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Eric Decker. (1 Viewer)

moleculo

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Decker @ Fitzgeralds camp

Many Bronco blogs/forums are giddy about what Decker can do. People expect him to be the second coming of Eddie McCaffrey....

From NFL.com:

Overview:

Decker is a big receiver with small receiver skills. He is quicker than he is fast and while he has enough speed he is not the type that will take many all the way to the house at the next level. He runs crisp routes and will show a good short burst to separate from defenders but will struggle to maintain that separation. He is a natural receiver that has soft, sure hands and a wide receiving radius that allows him to extend to catch slightly off target throws. He missed the final four games of the regular season due to a foot injury but returned in time to play in the bowl game against Iowa State.

Strengths:

Decker possesses great size. Was extremely productive in college. Exhibits good quickness & agility which he uses to overcome lack of elite burst. Gets off the ball quickly and is a savvy route runner. Has excellent natural receiving skills. Goes and gets the football, displays great body control in the air and around the sidelines, and isn't afraid to go over the middle.

Weaknesses:

Lacks elite top end speed which could severely limit his big-play potential at the next level. Lacks a second gear to pull away from defenders after the catch or in and out of his breaks against a corner capable of mirroring him.

Regarding the Denver passing game: I think that McD drafted Demaryius Thomas to be the deep threat - the Randy Moss role. That's something that BMarsh really wasn't very good at, and is probably a reason that Denver didn't throw deep much. Royal goes into the slot, and I think Decker will be the guy opposite Demaryius - the "make the tough catch that keeps the drive alive" guy.

 
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I used to H-A-T-E this guy when I bet against the Gophers on Saturdays.

He was always wide open and he caught everything in sight. I see no reason why he won't be a good pro.

 
just took him at 2.06 (22nd overall) in our rookie draft.

like his hands, mental and physical toughness, and aggressiveness.

also like that he's at Fitzgerald's camp. =winner

already bought my ticket, and i'm boarding the train early. choo-choo!

 
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I have been on this train since the draft. I have targeted him and shipley in every rookie draft I did. Great value in the 2nd or 3rd round IMO. I have Decker a little higher that Shipley because in immediate opportunity, but have a man crush for both.

 
They didn't throw much? They were 9th in attempts per game.

They threw more than Green Bay, Dallas, Philly, the Saints and Favre.

Deep may be what you meant.
yes, that is what I meant. The passing game was definitely lacking a deep threat last year.
I like Decker and Thomas but can Orton can it throw it downfield?

I took him at 2.08 (#24) in May. I also like Andre Roberts and took him at 3.06.
This guy had a horse poo QB throwing to him his entire college career and routinely got hung out to dry. Orton has to be at least a little better than that.
 
what value, if any, does Decker have in a re-draft? In other words does the potential project to the top 50 WR category this year?
Good question and really it will be hard to answer right now since he hasn't really practiced with the Broncos much because of an injury but camp should tell a much better story. I think McDaniels for whatever reason doesn't like Royal as a top guy so one if not both of the denver rookies should get a legit shot. I actually like Decker a little more because I think Thomas is more of a deep threat and if you look at denver's present and future Qb it doesn't look like they will be a deep passing team. Now I'm not trying to say Orton and Tebow have rag arms but neither is known to have a Manning arm either so I expect more short passes and Decker seems to be that type of guy.
 
People expect him to be the second coming of Eddie McCaffrey....
:bs: :lmao: :lmao:
Is it funny because he's white? If you have seen him play, he is very much in the Ed McCaffrey mold. He isn't going to overwhelm defenders with his speed or agility. He does, however, have good size (Decker is listed at 6'2", 215; McCaffrey was listed at 6'5" 215), very good hands and he seems to do just about everything right. I think he has the making of a prototypical move-the-chains kind of possession WR. I think it's an accurate comparison.
 
