Eli stands alone (1 Viewer)

[Klimtology]

A very good read.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Artic...ands_alone.html

 

[Jason Wood]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

 

[Mik789fl]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Since he is the ONLY one to have done it,to this point,he is also the BEST quarterback to have accomplished this feat.

 

[FUBAR]

I'm happy for Eli, he finally does something his brother hasn't.

 

[Avery]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Can't have an Eli thread without one of the Eagle fan/staff members chiming in on Eli being the worst Superbowl QB ever, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. I'm sure thats some fine solace as you sit back counting all the Lombardi trophies sitting in the Eagles trophy case.

 

[Despyzer]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

 

[jurb26]

The Eli haters will come and ruin this thread.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

All I know Eli looked a hell of a lot better on his last drive in the SB than McNabb did. Way to run the 2min drill Donovan.

 

[Moe Green]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

 

[FUBAR]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

The throw to Tyree was perfect, as was the throw to Plax. He isn't a great QB, but that was a great drive.

 

[fsufan]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Can't have an Eli thread without one of the Eagle fan/staff members chiming in on Eli being the worst Superbowl QB ever, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. I'm sure thats some fine solace as you sit back counting all the Lombardi trophies sitting in the Eagles trophy case.

to me the worst(SB play) QB to ever win a SB is Big Ben. He did nothing to help his team win that SB. Eli came thru when it counted.

 

[Chase Stuart]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Can't have an Eli thread without one of the Eagle fan/staff members chiming in on Eli being the worst Superbowl QB ever, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. I'm sure thats some fine solace as you sit back counting all the Lombardi trophies sitting in the Eagles trophy case.

to me the worst(SB play) QB to ever win a SB is Big Ben. He did nothing to help his team win that SB. Eli came thru when it counted.

Yes.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=549

Among SB winners:

Roethlisberger - worst QB play in the SB

Peyton Manning - worst QB play in the playoffs

Eli Manning - worst QB in the regular season

Dilfer - worst QB over the course of his career

 

[Mik789fl]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Can't have an Eli thread without one of the Eagle fan/staff members chiming in on Eli being the worst Superbowl QB ever, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. I'm sure thats some fine solace as you sit back counting all the Lombardi trophies sitting in the Eagles trophy case.

to me the worst(SB play) QB to ever win a SB is Big Ben. He did nothing to help his team win that SB. Eli came thru when it counted.

Yes.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=549

Among SB winners:

Roethlisberger - worst QB play in the SB

Peyton Manning - worst QB play in the playoffs

Eli Manning - worst QB in the regular season

Dilfer - worst QB over the course of his career

...so I guess this gives us the answer to the trivia question.."What do Ben,Peyton,Eli and Trent all have in common?"...They are all SUPER BOWL WINNERS!As John Madden says(frequently).."when you win a Super Bowl it's forever,no one can ever take that away from you,you're a Super Bowl Champion...forever"

 

[Despyzer]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

The throw to Tyree was perfect, as was the throw to Plax. He isn't a great QB, but that was a great drive.

No, the escape trick before the throw was perfect. The throw itself was a duck that any ball-hawking safety would have picked off to end the drive. Eli was lucky that it was only Harrison covering Tyree.

 

[Yenrub]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Is this hate or jealousy?

 

[ceo3west]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Is this hate or jealousy?

Both. And sadly it comes from a staffer.

 

[Raider Nation]

I'm happy for Eli, he finally does something his brother hasn't.

What about drooling uncontrollably? Oh... nevermind.

 

[Phurfur]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Well let's see here, he outperformed Tony Romo, Brett Favre, and Tom Brady within a 1 month period. Can you support your claim or are you just blowing smoke.

 

[Pictus Cat]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Can't have an Eli thread without one of the Eagle fan/staff members chiming in on Eli being the worst Superbowl QB ever, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. I'm sure thats some fine solace as you sit back counting all the Lombardi trophies sitting in the Eagles trophy case.

to me the worst(SB play) QB to ever win a SB is Big Ben. He did nothing to help his team win that SB. Eli came thru when it counted.

