ESPN's Mortensen said the Colts won't pass on Luck (1 Viewer)

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I guess the "Suck for Luck" thread I started has ran it's course, so here's a new one.

https://twitter.com/#/mortreport/status/155706394471964676

@mortreport

Chris Mortensen

#Colts @JimIrsay, the poetry man, won't pass on Andrew Luck. Dad dealt Elway in '83, 15 yrs later, Jim took Manning & now it's his Luck.

According to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, the Colts "won't pass" on Stanford QB Andrew Luck with the No. 1 overall pick in next spring's draft.

There's yet to be a report suggesting the Colts would even consider passing on Luck, so the question is not whom Indy will take at No. 1, but what it plans to do with Peyton Manning. Although Luck would surely benefit from learning under Manning for a season or two, it's extremely unlikely to happen in a league where Blaine Gabbert was allowed to make 14 starts as a rookie.

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Source: Chris Mortensen on Twitter - Rotoworld.com

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Maybe they are Upping the ante? I can't say that I blame them.

 

[pantherclub]

there is a less then zero percent chance that the colts pass on Luck.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

there is a less then zero percent chance that the colts pass on Luck.

win win situation for the Colts regardless.

 

[Raider Nation]

Shocking development.

 

[rizzler]

there is a less then zero percent chance that the colts pass on Luck.

why less than zero?if I was betting on the situation, Id say they also take Luck.But I also feel as though if a team offered the farm, they'd strongly consider it. they need a lot more than just a QB.There is a chance they pass for the right price. very unlikely, but I dont think it's zero, by any stretch

 

[EBF]

Starting to feel like the Colts will just cut Peyton to avoid paying him all that money.

Can't really blame them. Luck is ready to play and should be good enough to make them a competitive team in year one.

 

[sports_fan]

If Peyton's traded, what does he bring? More than what the Bengals got for Palmer?

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

If Peyton's traded, what does he bring? More than what the Bengals got for Palmer?

The Bengals didn't owe Palmer 28 million. I doubt Manning brings much and will probably get cut. I can see him in a 49ers or Jets uniform next year.

 

[rizzler]

If Peyton's traded, what does he bring? More than what the Bengals got for Palmer?

How on earth does a team bite until they are fully guaranteed of his health?Peyton is literally worth about 4 1st rnd picks... Which no team in their right mind would pony up unless they had it written in stone that peytona) can playb) is fully healedc) shows he can playd) shows he can take a hitI dont know how they trade him unless a plethora of variables are confirmed. the risk isnt worth the cost.like Hoss said, he'd be cut.

 

[Abraham]

I think he's going to get cut.

 

[FavreCo]

I think he's going to get cut.

...and starts in SF in 2012. All the pieces are in place except QB there.

 

[Raider Nation]

I think he's going to get cut.

...and starts in SF in 2012. All the pieces are in place except QB there.

Yeah, Smith has been terrible.

 

[FavreCo]

I think he's going to get cut.

...and starts in SF in 2012. All the pieces are in place except QB there.

Yeah, Smith has been terrible.

Smith IS terrible. Add his play to Harbaugh's coach of the year accomplishments.

 

[Raider Nation]

I think he's going to get cut.

...and starts in SF in 2012. All the pieces are in place except QB there.

Yeah, Smith has been terrible.

Smith IS terrible.

No.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Sports Illustrated's Peter King reports both the Colts and Peyton Manning may be amenable to pushing back the March 8 deadline to exercise Manning's $28 million option bonus

 

[undercover]

IF...and that is a big IF....Manning is healthy he will be the starting QB for the Colts with Luck as his back-up.

I think there is a bigger chance Manning retires than he is cut.

I'm hearing that he has stenosis (even though they won't say it publicly) as well as the nerve regeneration issue.

If Manning does come back and has a good year for the Colts, then he could be traded next year if that is what both parties want.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

IF...and that is a big IF....Manning is healthy he will be the starting QB for the Colts with Luck as his back-up.I think there is a bigger chance Manning retires than he is cut.I'm hearing that he has stenosis (even though they won't say it publicly) as well as the nerve regeneration issue.If Manning does come back and has a good year for the Colts, then he could be traded next year if that is what both parties want.

