Egypt blowing up (again) (1 Viewer)

[pittstownkiller]

Egypts military is about to step in and give a 48 hour window for Morsi and the protesters to come to an agreement. Talks of a military coup starting.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/blogEntry?id=19539377&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Degypt%2Bprotests%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari

 

[johnnycakes]

I have been sidetracked with the Aaron Hernandez story. From what I have read, the Egyptian people are fed up with the Muslim Brotherhood? What's this all about over there?

 

[glumpy]

I have been sidetracked with the Aaron Hernandez story. From what I have read, the Egyptian people are fed up with the Muslim Brotherhood? What's this all about over there?

I think that pretty well sums it up.

 

[timschochet]

A military coup might be good for us at this point. But it's not going to solve the problem.

The problem is unemployment and inflation. People can't afford to live. It was bad enough under Mubarik, but in the past year it's gotten worse because a significant chunk of their economy was based on tourism, and now that's all dried up. Westerners aren't coming to see the pyramids anymore. Would you?

Ever since Arab Spring, people have been making comparisons to the Iranian revolution of 1979. But it's not similar. That was a cultural and religious revolution. This one is far simpler. People are hungry.

 

[pittstownkiller]

I have been sidetracked with the Aaron Hernandez story. From what I have read, the Egyptian people are fed up with the Muslim Brotherhood? What's this all about over there?

It seems that Morsi is on his last leg. The coup angle is interesting, since Obama gave a speech 2 years ago decrying Egypt's military effort to bring calm and their resistance to seating the Muslim Brotherhood as a ruling authority.

 

[timschochet]

I have been sidetracked with the Aaron Hernandez story. From what I have read, the Egyptian people are fed up with the Muslim Brotherhood? What's this all about over there?

I think that pretty well sums it up.

Theyre not necessarily fed up with the politics of the Muslim Brotherhood. They're fed up because the government hasn't been able to do anything about their hunger and unemployment woes.

 

[johnnycakes]

A military coup might be good for us at this point. But it's not going to solve the problem.

The problem is unemployment and inflation. People can't afford to live. It was bad enough under Mubarik, but in the past year it's gotten worse because a significant chunk of their economy was based on tourism, and now that's all dried up. Westerners aren't coming to see the pyramids anymore. Would you?

Ever since Arab Spring, people have been making comparisons to the Iranian revolution of 1979. But it's not similar. That was a cultural and religious revolution. This one is far simpler. People are hungry.

Have you seen the latest round of grizzly videos of people being beheaded in Syria? No way I would be going to any mooslim country these days.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I don't understand why news organizations keep sending female reporters to Egypt. It's just sheer negligence and recklessness at this point.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4399041,00.html

:(

 

[Otis]

I don't understand why news organizations keep sending female reporters to Egypt. It's just sheer negligence and recklessness at this point.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4399041,00.html

:(

Animals. What is wrong with people?

Just nuke the square at this point imo

 

[T Bell]

A military coup might be good for us at this point. But it's not going to solve the problem.

The problem is unemployment and inflation. People can't afford to live. It was bad enough under Mubarik, but in the past year it's gotten worse because a significant chunk of their economy was based on tourism, and now that's all dried up. Westerners aren't coming to see the pyramids anymore. Would you?

Ever since Arab Spring, people have been making comparisons to the Iranian revolution of 1979. But it's not similar. That was a cultural and religious revolution. This one is far simpler. People are hungry.

Have you seen the latest round of grizzly videos of people being beheaded in Syria? No way I would be going to any mooslim country these days.

There are plenty of Muslim countries I'd go to. Morocco for one looks awesome.

 

[rascal]

A military coup might be good for us at this point. But it's not going to solve the problem.

The problem is unemployment and inflation. People can't afford to live. It was bad enough under Mubarik, but in the past year it's gotten worse because a significant chunk of their economy was based on tourism, and now that's all dried up. Westerners aren't coming to see the pyramids anymore. Would you?

Ever since Arab Spring, people have been making comparisons to the Iranian revolution of 1979. But it's not similar. That was a cultural and religious revolution. This one is far simpler. People are hungry.

