Explosions at Boston Marathon (2 Viewers)

[JuniorNB]

So out of all the people in that hospital, they chose to question the Saudi man and search his apartment?

My understand is that he was acting very suspiciously. Seemed very nervous. Asking if anyone knew how many were killed, etc. I don't think he was tortured or waterboarded. Just questioned.

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

Both CNN and Fox folks were saying the same general thing - including O'Reilly. Using the word terrorism. I watched CNN all night and there was the same sentiment that you described over there as well. Questioning why Obama didn't refer to it as terrorism, etc.

 

[Henry Ford]

So out of all the people in that hospital, they chose to question the Saudi man and search his apartment?

My understand is that he was acting very suspiciously. Seemed very nervous. Asking if anyone knew how many were killed, etc. I don't think he was tortured or waterboarded. Just questioned.

Yeah, if I were Middle Eastern and I were on-site for a bombing in the United States, I'd be pretty ####### nervous, too.

 

[St. Louis Bob]

NBC Philly reporting suspicious package found on US FLight 1716, it is on the Logan Airport Tarmac. Also, LaGuardia Central Terminal evacuated due to suspicious package per Anthony De Rosa, Reuters.

ETA: Both have been given all clear, false alarm. I expect a lot of those in the near future.

I seem to remember this happening a lot after 9-11.

 

[NCCommish]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

I watched. What I can't remember is Bill O slamming Bush for doing the same thing after 911. I'm sure I just missed it though.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

Both CNN and Fox folks were saying the same general thing - including O'Reilly. Using the word terrorism. I watched CNN all night and there was the same sentiment that you described over there as well. Questioning why Obama didn't refer to it as terrorism, etc.

I can't remember which guest he was talking to, but when they said something about Obama not calling it terrorism right away, O'Reilly said point blankly, "I don't have a problem with that." I saw it live. But I did see a variety of peeps on both channels questioning it, though, like you said.

 

[pittstownkiller]

Sorry for any hippling I may be doing here: does anyone else find it incomprehensible that there are trash cans/mail boxes in the vicinity of crowds? After the '93 bombing at the WTC all the trash cans around there were replaced with explosive proof ones that focused the energy upwards; maybe that is why the first explosive did very little damage and the second was not contained as such? It is possible such devices are in place. What a horrible act.

 

[timschochet]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

The reason that I used the word "apparently" is that I did not see it, but heard about it. However, because I heard about it in several places I figured there was something to it.

And my original comment remains valid. I don't think this is the time to criticize the President. They do it on a daily basis; they can hold off one day. After 9/11, at least for a few days, there was very little criticism of Bush- that started weeks later. Events like these should unify us.

 

[JuniorNB]

So out of all the people in that hospital, they chose to question the Saudi man and search his apartment?

My understand is that he was acting very suspiciously. Seemed very nervous. Asking if anyone knew how many were killed, etc. I don't think he was tortured or waterboarded. Just questioned.

Yeah, if I were Middle Eastern and I were on-site for a bombing in the United States, I'd be pretty ####### nervous, too.

Unfortunately, that's the world we love in right now. Many Middle easterners have made no secret of their disdain for the US. And because of past events, we all have a mental picture of what a terrorist looks like. There is bound to be some profiling during an event like this. It's not fair, but it's totally understandable.

 

[glock]

Gonna take 24 hours as they will have to look through thousands of hours of media and search through metadata to try and find the face of death who did this. They should be able to identify the bomb making materials and make some calls to find out what stores these materials were bought in but the problem is, they could have been bought over time and in several different locations.

I do think they know now though if this was a bomb created through experience (overseas) or if this was just thrown together using the materials and some knowledge (book/internet). To me it's a lot harder catching a domestic terrorist but whoever did this went two for two and placed the packages in exactly the right places, so that might narrow the search grid. I think it may take a citizen turning a citizen in to catch whoever did it, bomb placement doesn't necessarily equal bomb making. In Iraq and Afghanistan it was rare that anyone actually connected to the bomb making did anything with placement and that made catching culprits almost impossible. The beauty of a roadside bomb is you put it there hours even days before you want it to blow up, then you sit and wait for the right moment. First thing the FBI needs to do is figure out when the bombs were placed and work their way out. These are really tough investigations because there is a ton of pressure and emotion attached.