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People expect him to be the second coming of Eddie McCaffrey....
:unsure: :lmao: :lmao:
Is it funny because he's white? If you have seen him play, he is very much in the Ed McCaffrey mold. He isn't going to overwhelm defenders with his speed or agility. He does, however, have good size (Decker is listed at 6'2", 215; McCaffrey was listed at 6'5" 215), very good hands and he seems to do just about everything right. I think he has the making of a prototypical move-the-chains kind of possession WR. I think it's an accurate comparison.
I think Hines Ward is a good comparison for Decker too.
 
i think riley cooper is the next ed mccaffery. of course, i have thought at least 10 WRs were the next Ed in the last few years.

 
Big Decker fan. He was a lot of fun to watch in college. Just got him at 3.01 in my dynasty league...I had to have him and was afraid that someone would nab him in the 2nd, but I got lucky.

Not sure about the Broncos, they have a crowded WR corps....but if Decker can keep up his form from Minnesota, he'll be awesome.

 
Being from MN, I think Decker is a great talent and yes he often got hung out to dry. My question is about opportunity - especially this year. Jabar Gaffney is still in uniform and seems to be a favorite of Josh McDaniels. Just seems like Decker may wind up on special teams and in a few packages. That's just a guess though. Discuss...

 
Being from MN, I think Decker is a great talent and yes he often got hung out to dry. My question is about opportunity - especially this year. Jabar Gaffney is still in uniform and seems to be a favorite of Josh McDaniels. Just seems like Decker may wind up on special teams and in a few packages. That's just a guess though. Discuss...
If Decker is the goods, then a starting spot is the for the taking. Seems like the coaches want Royal to be the slot guy, and he spent 2009 proving he's not a starter. Gaffney gets love because he's the 'savvy vet that knows the system'. But you have to think Denver doesn't view him as the long term solution. You have to think in Denver's perfect scenario, Royal plays the slot, Welker role, Demaryius becomes the Rod Smith, and maybe there's a spot for Decker to be the Houshmanzadeh, to mix my comparisons (just trying to avoid comparing Decker to the white guy, ha). The book on Demaryius is that he's gonna need time, doesn't know routes coming from Tech, etc. For a 1st round WR, he has a lot of questions. In a PPR league, especially, Decker is very interesting. I think you might be right to be worried about opportunity as a rookie, but I think you can say that about every rookie, from Dez Bryant on down. In a redraft, Decker is last WR material. But in dynasty, there's some things to like about his situation.
 
I expect Decker to outperform Demaryius Thomas THIS YEAR, not sure about in the future though, they did spend a high pick on Thomas.

Does Stokely or the others have a shout in all this? I remember reading somewhere that Stokely was helping Decker along in his recovery.

 
People expect him to be the second coming of Eddie McCaffrey....
:popcorn: :hifive: :lmao:
Is it funny because he's white? If you have seen him play, he is very much in the Ed McCaffrey mold. He isn't going to overwhelm defenders with his speed or agility. He does, however, have good size (Decker is listed at 6'2", 215; McCaffrey was listed at 6'5" 215), very good hands and he seems to do just about everything right. I think he has the making of a prototypical move-the-chains kind of possession WR. I think it's an accurate comparison.
I would hope being white wouldn't bar one from contention for being the second coming of ed mccaffrey
 
Donsmith753 said:
I expect Decker to outperform Demaryius Thomas THIS YEAR, not sure about in the future though, they did spend a high pick on Thomas.Does Stokely or the others have a shout in all this? I remember reading somewhere that Stokely was helping Decker along in his recovery.
I'm not sure Stokley makes the team this year. Stokes is on the back side of his career and doesn't do special teams. He does bring leadership, so I could see him making the team over Lloyd, but that's about it, IMO. When you get down to it though, Stokley is 34 and Lloyd is 29.Demaryius - #1 pickRoyal - young, special teams starDecker #3 pickGaffney - experienced vetBrandon Lloyd - has played well in the pastKenny McKinley - young, plays special teams, untapped potentialIMO that's your WR corps.
 
