Explosions at Boston Marathon (1 Viewer)

[5 digit know nothing]

Mommy, Mommy, I'm held hostage!

 

[tjnc09]

The streets of Boston were pretty awesome last night. I'll upload a video in a bit. Nothing special but it was a cool atmosphere to be around. Was similar to like a celebration for a championship however weird that sounds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPcRyJ9iPPQ&sns=em

Sent from my iPhone

 

[Guest]

Double edged message to would be copycats. On the one hand, the solidarity an exemplary behavior of the citizens took much of the bite away and diluted anything they wished to inflict. But for someone who just wants attention, they can become a household name and cause hundreds of millions in economic damage with some homemade explosives. I expect we'll see an uptick in this kind of thing, even if its lone wolf crackpots who choose this path as an alternative to suicide.

Quick. Without cheating: what are these two kids' names?

I stand corrected.

 

[mr roboto]

I like this Ed Deveau guy (sp?).

 

[towney]

Any news about the condition of this guy?

Still in serious condition at Beth Israel Deaconess Hospital in Boston

 

[gump]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Boston police handled this so much better than the lapd's fiasco. No random people got shot up or anything.

This is true but now they are deciding if shutting down the whole city for the day for one dude was the best way to handle this. Seems Boston is out 300 mil for yesterday's shutdown. :dunno:

You care that innocent people had money taken from them? I guess people can change.

Much ado about nothing imo. This is akin to a gas boycott...it's a momentary dip, but has no impact on annual revenues.

 

[Sinn Fein]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

I'll be surprised if this guy gets the death penalty. Have a feeling that this will be painted as him blindly following his brother, his age will be a factor, any information he can share on any other connections, etc.

 

[Apple Jack]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

Why?

 

[gump]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

Why?

Apparently she's the root of the extremism.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

Why?

Apparently she's the root of the extremism.

What are you basing this on?

 

[gump]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

Why?

Apparently she's the root of the extremism.

What are you basing this on?

Fox News just said she became a conspiracy nut after 9-11.

 

[Mile High]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

Why?

Apparently she's the root of the extremism.

What are you basing this on?

Yeah how would anyone know if that was true, since one son is dead and the other is in serious condition.

 

[Billy Bats]

I know this is an extreme case, and tough cases can make the law challenging, but it's mind-boggling that anyone would want to declare this person an enemy combatant. Essentially, you're saying if a member of the FBI wants to, you can be held for an indefinite amount of time without a trial or due process or the opportunity to contact anyone. Period. It would literally allow any member of the FBI to legally kidnap any American citizen. A federal agent could detain his ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend because he thinks he's a ####. You might think "well this case is different, this guy is a terrorist." Well, what makes him a terrorist? The FBI thinks he's a terrorist. Are they right? In this case, yes. But the FBI doesn't need anyone to rubber stamp the decision to label him a terrorist to label him an enemy combatant and ignore due process. Now if you have a ton of faith in the FBI's discretion, this isn't an issue. If you think the federal government needs to have its power checked -- which, I thought, was the core principle of every conservative movement -- then the idea that a US citizen could ever be labeled as an enemy combatant and held without any due process should be considered repugnant.

Just wondering here, what gives you the impression that any field agent can now designate anyone they want as an enemy combatant? I would think it came from someone higher up than even Meuller. In wars I thought it was only determined by the general or the president.

 

[Nipsey]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

I'll be surprised if this guy gets the death penalty.Have a feeling that this will be painted as him blindly following his brother, his age will be a factor, any information he can share on any other connections, etc.

I'd be shocked if he didn't get the needle.

 

[Mile High]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

Why?

Apparently she's the root of the extremism.

What are you basing this on?

Fox News just said she became a conspiracy nut after 9-11.

My mother is a nut about things I don't agree with her about.

 

[Steed]

People are really commending a huge effort by Mass State Troopers, Boston PD, and FBI for capturing a couple scumbags? One of them a 19 year old not even smart enough to cover his face and both dumb enough to hang around only a couple miles away from the incident?

We have really low standards for our government these days.

