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Explosions at Boston Marathon (2 Viewers)
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pittstownkiller
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Well it may not apply to this situation but removal of trash cans and mailboxes has been pretty common in securing a location; they even inspect manholes and weld the covers down, when the President's motorcade will take that route.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
The next time someone refers to peace activists as some kind of derogatory word that equates to coward, this is the guy to remember. One of the most courageous and amazing stories to come out of this so far.
HellToupee
Footballguy
I'm cool with that if you add in the tea party finger pointers as well
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Maybe Bush knew more about what happened that day than Obama knows about yesterday.
Hawks64
Footballguy
Doctor Detroit
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Pressure cookers were used in Mumbai train bombing and in Pakistan also but I'm not sure that is significant.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I loved everything you said until 'act of terror' vs 'terrorism'.
This is just going nuts with language.
If the president can't clarify that terrorism could be domestic or foreign, islamist or some other ideology from libertarianism, fascism, communism and anarchism to anti-federalism, then what the heck good is he.
Btw - I think he's worth plenty good, but he knows the difference and he should clarify for everyone rather than just taking every line from his political hacks who are afraid he will make a mis-step.
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Doctor Detroit
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Also they are saying they were not in trash cans but in backpacks. I guess pittstownkiller will want to outlaw backpacks now.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
CrossEyed
Footballguy
So the ball bearings report from yesterday was accurate.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Sammy3469
Footballguy
The problem is so much thought and discussion goes into such non-sense. That is what the media talks about. That is what is discussed behind closed doors at the White House. That is what is discussed on this board.
Hawks64
Footballguy
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Has anyone mentioned what happened at Times Square? What happened there.
This sounds similar to me.
Only difference is no one got suspicious in advance from smoke or other external pointers.
This sounds similar to me.
Only difference is no one got suspicious in advance from smoke or other external pointers.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Wayyyy too much doooshiness in here. Stay on point or GTFO.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Why would you guys discern a domestic vs. foreign terrorist in motive, re: pressure cookers? Are you talking the about the arcing military response to this?
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
That was a much larger bomb in a struck. Some station on TV showed an FBI staged explosion of a replica of the attempted Times Square bomb and it was much larger than what we saw in Boston.
Rayderr
Footballguy
Well, if this were an AQ plot, our military would get involved in eradicating AQ.
Doctor Detroit
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I think the answer he's looking for is that it will point the investigation in the proper direction. But you can google "pressure cooker bomb" and come up with some recipes. But if this bomb is similar to a bomb that went off in Hyderbad in 2009, that could be helpful.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
There's no question that Al Qaeda has provided instructions for building pressure cooker bombs in the past, and middle east violence has included pressure cooker bombs for some time.
It's certainly not a definitive source of the bombings by any stretch of the imagination.
pittstownkiller
Footballguy
Yes, that is exactly what I said. BTW, try to carry a back pack into a sporting event.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
I guess my point is, what difference does it make as to why?
What difference would it make if it was coordinated domestic terrorism or coordinated international terrorism? Or lone wolf style of either foreign or domestic?
What is the story here? The random violence of this situation? Or the fact that we could some how further attack Al Queda? Whats left to attack?
I guess my thinking is, we need to somehow start managing our collective reaction to this stuff, no matter how horrible, tragic and senseless it might be. A random nut that stabs someone in Times Square or a drunk driver that takes out a family of four doesn't exactly change the way we live our lives. Because the guy who left this might be brown or white, I don't think it should either.
And frankly, I think if its a "lone white nut" this story will be over by the end of the week. But if its a foreign national, we start deploying and I frankly don't quite know why other than to "not look like a puswah"
the moops
Footballguy
I carry a backpack into Twins games all the time.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I don't really get the distinction between terrorist groups people are trying to make.
Regardless of who it is I expect my government to attack that group with every resource available, and to the degree possible eliminate their ability to do something similar in the future.
Regardless of who it is I expect my government to attack that group with every resource available, and to the degree possible eliminate their ability to do something similar in the future.
glvsav37
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pittstownkiller
Footballguy
Is this your definition Tim? It would seem to me that the Klan terrorized minorities; I guess you could say theirs was a political statement but it doesn't seem that way to me.
