue Hospital says patients feared to have Ebola do NOT have the disease 'Two patients there this morning were evaluated and it was quickly determined that did not have the virus,' the New York hospital's spokesman Ian Michaels said. EMS crews who dealt with the patients had been isolated and then cleared to return to work, sources said.
 
The problem with you Ham-nuts is that now every time someone sneezes, they think they have ebola, and they are going to overwhelm healthcare officials and keep them from treating actual ebola cases.

Congratulations - your paranoia has killed the world.
WHOLE lotta stupid in posts like this. There's plenty of room between "the world is coming to an end" and your "it's no big deal" shtick. Both extremes are pretty ignorant and lazy IMO.
I'm not making light of the fact people in the U.S. could die from ebola, but it's not going to be a SHTF situation. The second ebola starts to spread here people take their kids out of school and don't leave the house for a month. Then it's all over.

 
The problem with you Ham-nuts is that now every time someone sneezes, they think they have ebola, and they are going to overwhelm healthcare officials and keep them from treating actual ebola cases.

Congratulations - your paranoia has killed the world.
WHOLE lotta stupid in posts like this. There's plenty of room between "the world is coming to an end" and your "it's no big deal" shtick. Both extremes are pretty ignorant and lazy IMO.
I'm not making light of the fact people in the U.S. could die from ebola, but it's not going to be a SHTF situation. The second ebola starts to spread here people take their kids out of school and don't leave the house for a month. Then it's all over.
There are bigger issues to fear here than Ebola

 
The problem with you Ham-nuts is that now every time someone sneezes, they think they have ebola, and they are going to overwhelm healthcare officials and keep them from treating actual ebola cases.

Congratulations - your paranoia has killed the world.
WHOLE lotta stupid in posts like this. There's plenty of room between "the world is coming to an end" and your "it's no big deal" shtick. Both extremes are pretty ignorant and lazy IMO.
I'm not making light of the fact people in the U.S. could die from ebola, but it's not going to be a SHTF situation. The second ebola starts to spread here people take their kids out of school and don't leave the house for a month. Then it's all over.
I think it's just a little more than that ;)

 
The problem with you Ham-nuts is that now every time someone sneezes, they think they have ebola, and they are going to overwhelm healthcare officials and keep them from treating actual ebola cases.

Congratulations - your paranoia has killed the world.
WHOLE lotta stupid in posts like this. There's plenty of room between "the world is coming to an end" and your "it's no big deal" shtick. Both extremes are pretty ignorant and lazy IMO.
I'm not making light of the fact people in the U.S. could die from ebola, but it's not going to be a SHTF situation. The second ebola starts to spread here people take their kids out of school and don't leave the house for a month. Then it's all over.
We already have someone in our neighborhood that has moved away due to ebola. Seriously. Just found out this morning that 3 kids pulled out of our school for Ebola fears. They went to their beach home on the east coast of Florida somewhere till this dies down.

 
lod01 said:
Jobber said:
Mr. Ham said:
shader said:
Sinn Fein said:
Well, if all the chicken littles were correct before, the bird flu would have killed us all, so we are just happy to be living on borrowed time.

Hell I am more worried about the enterovirus

which is killing more kids than Ebola ever will in the US.
No one is saying for you to worry. I'm not worried about me or my family. I am, however, worried about this disease exploding through the 3rd world, killing millions and causing a major travel problem that could potentially devastate the economy. If you don't think it's possible, you aren't paying attention. It's being taken far more seriously than the bird flu. This isn't a bunch of conspiracy sites and a mass media dying for a story. This is the CDC, WHO, and many governments sounding the alarm of a potential catastrophe if it's not squashed soon.
I don't get the confidence that it cannot spread in the US. It's early yet.
1. I'd like to know how it started over in Africa this time around.2.I'd like to know how it is not going to pop up again in the US now that we have officially brought it over here for the 1st time ever.

