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lolThat last article said the cops shot 'flash bobs' or something like that at him in the boat.
lolThat last article said the cops shot 'flash bobs' or something like that at him in the boat.
http://activeden.net/user/Flash-BoblolThat last article said the cops shot 'flash bobs' or something like that at him in the boat.
http://bearmythology.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/kevin-smith-shirtless.jpglolThat last article said the cops shot 'flash bobs' or something like that at him in the boat.
SLB is a hero!lolThat last article said the cops shot 'flash bobs' or something like that at him in the boat.
It would be interesting to see how the charges will be filed because there were two suspects involved.It was reported the campus police did not responding to a call but was ambushed while he was sitting in his patrol car in the usual location. How could they tell which brother fired the 5 shots?Seems vindictive. I think they wouldn't want to do anything to push him away from opening up to the interrogator(s).Waiting to see if he will be charged for running over his own brother.
don't have to. If I go withsomeone to rob a store and they kill the clerk I'm still getting a murder charge.It would be interesting to see how the charges will be filed because there were two suspects involved.It was reported the campus police did not responding to a call but was ambushed while he was sitting in his patrol car in the usual location. How could they tell which brother fired the 5 shots?Seems vindictive. I think they wouldn't want to do anything to push him away from opening up to the interrogator(s).Waiting to see if he will be charged for running over his own brother.
Reminds me of Dennis Hopper in SpeedThere was nothing repugnant about that, fit it perfectly and capped of a GREAT ceremony.Dang Papi. My jaw is still on the ground. Is it possible to find something repugnant and the most awesome thing you ever saw at the same time?
They would still have to link him to the scene.don't have to. If I go withsomeone to rob a store and they kill the clerk I'm still getting a murder charge.It would be interesting to see how the charges will be filed because there were two suspects involved.It was reported the campus police did not responding to a call but was ambushed while he was sitting in his patrol car in the usual location. How could they tell which brother fired the 5 shots?Seems vindictive. I think they wouldn't want to do anything to push him away from opening up to the interrogator(s).Waiting to see if he will be charged for running over his own brother.
If only this site was run by a boat manufacturer....Donations for his boat? The FBI and PD shot it up cornering the most wanted suspect at the time. I think insurance and the town can cover this one?Not covering it would be a bigger PR disaster.
Who went where with who to rob a store?don't have to. If I go withsomeone to rob a store and they kill the clerk I'm still getting a murder charge.It would be interesting to see how the charges will be filed because there were two suspects involved.It was reported the campus police did not responding to a call but was ambushed while he was sitting in his patrol car in the usual location. How could they tell which brother fired the 5 shots?Seems vindictive. I think they wouldn't want to do anything to push him away from opening up to the interrogator(s).Waiting to see if he will be charged for running over his own brother.
http://bearmythology.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/kevin-smith-shirtless.jpglolThat last article said the cops shot 'flash bobs' or something like that at him in the boat.

The fact that you regard the laws you describe as taking away from liberty demonstrates that you have a very different concept of that word than I do.This is a patently ridiculous statement, unless you qualify it by saying "liberty being totally lost incrementally.... Liberty is continually being lost as more and more laws are passed. People are not free to drive drunk on the highways, although there was a time when they were; people are not free to drive at whatever speed they choose, although there was a time they were; people are not free to spank their children in public, although there was a time they were; people are not free to drive without car insurance, although there was a time when they were...All these laws have been passed for what we believe are good and cogent reasons, but to say they do not circumscribe liberty is fatuous.I am not in favor of making this guy an enemy combatant, but this slippery slope stuff is as nonsensical here as it is in the gun control debate. This is NO historical example of liberty being lost incrementally, over time, through well meaning action or laws. It doesn't work that way, ever.
shut the f uck up, timI am not in favor of making this guy an enemy combatant, but this slippery slope stuff is as nonsensical here as it is in the gun control debate. This is NO historical example of liberty being lost incrementally, over time, through well meaning action or laws. It doesn't work that way, ever.
Your freedom to not wear a seatbelt being taken away is not a slippery slope in which your freedom of speech comes next. Your complaint represents EXACTLY the sort of absurdity that people are concerned about these days.Seat belt laws in our state is a good example of incrementalism. They only passed because it was promised that they would never being able to pull anyone over for a seat belt violation. It could only be an offense ticketed if they pulled you over for something else and they law barely passed. Now I have driven through check points where all they are looking for are seat belts. The government thrives on incrementalism policies which chip away at our freedoms.
Thanks for the intelligent response.shut the f uck up, timI am not in favor of making this guy an enemy combatant, but this slippery slope stuff is as nonsensical here as it is in the gun control debate. This is NO historical example of liberty being lost incrementally, over time, through well meaning action or laws. It doesn't work that way, ever.
You really have no problem with setting up roadblocks to check seatbelts? It is not a major issue, but a simple illustration how innocent well intentioned laws eventually turn into bigger animals which do restrict rights in questionable ways.Your freedom to not wear a seatbelt being taken away is not a slippery slope in which your freedom of speech comes next. Your complaint represents EXACTLY the sort of absurdity that people are concerned about these days.Seat belt laws in our state is a good example of incrementalism. They only passed because it was promised that they would never being able to pull anyone over for a seat belt violation. It could only be an offense ticketed if they pulled you over for something else and they law barely passed. Now I have driven through check points where all they are looking for are seat belts. The government thrives on incrementalism policies which chip away at our freedoms.