I would love the scenario where Manning plays another year with the Colts with Luck backing him up. Then Manning have a great year and the Colts clean up on a trade next off-season. Of course that's wishful thinking.

 

[undercover]

Hoss....that is the only scenario that makes sense. Manning won't get near what he can make as a Colt if he is cut and hasn't shown he can go back out and play at a high level again. Irsay will give Manning as much time as he needs to get healthy or make a decision to retire because he will have Luck in the wings.

 

[Pastor]

If Peyton's traded, what does he bring? More than what the Bengals got for Palmer?

He can't be traded before his bonus is due. That's the problem. They have to cut manning to get luck. They can't give 50 mil to the qb position.

 

[Fensalk]

If you were Peyton Manning and got cut, which team would you go to?

The 49ers? Cake division, amazing defense. Strong running game to back you up.

The Jets? Go man up against Tom Brady twice a year?

The Texans? Get revenge against the Colts by signing with a division rival?

The Broncos? A playoff team without a QB.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

If Peyton's traded, what does he bring? More than what the Bengals got for Palmer?

He can't be traded before his bonus is due. That's the problem. They have to cut manning to get luck. They can't give 50 mil to the qb position.

Not true. The new CBA doesn't require the Colts to pay Luck that much. Actually I've already heard on the NFL Network they can afford both easily.

 

[Fensalk]

If Peyton's traded, what does he bring? More than what the Bengals got for Palmer?

He can't be traded before his bonus is due. That's the problem. They have to cut manning to get luck. They can't give 50 mil to the qb position.

Not true. The new CBA doesn't require the Colts to pay Luck that much. Actually I've already heard on the NFL Network they can afford both easily.

Yes the way the rules have changed, I wonder if we will see more teams who are set at QB draft another near the top of the draft if he falls into their lap.

 

[cstu]

Sports Illustrated's Peter King reports both the Colts and Peyton Manning may be amenable to pushing back the March 8 deadline to exercise Manning's $28 million option bonus

Does Manning really want to stay in Indy - Luck or no Luck? He's near the end and you'd think he'd like another shot at another ring, which he won't be getting as a Colt.

 

[cstu]

If Peyton's traded, what does he bring? More than what the Bengals got for Palmer?

He can't be traded before his bonus is due. That's the problem. They have to cut manning to get luck. They can't give 50 mil to the qb position.

Not true. The new CBA doesn't require the Colts to pay Luck that much. Actually I've already heard on the NFL Network they can afford both easily.

Yes the way the rules have changed, I wonder if we will see more teams who are set at QB draft another near the top of the draft if he falls into their lap.

I think we already saw that last year - 6 QB's picked in the first 36 picks, the most since 1983.

 

[glumpy]

Starting to feel like the Colts will just cut Peyton to avoid paying him all that money. Can't really blame them. Luck is ready to play and should be good enough to make them a competitive team in year one.

Been saying this myself since listening to the arguments pro and con on ESPN radio about a month ago. Makes way too much sense.

 

[todisco1]

If you're Peyton Manning, do you really want to play for a team that drafts a QB first, ignoring the many other needs of the team? My whole problem with keeping both Manning and Luck is that Indy is not a competitor - they're a bad football team. With Manning they may win the division because he's that good, but they need a lot of pieces to become elite. I think if they draft Luck they should let Peyton go/trade him as they are clearly not trying to build an immediate contender around him.

 

[Rodeojones]

Evan Silva on twitter this morning...

#Colts today put out info that Peyton Manning's release would be "medical issue." Just greasing the skids for Manning's exit.

 

[FUBAR]

If you're Peyton Manning, do you really want to play for a team that drafts a QB first, ignoring the many other needs of the team? My whole problem with keeping both Manning and Luck is that Indy is not a competitor - they're a bad football team. With Manning they may win the division because he's that good, but they need a lot of pieces to become elite. I think if they draft Luck they should let Peyton go/trade him as they are clearly not trying to build an immediate contender around him.