Yes.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=549

Among SB winners:

Roethlisberger - worst QB play in the SB

Peyton Manning - worst QB play in the playoffs

Eli Manning - worst QB in the regular season

Dilfer - worst QB over the course of his career

My vote. Only QB to win a SB I said "I can't believe he didn't find a way to lose"

 

[mad sweeney]

The Eli haters will come and ruin this every thread.

 

[Steeler43]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

The throw to Tyree was perfect, as was the throw to Plax. He isn't a great QB, but that was a great drive.

No, the escape trick before the throw was perfect. The throw itself was a duck that any ball-hawking safety would have picked off to end the drive. Eli was lucky that it was only Harrison covering Tyree.

Patriots "fan"?Or maybe Cowboys?

 

[Despyzer]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

The throw to Tyree was perfect, as was the throw to Plax. He isn't a great QB, but that was a great drive.

No, the escape trick before the throw was perfect. The throw itself was a duck that any ball-hawking safety would have picked off to end the drive. Eli was lucky that it was only Harrison covering Tyree.

Patriots "fan"?Or maybe Cowboys?

Neither. Football fan that actually watches the games instead of just listening to the hype.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

The throw to Tyree was perfect, as was the throw to Plax. He isn't a great QB, but that was a great drive.

Wow. I'm not an Eli hater or fan, but come on. That was basically a Hail Mary/duck trying to avoid a sack.

 

[RC94]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Can't have an Eli thread without one of the Eagle fan/staff members chiming in on Eli being the worst Superbowl QB ever, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. I'm sure thats some fine solace as you sit back counting all the Lombardi trophies sitting in the Eagles trophy case.

 

[Mik789fl]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

The throw to Tyree was perfect, as was the throw to Plax. He isn't a great QB, but that was a great drive.

Wow. I'm not an Eli hater or fan, but come on. That was basically a Hail Mary/duck trying to avoid a sack.

.....that was caught(a fantastic catch) by his receiver to gain a first down with time running down and his team needing a touchdown in the Super Bowl.The fact is we will see this play many times and the play and the legend of Eli will only grow with the passing years. I'm going to take it for what it was,the greatest play in Super Bowl history and marvel at it each time I see it. If you don't like Eli or The Giants,turn the channel when it comes on.

 

[Despyzer]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

The throw to Tyree was perfect, as was the throw to Plax. He isn't a great QB, but that was a great drive.

Wow. I'm not an Eli hater or fan, but come on. That was basically a Hail Mary/duck trying to avoid a sack.

.....that was caught(a fantastic catch) by his receiver to gain a first down with time running down and his team needing a touchdown in the Super Bowl.The fact is we will see this play many times and the play and the legend of Eli will only grow with the passing years. I'm going to take it for what it was,the greatest play in Super Bowl history and marvel at it each time I see it. If you don't like Eli or The Giants,turn the channel when it comes on.

It was a fantastic play, and I credit Eli's escapism as part of it. But the fact that you bow to the "legend of Eli" shows that you are not actually taking it for what it is but making Eli's part in it something much bigger than it actually was.

 

[FUBAR]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

The throw to Tyree was perfect, as was the throw to Plax. He isn't a great QB, but that was a great drive.

No, the escape trick before the throw was perfect. The throw itself was a duck that any ball-hawking safety would have picked off to end the drive. Eli was lucky that it was only Harrison covering Tyree.

Fair enough, I meant the entire play. Greatness is half luck, half putting yourself in position to be lucky.

 

[Tom Servo]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Can't have an Eli thread without one of the Eagle fan/staff members chiming in on Eli being the worst Superbowl QB ever, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. I'm sure thats some fine solace as you sit back counting all the Lombardi trophies sitting in the Eagles trophy case.

to me the worst(SB play) QB to ever win a SB is Big Ben. He did nothing to help his team win that SB. Eli came thru when it counted.