 

[KCitons]

Boston police handled this so much better than the lapd's fiasco. No random people got shot up or anything.

This is true but now they are deciding if shutting down the whole city for the day for one dude was the best way to handle this. Seems Boston is out 300 mil for yesterday's shutdown. :dunno:

You care that innocent people had money taken from them? I guess people can change.

Much ado about nothing imo. This is akin to a gas boycott...it's a momentary dip, but has no impact on annual revenues.

I don't think its a big deal. But, think about it this way. A 300 lb slob only has so many days in his life to down a large pizza with extra cheese. If you force him to stay in his house and eat cheetos out of the sofa cushions, he'is not going to go out the next day and eat 2 large pizzas. Just not enough time left in his life for this to balance out.

 

[KCitons]

People are really commending a huge effort by Mass State Troopers, Boston PD, and FBI for capturing a couple scumbags? One of them a 19 year old not even smart enough to cover his face and both dumb enough to hang around only a couple miles away from the incident?

We have really low standards for our government these days.

Aim High is the Air Forces motto, not the FBI's

 

[Fennis]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

I'll be surprised if this guy gets the death penalty.Have a feeling that this will be painted as him blindly following his brother, his age will be a factor, any information he can share on any other connections, etc.

I'd be shocked if he didn't get the needle.

yeah, there's no chance he wont get the death penalty.

 

[Billy Bats]

People are really commending a huge effort by Mass State Troopers, Boston PD, and FBI for capturing a couple scumbags? One of them a 19 year old not even smart enough to cover his face and both dumb enough to hang around only a couple miles away from the incident?

We have really low standards for our government these days.

Aim High is the Air Forces motto, not the FBI's

I disagree, if this isn't aiming high, not sure what is...http://weknowgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/fbi-jumping-over-fence-gif.gif

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

I'll be surprised if this guy gets the death penalty.Have a feeling that this will be painted as him blindly following his brother, his age will be a factor, any information he can share on any other connections, etc.

I'd be shocked if he didn't get the needle.

yeah, there's no chance he wont get the death penalty.

Eric Rudolph is still alive and he was responsible for multiple bombings.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I know this is an extreme case, and tough cases can make the law challenging, but it's mind-boggling that anyone would want to declare this person an enemy combatant. Essentially, you're saying if a member of the FBI wants to, you can be held for an indefinite amount of time without a trial or due process or the opportunity to contact anyone. Period. It would literally allow any member of the FBI to legally kidnap any American citizen. A federal agent could detain his ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend because he thinks he's a ####. You might think "well this case is different, this guy is a terrorist." Well, what makes him a terrorist? The FBI thinks he's a terrorist. Are they right? In this case, yes. But the FBI doesn't need anyone to rubber stamp the decision to label him a terrorist to label him an enemy combatant and ignore due process. Now if you have a ton of faith in the FBI's discretion, this isn't an issue. If you think the federal government needs to have its power checked -- which, I thought, was the core principle of every conservative movement -- then the idea that a US citizen could ever be labeled as an enemy combatant and held without any due process should be considered repugnant.

Just wondering here, what gives you the impression that any field agent can now designate anyone they want as an enemy combatant? I would think it came from someone higher up than even Meuller. In wars I thought it was only determined by the general or the president.

Field agent tells his superior that he believes XYZ is a terrorist and enemy combatant. Superior tells whomever he needs to tell, and that's it.

You're right in that there would be some check, but it's all within the federal government. The public would be in the dark and the "suspect" would be kept out of court. Again, if you trust the federal government to act appropriately with unchecked authority, it's not an issue.

In my view, it would be absurd to consider any American citizen arrested in America to be denied his constitutional due process rights. While Obama has had his shares of mistakes, his decision not to use the enemy combatant label like Bush is at least one positive, IMO.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Double edged message to would be copycats. On the one hand, the solidarity an exemplary behavior of the citizens took much of the bite away and diluted anything they wished to inflict. But for someone who just wants attention, they can become a household name and cause hundreds of millions in economic damage with some homemade explosives. I expect we'll see an uptick in this kind of thing, even if its lone wolf crackpots who choose this path as an alternative to suicide.