From what they are saying the charge wasn't shaped properly which caused a lot of the force to go vertical instead of horizontal. If it had went horizontal a lot more people would be dead and injured. It really looks like someone with no actual experience did this.

Yea, the first explosion, basically only one 70+ year old runner fell from the blast. Others turned or held their ears, but the blast itself only knocked over one person, and that may have been from disorientation, rather than force. It certainly appeared to blow more up than out to me from the video. Heck, the flags and that fence barely moved.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say that while a runner may have fallen down, the spectators standing right next to the bomb probably got injured or worse.

Yup. It appeared to me that the old man when he heard the bomb was frightened and twisted his leg. They were probably a little wobbly after running 26.2 miles.

He went all jelly legs...

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

Both CNN and Fox folks were saying the same general thing - including O'Reilly. Using the word terrorism. I watched CNN all night and there was the same sentiment that you described over there as well. Questioning why Obama didn't refer to it as terrorism, etc.

Maybe Obama didn't call it terrorism because that is not a known fact yet, and he didn't want to jump to conclusions with a rush to judgement.

I actually like the way Obama is more through, taking the time to collect all the facts before issuing statements about terrorism.

 

[NCCommish]

Sorry for any hippling I may be doing here: does anyone else find it incomprehensible that there are trash cans/mail boxes in the vicinity of crowds? After the '93 bombing at the WTC all the trash cans around there were replaced with explosive proof ones that focused the energy upwards; maybe that is why the first explosive did very little damage and the second was not contained as such? It is possible such devices are in place. What a horrible act.

There were no bombs in trash cans according to the briefing earlier.

 

[Ilov80s]

NBC Philly reporting suspicious package found on US FLight 1716, it is on the Logan Airport Tarmac. Also, LaGuardia Central Terminal evacuated due to suspicious package per Anthony De Rosa, Reuters.

ETA: Both have been given all clear, false alarm. I expect a lot of those in the near future.

I seem to remember this happening a lot after 9-11.

The flurry of semi-news and rumors continues. Reports from suspicious package to people speaking Arabic on the plane caused passengers to complain and stop flight to it was just a some lighting that needed fixing.

 

[Novice2]

I thought this thread was suppose to be free of the political points.

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times. And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act. Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

The reason that I used the word "apparently" is that I did not see it, but heard about it. However, because I heard about it in several places I figured there was something to it. And my original comment remains valid. I don't think this is the time to criticize the President. They do it on a daily basis; they can hold off one day. After 9/11, at least for a few days, there was very little criticism of Bush- that started weeks later. Events like these should unify us.

you can't make this #### up. Hilarious. But come on now shut the #### up about petty bull#### in this thread.

 

[timschochet]

Sorry for any hippling I may be doing here: does anyone else find it incomprehensible that there are trash cans/mail boxes in the vicinity of crowds? After the '93 bombing at the WTC all the trash cans around there were replaced with explosive proof ones that focused the energy upwards; maybe that is why the first explosive did very little damage and the second was not contained as such? It is possible such devices are in place. What a horrible act.

It's a good point. There's no doubt going to be lots of changes to protect crowded areas in the future.

 

[Da Guru]

So out of all the people in that hospital, they chose to question the Saudi man and search his apartment?

My understand is that he was acting very suspiciously. Seemed very nervous. Asking if anyone knew how many were killed, etc. I don't think he was tortured or waterboarded. Just questioned.

Yeah, if I were Middle Eastern and I were on-site for a bombing in the United States, I'd be pretty ####### nervous, too.

