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Eric Decker Kool-Aid? (1 Viewer)
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bigdaddydave
Footballguy
agreed. I've watched him two games now and watch his on field presence with the team.You can tell he's confident and the team likes him, especially orton!
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
i was going to post something similar if it wasn't here already...
i know waldman was very high on him...
just a question of opportunity... if he keeps playing like this, he seems destined to increasingly force his way onto the field...
the second TD against CIN did look like a poor job of tackling in the secondary, but he did make a good play on the ball and had the presence to extend the play into a TD... and he had two other TDs in first two weeks (kickoff return week one)...
lot to like about him... best attribute might be his hands, which are silky smooth with vise-like strength (might be among best in the league), natural pass catcher, he has overall outstanding ball skills capable of making spectacular and acrobatic catches (field awareness, body control, positioning, timing, high point ability, toughness and competitiveness)... and he is flashing sneaky speed, deceptive explosiveness and dangerous RAC skills that i have to admit i didn't know he had in him, based on some of the collegiate highights i saw... not ponderous or lumbering, has some quick twitch and can get downfield...
agree you can see him quickly earning the trust of orton, and it isn't like the broncos are overflowing with playmaking talent on the offensive side of the ball, so there may not be much standing in the way of him asserting himself to a greater degree sooner than later...
big upside... imo, he is a legit talent and has the goods to be a future top 20-30 WR, with upside...
i know waldman was very high on him...
just a question of opportunity... if he keeps playing like this, he seems destined to increasingly force his way onto the field...
the second TD against CIN did look like a poor job of tackling in the secondary, but he did make a good play on the ball and had the presence to extend the play into a TD... and he had two other TDs in first two weeks (kickoff return week one)...
lot to like about him... best attribute might be his hands, which are silky smooth with vise-like strength (might be among best in the league), natural pass catcher, he has overall outstanding ball skills capable of making spectacular and acrobatic catches (field awareness, body control, positioning, timing, high point ability, toughness and competitiveness)... and he is flashing sneaky speed, deceptive explosiveness and dangerous RAC skills that i have to admit i didn't know he had in him, based on some of the collegiate highights i saw... not ponderous or lumbering, has some quick twitch and can get downfield...
agree you can see him quickly earning the trust of orton, and it isn't like the broncos are overflowing with playmaking talent on the offensive side of the ball, so there may not be much standing in the way of him asserting himself to a greater degree sooner than later...
big upside... imo, he is a legit talent and has the goods to be a future top 20-30 WR, with upside...
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The former Golden Gopher, who worked out with Larry Fitzgerald(notes) and Orton during the lockout, isn't your run-of-the-mill one-week wonder. He's an intelligent, versatile receiver with tacky hands, above average athleticism, plus size and deceptive speed. Orton absolutely love him. From the Denver Post:"He's ideal as a slot receiver," Orton said. "He can play outside too, but as a slot receiver he can really be an impact receiver with his combination of quickness, his size, and his brain."
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
Sipping the kool-aid. Could be had for free off waivers on Saturday night. Blew up on my bench.
In one league, someone beat me to him early that afternoon. If you had your ear to ground, you saw this coming before Sunday's game.I think Decker is going to be a weekly starter from here on in, (on my team anyway). I was previously relying on either of the Bears WR's Johnny Knox or Roy Williams
as my WR3. Now I have both Decker and D. Moore as my WR3 and WR4.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Somewhat depends on type of league although full disclosure I have him rostered in several types
But for this year if you are looking to add him, remember that like Scott Chandler in Week 1, Decker probably just had his best week of the year in Week 2 - you can't recoup those stats.
For keeper and bestball leagues I would definitely make a spot for him
In normal size (10-14 team) redraft leagues it will depend on who you have to bench to play him....if you have the spot to roster him and play him if Lloyd is out next week or if Lloyd back, wait and see how many targets he is getting with both on the field at the same time then I would add him.
But for this year if you are looking to add him, remember that like Scott Chandler in Week 1, Decker probably just had his best week of the year in Week 2 - you can't recoup those stats.
For keeper and bestball leagues I would definitely make a spot for him
In normal size (10-14 team) redraft leagues it will depend on who you have to bench to play him....if you have the spot to roster him and play him if Lloyd is out next week or if Lloyd back, wait and see how many targets he is getting with both on the field at the same time then I would add him.
Drink up
Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post believes Eddie Royal's Week 2 groin injury could be "serious."
