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Ex is letting 12 yo son stay home by himself all day. Cool? (1 Viewer)

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I lived in Arlington, TX when I was 12.  In the summertime, I wandered all over the place. It helped that I was a map nerd and could navigate from one end of Dallas County to the other end of Tarrant County,  so the two sqaure miles I roamed on my bike were child's play.  What a glorious time that was.

 
Wow. I simply cannot imagine ever having left my kids home alone under the age of 10. I guess I'm just paranoid, but that seems absolutely insane to me.
What age were you allowed to stay home alone at?  I assume you're in the 35+ age range like most on the board.  So i'd guess pretty young.

It's far safer nowadays than it was 20+ years ago based on all statistics out there.

I was an idiot in 3rd grade, but i was fine being by myself for a few hours.  A 12 year old should have no issue being by themself for a day unless they have some developmental issues.

 
What age were you allowed to stay home alone at?  I assume you're in the 35+ age range like most on the board.  So i'd guess pretty young.
I honestly don't recall. I had a stay at home mother, so being left home alone wasn't much of a factor. I'm not ducking your question, I simply can't answer it honestly. As for 35+, yea, plus quite a bit.

 
I'm not a parent--full disclosure.  With that said-- I would not leave any child home alone 3 days a week that is under high school age.  If I had a daughter- I wouldn't l wouldn't leave her home alone until she was 30.

 
What about more than one day?  What about three days a week every week?
This is my issue. A 12 year old staying home one day by themselves isnt a big deal but it sounds like this kid is spending 3 days a week indoors by himself all summer. That cant be good for the kid.

 
The only babysitter we need for our 10 and 12 year old boys... the xbox one. Turn it on and they will forget to eat and go to the bathroom.

 
This is my issue. A 12 year old staying home one day by themselves isnt a big deal but it sounds like this kid is spending 3 days a week indoors by himself all summer. That cant be good for the kid.
What do you think he'd be doing if mom worked from home those days?  My son is 16 now but even when we were home he barely came up for air out of his bedroom or the basement.

 
What do you think he'd be doing if mom worked from home those days?  My son is 16 now but even when we were home he barely came up for air out of his bedroom or the basement.
She can take him out a few days, no? Beach, pool, visit friends, movies, etc.

 
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If mom worked from home she likely wouldn't be able to take him those places anyway.  Or are you advocating that a 12 year old should have a dedicated parent/caregiver that takes them on adventures?  (I'm not saying you would be wrong to have that opinion, just trying to see if that is what yours is)

 
If mom worked from home she likely wouldn't be able to take him those places anyway.  Or are you advocating that a 12 year old should have a dedicated parent/caregiver that takes them on adventures?  (I'm not saying you would be wrong to have that opinion, just trying to see if that is what yours is)
Huh? Why not?

 
If mom worked from home she likely wouldn't be able to take him those places anyway.  Or are you advocating that a 12 year old should have a dedicated parent/caregiver that takes them on adventures?  (I'm not saying you would be wrong to have that opinion, just trying to see if that is what yours is)
I can work from home whenever I want basically.   I run the kids to the golf course, training/gym and friends houses a lot of days during the week :shrug:  

 
Not sure what that means. Parents dont take there kids to these places in the summer? Im not saying they have to take them out every single day.
I work from home and my job allows me the freedom to take some time off in the afternoons.  Had I know he was just sitting at home by himself all day, I'd make sure to take him to the water park at least once a week.  I'm trying to make plans to do as much this Friday.  

 
I can work from home whenever I want basically.   I run the kids to the golf course, training/gym and friends houses a lot of days during the week :shrug:  
Right, but that is a run and back right?  It isn't like you're spending a few hours at the golf course or the gym in the middle of the day are you?