Yes.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=549

Among SB winners:

Roethlisberger - worst QB play in the SB

Peyton Manning - worst QB play in the playoffs

Eli Manning - worst QB in the regular season

Dilfer - worst QB over the course of his career

...so I guess this gives us the answer to the trivia question.."What do Ben,Peyton,Eli and Trent all have in common?"...They are all SUPER BOWL WINNERS!As John Madden says(frequently).."when you win a Super Bowl it's forever,no one can ever take that away from you,you're a Super Bowl Champion...forever"

Any one of them have more SB rings than all the haters on the board combined.Apparently, if Eli can't quiet the haters by winning a SB, I guess his career's over...

 

[Despyzer]

Any one of them have more SB rings than all the haters on the board combined.

Is that supposed to be an accomplishment? If this is really the best thing that you can say about Eli, then maybe your reverence of him is misplaced.

 

[Pickle Rody]

I am no Giants fan. I can't really stand them or their coach. I'm no Eli fan either. I just did not think he would amount to much, especially when compared to his older brother, and that comparison is inevitable.

I am also no Patriots fan. I despise them more than the Giants. The only team I despise more is the Cowboys.

All that being said, I watched the entire SB and found myself rooting and cheering (very loudly) for Eli and the Giants to pull off those last drive heroics.

Yes, McNabb dropped a duece when attempting the same thing a few years ago, so seeing Eli and the Giants accomplish what my team could not, sort of gives the whole episode a bad flavor in my mouth.

Regardless, congrats to Eli for accomplishing something that no single other modern day, championship winning QB has done. He got the job done when it counted the most and when his team needed it more than anything else. He deserves every bit of praise he gets for that drive. As do all the other Giants who contributed to upsetting the Patriots.

 

[Yenrub]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Is this hate or jealousy?

Both. And sadly it comes from a staffer.

You are probably rightIf Sesame Street did the song below about the NFC east which team would be the answer?One of these things is not like the others,One of these things just doesn't belong,Can you tell which thing is not like the othersBy the time I finish my song?

 

[Mik789fl]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

The throw to Tyree was perfect, as was the throw to Plax. He isn't a great QB, but that was a great drive.

Wow. I'm not an Eli hater or fan, but come on. That was basically a Hail Mary/duck trying to avoid a sack.

.....that was caught(a fantastic catch) by his receiver to gain a first down with time running down and his team needing a touchdown in the Super Bowl.The fact is we will see this play many times and the play and the legend of Eli will only grow with the passing years. I'm going to take it for what it was,the greatest play in Super Bowl history and marvel at it each time I see it. If you don't like Eli or The Giants,turn the channel when it comes on.

It was a fantastic play, and I credit Eli's escapism as part of it. But the fact that you bow to the "legend of Eli" shows that you are not actually taking it for what it is but making Eli's part in it something much bigger than it actually was.

Eli's part in it was pretty big. My point is as time passes "The Play" will grow in stature,as have others before it. The Immaculate Reception,The Catch,The Drive just to name a few. When "great" plays of the past are remembered history usually gives credit for a "great" pass,or a "great" reception,or a "great" run,or a "great" tackle. This play was "great" on BOTH ends,the escape,the throw,the catch. It will become "legend" my friend. "Legends" are not created when they occur,a person or event becomes "legend" over time,this play,which Eli was a part of,will become "legend". In our little football world anyway.

 

[mdog1967]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

The throw to Tyree was perfect, as was the throw to Plax. He isn't a great QB, but that was a great drive.

No, the escape trick before the throw was perfect. The throw itself was a duck that any ball-hawking safety would have picked off to end the drive. Eli was lucky that it was only Harrison covering Tyree.

Fair enough, I meant the entire play. Greatness is half luck, half putting yourself in position to be lucky.

 

[Fiddles]

count the rings haters

 

[Phurfur]

and most of the haters will say that Tony Romo is a better NFL QB than Eli. (and I am not talking about being a FF QB)

 

[SSOG]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Can't have an Eli thread without one of the Eagle fan/staff members chiming in on Eli being the worst Superbowl QB ever, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. I'm sure thats some fine solace as you sit back counting all the Lombardi trophies sitting in the Eagles trophy case.

