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ESPN's 30 for 30- Buffalo Bills episode premieres 12/12 (1 Viewer)

ghostguy123 said:
Jesus, just watched the Hillsboro one. The scene with just the mash of people lifeless with chaos all around it, good ####### lord.

Obviously all the attempted cover up was as bad as it gets, and those people should be murdered in hilarious and painful ways on pay per view for all of us to enjoy because they are the lowest of the low for slandering others to make themselves look better, but wow...........................they didnt even need to go into all that cover up and this would have been an incredibly good/emotional/strong documentary.

Add the cover up and follow up to it, and this is a fabulous, though hard to watch, doc.
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Yep. The best 30 for 30.

 
Greg Olsen doing part the 7th floor rap song is shocking and hilarious at the same time. Who knew he had it in him :shock:

I don't know if this was better than the first U 30 for 30 but it was really good.

 
Raider Nation said:
Whoa, they just showed a promo for the next 30 for 30 on February 8. Miracle on Ice from the USSR's perspective.

:boner:
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Does that come with a side of schadenfreude?

17seconds said:
ghostguy123 said:
Jesus, just watched the Hillsboro one. The scene with just the mash of people lifeless with chaos all around it, good ####### lord.

Obviously all the attempted cover up was as bad as it gets, and those people should be murdered in hilarious and painful ways on pay per view for all of us to enjoy because they are the lowest of the low for slandering others to make themselves look better, but wow...........................they didnt even need to go into all that cover up and this would have been an incredibly good/emotional/strong documentary.

Add the cover up and follow up to it, and this is a fabulous, though hard to watch, doc.
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Yep. The best 30 for 30.
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Still need to watch that.

 
17seconds said:
ghostguy123 said:
Jesus, just watched the Hillsboro one. The scene with just the mash of people lifeless with chaos all around it, good ####### lord.

Obviously all the attempted cover up was as bad as it gets, and those people should be murdered in hilarious and painful ways on pay per view for all of us to enjoy because they are the lowest of the low for slandering others to make themselves look better, but wow...........................they didnt even need to go into all that cover up and this would have been an incredibly good/emotional/strong documentary.

Add the cover up and follow up to it, and this is a fabulous, though hard to watch, doc.
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Yep. The best 30 for 30.
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its a weird one to rank. It isnt close to my favorite 30 for 30, but it should probably be a different classification of rankings.

either way, ####.

 
hammerva said:
Greg Olsen doing part the 7th floor rap song is shocking and hilarious at the same time. Who knew he had it in him :shock:

I don't know if this was better than the first U 30 for 30 but it was really good.
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just saw this last night. was a good one.

and as an OSU fan, wow. Such a bad call.

 
Didn't see the point of this one going in and didn't really enjoy it. It didn't seem like this was a story that needed to be told.

A dirty program got caught, cleaned itself up and then got dirty again. Yes, the teams were unbelievable, but does it really mean that much if you're cheating?

There was a part where they talk about Santana Moss and some other guys being put on track scholarships to circumvent the sanctions. Isn't that against the rules. Maybe it wasn't then, but I'm pretty sure it is now (anyone who plays on the football team and has a scholarship has to use a football scholarship)

 
TLEF316 said:
Didn't see the point of this one going in and didn't really enjoy it. It didn't seem like this was a story that needed to be told.

A dirty program got caught, cleaned itself up and then got dirty again. Yes, the teams were unbelievable, but does it really mean that much if you're cheating?

There was a part where they talk about Santana Moss and some other guys being put on track scholarships to circumvent the sanctions. Isn't that against the rules. Maybe it wasn't then, but I'm pretty sure it is now (anyone who plays on the football team and has a scholarship has to use a football scholarship)
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sure, since every team cheats

 
ghostguy123 said:
TLEF316 said:
Didn't see the point of this one going in and didn't really enjoy it. It didn't seem like this was a story that needed to be told.

A dirty program got caught, cleaned itself up and then got dirty again. Yes, the teams were unbelievable, but does it really mean that much if you're cheating?

There was a part where they talk about Santana Moss and some other guys being put on track scholarships to circumvent the sanctions. Isn't that against the rules. Maybe it wasn't then, but I'm pretty sure it is now (anyone who plays on the football team and has a scholarship has to use a football scholarship)
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sure, since every team cheats
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Not saying I don't agree (I think pretty much every major program cheats to some extent) but why doesn't everyone get caught?

 
Raider Nation said:
Ray Karpis said:
God, this makes me hate Ohio State and Tressel...worst call in a key moment ever.

I forgot how awful that call was.
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Bad calls/non-calls have a way of canceling each other out.
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Bad calls both ways in every game that's played...

But that was last play of the game...national championship...and it wasn't a "missed call" (like your link)...it was a flag on a penalty that unquestionably did not happen, thrown by a referee who already had signaled incomplete pass.

Awful.

 
Ray Karpis said:
Raider Nation said:
Ray Karpis said:
God, this makes me hate Ohio State and Tressel...worst call in a key moment ever.

I forgot how awful that call was.
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Bad calls/non-calls have a way of canceling each other out.
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Bad calls both ways in every game that's played...

But that was last play of the game...national championship...and it wasn't a "missed call" (like your link)...it was a flag on a penalty that unquestionably did not happen, thrown by a referee who already had signaled incomplete pass.

Awful.
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BroncoFreak_2K3 said:
Ray Karpis said:
Raider Nation said:
Ray Karpis said:
God, this makes me hate Ohio State and Tressel...worst call in a key moment ever.