But what about the Waco connection, you whacko?

Sitting on the couch. News breaks of massive explosion near Waco. Triggers memory from 20 years ago that Branch Davidian Compound burned on Patriots Day. Posted. It's actually pretty reasonable. Identity of Islamic terrorists was not public. There's usually some gripe or motive and it seemed as good a theory as any. More information broke and it became less so.A Google search after I posted revealed that quite a few mainstream sources speculated along the same lines.But good to see you're just as hateful as always.

No. No it's not.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

I'll be surprised if this guy gets the death penalty.Have a feeling that this will be painted as him blindly following his brother, his age will be a factor, any information he can share on any other connections, etc.

I'd be shocked if he didn't get the needle.

yeah, there's no chance he wont get the death penalty.

Eric Rudolph is still alive and he was responsible for multiple bombings.

Rudolph went the plea bargain route. I'm on the side of suspect #1 being sentenced to life, but I don't know if that changes if this kid decides to be defiant.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

People are really commending a huge effort by Mass State Troopers, Boston PD, and FBI for capturing a couple scumbags? One of them a 19 year old not even smart enough to cover his face and both dumb enough to hang around only a couple miles away from the incident?

We have really low standards for our government these days.

You left out the part where they were throwing ####ing bombs at the cops.

 

[Fennis]

Make the mom sit in the front row for the execution.

I'll be surprised if this guy gets the death penalty.Have a feeling that this will be painted as him blindly following his brother, his age will be a factor, any information he can share on any other connections, etc.

I'd be shocked if he didn't get the needle.

yeah, there's no chance he wont get the death penalty.

Eric Rudolph is still alive and he was responsible for multiple bombings.

Eric Rudolph's crime and man hunt wasn't shown non stop on the Internet.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

Can we not engage this TPW loon? It's just feeds his bizarre persecution fetish and clogs up the thread.

Poor babies. I'm so sorry you guys get butthurt when somebody busts the little groupthink bubble you've created for yourselves here. Reality doesn't suffer fools gladly. Deal with it.

Is TPW Robbie Cooper?

Could be. They both like saying things like "butthurt" and "I'm just telling the truth".

 

[Rayderr]

People are really commending a huge effort by Mass State Troopers, Boston PD, and FBI for capturing a couple scumbags? One of them a 19 year old not even smart enough to cover his face and both dumb enough to hang around only a couple miles away from the incident?

We have really low standards for our government these days.

Aim High is the Air Forces motto, not the FBI's

Which probably explains why the pilots keep shooting above the targets' heads.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Can we not engage this TPW loon? It's just feeds his bizarre persecution fetish and clogs up the thread.

Poor babies. I'm so sorry you guys get butthurt when somebody busts the little groupthink bubble you've created for yourselves here. Reality doesn't suffer fools gladly. Deal with it.

Is TPW Robbie Cooper?

Could be. They both like saying things like "butthurt" and "I'm just telling the truth".

I wonder if he got the sleeve yet.

 

[Porkchop Express]

People are really commending a huge effort by Mass State Troopers, Boston PD, and FBI for capturing a couple scumbags? One of them a 19 year old not even smart enough to cover his face and both dumb enough to hang around only a couple miles away from the incident?

We have really low standards for our government these days.

Tell me about your years as a law enforcement officer so you can make that judgement.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

So who takes custody of him? Will he go through the court system? Will there be a trial? Or does he go to Guantanamo?

 

[DrJ]

I could be a fair and impartial juror. I seriously haven't payed attention to one bit of this.

 

[Kal El]

So who takes custody of him? Will he go through the court system? Will there be a trial? Or does he go to Guantanamo?

My guess is he'll go through the courts like McVeigh did, but your guess is as good as mine.

 

[gump]

So the crazy mom thinks they were framed and that her oldest was 'a leader' and that 'the FBI is afraid of him'.

The only sane family member is the uncle....who clearly saw what his sister was creating.