3. What says there won't be an outbreak in the Dallas area sometime down the road since this infected guy arrived there.
IIRC, it was traced to a child who consumed improperly cooked fruit bat soup.
Fruit....Bat....Soup. JFC, they deserve ebola.
Bat soup is really special but it has not been confirmed exactly how patient zero in Ginea got infected with Ebola.http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/11/health/ebola-patient-zero/

 
The problem with you Ham-nuts is that now every time someone sneezes, they think they have ebola, and they are going to overwhelm healthcare officials and keep them from treating actual ebola cases.

Congratulations - your paranoia has killed the world.
WHOLE lotta stupid in posts like this. There's plenty of room between "the world is coming to an end" and your "it's no big deal" shtick. Both extremes are pretty ignorant and lazy IMO.
I'm not making light of the fact people in the U.S. could die from ebola, but it's not going to be a SHTF situation. The second ebola starts to spread here people take their kids out of school and don't leave the house for a month. Then it's all over.
We already have someone in our neighborhood that has moved away due to ebola. Seriously. Just found out this morning that 3 kids pulled out of our school for Ebola fears. They went to their beach home on the east coast of Florida somewhere till this dies down.
This is exactly how a highly contagious virus can lead to the breakdown of society. Poor kids now have to cope with the destruction of the life they once knew.
 
The problem with you Ham-nuts is that now every time someone sneezes, they think they have ebola, and they are going to overwhelm healthcare officials and keep them from treating actual ebola cases.

Congratulations - your paranoia has killed the world.
WHOLE lotta stupid in posts like this. There's plenty of room between "the world is coming to an end" and your "it's no big deal" shtick. Both extremes are pretty ignorant and lazy IMO.
I'm not making light of the fact people in the U.S. could die from ebola, but it's not going to be a SHTF situation. The second ebola starts to spread here people take their kids out of school and don't leave the house for a month. Then it's all over.
How many people do you know who could survive locked up for a month, never leaving the house to go anywhere, including to get more food? Outside of survivalists or the rare 1% of hyper-prepared suburban families, I don't think there are many Americans who could manage this, certainly not in urban areas.

 
The problem with you Ham-nuts is that now every time someone sneezes, they think they have ebola, and they are going to overwhelm healthcare officials and keep them from treating actual ebola cases.

Congratulations - your paranoia has killed the world.
WHOLE lotta stupid in posts like this. There's plenty of room between "the world is coming to an end" and your "it's no big deal" shtick. Both extremes are pretty ignorant and lazy IMO.
I'm not making light of the fact people in the U.S. could die from ebola, but it's not going to be a SHTF situation. The second ebola starts to spread here people take their kids out of school and don't leave the house for a month. Then it's all over.
We already have someone in our neighborhood that has moved away due to ebola. Seriously. Just found out this morning that 3 kids pulled out of our school for Ebola fears. They went to their beach home on the east coast of Florida somewhere till this dies down.
Makes me want to wish for a hurricane about right now.

 
Here is what I don't understand....If ebola doesn't live outside of the body for very long....I think I saw in a controlled environment 6 days....Why do they send the Hazmat guys to disinfect the homes/apartments? (why risk exposure) Why don't they just seal them up for a week and they should be good to go... I'll answer my own question...Because the CDC doesn't really doesn't understand the disease or how to handle it.

 
Here is what I don't understand....If ebola doesn't live outside of the body for very long....I think I saw in a controlled environment 6 days....Why do they send the Hazmat guys to disinfect the homes/apartments? (why risk exposure) Why don't they just seal them up for a week and they should be good to go... I'll answer my own question...Because the CDC doesn't really doesn't understand the disease or how to handle it.
Completely agree here.

I think you go in with hazmat team and bleach the bathrooms and collect bedding to be burned and lock that sucker up for 2 weeks with the heater set to 85.

Then you can go back in safely with a team to wipe down all other surfaces and handles and crap with bleach.

That being said they basically let the ebola man's family bathe in his juices for weeks and none of them got it.