Have you seen the latest round of grizzly videos of people being beheaded in Syria? No way I would be going to any mooslim country these days.

There are plenty of Muslim countries I'd go to. Morocco for one looks awesome.

I went to Morocco, Turkey, and Egypt about 6 years ago. Turkey and Morocco were awesome. Cairo was, "lets hurry up and see the pyramids and get the #### out"...although alexandria was decent.

 

[wazoo11]

I don't understand why news organizations keep sending female reporters to Egypt. It's just sheer negligence and recklessness at this point.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4399041,00.html

:(

Animals. What is wrong with people?

Just nuke the square at this point imo

Yeah, let's just wipe out what just use to be the pinnacle of ancient civilization.

 

[glumpy]

I have been sidetracked with the Aaron Hernandez story. From what I have read, the Egyptian people are fed up with the Muslim Brotherhood? What's this all about over there?

I think that pretty well sums it up.

Theyre not necessarily fed up with the politics of the Muslim Brotherhood. They're fed up because the government hasn't been able to do anything about their hunger and unemployment woes.

That may be perceived as one and the same, if it's a drop in tourist dollars which is fueling the problem.

 

[T Bell]

I have been sidetracked with the Aaron Hernandez story. From what I have read, the Egyptian people are fed up with the Muslim Brotherhood? What's this all about over there?

I think that pretty well sums it up.

Theyre not necessarily fed up with the politics of the Muslim Brotherhood. They're fed up because the government hasn't been able to do anything about their hunger and unemployment woes.

That may be perceived as one and the same, if it's a drop in tourist dollars which is fueling the problem.

Funny irony there - the revolution itself is scaring away tourists who would otherwise be funding some of Morsi's reforms.

 

[shader]

I don't understand why news organizations keep sending female reporters to Egypt. It's just sheer negligence and recklessness at this point.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4399041,00.html

:(

Animals. What is wrong with people?

Just nuke the square at this point imo

Mass murder is an interesting suggestion.

 

[glumpy]

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/01/19229528-egypts-military-gives-morsi-48-hour-ultimatum-threatens-to-intervene?ocid=msnhp&pos=2 Not sure why so much trouble with url's

This article suggests that assuming power is not what the Army is looking to do--but it's volatile enough to go anywhere imo.

It was unclear if the military was effectively demanding Morsi's resignation and a Muslim Brotherhood politician insisted there would not be "a coup."

Sixteen people were killed and more than 700 were wounded during the protests Sunday and early Monday.

The military statement stressed that the military would remain neutral in politics and maintain its role as protector of the people and the nation’s borders.

The statement said the military will "not be a party in politics or rule."

But it added the armed forces had a responsibility to act because Egypt's national security was facing a "grave danger."

 

[St. Louis Bob]

I don't understand why news organizations keep sending female reporters to Egypt. It's just sheer negligence and recklessness at this point.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4399041,00.html

:(

Animals. What is wrong with people?

Just nuke the square at this point imo

Yeah, let's just wipe out what just use to be the pinnacle of ancient civilization.

So use a neutron bomb. I've had it with all of these animals too.

 

[johnnycakes]

This article suggests that assuming power is not what the Army is looking to do--but it's volatile enough to go anywhere imo.

It was unclear if the military was effectively demanding Morsi's resignation and a Muslim Brotherhood politician insisted there would not be "a coup."

Sixteen people were killed and more than 700 were wounded during the protests Sunday and early Monday.

The military statement stressed that the military would remain neutral in politics and maintain its role as protector of the people and the nation’s borders.

The statement said the military will "not be a party in politics or rule."

But it added the armed forces had a responsibility to act because Egypt's national security was facing a "grave danger."

The article in the WSJ this afternoon says, "Egypt's military gave Mohammed Morsi a 48-hour ultimatum to 'resolve the crisis' before the military intervenes...

"If the people's demands are not met, the military, which is forced to act according to its role and duty, will have to disclose its own future plan, said General Abdel Fattah Al Sisi, Egypt's defense minister and the head of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces...."