 

[Fennis]

BREAKING NEWS ON CNN:

Suspect hiding in boat. May be related to Boston Bombings

 

[Fennis]

So the crazy mom thinks they were framed and that her oldest was 'a leader' and that 'the FBI is afraid of him'.The only sane family member is the uncle....who clearly saw what his sister was creating.

The Doctor exclaimed, I can't operate on this suspect, he's my nephew!

Yet he wasn't the brother of the suspect's mother. How could that be?

 

[Rohn Jambo]

"That boat's his baby. He takes care of it like you wouldn't believe. And they told him it's all shot up. He's going to be heartbroken."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/20/us/boston-boat-spotter/index.html

I think Joe should call this guy and offer to build him a new Bryant Boat.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

So the crazy mom thinks they were framed and that her oldest was 'a leader' and that 'the FBI is afraid of him'.The only sane family member is the uncle....who clearly saw what his sister was creating.

The Doctor exclaimed, I can't operate on this suspect, he's my nephew! Yet he wasn't the brother of the suspect's mother. How could that be?

Because, according to CNN, the nephew has not been shot yet.

 

[Fennis]

I bet that dude will be able to sell his boat for a bunch of money (as long as he doesnt clean it up). There are some odd collectors out there.

 

[southeastjerome]

Wow, what a moving tribute by the sox. Complete with Ortiz getting the mic at the end and saying "this is our ***hin city!"

 

[southeastjerome]

Best F bomb ever by Ortiz.

 

[southeastjerome]

That sox pregame ceremony was the best I've ever seen in any sport. Capped off perfectly by David Ortiz "This is our ***hing city" (no H). Crowd went nuts. Wow.

 

[Jackstraw]

Dang Papi. My jaw is still on the ground. Is it possible to find something repugnant and the most awesome thing you ever saw at the same time?

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

I know this is an extreme case, and tough cases can make the law challenging, but it's mind-boggling that anyone would want to declare this person an enemy combatant. Essentially, you're saying if a member of the FBI wants to, you can be held for an indefinite amount of time without a trial or due process or the opportunity to contact anyone. Period. It would literally allow any member of the FBI to legally kidnap any American citizen. A federal agent could detain his ex-girlfriend's new boyfriend because he thinks he's a ####. You might think "well this case is different, this guy is a terrorist." Well, what makes him a terrorist? The FBI thinks he's a terrorist. Are they right? In this case, yes. But the FBI doesn't need anyone to rubber stamp the decision to label him a terrorist to label him an enemy combatant and ignore due process. Now if you have a ton of faith in the FBI's discretion, this isn't an issue. If you think the federal government needs to have its power checked -- which, I thought, was the core principle of every conservative movement -- then the idea that a US citizen could ever be labeled as an enemy combatant and held without any due process should be considered repugnant.

I agree with these points- in principle.But if terrorism continues to occur on our soil, these protections are going to be tossed and the public won't care. England has been dealing with domestic terrorism for years, and they've got the Official Secrets Act which allows their government to bypass civil liberties, and the public approves. Personally I don't approve, but what if it's the only way to effectively fight terror?Besides, it's not without precedence even here. Didn't our greatest President, at the height of the Civil War, simply ignore Habeas Corpus?

Cowering in fear and surrendering even more civil liberties is an effective way to fight terrorism? Terrorism that that has, at least on our soil been in a constant and steady decline for decades? Is the populace of any other developed nation kept in such a constant state of fear?

 

[Nipsey]

Scanner blowing up: white male/hispanic female held by Shaw's Market security, possible stolen diapers/formula

 

[jon_mx]

Scanner blowing up: white male/hispanic female held by Shaw's Market security, possible stolen diapers/formula

Probably trying to grow some homemade fertilizer for a stink bomb.

 

[jon_mx]

Uncle Ruslan on CNN right now

 

[Plorfu]

Scanner blowing up: white male/hispanic female held by Shaw's Market security, possible stolen diapers/formula

I hope they didn't steal all the batteries, too.

 

[Apple Jack]

So who takes custody of him? Will he go through the court system? Will there be a trial? Or does he go to Guantanamo?

I don't know, but I think this will all be over soon and then we can let reddit and CNN do the work if ironing out the details.