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The Flying Elvis
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Agreed... I don't really care what Obama refers to the incident as. Calling it an "act of terror" or "terrorist attack" or whatever doesn't change what happened nor does it give any comfort to those affected. It was a brutal attack on my city, call it whatever you want.
Not going into Boston today because I just want to let things calm down but I'll be in tomorrow about a mile away from the attacks. I imagine it is going to be an odd feeling. I am already seeing an outpouring of responses from people today: the wait to donate blood at MGH is/was about 1 1/2 hr just to give medical info, seeing a few attempts to organize a marathon run this weekend, also a running of the last mile beginning at Kenmore.
Boston is seen at as a major city, or atleast we like to think of ourselves as one, but in reality it is pretty small and very insular. Everyone seems to know someone who was running or has a family member who is a nurse or was drinking at a nearby bar, there has been such a strong response, it's good to see.
pittstownkiller
Footballguy
Not in NYC, my friend.
Doctor Detroit
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I think given what we know now this was a carefully conducted bombing, it must have taken a good deal of planning and coordination to get the placement and timing just right. CNN saying the bomb/s had a timer so despite it not having the max impact, it was fairly intricate. Doesn't seem like your Daddy's Al Qaeda but it does seem to me that lone wolf or small cell acting independent of any command structure seems most likely. That they aren't caught yet makes me think the web is fairly small, no more than like three people. We'll see.
Bonzai
Footballguy
"1. Choose liberty over security.
2. See events like the Boston Marathon bombing by virtue of their rarity as evidence of our relative security, not as one more reason to feel afraid.
3. Understand that our relative security is guaranteed on the whole not by guards and guns, but by basic human psychology, which involves the remarkable nonviolence of the majority of human beings in ordinary circumstances. The exceptions to this rule, far from being minimized by repressive or violent acts, will only be multiplied by them.
4. In the name of both security and decency: Whatever the ideology of the perpetrators of a terrorist act right wing or left, Islamist or otherwise do not make one event an excuse to clumsily demonize a large swath of largely peaceable humanity: conservative or liberal, Muslim or other."
-Wes Alwan
2. See events like the Boston Marathon bombing by virtue of their rarity as evidence of our relative security, not as one more reason to feel afraid.
3. Understand that our relative security is guaranteed on the whole not by guards and guns, but by basic human psychology, which involves the remarkable nonviolence of the majority of human beings in ordinary circumstances. The exceptions to this rule, far from being minimized by repressive or violent acts, will only be multiplied by them.
4. In the name of both security and decency: Whatever the ideology of the perpetrators of a terrorist act right wing or left, Islamist or otherwise do not make one event an excuse to clumsily demonize a large swath of largely peaceable humanity: conservative or liberal, Muslim or other."
-Wes Alwan
McGarnicle
Footballguy
What a terrible tragedy. Do you guys have any thoughts on who may be responsible? Some speech by Obama wasn't it?
Doctor Detroit
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Every sporting event I've been to in the past three years allows backpacks. You want us to live in a bubble, it won't happen. Fear and terror prevail if we start removing our mailboxes.
Officer Pete Malloy
Footballguy
ATC1
Footballguy
belljr
Footballguy
now i know what nerd pissing matches look like
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NCCommish
Footballguy
That isn't the first sentence but who is counting. Perhaps you can try reading what you posted and tell me how I was wrong again?
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
That's kind of the point, I think. If this is a "lone white nut" story, the FBI will have the guy in handcuffs or a body bag in a relatively short period of time and people will feel slightly safer, whether that's reasonable or not. If it's not, then we've had a serious intelligence failure again, and we're going to see things shape up differently in that department. Plus, there's the question of "what can we possibly to do AQ that we aren't already" which is a pretty scary question.
People want to feel like this is an isolated incident. Whether that's true or not, finding out it's domestic and tied to a single person or very small group of people would help with that feeling.
Rayderr
Footballguy
That isn't the first sentence but who is counting. Perhaps you can try reading what you posted and tell me how I was wrong again?
You said you couldn't remember O'Reilly slamming Bush for not saying terrorism (or any variation) like he supposedly did last night about Obama. I pointed out that he did mention the "T word" several times in his speech that night. You came back and brought up the speech at the school, even though he said "t word" twice there. So I have no idea what you're trying to get at other than trying to score some cheap political points and failing badly. Now, please go elsewhere.
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