Looks like Mohammed Morsi is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Speaking of Mohammed... anyone else hear of Jihawg Ammo... putting the ham in Mohammed?!?

 

[Gawain]

A military coup might be good for us at this point. But it's not going to solve the problem.

The problem is unemployment and inflation. People can't afford to live. It was bad enough under Mubarik, but in the past year it's gotten worse because a significant chunk of their economy was based on tourism, and now that's all dried up. Westerners aren't coming to see the pyramids anymore. Would you?

Ever since Arab Spring, people have been making comparisons to the Iranian revolution of 1979. But it's not similar. That was a cultural and religious revolution. This one is far simpler. People are hungry.

Have you seen the latest round of grizzly videos of people being beheaded in Syria? No way I would be going to any mooslim country these days.

There are plenty of Muslim countries I'd go to. Morocco for one looks awesome.

Wife wants to go to the Maldives before we have a kid. I'm fighting her tooth and nail because you never know when a Muslim country might blow up. There's enough interesting places where I don't have to worry about my Sharia'a law, getting blacklisted for a Bible or lashes for fornication.

 

[johnnycakes]

A military coup might be good for us at this point. But it's not going to solve the problem.

The problem is unemployment and inflation. People can't afford to live. It was bad enough under Mubarik, but in the past year it's gotten worse because a significant chunk of their economy was based on tourism, and now that's all dried up. Westerners aren't coming to see the pyramids anymore. Would you?

Ever since Arab Spring, people have been making comparisons to the Iranian revolution of 1979. But it's not similar. That was a cultural and religious revolution. This one is far simpler. People are hungry.

Have you seen the latest round of grizzly videos of people being beheaded in Syria? No way I would be going to any mooslim country these days.

There are plenty of Muslim countries I'd go to. Morocco for one looks awesome.

Wife wants to go to the Maldives before we have a kid. I'm fighting her tooth and nail because you never know when a Muslim country might blow up. There's enough interesting places where I don't have to worry about my Sharia'a law, getting blacklisted for a Bible or lashes for fornication.

Yeah, something about going to a place where I could be labeled an 'infidel' and beheaded in a most gruesome fashion by an angry flash mob somehow doesn't jive with my idea of a relaxing holiday.

 

[jonessed]

I have been sidetracked with the Aaron Hernandez story. From what I have read, the Egyptian people are fed up with the Muslim Brotherhood? What's this all about over there?

I think that pretty well sums it up.

Theyre not necessarily fed up with the politics of the Muslim Brotherhood. They're fed up because the government hasn't been able to do anything about their hunger and unemployment woes.

That may be perceived as one and the same, if it's a drop in tourist dollars which is fueling the problem.

The constitution that was rammed through was incredibly divisive. The country was pretty split from a civil rights/political perspective. This new revolution is a mix of the former opposition that felt The Muslim Brotherhood was simply protecting Islamists and the moderates who were originally willing to give The Muslim Brotherhood a chance. That's why the military is stepping in. The opposition to The Muslim Brotherhood rule is coming from everywhere now.Ironically, if Morsi wasn't so politically divisive with the constitution he likely could have rode out the economic distress. He basically ####ed up everything. I doubt the current constitution will even be standing by the end of this.

 

[Sand]

The problem is unemployment and inflation. People can't afford to live. It was bad enough under Mubarik, but in the past year it's gotten worse because a significant chunk of their economy was based on tourism, and now that's all dried up. Westerners aren't coming to see the pyramids anymore. Would you?

Nope. Certainly would never bring my wife.

 

[GroveDiesel]

I have a friend that had a surprise trip all planned out for his fiance. She has always dreamed of seeing the pyramids in Egypt. No chance that is happening now.

 

[T Bell]

I have a friend that had a surprise trip all planned out for his fiance. She has always dreamed of seeing the pyramids in Egypt. No chance that is happening now.

The woman was promised pyramids, man. Where's he taking her? The Luxor?

 

[GroveDiesel]

I have a friend that had a surprise trip all planned out for his fiance. She has always dreamed of seeing the pyramids in Egypt. No chance that is happening now.