 
Here is what I don't understand....If ebola doesn't live outside of the body for very long....I think I saw in a controlled environment 6 days....Why do they send the Hazmat guys to disinfect the homes/apartments? (why risk exposure) Why don't they just seal them up for a week and they should be good to go... I'll answer my own question...Because the CDC doesn't really doesn't understand the disease or how to handle it.
Completely agree here.

I think you go in with hazmat team and bleach the bathrooms and collect bedding to be burned and lock that sucker up for 2 weeks with the heater set to 85.

Then you can go back in safely with a team to wipe down all other surfaces and handles and crap with bleach.

That being said they basically let the ebola man's family bathe in his juices for weeks and none of them got it.
Not sure putting the heater on 85 would be the smart move. Probably better to put the AC on 40.

 
Here is what I don't understand....If ebola doesn't live outside of the body for very long....I think I saw in a controlled environment 6 days....Why do they send the Hazmat guys to disinfect the homes/apartments? (why risk exposure) Why don't they just seal them up for a week and they should be good to go... I'll answer my own question...Because the CDC doesn't really doesn't understand the disease or how to handle it.
Completely agree here.

I think you go in with hazmat team and bleach the bathrooms and collect bedding to be burned and lock that sucker up for 2 weeks with the heater set to 85.

Then you can go back in safely with a team to wipe down all other surfaces and handles and crap with bleach.

That being said they basically let the ebola man's family bathe in his juices for weeks and none of them got it.
Yeah this is mystifying.

 
TheIronSheik said:
culdeus said:
I think you go in with hazmat team and bleach the bathrooms and collect bedding to be burned and lock that sucker up for 2 weeks with the heater set to 85.
Not sure putting the heater on 85 would be the smart move. Probably better to put the AC on 40.
I believe ebola survives better outside the body in colder temps.

 
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TheIronSheik said:
culdeus said:
I think you go in with hazmat team and bleach the bathrooms and collect bedding to be burned and lock that sucker up for 2 weeks with the heater set to 85.
Not sure putting the heater on 85 would be the smart move. Probably better to put the AC on 40.
I believe ebola survives better outside the body in colder temps.
Really? Seems odd since the outbreak is happening in the hottest part of the planet.

 
cstu said:
The Commish said:
Sinn Fein said:
The problem with you Ham-nuts is that now every time someone sneezes, they think they have ebola, and they are going to overwhelm healthcare officials and keep them from treating actual ebola cases.

Congratulations - your paranoia has killed the world.
WHOLE lotta stupid in posts like this. There's plenty of room between "the world is coming to an end" and your "it's no big deal" shtick. Both extremes are pretty ignorant and lazy IMO.
I'm not making light of the fact people in the U.S. could die from ebola, but it's not going to be a SHTF situation. The second ebola starts to spread here people take their kids out of school and don't leave the house for a month. Then it's all over.
Yeah..but a month quarantine here in the US would bring about a host of other problems in today's world.

 
TheIronSheik said:
culdeus said:
I think you go in with hazmat team and bleach the bathrooms and collect bedding to be burned and lock that sucker up for 2 weeks with the heater set to 85.
Not sure putting the heater on 85 would be the smart move. Probably better to put the AC on 40.
I believe ebola survives better outside the body in colder temps.
Really? Seems odd since the outbreak is happening in the hottest part of the planet.
"A drop of blood can remain contagious outside the body. And virus particles can survive for days or weeks, depending on the environment. Ultraviolet light, heat and exposure to oxygen gradually deactivate the virus, while cooler temperatures and humidity help keep it active." NPR

The outbreak is in Africa because they're the only ones dumb enough to eat the virus' primary host (fruit bats). :lol:

 
TheIronSheik said:
culdeus said:
I think you go in with hazmat team and bleach the bathrooms and collect bedding to be burned and lock that sucker up for 2 weeks with the heater set to 85.
Not sure putting the heater on 85 would be the smart move. Probably better to put the AC on 40.
I believe ebola survives better outside the body in colder temps.
Really? Seems odd since the outbreak is happening in the hottest part of the planet.
"A drop of blood can remain contagious outside the body. And virus particles can survive for days or weeks, depending on the environment. Ultraviolet light, heat and exposure to oxygen gradually deactivate the virus, while cooler temperatures and humidity help keep it active." NPR

The outbreak is in Africa because they're the only ones dumb enough to eat the virus' primary host (fruit bats). :lol:
So if this thing hits a colder climate, will it spread much quicker?

 
TheIronSheik said:
culdeus said:
I think you go in with hazmat team and bleach the bathrooms and collect bedding to be burned and lock that sucker up for 2 weeks with the heater set to 85.
Not sure putting the heater on 85 would be the smart move. Probably better to put the AC on 40.
I believe ebola survives better outside the body in colder temps.
Really? Seems odd since the outbreak is happening in the hottest part of the planet.
"A drop of blood can remain contagious outside the body. And virus particles can survive for days or weeks, depending on the environment. Ultraviolet light, heat and exposure to oxygen gradually deactivate the virus, while cooler temperatures and humidity help keep it active." NPR

The outbreak is in Africa because they're the only ones dumb enough to eat the virus' primary host (fruit bats). :lol:
If it dies with oxidative stress then cooking it would surely wipe it out. Are they eating these bats raw?

 
It will be funny in a way if you have people that take tons of anti-oxidants and live a super clean eating life end up getting this more than those that smoke, drink, and eat tons of fast food.

 
Just heard that Mark Zuckerberg is giving 25 million to the CDC to help them fight this.
I'm going to send the CDC the same % of my vast fortune. Now where do I send this penny? The other 49 cents are going towards postage.
congrats. if you gave .50, your net worth is $662. To make you feel better, if your net worth is a cool million, you need to only give $755.29

 
Ditka Butkus said:
Here is what I don't understand....If ebola doesn't live outside of the body for very long....I think I saw in a controlled environment 6 days....Why do they send the Hazmat guys to disinfect the homes/apartments? (why risk exposure) Why don't they just seal them up for a week and they should be good to go... I'll answer my own question...Because the CDC doesn't really doesn't understand the disease or how to handle it.
Guessing here...but maybe they want to clean it up immediately and avoid the slight possibility that someone breaks in and starts spreading it.

 
Just heard that Mark Zuckerberg is giving 25 million to the CDC to help them fight this.
I'm going to send the CDC the same % of my vast fortune. Now where do I send this penny? The other 49 cents are going towards postage.
congrats. if you gave .50, your net worth is $662. To make you feel better, if your net worth is a cool million, you need to only give $755.29
Yep.

 
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Patient 0 in the states in Dallas

Nurse who treated him now being treated

now: Nurse's boyfriend symptomatic and hospitalized.

I'm no way near HAM level on this, but it doesn't take much for this to start to get away from us :unsure:
when you are reading redflagnews.com you are at Ham levels.
so I went trolling the right wing conspiracy sites (yeech I need a shower) to find the information. This one has an image of the email. Aassuming its real, I have doubts about it.

http://thecount.com/2014/10/14/nina-pham-boyfriend-ebola/ophthalmological-pharmaceutical-company-ebola-letter-2/

The email says as associate is being quarantined and monitored due to his close contact with the nurse. It also says the employee has not shown any symptoms or signs of Ebola.

And no, if you click on the link to see the email, its not that Jeff George.

 
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What good does freaking out about this do? I mean, if it is going to explode into a pandemic, there pretty much is nothing us regular joes can do about it anyway. Chill folks.

 
What good does freaking out about this do? I mean, if it is going to explode into a pandemic, there pretty much is nothing us regular joes can do about it anyway. Chill folks.
speak for yourself. I have my SCUBA tanks ready for the next time I need to take a train.

 

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