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ExtraPoint
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Everyone knows he wants to play in Miami
Toxic Gatorade
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I'm not sure where Edge will end up........but it certainly won't be in INDY.
zamboni
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Edge seems pretty powerful to me. I would bet opposing defenses would concur.I agree with jurb26 in terms of Edge being a critical component part of that offense, considering how much they've gone to a more balanced attack. I'm not convinced that you can just plug and play any decent RB back there with similar success.
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SammyJankis
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I bumped this up to add that on PTI yesterday that a columnist from the Indianapolis star and asked him if he thought James would be back next year. He stated that in his opinion, there was an 80% chance that Edge would be playing somewhere else next year. He said that it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to pay James a truckload of money, when you don't even make your RB your go-to guy in the biggest game of the year. He also said that good RBs can be had relatively cheaply and that locking older guys to long term contracts. He said that the Colts want to avoid a situation like the Titans, where many older players are tied into long-term big-money deals, but are underperforming, handcuffing the team's ability to rebuild.No transcript (I paraphrased all of the above) and this is just a columnist's opinion. Howver, this is definately a guy in the know with regard to the Colts, so I think he's likely on to something.
Facenda's Voice
Footballguy
Sounds smart to me.
msommer
Footballguy
Completely agree - I doubt Dominic Rhodes is the answer - there is always the draft but letting Edge go before then and hope the right guy falls - that is a dangerous strategy
I agree with jurb26 in terms of Edge being a critical component part of that offense, considering how much they've gone to a more balanced attack. I'm not convinced that you can just plug and play any decent RB back there with similar success.
pricklypete
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Part of me really wants Edge to go to another team, just for the fact that they will finally realize how important he was to the offense.This isn't the type of offense you can just plug a guy into and expect to excel.If you thought Manning was whining during the Pitt game, wait until you have a rookie trying to pick up blitzing LBs.I hope James goes somewhere and gets the money and the respect he deserves.Manning threw him under the bus just as much as the O-Line.
Team Legacy
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Living here in Indy, my GUT tells me that if Edge is allowed to play anywhere he wants, he'll choose a florida team.Since Miami and Tampa have their backs for the future, that leaves Jacksonville. Fred T is washed up, and Greg Jones is .. well, a fullback.Edge in a Jaguar uniform would be NASTY news for Colts fans.Need to research how this works though. If the Colts have anything to say about where Edge plays, I can't imagine them allowing the Jags to get their hands on him.
pricklypete
Footballguy
He is an UFA.
Team Legacy
Footballguy
People need to get off this kick. Manning STATED THE OBVIOUS. Manning was on his ### all day.
The line allowed a league LOW 20 sacks and Pitt got to him 5 times and countless others.
Stating we had protection problems is not throwing anybody under the bus. It was obvious to anybody that saw the game, whether at the Dome, at home on TV or on the Moon. He was on his ### all day. That's PROTECTION PROBLEMS.
pricklypete
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They could do that, but I think they are going to run a high risk of him holding out.He wasn't real happy about it last year.
Also, I'm not sure what type of cap implications that would have on 2006.
I wish he would have put the clause in his contract like Alexander did to prevent being named franchise player again.
Facenda's Voice
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Don't waste your breath. There are so many Manning haters on this board nothing you say will change their minds. It's a way to make up for their meaningless and pathetic lives. You know, to make them feel better about themselves.
kutta
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He didn't just say, "We had some protection problems." He prefaced it with something like, "I'm trying to be a good teammate here, but, well, let's just say we had protection problems." He was basically calling people out. He could have just said that the Pitt D played a great game and got to him, or something like that. Instead he called out his own guys.
pricklypete
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Sorry, I'm not a Manning hater.I'm actually a fan of his.I don't care what line would have been playing in that game, the end result would have been the same.When a defense doesn't have to play the run, it really isn't that hard to rush an immobile QB.Sorry if being realistic makes my life "pathetic", but that's how it is.
Facenda's Voice
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Why is that? It's the truth, and by saying we had protection problems is stating it in a nice way. He's the coach on the field, so answering a question and stating the obvious in a nice way doesn't mean throwing someone under the bus.
Facenda's Voice
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The answer to all of this, is that the Colts coaches, OL, and Manning haven't mastered how to deal with the 3-4 defense. They had trouble with Baltimore, New England, and now Pittsburgh. Yes they beat Baltimore, but I hope you see what I'm getting at.
Wadsworth
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If the colts let Edge walk then they had better get someone to replace him. In the past when Edge was not playing or playing while still recovering from injury the offense has suffered. Manning's first three seasons his QB rating climbed. 71.2, 90.7, 94.7.Then when Edge went down with the injury, 84.1 and then following season 88.8.In 2003 with Edge basically back in form, 99.0 and over 100 the past two seasons.I know that QB rating is a flawed stat, but Edge has been a big part of the successs of that team. Without some respect for the run defenses will be in Manning's face more often and Manning will be throwing his O-linemen under the bus a lot more often.
pricklypete
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Out of all of the possiblities of teams he could go to, which would be "best case scenario".JacksonvilleArizonaCarolinaOthers?Obviously everything is speculation at this point, but you never know.Carolina would be an interesting one.Edited to add: Best scenario which isn't the Colts.