The woman was promised pyramids, man. Where's he taking her? The Luxor?

She doesn't even know he was planning it. Mt guess is that she'll be just as happy with Hawaii or Venice.

 

[stbugs]

I don't understand why news organizations keep sending female reporters to Egypt. It's just sheer negligence and recklessness at this point.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4399041,00.html

:(

Animals. What is wrong with people?

Just nuke the square at this point imo

Yeah, let's just wipe out what just use to be the pinnacle of ancient civilization.

So use a neutron bomb. I've had it with all of these animals too.

Man, the world would be way better off without a lot of people. Disgusting to watch these idiots decrying all kinds of western culture while videotaping beheadings on their smartphones.

 

[Gawain]

My mother is planning on retiring as a Presbyterian minister in the next 18 months. She's been planning to go to Africa, South Ethiopia to be specific, to teach English at one of the convent schools that the Catholic Church runs there. I realize that Ethiopia isn't a Muslim majority, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried at all.

 

[T Bell]

I have a friend that had a surprise trip all planned out for his fiance. She has always dreamed of seeing the pyramids in Egypt. No chance that is happening now.

The woman was promised pyramids, man. Where's he taking her? The Luxor?

She doesn't even know he was planning it. Mt guess is that she'll be just as happy with Hawaii or Venice.

I guess volcanoes might look like pyramids from some angle, but I don't even know what you do with Venice.

 

[T Bell]

My mother is planning on retiring as a Presbyterian minister in the next 18 months. She's been planning to go to Africa, South Ethiopia to be specific, to teach English at one of the convent schools that the Catholic Church runs there. I realize that Ethiopia isn't a Muslim majority, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried at all.

Ethiopians are mostly Coptic Christians.

I'd think they'd make good roommates - they don't eat much.

 

[Fennis]

A military coup might be good for us at this point. But it's not going to solve the problem.

The problem is unemployment and inflation. People can't afford to live. It was bad enough under Mubarik, but in the past year it's gotten worse because a significant chunk of their economy was based on tourism, and now that's all dried up. Westerners aren't coming to see the pyramids anymore. Would you?

Ever since Arab Spring, people have been making comparisons to the Iranian revolution of 1979. But it's not similar. That was a cultural and religious revolution. This one is far simpler. People are hungry.

Have you seen the latest round of grizzly videos of people being beheaded in Syria? No way I would be going to any mooslim country these days.

There are plenty of Muslim countries I'd go to. Morocco for one looks awesome.

I went to Morocco, Turkey, and Egypt about 6 years ago. Turkey and Morocco were awesome. Cairo was, "lets hurry up and see the pyramids and get the #### out"...although alexandria was decent.

I was in Egypt and Turkey in November, 2012.

Its really sad how poor Egypt is. I knew they had poverty, but it was much wider spread than any other country I had been to. It was also a very dirty place with a ton of infrastructure problems. I met some very interesting people who were really trying to improve their lives. A couple of them I think of often, I hope they are OK.

 

[Fennis]

I just found out that the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces posted their ultimatum to Morsi on their Facebook page. We live in one crazy world.

 

[Guster]

I just found out that the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces posted their ultimatum to Morsi on their Facebook page. We live in one crazy world.

You serious, Clark?

 

[pittstownkiller]

Mubarek will be reseated and he will be pissed off at America for throwing him under the bus.

 

[The Duff Man]

I have an Egyptian colleague who sells building equipment. He told me they sent him on machine gun training since he travels the area a lot and he had to get one.

Unreal how you can live like that. When I saw him a month ago he was planning to move here, when I asked him where he said it doesnt really matter! Hard to fathom having to leave your place of birth due to circumstances like this.

I will point him to the appropriate thread. Hope he stays safe :(

 

[Kal El]

Pretty sure they just had a revolution, didn't they? If they hate the guy so much, why did they vote for him?

 

[jamny]

How much time left before the deadline?

 

[Kal El]

I have a friend that had a surprise trip all planned out for his fiance. She has always dreamed of seeing the pyramids in Egypt. No chance that is happening now.