I'm a Broncos fan. Eli Manning is one of the worst superbowl winning QBs ever. He had a great 5-game stretch to end the season, but he had a BRUTAL 5-game stretch right before that, which is the problem- he's the most inconsistent hot-and-cold QB this side of Rex Grossman. He got hot at the right time, so good on him, and I doubt the Giants fans will enjoy their SB any less as a result (nor should they- championships are championships and should be cherished). Regardless, one good stretch does not a good QB make.

and most of the haters will say that Tony Romo is a better NFL QB than Eli. (and I am not talking about being a FF QB)

I suspect most non-Giants fans would say the exact same thing, haters or otherwise.

 

[Klimtology]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IyuMmFs6tU&fmt=18

 

[Koya]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Kinda hard to accept that considering Eli's level of play during, and what that play meant to his football team for the entire postseason.If it were just this one game, fine - but it was four in a row. Not sure how people are so willing to dismiss that run and Eli's level of play during that run. The guy was the playoff MVP for one of the great all time Super Bowl runs.

 

[Koya]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Can't have an Eli thread without one of the Eagle fan/staff members chiming in on Eli being the worst Superbowl QB ever, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. I'm sure thats some fine solace as you sit back counting all the Lombardi trophies sitting in the Eagles trophy case.

to me the worst(SB play) QB to ever win a SB is Big Ben. He did nothing to help his team win that SB. Eli came thru when it counted.

Yes.http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=549

Among SB winners:

Roethlisberger - worst QB play in the SB

Peyton Manning - worst QB play in the playoffs

Eli Manning - worst QB in the regular season

Dilfer - worst QB over the course of his career

Id say thats a fair depiction. Regular season and the playoffs were beyond night and day for Eli. Even those of us who had believed in him had to have been wavering mid-late that season. But wow, he had a great run when it counted. They guy isnt the most gifted QB ever, but he has a knack for winning and getting it done late in games.

 

[SSOG]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Kinda hard to accept that considering Eli's level of play during, and what that play meant to his football team for the entire postseason.If it were just this one game, fine - but it was four in a row. Not sure how people are so willing to dismiss that run and Eli's level of play during that run. The guy was the playoff MVP for one of the great all time Super Bowl runs.

If I based my judgement of QBs off of 4-game stretches, then Rex Grossman would be an all-pro after his torrid start to 2006.Eli's hot streak came at exactly the right time for the Giants organization and their fans, but that doesn't change the fact that it was nothing more than that- a hot streak. Just like Reggie Bush running well in the last four games of 2006 wasn't this miraculous sign that he'd figured out the NFL game. As Drinen is so fond of saying... splits happen.

 

[Jason Wood]

and most of the haters will say that Tony Romo is a better NFL QB than Eli. (and I am not talking about being a FF QB)

You're going to argue he's not?And before people label me an "Eli Hater" on this one, let's keep in mind I hate the Cowboys as much, if not more.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

I am no Elisha Manning fan, not after his draft-day tantrum/power-play. But...got to give credit where it's due...he beat what would have been considered the best NFL team of all-time in the Super Bowl. As they always say this is a bottom line business and Eli won when it counted. Nobody remembers that Joe Namath didn't throw a single TD pass in Super Bowl III or that McNabb threw for 357 yards and 3 TD in SB XXXIX.

 

[Jason Wood]

I am no Elisha Manning fan, not after his draft-day tantrum/power-play. But...got to give credit where it's due...he beat what would have been considered the best NFL team of all-time in the Super Bowl. As they always say this is a bottom line business and Eli won when it counted. Nobody remembers that Joe Namath didn't throw a single TD pass in Super Bowl III or that McNabb threw for 357 yards and 3 TD in SB XXXIX.

