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Equifax hack exposes personal info of 143 million people (1 Viewer)

To unfreeze your account, you just have to contact them by phone or online with the PIN number you get when you freeze it. You can either unfreeze it for a specified time, or for a specific company making the inquiry.

It's a PITA to freeze them right now though. I did get my Equifax one frozen online, but the online systems for both Experian and TransUnion seem overwhelmed right now and I'm having to print stuff out and mail it in to get those frozen. Completely ridiculous.
This is exactly the kind of nonsense I was expecting. Ridiculous.

Related question(if you know the answer): Is it an additional charge each time you need to unfreeze/refreeze?  Cuz that smacks of utter bull#### if so.  Like the bureaus got together and said "So, how can we artificially generate a new revenue stream for the next 5 years?"

 
Clark has an article about this hack and basically says freeze your credit and sign up for free monitoring like creditkarma

http://clark.com/personal-finance-credit/equifax-breach-how-to-protect-yourself-from-whats-coming-next/

For some reason, in my state, the fee is $10 each.  Me, my wife and 2 teenagers...$120 to protect us from something that is not at all our fault and totally out of our control.  Ridiculous.
Totally.  Of course, something as important and sensitive as credit regulation should be run by the government rather than a for-profit agency, or at the very very least regulated as closely as humanly imaginable, but we can't have any of THAT, of course.  

 
This is exactly the kind of nonsense I was expecting. Ridiculous.

Related question(if you know the answer): Is it an additional charge each time you need to unfreeze/refreeze?  Cuz that smacks of utter bull#### if so.  Like the bureaus got together and said "So, how can we artificially generate a new revenue stream for the next 5 years?"
Yes, with the cost varying by state.  

Your take was pretty much mine the first I heard of this.  I called it a false flag operation, and was only half joking.

 
Your take was pretty much mine the first I heard of this.  I called it a false flag operation, and was only half joking.
I kind of hate that it's the first thing I thought of, buuuut.....like you said, "for-profit entities gonna for-profit."  I'm quite certain they would happily throw out a couple hundred million people's personal info if they thought it'd improve their bottom line for the next 5-10 years.  The peon consumers are just grist for the mill.

I'll put my tinfoil hat back on and have another drink now.

 
Just put my freezes on. I did not get charged by Equifax. Unless they bill you via the mail, it seems they were wise enough to waive the fees. You know, being that they are the ones that ####ed everyone over.

 
Otis said:
So is everyone freezing their credit?  

How much of a PIA is it to unfreeze?  I may need to have my credit checked for a credit line end of year. Will that be a hassle?

also I assume this freeze won't impact your credit score?
 i had my stuff frozen a while ago....bought a new car in Feb.  i literally went to the experian website at the dealership, logged in and requested a 1 week lift.  it was instant.  you need to keep those login and passwords handy.  i am fairly organized with that since it is important.

 
 i had my stuff frozen a while ago....bought a new car in Feb.  i literally went to the experian website at the dealership, logged in and requested a 1 week lift.  it was instant.  you need to keep those login and passwords handy.  i am fairly organized with that since it is important.
TU was the only one that had me create an account. Experian and Equifax did not.

 
I am supposedly compromised--my wife isn't.  When I got to the box where it talked about the free credit monitoring, I check on FAQ box to read the small print everyone is talking about, and when I got to the bottom to go back, it said "Thanks for enrolling in the credit monitoring Your protection starts Monday." Just  :wall:  

Now I wasn't interested in being part of a class action or anything (because this one will be so huge  you will be lucky to get one dollar), but I didn't want the service and it signed me up just because I had the nerve to want more info.

 
TU was the only one that had me create an account. Experian and Equifax did not.
not required, but you gotta have that PIN........Experian mailed me like a 9 digit random PIN.  not sure what my Equifax one is, but I know that report is locked down.  I created one with TU.  Innovis mails.

 
I am supposedly compromised--my wife isn't.  When I got to the box where it talked about the free credit monitoring, I check on FAQ box to read the small print everyone is talking about, and when I got to the bottom to go back, it said "Thanks for enrolling in the credit monitoring Your protection starts Monday." Just  :wall:  

Now I wasn't interested in being part of a class action or anything (because this one will be so huge  you will be lucky to get one dollar), but I didn't want the service and it signed me up just because I had the nerve to want more info.
There was an article out today stating that you aren't waiving anything when you sign up. If there is a class action suit, signing up did nothing to prevent you from participating. It is left over small print.

 
The Equifax site geeked out when I set up the freeze, so I didn't get the damn pin. Now I have to work with them to get a pin or unfreeze. Bastards.

 
I'm not sure how the TrustedID really helps you anymore than any other credit reporting service. If you want to be safe, wouldn't the best option be just to freeze your accounts? 

 
 i had my stuff frozen a while ago....bought a new car in Feb.  i literally went to the experian website at the dealership, logged in and requested a 1 week lift.  it was instant.  you need to keep those login and passwords handy.  i am fairly organized with that since it is important.
Froze all 4 of mine today.  Did the TU 'Lock' functionality that I can control online instead of a freeze.  Instantly got PIN numbers for Experian and Equifax.  Innovis mailing one. 