The woman was promised pyramids, man. Where's he taking her? The Luxor?

There are several pyramids in Central American nations where the chance of a female getting raped is considerably lessened.

 

[johnnycakes]

How much time left before the deadline?

The deadline has passed. From today's WSJ:

CAIRO—Egypt's embattled President Mohammed Morsi proposed a consensus government as a way out of the country's crisis, as an army deadline urging him to meet protesters' demands expired.

Egypt's state television, meanwhile, announced that the armed forces' leadership was meeting with Mohammed ElBaradei—the designated spokesman for the June 30 Front that represents the opposition—and other activists. The military would release a statement once the meeting had concluded, the official state television added.

 

[T Bell]

I have a friend that had a surprise trip all planned out for his fiance. She has always dreamed of seeing the pyramids in Egypt. No chance that is happening now.

The woman was promised pyramids, man. Where's he taking her? The Luxor?

There are several pyramids in Central American nations where the chance of a female getting raped is considerably lessened.

"Honey? I don't remember there being so many trees around the pyramids in those picture we were looking at..."

 

[johnnycakes]

I have a friend that had a surprise trip all planned out for his fiance. She has always dreamed of seeing the pyramids in Egypt. No chance that is happening now.

The woman was promised pyramids, man. Where's he taking her? The Luxor?

There are several pyramids in Central American nations where the chance of a female getting raped is considerably lessened.

"Honey? I don't remember there being so many trees around the pyramids in those picture we were looking at..."

And if you hear anyone yelling "Allahu Akbahr", it may be time to leave.

 

[Billy Bats]

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/01/19229528-egypts-military-gives-morsi-48-hour-ultimatum-threatens-to-intervene?ocid=msnhp&pos=2 Not sure why so much trouble with url's

This article suggests that assuming power is not what the Army is looking to do--but it's volatile enough to go anywhere imo.

It was unclear if the military was effectively demanding Morsi's resignation and a Muslim Brotherhood politician insisted there would not be "a coup."

Sixteen people were killed and more than 700 were wounded during the protests Sunday and early Monday.

The military statement stressed that the military would remain neutral in politics and maintain its role as protector of the people and the nation’s borders.

The statement said the military will "not be a party in politics or rule."

But it added the armed forces had a responsibility to act because Egypt's national security was facing a "grave danger."

Sounds like they recently watched Gladiator.

 

[jonessed]

Morsi must be a serious hard-liner. Compromise is anathema to him.

 

[Fennis]

I have a friend that had a surprise trip all planned out for his fiance. She has always dreamed of seeing the pyramids in Egypt. No chance that is happening now.

The woman was promised pyramids, man. Where's he taking her? The Luxor?

There are several pyramids in Central American nations where the chance of a female getting raped is considerably lessened.

The pyramids in Mexico don't compare to the ones in Egypt.

 

[Fennis]

Pretty sure they just had a revolution, didn't they? If they hate the guy so much, why did they vote for him?

Not everyone voted for him and not everyone hates him.

 

[Fennis]

Egyptian blogger Su Zee tweeted: "And in typical Egyptian fashion, #egypt is late for its own coup."

 

[pittstownkiller]

It seems it took Egypt only two years to throw off its Muslim overlord.

 

[financewonk]

I got a kick out of this picture

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qkeWcCGDZ0Y/UdItUdTkHOI/AAAAAAABNRA/XkM3Gy0ZIUM/s600/130701-obama-egypt-054.jpg

 

[T Bell]

Morsi>wait

 

[johnnycakes]

I got a kick out of this picture

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-qkeWcCGDZ0Y/UdItUdTkHOI/AAAAAAABNRA/XkM3Gy0ZIUM/s600/130701-obama-egypt-054.jpg

I can tell you the 0 is getting mean-mouthed an awful lot over in the Middle East. When he was first elected, a lot of people thought the Arabs would love him. I get the feeling he's not too popular over there, though. And don't even get started on the whole Syria abortion.

 

[Fennis]

It seems it took Egypt only two years to throw off its Muslim overlord.

Well he is a USC grad.