IMO, the only way Peyton stays a Colt next year is if he's headed to the head office or coaching staff.

 

[twistd]

If Peyton's traded, what does he bring? More than what the Bengals got for Palmer?

He can't be traded before his bonus is due. That's the problem. They have to cut manning to get luck. They can't give 50 mil to the qb position.

Not true. The new CBA doesn't require the Colts to pay Luck that much. Actually I've already heard on the NFL Network they can afford both easily.

I can't see how they could afford both easily. I believe that his salary is somewhere in the vicinity of $20 million in 2012. If Luck is the first pick in the draft they still have to commit a sizable amount to him, despite the rookie salary cap. It is much less than it would have been without the rookie salary cap, but it is still a substantial amount of money.

 

[FUBAR]

If Peyton's traded, what does he bring? More than what the Bengals got for Palmer?

He can't be traded before his bonus is due. That's the problem. They have to cut manning to get luck. They can't give 50 mil to the qb position.

Not true. The new CBA doesn't require the Colts to pay Luck that much. Actually I've already heard on the NFL Network they can afford both easily.

I can't see how they could afford both easily. I believe that his salary is somewhere in the vicinity of $20 million in 2012. If Luck is the first pick in the draft they still have to commit a sizable amount to him, despite the rookie salary cap. It is much less than it would have been without the rookie salary cap, but it is still a substantial amount of money.

I've heard the same, they certainly can afford both. They wouldn't have much to spend on defense, which would likely mean they wouldn't do much if they even made it to the playoffs, but they could keep both.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

I have a feeling Manning will announce his retirement soon.

 

[BeTheMatch]

I have a feeling Manning will announce his retirement soon.

Wow. Based on anything more than a gut feeling?

 

[Cookiemonster]

What about an early season trade? I don't know when Manning's bonus is due, or if it is paid what it will do to the Colts salary cap, but how about keeping Manning & drafting Luck? Let Luck study under Peyton for the offseason/preseason/1st several games, then trading Manning before the trade deadline but after he has proven he is capable of playing. Should provide other teams the security to pony up the multiple 1sts that a Manning trade would demand, allow Luck some seasoning and load up on future picks + future salary cap room for rebuilding around Luck.

 

[Donnybrook]

I have a feeling Manning will announce his retirement soon.

If he does, it would remind me of Brett Favre retirement with the Jet. I believe Brett's retirement freed up a large portion of the Jets salary cap. I wonder if the Jets would of cut Brett if he had not retired. The Jets traded up for Sanchez in the following draft.Peyton retiriement might be a good public relations move for the Colts. It makes it look like Peyton made the decision. Of course, like Brett it doesn't preclude Manning from signing with another team if the doctors deem him healthy enough to play.

 

[cstu]

I have a feeling Manning will announce his retirement soon.

If he does, it would remind me of Brett Favre retirement with the Jet. I believe Brett's retirement freed up a large portion of the Jets salary cap. I wonder if the Jets would of cut Brett if he had not retired. The Jets traded up for Sanchez in the following draft.Peyton retiriement might be a good public relations move for the Colts. It makes it look like Peyton made the decision. Of course, like Brett it doesn't preclude Manning from signing with another team if the doctors deem him healthy enough to play.

Allowing a player to retire and not fight them signing with another team is way to let the player save face. For all intents and purposes though it's getting cut.

 

[Mario Kart]

Hmm, seems oddly similar to the "tantrums" people were saying Favre was throwing when he was getting shown the door with Rodgers coming in. The apparent "whining" that others said Favre was doing was criticized with him being called a prima donna and such. Comparisons were made about when it would be Manning's turn to step aside and many of those same people said Manning would never do what Favre did and continue to be a team player. Yet, here we are. Favre did play for three years with Rodgers and Manning, according to some, does not want to play behind Luck at all.

Where is the media outrage, bad mouthing of Manning's character, lack of team player, not wanting to help Luck at all, where is the fan outrage?

 

[General Tso]

Evan Silva on twitter this morning...

#Colts today put out info that Peyton Manning's release would be "medical issue." Just greasing the skids for Manning's exit.