We've seen Jones write this both in her blog and on Twitter. An extended absence could push Eric Decker into the lineup for good opposite Brandon Lloyd. Demaryius Thomas (hand, Achilles') isn't close to returning, and Tim Tebow isn't a long-term option at slot receiver. Look for the Broncos to sign a wideout this week. They opened the year with only four healthy receivers.
Sep. 19 - 1:38 p.m. ET
Source: Denver Post
Lindsay Jones of the Denver Post believes Eddie Royal's Week 2 groin injury could be "serious."
We've seen Jones write this both in her blog and on Twitter. An extended absence could push Eric Decker into the lineup for good opposite Brandon Lloyd. Demaryius Thomas (hand, Achilles') isn't close to returning, and Tim Tebow isn't a long-term option at slot receiver. Look for the Broncos to sign a wideout this week. They opened the year with only four healthy receivers.
Sep. 19 - 1:38 p.m. ET
Source: Denver Post
Crazy Tony
Footballguy
Been trying to mixup Decker Kool-Aid for 15 months since I read this on FBGs.com http://footballguys.com/10haseley_cracks.php
You watch him after the KR for TD Week1. He's excited but not surprised to be there. He's not milking it...because he expects to be in the end-zone a lot. Seems like the kind of guy that takes his hard-hat and lunch pail to work with him puts in a double shift. Gotta love that.
I think his targets are increased with Lloyd out. But I think he'll make a case to stay on the field with his play making ability and production.
I haven't paid attention to Royal so much but I don't see him as that guy. I could be wrong.
Last year Decker was primarily special teams and only towards the end of the season. 8 targets 6 rec 106yds 1 TD 556 ret yds 0 tds. in 2010.
I like calling him Colonel Decker... the Govt. guy assigned the task of bringing the A-Team (crack commando unit convicted of a military crime they didn't commit in 1972 who promptly escaped to the Los Angeles underground who are available for hire if...you have a problem, no one else can help...and if you can find the)....to justice for escaping from military stockade.
You watch him after the KR for TD Week1. He's excited but not surprised to be there. He's not milking it...because he expects to be in the end-zone a lot. Seems like the kind of guy that takes his hard-hat and lunch pail to work with him puts in a double shift. Gotta love that.
I think his targets are increased with Lloyd out. But I think he'll make a case to stay on the field with his play making ability and production.
I haven't paid attention to Royal so much but I don't see him as that guy. I could be wrong.
Last year Decker was primarily special teams and only towards the end of the season. 8 targets 6 rec 106yds 1 TD 556 ret yds 0 tds. in 2010.
I like calling him Colonel Decker... the Govt. guy assigned the task of bringing the A-Team (crack commando unit convicted of a military crime they didn't commit in 1972 who promptly escaped to the Los Angeles underground who are available for hire if...you have a problem, no one else can help...and if you can find the)....to justice for escaping from military stockade.
Crazy Tony
Footballguy
packersfan
Footballguy
Lloyd was out, Royal got hurt, and Tim Tebow was the 4th WR on Sunday. Also, Julius Thomas (TE) tweaked an ankle in the 1st quarter. Decker had a perfect storm on Sunday. Of course, I think it might continue...
What's the prognosis on Lloyd? He's the only worry I'd have here. Other than the remote possibility of Demaryius Thomas making some noise down the line. Thomas broke a finger while rehabbing his achilles. I would think he'd stay out of the picture until at best the second half of the season, but why didn't they PUP him? He may never be the same player they drafted in the 1st round last year, as achilles injuries can be brutal to a player's effectiveness, if not career ending. How's his rehab going, seems way ahead of schedule?
What's the prognosis on Lloyd? He's the only worry I'd have here. Other than the remote possibility of Demaryius Thomas making some noise down the line. Thomas broke a finger while rehabbing his achilles. I would think he'd stay out of the picture until at best the second half of the season, but why didn't they PUP him? He may never be the same player they drafted in the 1st round last year, as achilles injuries can be brutal to a player's effectiveness, if not career ending. How's his rehab going, seems way ahead of schedule?
Warrior
Footballguy
Lol...since we're just throwing out random descriptions that mean nothing, he also has gazelle-like toes and owl-like eyes.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
i think of soft and strong hands as distinct and separate traits... ie - you can have good but not necessarily strong hands, and vice verce... he has both.LOL at dismissing a post based on a few adjectives...'Warrior said:
maybe something more basic would be more descriptive...
decker run good...