Donsmith753 said:
I expect Decker to outperform Demaryius Thomas THIS YEAR, not sure about in the future though, they did spend a high pick on Thomas.

Does Stokely or the others have a shout in all this? I remember reading somewhere that Stokely was helping Decker along in his recovery.
I'm not sure Stokley makes the team this year. Stokes is on the back side of his career and doesn't do special teams. He does bring leadership, so I could see him making the team over Lloyd, but that's about it, IMO. When you get down to it though, Stokley is 34 and Lloyd is 29.Demaryius - #1 pick

Royal - young, special teams star

Decker #3 pick

Gaffney - experienced vet

Brandon Lloyd - has played well in the past

Kenny McKinley - young, plays special teams, untapped potential

IMO that's your WR corps.
Lloyd can also play on the outside whereas there seems to be a logjam of slot guys (Stokely, Mckinley, Royal). I wouldn't be surprised to see Denver hold on to 7 WRs this year, but if they were to carry only 6, I think Moleculo is right. Stokely is probably the odd man out due to age and the glut of slot WRs.
 
As an opposing Big Ten fan, I can attest that Decker was always a huge pain for opponents in college. I see nothing but upside.

 
Let's be real here. He's white. That's a problem. This is like a couple years ago when everyone was on the Brian Leonard train. Of course he didn't make it.

It's not racist, it's not insensitive. It's just a fact. White RBs and WRs have a VERY difficult time making it the NFL. One or two might slip through the cracks, but the exception to the rule is so rare and remote that it pretty much isn't worth discussing until it happens.

 
Let's be real here. He's white. That's a problem. This is like a couple years ago when everyone was on the Brian Leonard train. Of course he didn't make it.It's not racist, it's not insensitive. It's just a fact. White RBs and WRs have a VERY difficult time making it the NFL. One or two might slip through the cracks, but the exception to the rule is so rare and remote that it pretty much isn't worth discussing until it happens.
wes welker is incredibly obscure... :thumbup:
 
Let's be real here. He's white. That's a problem. This is like a couple years ago when everyone was on the Brian Leonard train. Of course he didn't make it.It's not racist, it's not insensitive. It's just a fact. White RBs and WRs have a VERY difficult time making it the NFL. One or two might slip through the cracks, but the exception to the rule is so rare and remote that it pretty much isn't worth discussing until it happens.
You're confusing WR with CB. Enough white WRs put up relevant numbers that it's not at all a surprise when another does it. No white player has started at CB since Jason Sehorn, though.With that said, and at the risk of taking this thread down a dead-end trail, you're confusing correlation with causation in a huge, huge way. Being white has absolutely nothing to do with whether a WR succeeds or fails. Nothing at all. The predominance of black players has a lot to do with socioeconomic factors and little to do with racism on the part of the coaches- just like the fact that there are no good black tennis players outside of the Williams sisters and no good black golfers outside of Tiger Woods doesn't mean that black people can't play golf, or that Wimbledon officials are raging racists.If you gave me two absolutely identical WRs- same height, same weight, same skills, same tools, same history, same everything- and one was white while the other was black, and you asked me their chances of succeeding, I'd say they were pretty comparable. Few white receivers have been successful recently, but few white receivers have been DRAFTED in a position indicating NFL GMs expected them to be successful. I'd be interested in seeing a list of white receivers drafted in the first 3 rounds over the last decade and comparing it to a comparable list of black receivers. No doubt the second list would be much, much longer... but I sincerely doubt it would be substantively better.
 
How's this guy compare with the rookie from Texas (Shipley?) who I believe ended up at Cleveland?

Much better current day situation for the offense in Denver, but I think the skill set for the 2 WR is pretty similar.