Any Muslims there were probably fleeing the scene fast as possible,

 

[Reginald Cornsilks]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

Both CNN and Fox folks were saying the same general thing - including O'Reilly. Using the word terrorism. I watched CNN all night and there was the same sentiment that you described over there as well. Questioning why Obama didn't refer to it as terrorism, etc.

Maybe Obama didn't call it terrorism because that is not a known fact yet, and he didn't want to jump to conclusions with a rush to judgement.

I actually like the way Obama is more through, taking the time to collect all the facts before issuing statements about terrorism.

I had no problem with Obama's lack of use of the term. No problem at all.

Just pointing out to Timmy who "heard something somewhere" about something a political talking head said, that it was said by every news source out there last night.

 

[timschochet]

I thought this thread was suppose to be free of the political points.

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times. And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act. Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

The reason that I used the word "apparently" is that I did not see it, but heard about it. However, because I heard about it in several places I figured there was something to it. And my original comment remains valid. I don't think this is the time to criticize the President. They do it on a daily basis; they can hold off one day. After 9/11, at least for a few days, there was very little criticism of Bush- that started weeks later. Events like these should unify us.

you can't make this #### up. Hilarious.But come on now shut the #### up about petty bull#### in this thread.

Not sure what you find hilarious, or petty about what I wrote.

 

[Rayderr]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

I watched. What I can't remember is Bill O slamming Bush for doing the same thing after 911. I'm sure I just missed it though.

Maybe because Bush actually used the "T word" in the very first sentence and then 4 more times?

Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

The reason that I used the word "apparently" is that I did not see it, but heard about it. However, because I heard about it in several places I figured there was something to it.

And my original comment remains valid. I don't think this is the time to criticize the President. They do it on a daily basis; they can hold off one day. After 9/11, at least for a few days, there was very little criticism of Bush- that started weeks later. Events like these should unify us.

O'Reilly did not criticize the president. Saying he made a mistake by calling it a tragedy instead of a vile act was more of him expressing his anger about what happened than him criticizing the president. Overall, he was pleased with how Obama handled it yesterday, and said so several times.

Maybe you should talk to Chris Matthews, who blamed the right last night for domestic terrorism and said he hopes this story blows over quickly so we can get back to gun control, which he said is the real issue. What a POS that guy is.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Sorry for any hippling I may be doing here: does anyone else find it incomprehensible that there are trash cans/mail boxes in the vicinity of crowds? After the '93 bombing at the WTC all the trash cans around there were replaced with explosive proof ones that focused the energy upwards; maybe that is why the first explosive did very little damage and the second was not contained as such? It is possible such devices are in place. What a horrible act.

You don't want trashcans at an event where tens of thousands of people are going to gather? And unless I'm mistaken, mailboxes are anchored into the ground pretty well.

 

[glock]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

It was a vile act. AND a tragedy.

a disastrous event : calamity

 

[timschochet]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

Both CNN and Fox folks were saying the same general thing - including O'Reilly. Using the word terrorism. I watched CNN all night and there was the same sentiment that you described over there as well. Questioning why Obama didn't refer to it as terrorism, etc.

Maybe Obama didn't call it terrorism because that is not a known fact yet, and he didn't want to jump to conclusions with a rush to judgement.

I actually like the way Obama is more through, taking the time to collect all the facts before issuing statements about terrorism.

I had no problem with Obama's lack of use of the term. No problem at all.

Just pointing out to Timmy who "heard something somewhere" about something a political talking head said, that it was said by every news source out there last night.

I understand and it's a good point. I didn't personally hear O'Reilly, so perhaps I was unfair to him. I just wanted the criticism to stop for at least one day.

 

[NCCommish]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

I watched. What I can't remember is Bill O slamming Bush for doing the same thing after 911. I'm sure I just missed it though.

Maybe because Bush actually used the "T word" in the very first sentence and then 4 more times?

>Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts.

Actually during the first presser he called it a national tragedy in the first two sentences. He called it apparent terrorism after that.