I couldn't agree more with this...while my initial response was intentionally snippy (yes I'm bitter and jealous) it doesn't obviate the fact that Manning needs to dramatically improve his play going forward for last year's playoff run to not rank up there as the stuff of legend and be viewed as one of the most improbable playoff runs, ever.Those who really pay attention to what I say (beneath the veil of Giants hatred) know that I've always given Eli his props for being a tough kid who seems to handle the NY media attention well and wins games. It's that age old question of whether you would rather your NFL team win 10+ games a year but never win the bowl or take one ring and five straight losing seasons. Most (myself included) that are desperate for one SB victory would take the latter over the former any day (grass is always greener). With Manning, the same holds true. I would rather have his decidedly mediocre career up to this point in combination with his dream SB playoff run than I would a QB who flirts with Pro Bowl status each and every year, but comes up short in the biggest games of his life. It's all about the ring.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

The throw to Tyree was perfect, as was the throw to Plax. He isn't a great QB, but that was a great drive.

Wow. I'm not an Eli hater or fan, but come on. That was basically a Hail Mary/duck trying to avoid a sack.

.....that was caught(a fantastic catch) by his receiver to gain a first down with time running down and his team needing a touchdown in the Super Bowl.The fact is we will see this play many times and the play and the legend of Eli will only grow with the passing years. I'm going to take it for what it was,the greatest play in Super Bowl history and marvel at it each time I see it. If you don't like Eli or The Giants,turn the channel when it comes on.

Why does a person living in reality have to be a hater? He avoided a sack and threw a duck as far as he could. Tyree came down with the jump ball. I was rooting for the Giants (like everyone outside of New England) but my television doesn't have a rose-colored filter. I actually see the plays for what they were. He demolished Tampa, played well against the Cowboys and got past Green Bay. Nobody is taking anything away from them.But really, that wasn't a "perfect" pass. It was a jump ball. It's okay to admit that. Eli still gets the credit, and nobody will take away the Lombardi trophy if you accept it. I won't tell.

 

[Despyzer]

But...got to give credit where it's due...he happened to be the QB of a team that beat what would have been considered the best NFL team of all-time in the Super Bowl.

Fixed

 

[Avery]

It seems hard to believe that we are really going to credit Eli for this. Except for getting bailed out on a mediocre throw by Tyree, that was not a very impressive series. The guy should have been picked off at least twice during that drive. None of his throws looked very commanding or displayed much accuracy.

The throw to Tyree was perfect, as was the throw to Plax. He isn't a great QB, but that was a great drive.

Wow. I'm not an Eli hater or fan, but come on. That was basically a Hail Mary/duck trying to avoid a sack.

.....that was caught(a fantastic catch) by his receiver to gain a first down with time running down and his team needing a touchdown in the Super Bowl.The fact is we will see this play many times and the play and the legend of Eli will only grow with the passing years. I'm going to take it for what it was,the greatest play in Super Bowl history and marvel at it each time I see it. If you don't like Eli or The Giants,turn the channel when it comes on.

Why does a person living in reality have to be a hater? He avoided a sack and threw a duck as far as he could. Tyree came down with the jump ball. I was rooting for the Giants (like everyone outside of New England) but my television doesn't have a rose-colored filter. I actually see the plays for what they were. He demolished Tampa, played well against the Cowboys and got past Green Bay. Nobody is taking anything away from them.But really, that wasn't a "perfect" pass. It was a jump ball. It's okay to admit that. Eli still gets the credit, and nobody will take away the Lombardi trophy if you accept it. I won't tell.

Come on. The Giants went on an unprecedented winning streak on the road in the playoffs and you're boiling down that run that Eli was a large part of to one play?Whether you view that simply as a "hot streak" or as the growth of a young QB (and we will get that answer in the games as seasons to come) Manning did a Hell of a lot more in the playoffs and in the Superbowl than "avoided a sack and threw a duck as far as he could".

Edit to add: IMO, "hot streak" vs. growth is what this argument is really about. I'm discounting those that say he was simply the "Trent Dilfer" of last year because that is simply and bizarrely ignoring that Eli, hot streak or not, was clearly a large part of the playoff run. We do not know yet whether this is a "hot streak", where Eli's performance will slide back to his previous norm, or the growth of a young QB showing that he is improving in the hardest position to learn in the NFL. At this point this is a "time will tell" argument for at the last snap of NFL football played to this point, he was still rolling hot.