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ComebackKurt
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Edge to JAX makes sense to me. That team IMO is already the favorite to come out of the AFC South next year . . . gaining Edge would soldify this.
RANKED BY BEST FIT...
1. INDY - obvioulsy a great fit
2. JAX - great team, great fit... freddie is a cap casualty most likely.
3. ARZ - if the oline isn't better it won't matter, but could crack 1000 regardless.
4. CAR - davis is done & foster stold freddie t's nickname - fragile foster.
5. DEN - if they would consider Ricky? Wow would this be something to watch?
6. BALT - assuming JLewis isn't re-signed and ctaylor isn't the guy.
7. GB - cap room probably not, but I am sure they would love to have him.
8. SEA - if alexander bolts via FA, wouldn't this be a nice replacement?
9. MIN - childress and vikes might want to make a splash in FA?
My big gut tells me that he is a Carolina Panther next year.
RANKED BY BEST FIT...
1. INDY - obvioulsy a great fit
2. JAX - great team, great fit... freddie is a cap casualty most likely.
3. ARZ - if the oline isn't better it won't matter, but could crack 1000 regardless.
4. CAR - davis is done & foster stold freddie t's nickname - fragile foster.
5. DEN - if they would consider Ricky? Wow would this be something to watch?
6. BALT - assuming JLewis isn't re-signed and ctaylor isn't the guy.
7. GB - cap room probably not, but I am sure they would love to have him.
8. SEA - if alexander bolts via FA, wouldn't this be a nice replacement?
9. MIN - childress and vikes might want to make a splash in FA?
My big gut tells me that he is a Carolina Panther next year.
I think that would make his salary about 9.7 mil. I don't think they'll franchise him. I have recently looked for old "Polian's Corner" with out much luck, but about mid-season he did mention how much James touched the ball and that he had a lot of miles on him. Something to that effect anyway.So as much as I would like to see him stay in Indy, and as valuable I believe he is to the Colts, I won't be surprised to see him somewhere else next year.
yetiknight
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Sadly, Edge could have a long shot at some career records if he stays a Colt and stays healthy.I think he ends up in Carolina. Everyone will find out quickly that Edge IS one of the two or three best backs in the league. They will also find out that his achilles heal is short yardage and watch Davis collect ten or more touchdowns. 
pizzatyme
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Here is my take on this situation...To keep Edge next season they either have to sign him to a long-term deal or pay him under the franchise tag which will be about $11Million.Neither will happen unless Manning restructures.Wayne will either be signed or franchised.Look for the Colts to go OL and RB with their first 2 picks. I think they get a serviceable RB in FA for less money than Edge. Maybe a Travis Henry-type.Bob Kravitz likes to stir the pot. But, the jist of it is they don't count on him in the crunch, Manning is the golden-boy and therefore, he trumps all.I am starting to look at Peyton as I do Kobe Bryant. And I don't like what I see.
Give the MVP a little more respect
Rockchild
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Listening to Chris Mortenson on ESPN Radio this afternoon, he indicated that the labour agreement between the the league and union would go a long way in whether James and Wayne remain with Indy. If a new agreement is reached then any bonus can be spread over 6 or 7 years. If there is no extension then any signing bonus can only be prorated over 4 years in which case he doubts James would be retained.The holdup in the agreement is not between the union and the league but within ownership circles as some teams do not want to share more revenue with other teams.Again, this was from the radio so I do not have a link. 
purestrength
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First off, I hope the Colts keep Edge.But if they don't, I'd like to see them swing a deal for Thomas Jones (see thread about TJ possibly being cut by the Bears).I think Jones could thrive in the Colts' offense (until they forget to use him in the postseason).
purestrength
Footballguy
Edge on the Steelers in '06 = Possible MVP.
Rev
Footballguy
I just don't understand why people laugh Dominic Rhodes off as a rediculous option to the departed James (if he goes). The guy already has a 1,000 yard season under his belt in replacement of James, and he's now further along in his experience, healing, and recieving ability. Plus, I daresay that the Colts have grown as a passing team since Rhodes' run as a starter, so that opposing defenses simply cannot affort to stack the line.
I'm not saying that the Colts WONT go after a FA or draft a RB, but that they wont be able to pay for a top tier player (otherwise they'd keep James), and that they will give Rhodes a chance. And if they give him a shot to retain the spot, they wont be doing so out of ignorance or foolishness.
I'm not saying that the Colts WONT go after a FA or draft a RB, but that they wont be able to pay for a top tier player (otherwise they'd keep James), and that they will give Rhodes a chance. And if they give him a shot to retain the spot, they wont be doing so out of ignorance or foolishness.
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