 
If mom worked from home she likely wouldn't be able to take him those places anyway.  Or are you advocating that a 12 year old should have a dedicated parent/caregiver that takes them on adventures?  (I'm not saying you would be wrong to have that opinion, just trying to see if that is what yours is)
Now that I reread your post, yes it would be the same issue if she worked from home every day but she can at least drop him off places if possible. Is camp not an option? Yeah I know that #### is expensive. I send my son to camp 3 days a week and WFH once a week. The day I WFH my son is home all day playing video games and I HATE it but have no choice. At least thats only one day a week though. The 5th day my wife and I take alternating Fridays off to do things with him.

 
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Now that I reread your post, yes it would be the same issue if she worked from home every day but she can at least drop him off places if possible. Is camp not an option? Yeah I know that #### is expensive. I send my son to camp 3 days a week and WFH once a week. The day I WFH my son is home all day playing video games and I HATE it but have no choice. At least thats only one day a week though. The 5th day my wife and I take alternating Fridays off to do things with him.
Can I ask why?  Specifically why you hate it?  While I don't advocate for all video games all the time there is a lot to be said for video gaming.  Strategy, teamwork, kids talk to their friends.  Kids do tons of research on these games and how to beat certain bosses, what kinds of strategies to use, etc.

 
Right, but that is a run and back right?  It isn't like you're spending a few hours at the golf course or the gym in the middle of the day are you?
No, they are 12 and 13 so they are on their own at those places.  Kinda like the OP's kid would be I'm sure.   I do go to the gym by myself during the middle of the day though....

 
No, they are 12 and 13 so they are on their own at those places.  Kinda like the OP's kid would be I'm sure.   I do go to the gym by myself during the middle of the day though....
Some people would be much more concerned with their kid being at those types of places alone than at home alone.  Personally I think people bubblewrap their kids too much.  Kids should know how to get some place on the bus, or riding a train, etc.  They should be able to do some light cooking/heating up meals.  Kids like that are much better prepared for the real world imo.

 
Not sure what that means. Parents dont take there kids to these places in the summer? Im not saying they have to take them out every single day.
Just razzing you, gb.

I do have to say that my kids are a long way from 12 (youngest just turned 16), so my memory may be foggy.  However, based on my recollection, my wife was not taking our kids somewhere 2+ days a week during the summer.  I don't think our kids, when they were 12, were looking forward to hanging out at the beach with their mom.  Maybe time has distorted my recollection, but I think most of their summer was spent doing stuff they could do without supervision (hanging inside, hanging out with kids from the neighborhood, etc).

 
Some people would be much more concerned with their kid being at those types of places alone than at home alone.  Personally I think people bubblewrap their kids too much.  Kids should know how to get some place on the bus, or riding a train, etc.  They should be able to do some light cooking/heating up meals.  Kids like that are much better prepared for the real world imo.
12/13yo kids don't golf or workout alone, they are going to do it with a friend or don't do it basically.  I agree on the bubblewrap, I tell the kids to go ride there bikes and I have no clue where they go.   They have phone if I need them  (I don't even do the tracking thing most other parents do).  That said not sticking them on a city bus if I don't have too....

 
Can I ask why?  Specifically why you hate it?  While I don't advocate for all video games all the time there is a lot to be said for video gaming.  Strategy, teamwork, kids talk to their friends.  Kids do tons of research on these games and how to beat certain bosses, what kinds of strategies to use, etc.
8 hours of him screaming at the TV on Fortnite is annoying AF. I dont mind video games. I played them growing up and I still do. I dont mind him playing. I HATE Fortnite though.

 
Fortnite is a whole different ball game.
This is why I don't want him playing shooter games all the time.  He has a difficult enough time coping with the things going on in his life and being stressed from video games only exaggerates those difficulties. 

If he's playing Minecraft all day then whatever.  Unfortunately that's not what's going on.    

 
Captain Cranks said:
This is why I don't want him playing shooter games all the time.  He has a difficult enough time coping with the things going on in his life and being stressed from video games only exaggerates those difficulties. 

If he's playing Minecraft all day then whatever.  Unfortunately that's not what's going on.    
I've seen my youngest rage over Minecraft harder than any other game.

