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Devil's Advocate

He has no room to run against the Raiders.

And somehow, I am 6-1.

As Michael Corleone said.... he's dead to me now.
I'm going to pretend he isn't even on my roster.

There is no winner in that trade.I hope I can deal Edge for Lamont this week.
the colts moved on as well, they could of kept him, but chose to spend their dollars elsewhere. can you really blame someone for wanting to be paid fair market value for their services?also, that perennial playoff team , is a loserCapella said:Personally I love it. Guy left a perennial playoff team to chase the huge dollars for one of the worst franchises in sports. I guess he'll have plenty of extra time to spend all that money in January.
You mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser
You mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser
what have the colts won? sure they get to the playoffs, are double digit favorites, and loseYou mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser![]()
seriously.No tppt, the Cards are losers. The Colts are one of the best franchises in the NFL.
the colts are great...in the regular seasonYou mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser
You mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser![]()
seriously.No tppt, the Cards are losers. The Colts are one of the best franchises in the NFL.
OK....I'd like to see this one backed up with facts. Show us all the times the Colts have been double digit favorites in the playoffs when they have lost.what have the colts won? sure they get to the playoffs, are double digit favorites, and loseYou mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser![]()
seriously.No tppt, the Cards are losers. The Colts are one of the best franchises in the NFL.
the first step to win the Superbowl is making the playoffswhat have the colts won? sure they get to the playoffs, are double digit favorites, and loseYou mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser![]()
seriously.No tppt, the Cards are losers. The Colts are one of the best franchises in the NFL.
So every team that doesn't win the Super Bowl is a loser?You mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser![]()
seriously.No tppt, the Cards are losers. The Colts are one of the best franchises in the NFL.
interesting criteria you must have.
Exactly what are the Colts the best at?It's all about Superbowls. Manning has 3-4 good years left. They've pretty much wasted 8 years with one of the best QBs and best WRs of all time posting insane records. And 0 SB appearances. And Manning has more or less sucked in the post season. The Colts are the 1990s Bills without the SB appearances. At least the Atlanta Braves won a WS.You mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser![]()
seriously.No tppt, the Cards are losers. The Colts are one of the best franchises in the NFL.
interesting criteria you must have.
Once - they lost to the Steelers. That's it. Unless you count Super Bowl III.OK....I'd like to see this one backed up with facts. Show us all the times the Colts have been double digit favorites in the playoffs when they have lost.what have the colts won? sure they get to the playoffs, are double digit favorites, and loseYou mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser![]()
seriously.No tppt, the Cards are losers. The Colts are one of the best franchises in the NFL.
yeah, they really f'ed up...Manning ~350/4the colts moved on as well, they could of kept him, but chose to spend their dollars elsewhere. can you really blame someone for wanting to be paid fair market value for their services?Capella said:Personally I love it. Guy left a perennial playoff team to chase the huge dollars for one of the worst franchises in sports. I guess he'll have plenty of extra time to spend all that money in January.
also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser
I love having Edge in my lineup. Being that I love college football so much, there is nothing better than having a running back decorate my scoreboard with a single-digit score for the day. Thank you Edge.yeah, they really f'ed up...Manning ~350/4the colts moved on as well, they could of kept him, but chose to spend their dollars elsewhere. can you really blame someone for wanting to be paid fair market value for their services?Capella said:Personally I love it. Guy left a perennial playoff team to chase the huge dollars for one of the worst franchises in sports. I guess he'll have plenty of extra time to spend all that money in January.
also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser
Addai 13-85
Wayne 122-1
Harrison 78-2
Clark 40-1
they really suck, now that Edge left for the green!
nobody said the colts and cards were on the same level. you said they were one of THE BEST franchises, to which iSo every team that doesn't win the Super Bowl is a loser?You mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser![]()
seriously.No tppt, the Cards are losers. The Colts are one of the best franchises in the NFL.
interesting criteria you must have.
If you think the Colts and the Cards are the same level of franchise, let me know now so I can stop wasting my time here.
It will get worse when the team decides to give up on the coaches in about two more weeks. If anything I think he's a sell high.E James can be had for absolute scraps right now. Can his value get any lower? Anyone trying to trade for him - or is it a complete waste of time? It looks like the rest of AZ's schedule is against the top half rushing defenses except for St. Louis (week 13) and SF (week 16).
Dude, if you can sell at all, you're doing better than most. Anybody that can't get it done against the Raiders this year truly and honestly blows.It will get worse when the team decides to give up on the coaches in about two more weeks. If anything I think he's a sell high.E James can be had for absolute scraps right now. Can his value get any lower? Anyone trying to trade for him - or is it a complete waste of time? It looks like the rest of AZ's schedule is against the top half rushing defenses except for St. Louis (week 13) and SF (week 16).
Watch for the coaching change..... then look at JJADid anyone follow the game or know why Arrington didn't get more involved? I was really starting to think that they may try to work him in a little more to see if he can shake things up.
Good luck with that!I tried to package Edge -with- Randy Moss this past week, and although I got close to getting some decent value from a couple of owners, every deal fell through. Kinda glad I didn't move Moss now, at least. He finally looks like he has a pulse, even though he dropped a few catchable balls -- one which would have been another TD. Granted, it WAS against Arizona. But it's still encouraging.Sorry.... I digress. Edge is completely useless. Discuss.E James can be had for absolute scraps right now. Can his value get any lower? Anyone trying to trade him - or is it a complete waste of time?