 
What if the hacker freezes your accounts and gets the PIN?  :unsure:

If Freeze/PIN is the most secure, why isn't that the default security for everyone?

 
TransUnion took my money to freeze the account and then the site failed and didn't actually freeze it. I have to call them on the way home.

 
What if the hacker freezes your accounts and gets the PIN?  :unsure:

If Freeze/PIN is the most secure, why isn't that the default security for everyone?
Because these guys don't make any money from it. The cost is free or very cheap and regulated by the state. They all try to push you into a more traditional credit monitoring system with a monthly charge

 
TransUnion took my money to freeze the account and then the site failed and didn't actually freeze it. I have to call them on the way home.
How do you know its actually frozen?   Seems like the same jabronis that couldn't keep our data secure are now responsible for keeping our data inaccessible.  On top of that, it all depends on a pin # that they're also responsible for trying to keep secure.  Sure, here's my money.   

 
What if the hacker freezes your accounts and gets the PIN?  :unsure:

If Freeze/PIN is the most secure, why isn't that the default security for everyone?
Companies pay them to run soft credit requests on you all the time so that they can send you pre-approved offers. If it's frozen, they can't see your credit and those companies don't make money off of you.

 
Companies pay them to run soft credit requests on you all the time so that they can send you pre-approved offers. If it's frozen, they can't see your credit and those companies don't make money off of you.
Freezes don't stop that. (Although you can separately opt out.)

Does a credit freeze stop prescreened credit offers?

No. If you want to stop getting prescreened offers of credit, call 888-5OPTOUT (888-567-8688) or go online. The phone number and website are operated by the nationwide credit reporting companies. You can opt out for five years or permanently. However, some companies send offers that are not based on prescreening, and your federal opt-out right will not stop those kinds of solicitations.

As you consider opting out, you should know that prescreened offers can provide many benefits, especially if you are in the market for a credit card or insurance. Prescreened offers can help you learn about what's available, compare costs, and find the best product for your needs. Because you are pre-selected to receive the offer, you can be turned down only under limited circumstances. The terms of prescreened offers also may be more favorable than those that are available to the general public. In fact, some credit card or insurance products may be available only through prescreened offers.
https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0497-credit-freeze-faqs

 
Froze all 4 of mine today.  Did the TU 'Lock' functionality that I can control online instead of a freeze.  Instantly got PIN numbers for Experian and Equifax.  Innovis mailing one. 
so there's 4 places to freeze it at? i thought it was only 3 credit bureaus... what's the 4th one?

 
Freezes don't stop that. (Although you can separately opt out.)

https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0497-credit-freeze-faqs
They gave a partial answer. It will stop prescreened offers based on your bureau info unless you already have a relationship with that company. Once you have a relationship, they have access to your info. It won't stop unsolicited offers. But if you have no relationship with, say, Wells Fargo, they cannot prescreen you using credit bureau info if you have a freeze.

 
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Is this simply a credit freeze that I can control? What's the catch?

 
I get that. But why pay $10 with TU, when I can get free protection that I can control. There's gotta be a catch.
It says it locks your credit report. That terminology makes me leery. It doesn't say it is a credit freeze. As credit freeze is pretty standard terminology across all bureaus, they probably chose those words carefully.

 
They gave a partial answer. It will stop prescreened offers based on your bureau info unless you already have a relationship with that company. Once you have a relationship, they have access to your info. It won't stop unsolicited offers. But if you have no relationship with, say, Wells Fargo, they cannot prescreen you using credit bureau info if you have a freeze.
Are you sure?  I haven't experienced this personally so perhaps I'm wrong but I'm seeing it verified from multiple sources:

http://www.equifax.com/credit/fraud-alerts/&

https://www.creditkarma.com/article/what-is-a-security-freeze

 
May I ask why? 
They are so much smaller and a lot of creditors don't even report data to them.  I'd be surprised if there is any creditor granting credit relying only at an Innovis report.  I guess I'm kind of just making fun of them, though.  I shouldn't discourage anyone from freezing with them too if they want to be extra careful.   

 
They are so much smaller and a lot of creditors don't even report data to them.  I'd be surprised if there is any creditor granting credit relying only at an Innovis report.  I guess I'm kind of just making fun of them, though.  I shouldn't discourage anyone from freezing with them too if they want to be extra careful.   
Ah gotcha. Wouldn't that be an ideal place for someone to take a false line of credit out in your name?

 
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Well, Equifax let me lock but TransUnion fails and Experian wants me to mail something in?
I did all four online in under 20 minutes for me and the wife.

Edit: Did you perhaps blow the questions they ask you to verify it is you?

 
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Holy crap lifelock wants 30/month?  They serious?

As I say that russians somehow logged into my steam account.  Of course the password I had there was ancient and an actual english word.

 
pfft, everyone already has my info after the OPM hack, and the free monitoring service we get for life, is worth every penny.  It's only a matter of time until I'm homeless. 

 
Apparently there are a lot of people locking their reports. All three companies said they were experiencing technical issues and to try again later. Funny, if I was subscribing to a paid service, I bet these ####s would be able to process my request. 

 

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