 
How's this guy compare with the rookie from Texas (Shipley?) who I believe ended up at Cleveland?Much better current day situation for the offense in Denver, but I think the skill set for the 2 WR is pretty similar.
Shipley is in Cincinnati. I took Decker at 3.09 in a rookie draft. I think he fits the offense better. He is smart, runs great routes, as the measurables and has good hands. Should make a great possession WR for PPR leagues. I like the Hines Ward comparison. I wonder how his blocking is. If it's as great as Hines Ward then Decker should be an every down WR.ETA: Is the real reason he went in the 3rd because of the foot injury? That's the only real concern I have.
 
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ATC1 said:
houston said:
How's this guy compare with the rookie from Texas (Shipley?) who I believe ended up at Cleveland?

Much better current day situation for the offense in Denver, but I think the skill set for the 2 WR is pretty similar.
Shipley is in Cincinnati. I took Decker at 3.09 in a rookie draft. I think he fits the offense better. He is smart, runs great routes, as the measurables and has good hands. Should make a great possession WR for PPR leagues.

I like the Hines Ward comparison. I wonder how his blocking is. If it's as great as Hines Ward then Decker should be an every down WR.

ETA: Is the real reason he went in the 3rd because of the foot injury? That's the only real concern I have.
It's very good - and he loves to do it. That's one of the reasons why I always think of Hines Ward when I watch him play.
 
I still like Gaffney as a borderline sleeper in 2010 (although his ADP is rising above sleeper status now). But after reading this thread, I'm open-minded enough to handcuff Decker to him in any PPR league that allows at least 20 roster spots.

 
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houston said:
How's this guy compare with the rookie from Texas (Shipley?) who I believe ended up at Cleveland?Much better current day situation for the offense in Denver, but I think the skill set for the 2 WR is pretty similar.
Not even close, really. Decker is 3 inches taller and a step faster. Decker can play outside (like Muhsin or Ward). Shipley is going to be a slot guy. They are both white though.
 
decker highlights...

i have seen some other highlights where his RAC looked unimpressive... not that explosive, didn't break a lot of tackles...

took him in a recent dynasty startup as our 5th WR selected, was also thinking about gilyard... unusually, didn't check their respective highlights first... gilyard looked very dynamic, so i had a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach at the time... after thinking about it, though, i think it was a good pick... gilyard could have the talent to emerge as a starter outside eventually, but if the rams go with avery & robinson/gibson/foster?, he could be more likely to be a situational slot WR for a few years...

i do think thomas and decker have the talent to start... decker is probably more pro ready, based on his college scheme, but not sure if either starts this year (they both could in a year or so?)... gaffney sounds like most likely for one starter... royal is called a starter and slot guy, so does he start outside on early downs, shift to the slot on passing downs, with the insertion of thomas or decker on outside? or does he come in on passing situations, with thomas or decker starting? thomas does sound raw, so he also may be more likely to be used situationally at first, possibly as a deep threat (he may be the fastest WR on team - does royal run a 4.4?)...

as to decker & shipley, latter reportedly ran a 4.57 at combine (with lafell?), probably about what was expected... i think he is more welker-LIKE than decker, & with ocho & bryant on outside, he will clearly be in the slot... i think decker could play the slot, but it sounds like they have plans to use royal there... decker was unable to run a 40 time due to foot injury (similar to thomas), but obviously broncos weren't overly concerned with his speed... doesn't look like a 4.4 guy (4.5-4.6?)...

decker does look like a prototypical possession WR... hopefully he can be better than mccaffery... invoking WRs like carter and ward (not to say he is identical, of course, but there are some resemblances) is a lot more optimistic... he does have phenomenal hands... might be best in class (bryant & tate also outstanding)... with his size, along with thomas outside, they could both be formidable red zone weapons... he won't run away from people, and may never be a star, but i think he could be good-very good if things break right (hopefully not his foot again)...