 

[Despyzer]

The Giants went on an unprecedented winning streak on the road in the playoffs

If by "unprecedented" you mean not since the year before last, then you are correct.

 

[Manster]

and most of the haters will say that Tony Romo is a better NFL QB than Eli. (and I am not talking about being a FF QB)

"haters" is relative. i would consider you a Romo hater. the thread is not even about Romo, and yet you cant help yourself. you gotta take a jab. there's a reason we're having this discussion. Eli's team got hot at the right time. Eli has NOT been a very stellar QB to this point in his career. to his credit, he is tough, and he doesnt quit. i applaud the g-men for coming in as wildcard, running the NFC table, and defeating the unstoppable pats.that said, i dont think Eli will ever sniff the SB again. and i believe Tony Romo will be considered a better NFL QB than Eli Manning when its all said and done. i may be wrong, who knows, but the cool thing is we get to see it play out. bring on the '08 season!

 

[Phurfur]

He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Can't have an Eli thread without one of the Eagle fan/staff members chiming in on Eli being the worst Superbowl QB ever, even in the face of evidence to the contrary. I'm sure thats some fine solace as you sit back counting all the Lombardi trophies sitting in the Eagles trophy case.

I'm a Broncos fan. Eli Manning is one of the worst superbowl winning QBs ever. He had a great 5-game stretch to end the season, but he had a BRUTAL 5-game stretch right before that, which is the problem- he's the most inconsistent hot-and-cold QB this side of Rex Grossman. He got hot at the right time, so good on him, and I doubt the Giants fans will enjoy their SB any less as a result (nor should they- championships are championships and should be cherished). Regardless, one good stretch does not a good QB make.

and most of the haters will say that Tony Romo is a better NFL QB than Eli. (and I am not talking about being a FF QB)

I suspect most non-Giants fans would say the exact same thing, haters or otherwise.

and most of the haters will say that Tony Romo is a better NFL QB than Eli. (and I am not talking about being a FF QB)

You're going to argue he's not?And before people label me an "Eli Hater" on this one, let's keep in mind I hate the Cowboys as much, if not more.

Of course he isn't.

and most of the haters will say that Tony Romo is a better NFL QB than Eli. (and I am not talking about being a FF QB)

"haters" is relative. i would consider you a Romo hater. the thread is not even about Romo, and yet you cant help yourself. you gotta take a jab. there's a reason we're having this discussion. Eli's team got hot at the right time. Eli has NOT been a very stellar QB to this point in his career. to his credit, he is tough, and he doesnt quit. i applaud the g-men for coming in as wildcard, running the NFC table, and defeating the unstoppable pats.

that said, i dont think Eli will ever sniff the SB again. and i believe Tony Romo will be considered a better NFL QB than Eli Manning when its all said and done. i may be wrong, who knows, but the cool thing is we get to see it play out. bring on the '08 season!

I knew I could find you people out there. I don't hate Romo at all; I used him as a reference because the majority of the people on These boards just repeat what the media tells them. There isn't allot of independent thinking going on here. The media loves Dallas and magically they get 13 players voted to the pro bowl. We all should know that Dallas did not have 13 of the top 22 players in the NFC last year. Anyone who argues that Eli hit a "hot streak" and will never do it again is not being objective. That was my point in bringing Romo into the thread. My god, Eli outplayed Romo, Favre, and Brady all within a month. Anyone who says Romo is better than Eli right now is just off base.

 

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He's certainly going to go down as the worst QB to accomplish the feat, that's for sure.

Since he is the ONLY one to have done it,to this point,he is also the BEST quarterback to have accomplished this feat.

Depending on how you define "needing a touchdown", he's not. Defining the need for atouchdown as needing more than a FG to win - since going to OT doesn't guarantee anything - nets you Joe Montana & Bart Starr. Eli's #3 on that list.