 

[JuniorNB]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

The reason that I used the word "apparently" is that I did not see it, but heard about it. However, because I heard about it in several places I figured there was something to it.

And my original comment remains valid. I don't think this is the time to criticize the President. They do it on a daily basis; they can hold off one day. After 9/11, at least for a few days, there was very little criticism of Bush- that started weeks later. Events like these should unify us.

O'Reilly did not criticize the president. Saying he made a mistake by calling it a tragedy instead of a vile act was more of him expressing his anger about what happened than him criticizing the president. Overall, he was pleased with how Obama handled it yesterday, and said so several times.

Maybe you should talk to Chris Matthews, who blamed the right last night for domestic terrorism and said he hopes this story blows over quickly so we can get back to gun control, which he said is the real issue. What a POS that guy is.

Can we all just agree to put O'Reilly and Matthews in a rocket and blast them both into space for the next 40 years? They are both nothing more than TV shock jocks.

 

[Billy Bats]

From CBS news about the 20yo Saudi...

Miller said Tuesday on "CBS This Morning." "As everybody is standing in shock, three Boston PD detectives see this guy moving quickly out of the crowd. As they're watching him, he seems to be moving very deliberately away, which could be a very natural thing after a bombing. They stop him because he's covered with blood ... they think he may be injured ... they engage him, they start asking questions ... there are things about his responses that made them uncomfortable, so they arranged to get him to the hospital."He's somebody that they're really interested in."

 

[timschochet]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

The reason that I used the word "apparently" is that I did not see it, but heard about it. However, because I heard about it in several places I figured there was something to it.

And my original comment remains valid. I don't think this is the time to criticize the President. They do it on a daily basis; they can hold off one day. After 9/11, at least for a few days, there was very little criticism of Bush- that started weeks later. Events like these should unify us.

O'Reilly did not criticize the president. Saying he made a mistake by calling it a tragedy instead of a vile act was more of him expressing his anger about what happened than him criticizing the president. Overall, he was pleased with how Obama handled it yesterday, and said so several times.

Maybe you should talk to Chris Matthews, who blamed the right last night for domestic terrorism and said he hopes this story blows over quickly so we can get back to gun control, which he said is the real issue. What a POS that guy is.

I didn't watch Matthews. If he actually said that, then he should be reamed for it. I'm not a huge fan of his.

 

[Ilov80s]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

The reason that I used the word "apparently" is that I did not see it, but heard about it. However, because I heard about it in several places I figured there was something to it.

And my original comment remains valid. I don't think this is the time to criticize the President. They do it on a daily basis; they can hold off one day. After 9/11, at least for a few days, there was very little criticism of Bush- that started weeks later. Events like these should unify us.

O'Reilly did not criticize the president. Saying he made a mistake by calling it a tragedy instead of a vile act was more of him expressing his anger about what happened than him criticizing the president. Overall, he was pleased with how Obama handled it yesterday, and said so several times.

Maybe you should talk to Chris Matthews, who blamed the right last night for domestic terrorism and said he hopes this story blows over quickly so we can get back to gun control, which he said is the real issue. What a POS that guy is.

How about just stop watching and paying attention to what any of these attention whores say?

 

[RCon]

I understand and it's a good point. I didn't personally hear O'Reilly, so perhaps I was unfair to him. I just wanted the criticism to stop for at least one day.

Maybe if you stop criticizing for one day, others will follow?

 

[Hawks64]

I have purposely avoided the story and pictures of the 8 year old boy who was killed, hits way to close to home for me. I did stumble on his picture, looks very similar to my 7 year old with a missing front tooth and a new front tooth growing in, he was holding a sign in a classroom saying stop hurting people, PEACE. Just breaks my heart.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

I thought this thread was suppose to be free of the political points.