my biggest concern is he doesn't always flash a lot of separation in highlights, so how will he fare against faster and more athletic, talented, experienced DBs at next level? call it a gut feeling, but i have a good feeling about him... he seems to have a knack for positioning his body like a rebounder in basketball, and getting between ball & defender... great body control, hands, ball skills, concentration, toughness, competitiveness... so he can get receptions even with DBs draped all over him, without a car length of separation... :thumbdown: as noted above, i think, he isn't a knucklehead (highest wonderlic in scouting process), so getting up to speed quickly on the playbook shouldn't be a problem...

a last concern (in dynasty), his mid to longer term fate could be linked to tebow, but i may be in minority that thinks tebow will start by 2011 & pan out, so not a massive concern for me... if tebow has better accuracy initially in short to intermediate routes, that could dovetail better with decker than thomas' physical traits, skill set & game anyways...

in a few years, i could see him with possible marginal WR2, good WR3 upside... this year, in redraft, not as excited...

* blocking, i can't comment on, but he has good size (as does thomas, they could have nice bookend blocking WRs)... ward is one of the best ever, not because of size, but attitude, want to, etc... we'll see if decker & thomas have that...

** encouraging to see foot is well enough to participate in fitz/s camp... IF he does have what it takes to contribute on some level this year, hopefully the foot won't be an obstacle to that happening...

 
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I love ED this year even in redraft because of his ADP. You can't really expect too much from a first year WR, but in most redraft leagues he can be drafted as your last guy before a kicker.

 
I used to H-A-T-E this guy when I bet against the Gophers on Saturdays.

He was always wide open and he caught everything in sight. I see no reason why he won't be a good pro.
As a Wisc Badger fan, I have to agree - Decker was always money. Not that the Badgers had the worlds best d-backs, but they are good, and Decker was the kind of WOut that made everyone look bad
 
I honestly have no idea how he's going to pan out in the NFL, but he was just absurdly good in college. He was simply dominant.

 
They didn't throw much? They were 9th in attempts per game.

They threw more than Green Bay, Dallas, Philly, the Saints and Favre.

Deep may be what you meant.
yes, that is what I meant. The passing game was definitely lacking a deep threat last year.
I like Decker and Thomas but can Orton can it throw it downfield?

I took him at 2.08 (#24) in May. I also like Andre Roberts and took him at 3.06.
Once or twice a game yes, or really once or twice every two to three games. But this would appear to play to Decker's strength.
 
Let's be real here. He's white. That's a problem. This is like a couple years ago when everyone was on the Brian Leonard train. Of course he didn't make it.

It's not racist, it's not insensitive. It's just a fact. White RBs and WRs have a VERY difficult time making it the NFL. One or two might slip through the cracks, but the exception to the rule is so rare and remote that it pretty much isn't worth discussing until it happens.
You're confusing WR with CB. Enough white WRs put up relevant numbers that it's not at all a surprise when another does it. No white player has started at CB since Jason Sehorn, though.With that said, and at the risk of taking this thread down a dead-end trail, you're confusing correlation with causation in a huge, huge way. Being white has absolutely nothing to do with whether a WR succeeds or fails. Nothing at all. The predominance of black players has a lot to do with socioeconomic factors and little to do with racism on the part of the coaches- just like the fact that there are no good black tennis players outside of the Williams sisters and no good black golfers outside of Tiger Woods doesn't mean that black people can't play golf, or that Wimbledon officials are raging racists.

If you gave me two absolutely identical WRs- same height, same weight, same skills, same tools, same history, same everything- and one was white while the other was black, and you asked me their chances of succeeding, I'd say they were pretty comparable. Few white receivers have been successful recently, but few white receivers have been DRAFTED in a position indicating NFL GMs expected them to be successful. I'd be interested in seeing a list of white receivers drafted in the first 3 rounds over the last decade and comparing it to a comparable list of black receivers. No doubt the second list would be much, much longer... but I sincerely doubt it would be substantively better.
There are plenty of good white receivers in the NFL, but few have ever ascended to WR1 status. I thought Matt Jones was going to do it but he liked to Yayo too much. C-c-c-c-c-c-cyeah!!http://blog.mrhacks.com/wp-content/uploads...06/DrRockso.jpg

 
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How did Decker look this week (for those that saw the game)? And when did he first enter the game?