Wow. That info leak is huge. Tells me all I need to know about what's coming. Very very sad. I'm a huge Pats fan but I honestly believe that Peyton Mannng was the best Quarterback f all time. Huge loss for the NFL if he is done.I'd love to see him on the Jets. I think we'd be talking about multiple championships were that to occur.

 

[twistd]

it is interesting that some of the Colt fans seem somewhat cavalier about Manning leaving. I don't care how prepared Luck is, or how much potential he may have, this season demonstrated Manning's value to this team. I believe if Manning would have been healthy they would have made the playoffs at a minimum. Instead they won two games. In my mind, you could argue that he is currently the most valuable player in the league. If the Colts were to go in to the 2012 season with Manning at the helm, with the same roster, they have a good chance of winning their division again, and making noise in the playoffs. If they start the season with Luck I think they will probably win four or five games.

All this said I think that the Colts have no choice but to take Luck. And if Manning can't play because of this most recent surgery, or he chooses to retire, then Manning isn't an option. But if Manning will be healthy enough to play, they are a much better team with Manning under center. If the Colts choose to let him go, and he can still play, it will be fascinating to see where he goes.

 

[Raider Nation]

I think he's going to get cut.

...and starts in SF in 2012. All the pieces are in place except QB there.

Yeah, Smith has been terrible.

Smith IS terrible. Add his play to Harbaugh's coach of the year accomplishments.

It must get exhausting being wrong all the time.

 

[FavreCo]

I think he's going to get cut.

...and starts in SF in 2012. All the pieces are in place except QB there.

Yeah, Smith has been terrible.

Smith IS terrible. Add his play to Harbaugh's coach of the year accomplishments.

It must get exhausting being wrong all the time.

Notice how I knew you would bump this. Somehow you beleive that run and probably win vindicates ya. At you look what he did today' guys.Let me cross this one part out.

 

[Raider Nation]

I think he's going to get cut.

...and starts in SF in 2012. All the pieces are in place except QB there.

Yeah, Smith has been terrible.

Smith IS terrible. Add his play to Harbaugh's coach of the year accomplishments.

It must get exhausting being wrong all the time.

Notice how I knew you would bump this. Somehow you beleive that run and probably win vindicates ya. At you look what he did today' guys.Let me cross this one part out.

I didn't realize he plays defense too. Excellent rebuttal.

 

[Raider Nation]

Smith is THE MAN!

That much is evident to (almost) everyone.

 

[FavreCo]

Waitingfor your next statement now that they won. You must have had thatalready typed. The guy is great.

 

[Raider Nation]

Waitingfor your next statement now that they won.

I made it before the drive.I made it before the GAME.Be humble and listen to others now and then.

 

[Raider Nation]

I think he's going to get cut.

...and starts in SF in 2012. All the pieces are in place except QB there.

Yeah, Smith has been terrible.

Smith IS terrible. Add his play to Harbaugh's coach of the year accomplishments.

^^^^Is that too long for a sig?

 

[FavreCo]

I think he's going to get cut.

...and starts in SF in 2012. All the pieces are in place except QB there.

Yeah, Smith has been terrible.

Smith IS terrible. Add his play to Harbaugh's coach of the year accomplishments.

^^^^Is that too long for a sig?

Why bother, you just have to remove it.

 

[Raider Nation]

Is Smith still "terrible"...?

Just for the record.

 

[FavreCo]

Is Smith still "terrible"...?Just for the record.

Played the greatest game of his 7 year career....by light years. But let's look at his WHOLE body of work. With the win, Manning won't be in SF anythiem soon that's or sure.

 

[Raider Nation]

Is Smith still "terrible"...?Just for the record.

Played the greatest game of his 7 year career....by light years. But let's look at his WHOLE body of work. With the win, Manning won't be in SF anythiem soon that's or sure.

So a guy is not allowed to improve? It was obvious earlier in the thread that you hadn't seen much of the Niners this year. You would not have used the word "terrible" if you had. In a lot of other years, he actually had a Pro Bowl-worthy season.