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times. And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act. Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

The reason that I used the word "apparently" is that I did not see it, but heard about it. However, because I heard about it in several places I figured there was something to it. And my original comment remains valid. I don't think this is the time to criticize the President. They do it on a daily basis; they can hold off one day. After 9/11, at least for a few days, there was very little criticism of Bush- that started weeks later. Events like these should unify us.

you can't make this #### up. Hilarious.But come on now shut the #### up about petty bull#### in this thread.

Not sure what you find hilarious, or petty about what I wrote.

It's funny because it is another example of you posting something you think you heard but didn't actually see if yourself.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

It was a vile act. AND a tragedy.

>a disastrous event : calamity

Agreed. I enjoy O'Reilly at times, but he can split hairs on wording way too much.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Sorry for any hippling I may be doing here: does anyone else find it incomprehensible that there are trash cans/mail boxes in the vicinity of crowds? After the '93 bombing at the WTC all the trash cans around there were replaced with explosive proof ones that focused the energy upwards; maybe that is why the first explosive did very little damage and the second was not contained as such? It is possible such devices are in place. What a horrible act.

You don't want trashcans at an event where tens of thousands of people are going to gather? And unless I'm mistaken, mailboxes are anchored into the ground pretty well.

Are we even sure they were in trash cans? Calling it incomprehensible is incomprehensible.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Good to see some people really grasp the important issues here- partisan bickering, media finger-pointing and debates about semantics!

 

[Rayderr]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

I watched. What I can't remember is Bill O slamming Bush for doing the same thing after 911. I'm sure I just missed it though.

Maybe because Bush actually used the "T word" in the very first sentence and then 4 more times?

>Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist

acts.

Actually during the first presser he called it a national tragedy in the first two sentences. He called it apparent terrorism after that.

Wrong again.

Today, we've had a national tragedy. Two airplanes have crashed into the World Trade Center in an apparent terrorist attack on our country.

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

Both CNN and Fox folks were saying the same general thing - including O'Reilly. Using the word terrorism. I watched CNN all night and there was the same sentiment that you described over there as well. Questioning why Obama didn't refer to it as terrorism, etc.

Maybe Obama didn't call it terrorism because that is not a known fact yet, and he didn't want to jump to conclusions with a rush to judgement.

I actually like the way Obama is more through, taking the time to collect all the facts before issuing statements about terrorism.

I had no problem with Obama's lack of use of the term. No problem at all.

Just pointing out to Timmy who "heard something somewhere" about something a political talking head said, that it was said by every news source out there last night.

I understand and it's a good point. I didn't personally hear O'Reilly, so perhaps I was unfair to him. I just wanted the criticism to stop for at least one day.

 

[timschochet]

So out of all the people in that hospital, they chose to question the Saudi man and search his apartment?

My understand is that he was acting very suspiciously. Seemed very nervous. Asking if anyone knew how many were killed, etc. I don't think he was tortured or waterboarded. Just questioned.

Yeah, if I were Middle Eastern and I were on-site for a bombing in the United States, I'd be pretty ####### nervous, too.

Unfortunately, that's the world we love in right now. Many Middle easterners have made no secret of their disdain for the US. And because of past events, we all have a mental picture of what a terrorist looks like. There is bound to be some profiling during an event like this. It's not fair, but it's totally understandable.

You're absolutely right. But what is preventable is a large, well-known news agency picking up on this and running with it. That is unforgivable, IMO.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Good to see some people really grasp the important issues here- partisan bickering, media finger-pointing and debates about semantics!

But someone didn't use the T word!!! You don't get it Tobias!!!!!!!!

 

[Mr.Pack]

Oooof. Just found out "the guy in the wheelchair" Is the younger brother of a guy I played football with in High School.

Damn. His injury was incredibly horrific ...has it been life-threatening?

Not sure. It was just posted on facebook.

Wow, so difficult to watch that. Poor guy just could not stop shaking.

:(

 

[ArbyMelt]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

The reason that I used the word "apparently" is that I did not see it, but heard about it. However, because I heard about it in several places I figured there was something to it.