Thanks for any info.

 
Let's be real here. He's white. That's a problem. This is like a couple years ago when everyone was on the Brian Leonard train. Of course he didn't make it.

It's not racist, it's not insensitive. It's just a fact. White RBs and WRs have a VERY difficult time making it the NFL. One or two might slip through the cracks, but the exception to the rule is so rare and remote that it pretty much isn't worth discussing until it happens.
You're confusing WR with CB. Enough white WRs put up relevant numbers that it's not at all a surprise when another does it. No white player has started at CB since Jason Sehorn, though.With that said, and at the risk of taking this thread down a dead-end trail, you're confusing correlation with causation in a huge, huge way. Being white has absolutely nothing to do with whether a WR succeeds or fails. Nothing at all. The predominance of black players has a lot to do with socioeconomic factors and little to do with racism on the part of the coaches- just like the fact that there are no good black tennis players outside of the Williams sisters and no good black golfers outside of Tiger Woods doesn't mean that black people can't play golf, or that Wimbledon officials are raging racists.

If you gave me two absolutely identical WRs- same height, same weight, same skills, same tools, same history, same everything- and one was white while the other was black, and you asked me their chances of succeeding, I'd say they were pretty comparable. Few white receivers have been successful recently, but few white receivers have been DRAFTED in a position indicating NFL GMs expected them to be successful. I'd be interested in seeing a list of white receivers drafted in the first 3 rounds over the last decade and comparing it to a comparable list of black receivers. No doubt the second list would be much, much longer... but I sincerely doubt it would be substantively better.
There are plenty of good white receivers in the NFL, but few have ever ascended to WR1 status. I thought Matt Jones was going to do it but he liked to Yayo too much. C-c-c-c-c-c-cyeah!!http://blog.mrhacks.com/wp-content/uploads...06/DrRockso.jpg
I am not confusing WRs with CB's, and I am not confusing correlation with causation, and I disagree that there are plenty of good white WRs in the NFL. Let's make a list of the top white WR's in the past 20 years. I'll start:1. Ed McCaffrey

2. Wes Welker

3. Brandon Stokely

4. Wayne Chrebet

Well, that's about all I got. There are 32 teams in the NFL, and if we only count WR1 and WR2, that means there are 64 guys per year starting at WR. Over 10 years that's 640 chances for a white WR to start. Over 20 years that's 1280 chances. 1280. That's a lot of chances. And these four guys are the best ones? Who's next on the list? How about:

5. Drew Bennett

6. Joe Jurevicius

I'm really running out of names here.

You can chalk it up to socio-economic factors or whatever you want. The point is, white WRs just don't make it very often. And are you serious about comparing a list of white and black WRs drafted in the first three rounds? I'll take Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, Reggie Wayne, Andre Johnson, and Marvin Harrison. Who's on your list?

 
(Rotoworld) According to the Denver Post, 2010 third-round pick Eric Decker stands "a good chance" of being a starter in his second year.Analysis: Decker's rookie year was delayed by a Lisfranc fracture suffered during his senior season at Minnesota, but he has the talent to unseat Jabar Gaffney as a physical, possession complement to Brandon Lloyd. Though he caught just six passes in 2010, Decker contributed heavily on special teams, averaging 25.3 yards per kick return with eight tackles on kickoff and punt coverage.
Decker is a guy that I sort of liked as a dynasty prospect last year. With Dem Thomas likely starting on the PUP and a new HC in DEN, it really does seem like Decker could have a real shot this year. I think he might still be very cheap in most dynasty leagues and possibly a good buy low and stash player.
 
Is it just me or does it seem like Denver is going to be more of a run O this year than last year??

This could decrease loyds and deckers value quite a bit..

I hope he does break out though.. he had a solid college career...

 
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