I forgot how awful that call was.
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Bad calls/non-calls have a way of canceling each other out.
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Bad calls both ways in every game that's played...

But that was last play of the game...national championship...and it wasn't a "missed call" (like your link)...it was a flag on a penalty that unquestionably did not happen, thrown by a referee who already had signaled incomplete pass.

Awful.
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Premier said:
Yea but still, there was a holding earlier in the game they missed. :loco:
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LOL @ "earlier in the game." There were about 2:00 left in the 4th Q with Ohio State leading 17-14. If that blatant defensive holding is called, the Buckeyes run out the clock and there IS no overtime in the first place.

BUT THAT'S NOT THE PLAY EVERYONE REMEMBERS THE MOST, RN!!!

 
Raider%20Nation said:
Premier said:
Yea but still, there was a holding earlier in the game they missed. :loco:
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LOL @ "earlier in the game." There were about 2:00 left in the 4th Q with Ohio State leading 17-14. If that blatant defensive holding is called, the Buckeyes run out the clock and there IS no overtime in the first place.BUT THAT'S NOT THE PLAY EVERYONE REMEMBERS THE MOST, RN!!!
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The play happened at 2:18 and Miami had at least 1 timeout left, so OSU would not have been able to run out the clock.
 
Joe Summer said:
Raider%20Nation said:
Premier said:
Yea but still, there was a holding earlier in the game they missed. :loco:
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LOL @ "earlier in the game." There were about 2:00 left in the 4th Q with Ohio State leading 17-14. If that blatant defensive holding is called, the Buckeyes run out the clock and there IS no overtime in the first place.BUT THAT'S NOT THE PLAY EVERYONE REMEMBERS THE MOST, RN!!!
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The play happened at 2:18 and Miami had at least 1 timeout left, so OSU would not have been able to run out the clock.
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How do you know that?

 
Anyway, best-case scenario for Miami, if Ohio State doesn't get another 1st down on the next three subsequent rushes is having the ball on their own 10 or 20 with no timeouts, less than 0:30 left and Ken Dorsey at QB. Good luck with that. Let's just all agree that the deserving team won the game in the end.

 
Those fine clean-cut student-athletes at that respected Big-10 institution of higher learning beat a band of thugs. What's the problem?

 
Raider Nation said:
ESPN Films today revealed the films that will make up its 30 for 30 slate for the fall of 2014. The series will return for a six-week run Tuesday nights on ESPN beginning October 7, with one additional film in December. This October marks the fifth anniversary of 30 for 30s launch in 2009.

The upcoming slate will kick off with Playing for the Mob, which delves into how mobster Henry Hill once helped orchestrate the fixing of Boston College basketball games. The film is narrated by actor Ray Liotta, who played Hill in the iconic movie Goodfellas.
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Mind blown, Just watched this and I'm like "hey that guy looks just like Jim Sweeney, a guy I used to go to church (and Russian mission trips) with". Turns out, same guy.

 
The DVR is getting a workout tonight. 30 for 30, Shameless, Walking Dead, Better Call Saul, House of Lies... even crappy Girls. Good thing I don't go to bed before 4:00 anyway.

 
belljr said:
For anyone I think this is the 2001 hbo documentary

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=huokfPgsZok
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You can't even equate this to any upset we've ever seen. Not Jets/Colts. Not even Douglas/Tyson. That Russian team would have won the Stanley Cup every year. The Russian coach arrogantly pulling Tretiak was a killer.

Fun facts from Wiki:

- In the four Olympics prior to 1980, Soviet teams had gone 27–1–1 and outscored the opposition 175–44.

- In head-to-head match-ups against the United States, the cumulative score over that period was 28–7.

- In exhibitions that year, Soviet club teams went 5–3–1 against NHL teams, and a year earlier the Soviet national team had routed the NHL All-Stars 6–0 to win the Challenge Cup.

- In the last exhibition game against the Soviets at Madison Square Garden on February 9, 1980, the Soviets beat the U.S. 10–3.

This was just a once-in-a-lifetime fluke thing.

 
Been looking forward to this one for a while. Probably won't be able to watch until next weekend though.

 
Raider Nation said:
For anyone I think this is the 2001 hbo documentary

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Maybe once in 5 lifetimes. It was the equivalent of a Division 3 football team beating the Pittsburgh Steelers. Boys against men - literally.I wish everyone could have witnessed that day in this country. It was so much more than a hockey game.

 
Raider Nation said:
belljr said:
For anyone I think this is the 2001 hbo documentary

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=huokfPgsZok
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You can't even equate this to any upset we've ever seen. Not Jets/Colts. Not even Douglas/Tyson. That Russian team would have won the Stanley Cup every year. The Russian coach arrogantly pulling Tretiak was a killer.

Fun facts from Wiki:

- In the four Olympics prior to 1980, Soviet teams had gone 27–1–1 and outscored the opposition 175–44.

- In head-to-head match-ups against the United States, the cumulative score over that period was 28–7.

- In exhibitions that year, Soviet club teams went 5–3–1 against NHL teams, and a year earlier the Soviet national team had routed the NHL All-Stars 6–0 to win the Challenge Cup.

- In the last exhibition game against the Soviets at Madison Square Garden on February 9, 1980, the Soviets beat the U.S. 10–3.

This was just a once-in-a-lifetime fluke thing.
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you're killing dentist with this, you know.

 
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