And my original comment remains valid. I don't think this is the time to criticize the President. They do it on a daily basis; they can hold off one day. After 9/11, at least for a few days, there was very little criticism of Bush- that started weeks later. Events like these should unify us.

So you are criticizing anyone that jumps to a conclusions about this tragedy, but you just pull stuff out of your a$$ (i guess its ok because you used the word "apparently") and that is OK? good grief.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Good to see some people really grasp the important issues here- partisan bickering, media finger-pointing and debates about semantics!

I hear ya. I haven't really posted in this thread before today, because I really don't know what to say. What happened was just awful, and it makes me both sad and angry. :(

 

[Fla\/\/ed]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

The reason that I used the word "apparently" is that I did not see it, but heard about it. However, because I heard about it in several places I figured there was something to it.

And my original comment remains valid. I don't think this is the time to criticize the President. They do it on a daily basis; they can hold off one day. After 9/11, at least for a few days, there was very little criticism of Bush- that started weeks later. Events like these should unify us.

So you are criticizing anyone that jumps to a conclusions about this tragedy, but you just pull stuff out of your ### (i guess its ok because you used the word "apparently") and that is OK? good grief.

 

[5Rings]

Thoughts and prayers to everybody affected and America as a whole.

The press conference was pretty awesome this morning, I felt patriotic and all fired up hearing about all the agencies rallying together to kickass.

Stay strong Boston.

 

[HellToupee]

Good to see some people really grasp the important issues here- partisan bickering, media finger-pointing and debates about semantics!

 

[Billy Bats]

CBS News: Official tells CBS News the two Boston bombs were made to look like discarded property; unknown if bombs were in garbage cans

11:37am - 16 Apr 13

 

[timschochet]

Apparently Bill O'Reilly went on TV last night and lambasted Obama for calling this a "tragedy" rather than "terrorism".

Not true. He did not care about Obama not calling it terrorism; he said that several times.

And lambasted is a stupid way to put it. He only said, calmly, that it was not a tragedy, and that accidents like a storm wiping your family is a tragedy, and that yesterday was a vile act.

Let me guess: you didn't actual watch; you just read it on a left-leaning website or show, right?

The reason that I used the word "apparently" is that I did not see it, but heard about it. However, because I heard about it in several places I figured there was something to it.

And my original comment remains valid. I don't think this is the time to criticize the President. They do it on a daily basis; they can hold off one day. After 9/11, at least for a few days, there was very little criticism of Bush- that started weeks later. Events like these should unify us.

So you are criticizing anyone that jumps to a conclusions about this tragedy, but you just pull stuff out of your ### (i guess its ok because you used the word "apparently") and that is OK? good grief.

LOL. I made a short comment about O'Reilly and wished that this event would unify rather than divide us. I may have been inaccurate about O'Reilly, based on sources I have read and heard. Mea culpa. It's not a huge deal.

If you want to spend further time in this thread ripping me over this, then you, not me, represent the problem here.

 

[Rayderr]

Ok, we can all breathe easier now. Per the giant headline on cnn.com,

Obama calls bombings "act of terror"

 

[jon_mx]

Ok, we can all breathe easier now. Per the giant headline on cnn.com,

Obama calls bombings "act of terror"

His crack anti-Terrorism team comes through!

 

[timschochet]

As someone pointed out yesterday, terrorism specifically means having a political goal in mind. Oklahoma City was an act of terrorism; Newtown was not. We really don't know at this point if it is terrorism or not.

There is also, of course, the problem that if the President uses the word "terrorism" there will be a segment of the public who will immediately think "Muslim!". That's why I think it should be avoided. "Act of terror" is OK, I suppose.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Ok, we can all breathe easier now. Per the giant headline on cnn.com,

Obama calls bombings "act of terror"

His crack anti-Terrorism team comes through!

Can we have these two posters and Fla///]//////ed post in the MOP thread only?

TIA