Eric Decker - WR - Broncos
Eric Decker will start for the Broncos in Sunday's game against the Titans.
Decker is an excellent bet to "Pipp" Eddie Royal, who is out at least two weeks with a groin strain. Decker is more physical, has better ball skills and can do more after the catch. Kyle Orton showed tremendous trust in the second-year wideout last week, tossing up a couple jump balls his way and targeting him nine times. Decker is well worth a waiver add as the Broncos' likely starting receiver opposite Brandon Lloyd for the rest of the season.
Sep. 20 - 9:01 a.m. ET
Other relevant news
The Denver Post suggests that Eddie Royal (groin) will be held out through the Broncos' Week 6 bye.
If Royal isn't ready at the front end of his 2-4 week timetable, it would make sense to let him rest through the bye. That would put his return date at October 23 and cost him three games. Regardless, Royal's starting job will likely be confiscated by Eric Decker no matter when he returns. Royal belongs on waivers in fantasy.
Sep. 20 - 8:46 a.m. ET
Source: Denver Post
Eric Decker will start for the Broncos in Sunday's game against the Titans.
Decker is an excellent bet to "Pipp" Eddie Royal, who is out at least two weeks with a groin strain. Decker is more physical, has better ball skills and can do more after the catch. Kyle Orton showed tremendous trust in the second-year wideout last week, tossing up a couple jump balls his way and targeting him nine times. Decker is well worth a waiver add as the Broncos' likely starting receiver opposite Brandon Lloyd for the rest of the season.
Sep. 20 - 9:01 a.m. ET
Other relevant news
The Denver Post suggests that Eddie Royal (groin) will be held out through the Broncos' Week 6 bye.
If Royal isn't ready at the front end of his 2-4 week timetable, it would make sense to let him rest through the bye. That would put his return date at October 23 and cost him three games. Regardless, Royal's starting job will likely be confiscated by Eric Decker no matter when he returns. Royal belongs on waivers in fantasy.
Sep. 20 - 8:46 a.m. ET
Source: Denver Post
Jayrod
Footballguy
On my team, he is already my WR3 with Royal out.
He and Lloyd are not the same type of receiver. As such, they would not compete for balls.Most likely they would line them up on opposite sides of the field with decker in the slot and Lloyd lined up wide. If anything, Deckers emergence would make Lloyd more dangerous and Lloyds return would keep opposing teams best cover guy off of Decker.This is a nice development for this offense.'zamboni said:
The Doctor
Footballguy
how much upside does he have with lloyd in there?
im trying to debate on who to use as my first priority pick this week. between him and D Nelson
im trying to debate on who to use as my first priority pick this week. between him and D Nelson
zamboni
Footballguy
Agreed. My point though is that Fox's philosophy is not to have his QB chuck the ball 40+ times, but rather grind it out with the running game. Fewer passes = fewer receiving stats to go around.Of course, situational factors like a sub-standard running game and playing from behind could result in more passing, but one would think that Fox doesn't want Orton to sling it all over the place like he did last year.
Mr. Chumley
Footballguy
I've got a big pitcher of Decker cool aid all mixed up. Just not sure If I want to drink it. I'm afraid it may be the kind that taste good at first but leaves a bad after taste. Or in ff terms. I'm not sure I want to waste my waiver priority on him. I'm scared that once Loyd returns his opportunities will be cut and I'm stuck at # 10 on the wiver priority.
Khy
Footballguy
Definitely drinking the koolaid here. I was drinking it prior to this week... ended up losing my game cause I forgot to sub in Decker when I found out that Lloyd was out. Still though, two solid weeks from this guy, Royal is looking to be out awhile. Lloyd will get a lot of attention leaving Decker to run free for some huge plays. Even when Royal comes back I think Decker has some solid production coming his way.
Big Blue Wrecking Crew
downsized
Another angle to debate is the Tebow factor. If/when Tebow takes the reins (sooner than later if Denver keeps losing), what does that do to Decker's potential productivity? I know it's possible Quinn could get a shot first, so can throw that in the mix as well.
Jayrod
Footballguy
This is a tough call, IMO. Both have a quality WR1 on their team and a decent, but unspectacular QB. I'd give Nelson the advantage for overall team offensive success, but I'd give Decker the advantage in opportunity with all of the injuries around him.
