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Hmm...I don't think this is accurate. I saw a thread on another site about this. Care to provide a link? I think it was a "time zone" issue and conspiracy theorists ran with it.
Why would you have a controlled explosion after a terrorist attack?
They had suspicious packages and that's how they took care of it. It seems to have been the right decision.
OIC. Was thinking it was planned ahead of time and they went ahead with it.
Oh it will and has. I know it for a fact. But here is what else I know. They couldn't keep something like this a secret. It is too big. Too many leaks and too many people looking for their 15 these days. Further to what end? Give DHS more power is what I keep hearing. How much more do they need? They can already do what they want, when they want, and where they want. There would be no point.
Southie ain't what it used to be, mostly young professionals living there now
I'm glad I'm not the only one...this story is ruining my day, I cant stop thinking about it.
I guess to what end will depend on who is behind this. If it's some Alex Jones conspiracy nut, the crazies will lose their mind.
New York Post owned by news corp.timschochet said:
I have a young son too and after Sandy Hook I just wanted to go home and just hug him.
Lots of misinformation out there from all news agencies yesterday. Let's leave the Right vs. Left battle out of this thread. Thanks.
1. No other devices. Just the two that actually exploded.
A friend from church ran the race yesterday (and finished well before the explosions). He posted on FB an hour before the start about how the weather was clear and calm and about what a great day it was shaping up to be. But then, as you note, in an instant, everything changed for so many people ...
Only two devices. No talk about ball bearings. And cautioned about assuming anything based on interviews or searches.
Grain of salt and all that but the chief of trauma surgery at Mass General Dr. Valmahas stated that they pulled out very consistent sharp shrapnel (10-40 pieces often found) from victims. Intimated that these came from the bombs and not the surrounding environment.
Guy at Mass General seemed fairly certain there were both Nails and ball bearings. A reporter followed up with a how can you be sure question and he said "because of the consistency of the objects"
Three days. McVeigh was in custody on charges of driving without plates and illegal possession of firearm when he was identified.
Yeah, maybe even a edited screen shot. I can't find anything to validate that, my bad for bringing it up. I knew I had read it on Twitter yesterday, but it was in fact a few hours after the event. Are they admitting that there was another controlled explosion? I thought someone said that there were only 2 bombs. Although, I guess the controlled explosions could have been of objects that didn't actually turn out to be bombs, but were just suspicious items.
Thanks for this update, Hawks.
To be clear I am not saying there were no ball bearings. I was just relaying what the FBI guy said.
From what they are saying the charge wasn't shaped properly which caused a lot of the force to go vertical instead of horizontal. If it had went horizontal a lot more people would be dead and injured. It really looks like someone with no actual experience did this.
In the briefing, they said that they did a security sweep about an hour before the first runners crossed the line, so they got their window.
Yea, the first explosion, basically only one 70+ year old runner fell from the blast. Others turned or held their ears, but the blast itself only knocked over one person, and that may have been from disorientation, rather than force. It certainly appeared to blow more up than out to me from the video. Heck, the flags and that fence barely moved.
There are scant few details coming out, but those that are seem to be consistent with someone who hasn't done this sort of thing before and wasn't instructed by someone who has.
I'm going to take a wild guess and say that while a runner may have fallen down, the spectators standing right next to the bomb probably got injured or worse.
From the pics, though, the second bomb further down the street led to quite a fireball out into the street ...I suspect that's where much of the damage occurred.
Totally. I am not saying it didn't injure anybody. Nor am I downplaying what happened. I am just reiterating what others are saying, that the concussive blast itself was more vertical than horizontal, so the radius of that specific type of force was lesser than a bomb produced properly.
Yup. It appeared to me that the old man when he heard the bomb was frightened and twisted his leg. They were probably a little wobbly after running 26.2 miles.
Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.
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