 
GStrot said:
People who want to be alone are doing things they don’t want others to see.  
It’s kind of sad if you think this way. Having alone time is a luxury to be appreciated. One of my daughters is an empath and needs time alone to recharge. To say that wanting to be alone is only for nefarious reasons is just weird. 

 
Worm said:
In the days of instant communication, I think 12 is a pretty good number. Old enough to take care of mostly anything they need food wise, etc., and old enough to take action with a call/text/etc if there was an emergency.
If the kid can hear his phone over the headphones full of Fortnite...  

 
Hmmm. May have to rethink me position on some of this. One of my son’s best friends (17) was home alone and invited a couple friends over to hang out at their pool. Not sure what happened, but he somehow hit the side / lip of the pool and ruptured his spleen and almost died. Currently in ICU and may need more surgery. 

So I definitely would change my opinion for homes with potentially major hazards. Not sure what those may be, but I would definitely want to know more where my teenage kids are going and who will be around. 

 
mozzy84 said:
12yo’s can babysit younger kids if they want in MN anyways.  I know I was watching my younger sister at age 10-12 for half the day.

It would be silly to pay a babysitter for a 12yo kid these days unless he’s a hot mess or something....
My 11 y/o daughter just finished a Safe Sitter class through a local church. Great investment to teach them basic skills/considerations. 

 
Hmmm. May have to rethink me position on some of this. One of my son’s best friends (17) was home alone and invited a couple friends over to hang out at their pool. Not sure what happened, but he somehow hit the side / lip of the pool and ruptured his spleen and almost died. Currently in ICU and may need more surgery. 

So I definitely would change my opinion for homes with potentially major hazards. Not sure what those may be, but I would definitely want to know more where my teenage kids are going and who will be around. 


Idk...accidents do happen. But if you can't leave a few 17 year olds alone with a pool, what exactly have you been doing as a parent? (Not YOU you, general you)

I mean those kids are a year or less from absolute and total freedom in college. I'm not advocating for unsupervised pool parties all summer but a few friends in a pool should be fine at that age. 

Now, with young teens, yeah the pool complicates matters. Absolutely. 

But 17...

 
I just learned that my ex is letting my son stay home by himself all day while she's at work.  Should I be upset?
I was left alone parts of the day at home when I was 13. I was not allowed to use the stove (I could heat up something in the microwave or use the toaster for my breakfast and that was it), answer the phone or answer the door if someone knocked unless it was a neighbor. I could get the mail after the mail person was out of sight. 12 is iffy but it depends how mature your son is at his age. Is he trustworthy that he wouldn't cook anything on the stove and other things? 

 
Hmmm. May have to rethink me position on some of this. One of my son’s best friends (17) was home alone and invited a couple friends over to hang out at their pool. Not sure what happened, but he somehow hit the side / lip of the pool and ruptured his spleen and almost died. Currently in ICU and may need more surgery. 

So I definitely would change my opinion for homes with potentially major hazards. Not sure what those may be, but I would definitely want to know more where my teenage kids are going and who will be around. 
That's far more a reflection of the kid than it is the age. Plenty of 12 year olds are more mature than that 17 year old. 

 
I'm literally within 5 minutes from her place and work from home, so he could be here instead.  However, he doesn't like being here because of my wife and her son (who are perfectly nice to him, but they're not "his family"), so apparently he's better served to be by himself as far as my ex is concerned. 

Also, he does have a chronic bleeding disorder that would require emergency medical attention if he were to accidentally hit his head or have a severe cut.   
If thats the case I say he should be with you. Is the Son of your Ex with him though and how old is he? if he's older and there with him I think it shouldn't be an issue as long as he knows if theres an issue right way to call you or 911

 
jvdesigns2002 said:
I'm not a parent--full disclosure.  With that said-- I would not leave any child home alone 3 days a week that is under high school age.  If I had a daughter- I wouldn't l wouldn't leave her home alone until she was 30.
Screw leaving the house. If I had a daughter she'd only be dating when I was dead

 

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