LOL, I just offered this trade in my league as a pathetic LJ owner.BTW, I have to admit I thought Edge would overcome his O-Line issues this season. There was just no way I would have pegged him as another JJ Arrington.I hope I can deal Edge for Lamont this week.
Didn't they already give up on the Offensive Coordinator??It will get worse when the team decides to give up on the coaches in about two more weeks. If anything I think he's a sell high.E James can be had for absolute scraps right now. Can his value get any lower? Anyone trying to trade for him - or is it a complete waste of time? It looks like the rest of AZ's schedule is against the top half rushing defenses except for St. Louis (week 13) and SF (week 16).
Edge is the new Dickerson?Capella said:Personally I love it. Guy left a perennial playoff team to chase the huge dollars for one of the worst franchises in sports. I guess he'll have plenty of extra time to spend all that money in January.
Depends. Will they hire Jack Pardee or June Jones as the head coach?Edge MIGHT be effective in the Lorenzo White role in a Run 'n Shoot offense. Go 4-wide with Boldin, Fitz, Edwards and Johnson. If he still can't find any holes, he's toast. Hell, Gary Brown and Erric Pegram were beasts in that offense.for all of the dynasty people, any hope for the cardinals franchise in the future with Edge?
Perhaps, but he's doing them no favors.He looks slower than Gilbert Brown running the ball.kutta said:He sucks.no HE doesn't .... his line does.
What a completely ignorant statement. With a screen name of ChampBailey, I would think you would know better. The Colts did lose in the first round last year arguably due to a death to Tony Dungy's son. Do you happen to remember who the Colts played in the first round the prior two years before that? They made our beloved Broncos look like their little whipping boys two years in a row. As a life long Broncos fan I request that you change your avatar and screen name immediately. Either that or quit posting idiotic statements.The Colts are one of the upper class franchises in the league. The Cards are not.Edge helped win me a fantasy championship in 2005. I stayed far far away in 2006.The Cards are losers, and the Colts are chokers. One team can't get in the playoffs while the other team can't get past their first playoff game.
First: props to the Edge owners for keeping a stiff upper lip. You knew what you were worried about and you're accepting its reality with good humor.Second: Looking at the stats of the Colts' RBs, I'd say Edge was about the same as they are on average. Personally, I think Edge is an average RB, not particularly fast or slow, strong or weak - never has been, never will be.One could certainly view the Cards like the Bengals three years ago: promising young QB, good supporting cast, but mediocre defense and no mojo (yet).Dynasty wise, you certainly can't give up on a RB that's earning so much money - he's going to keep starting and having the occaisional good game. His upside is obviously huge.Redraft wise, I don't think he's going to do much this year - perhaps scoring around #25 for RBs.- - - - One last thing: give me a break about second guessing his drive for money - every one of us (or at least 99% of us) are looking for more money in our chosen (or optional) profession and even fewer care that our company is #1 in the world as long as we're getting paid well.for all of the dynasty people, any hope for the cardinals franchise in the future with Edge?
Why should edge take less money to win when the other colts clearly aren't? Wayne, Manning, Simon, etc. And those players that do take less money, like Brady, watch their team sit on tons of cap room. I'd chase the dollars too.I'm going to wait until he scores the third of his four TDs for this season and try to peddle him for a #3 WR. Too bad the guy gave up any chance at a ring by leaving Indy for the scratch. Money is important but the ring is ALL IMPORTANT and the money will follow.
Hmm. I'm not sure which answer you want:A whole lot more games than the Cardinals?More playoff games than the Cardinals? More respect?The right to not be a laughingstock franchise?Here's the complete list of franchises with less playoff wins than the Cardinals since the Super Bowl was born - note: Browns have all the old Browns history:Houston Texans.That's it, one recent expanison team. The Cardinals are almost as good as the Clippers are in basketball, but not quite.what have the colts won? sure they get to the playoffs, are double digit favorites, and loseYou mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser![]()
seriously.No tppt, the Cards are losers. The Colts are one of the best franchises in the NFL.
He used to break tackles.I understand that getting hit in the backfield on nearly every handoff can break a man's spirit, but he rarely breaks tackles anymore. I don't know if it's age, disgust, or being content with a fat contract, but that's where we are.Looking at the stats of the Colts' RBs, I'd say Edge was about the same as they are on average. Personally, I think Edge is an average RB, not particularly fast or slow, strong or weak - never has been, never will be.for all of the dynasty people, any hope for the cardinals franchise in the future with Edge?
I'm sure Cardinals fans everywhere would love to support that kind of "loser."what have the colts won? sure they get to the playoffs, are double digit favorites, and loseYou mean the UNDEFEATED Colts? Uh, okay...if you say so.also, that perennial playoff team , is a loser![]()
seriously.No tppt, the Cards are losers. The Colts are one of the best franchises in the NFL.
What a completely ignorant statement. With a screen name of ChampBailey, I would think you would know better. The Colts did lose in the first round last year arguably due to a death to Tony Dungy's son. Do you happen to remember who the Colts played in the first round the prior two years before that? They made our beloved Broncos look like their little whipping boys two years in a row. As a life long Broncos fan I request that you change your avatar and screen name immediately. Either that or quit posting idiotic statements.The Colts are one of the upper class franchises in the league. The Cards are not.Edge helped win me a fantasy championship in 2005. I stayed far far away in 2006.The Cards are losers, and the Colts are chokers. One team can't get in the playoffs while the other team can't get past their first playoff game.
Tell me about it, but Bono gets all the attention.Edge is AWESOME!
It was the money!!! DUH. Come on you should have known that ARZ is a running back grave yard. Man I sure am glad I traded James for Holt straight up in a dynasty league at the beginning of the year.The Associated Press reports Arizona Cardinals RB Edgerrin James is beginning to question why he left the Indianapolis Colts over the offseason. James carried the ball 13 times for 34 during the Week 7 game and has failed to top 100 rushing yards in a single game all season. "I wasn't prepared for this, man, I really wasn't. I don't know what we're doing now," said James.