No I have no problem with it, other than it may be a stupid use of taxpayer dollars. What exactly are you afraid of?You really have no problem with setting up roadblocks to check seatbelts? It is not a major issue, but a simple illustration how innocent well intentioned laws eventually turn into bigger animals which do restrict rights in questionable ways.Your freedom to not wear a seatbelt being taken away is not a slippery slope in which your freedom of speech comes next. Your complaint represents EXACTLY the sort of absurdity that people are concerned about these days.Seat belt laws in our state is a good example of incrementalism. They only passed because it was promised that they would never being able to pull anyone over for a seat belt violation. It could only be an offense ticketed if they pulled you over for something else and they law barely passed. Now I have driven through check points where all they are looking for are seat belts. The government thrives on incrementalism policies which chip away at our freedoms.
I try be bounded by spelling.Glad to see tim working his mojo in this thread. His pompousity knows no bounds.
Coming from someone who is extremely paranoid of tea partiers, that is rich.This growing paranoia from both the Left and the Right in this country is really starting to concern me. Even if we do make this guy an enemy combatant, that doesn't mean we're removing all Miranda rights from everyone. Even if we were to register all guns, that would never lead to confiscation. Some of you guys have a very unhealthy fear of dictatorship right around the corner- stop worrying, it's never gonna happen.
I'm not paranoid of them or anyone. I hope. I disagree with most of their positions.Coming from someone who is extremely paranoid of tea partiers, that is rich.This growing paranoia from both the Left and the Right in this country is really starting to concern me. Even if we do make this guy an enemy combatant, that doesn't mean we're removing all Miranda rights from everyone. Even if we were to register all guns, that would never lead to confiscation. Some of you guys have a very unhealthy fear of dictatorship right around the corner- stop worrying, it's never gonna happen.![]()
I like to bust them on you but I agree with all thisThis growing paranoia from both the Left and the Right in this country is really starting to concern me. Even if we do make this guy an enemy combatant, that doesn't mean we're removing all Miranda rights from everyone. Even if we were to register all guns, that would never lead to confiscation. Some of you guys have a very unhealthy fear of dictatorship right around the corner- stop worrying, it's never gonna happen.
Except that this is completely false.Seat belt laws in our state is a good example of incrementalism. They only passed because it was promised that they would never being able to pull anyone over for a seat belt violation.
After reviewing the last 4 posters in this thread, it's time to shut it down.
on behalf of tim,jon , AJ & myself let me say go stick it. Stick to football , dummySeriously, you're the guy who was criticizing Rand Paul for insisting that the government shouldn't be allowed to unilaterally murder American citizens. You're the one that's off-base here.Thanks for the intelligent response.shut the f uck up, timI am not in favor of making this guy an enemy combatant, but this slippery slope stuff is as nonsensical here as it is in the gun control debate. This is NO historical example of liberty being lost incrementally, over time, through well meaning action or laws. It doesn't work that way, ever.
Got it; as long as the guy is guilty, it really doesn't matter how he is treated. You would have to be a fool to not see how the government constantly tries to push the boundaries of their given power; attaching satellite monitoring devices to a "suspects" car, is but one example.This growing paranoia from both the Left and the Right in this country is really starting to concern me. Even if we do make this guy an enemy combatant, that doesn't mean we're removing all Miranda rights from everyone. Even if we were to register all guns, that would never lead to confiscation. Some of you guys have a very unhealthy fear of dictatorship right around the corner- stop worrying, it's never gonna happen.
I agree that fears about impending dictatorship are unfounded, but only because of the good folks at the ACLU and NRA who insist on fighting every infringement on our rights tooth and nail. If it was up to people like you, we'd be serfs.This growing paranoia from both the Left and the Right in this country is really starting to concern me. Even if we do make this guy an enemy combatant, that doesn't mean we're removing all Miranda rights from everyone. Even if we were to register all guns, that would never lead to confiscation. Some of you guys have a very unhealthy fear of dictatorship right around the corner- stop worrying, it's never gonna happen.
Except that this is completely false.Seat belt laws in our state is a good example of incrementalism. They only passed because it was promised that they would never being able to pull anyone over for a seat belt violation.
Seriously, you're the guy who was criticizing Rand Paul for insisting that the government shouldn't be allowed to unilaterally murder American citizens. You're the one that's off-base here.Thanks for the intelligent response.shut the f uck up, timI am not in favor of making this guy an enemy combatant, but this slippery slope stuff is as nonsensical here as it is in the gun control debate. This is NO historical example of liberty being lost incrementally, over time, through well meaning action or laws. It doesn't work that way, ever.
that said, it's the know-it-all'ism that really drives me nuts about the guyThat's not why I criticized him. I criticized him for claiming that it would be a likely or inevitable possibility- in other words, for using his bully pulpit to play into the growing paranoia.Seriously, you're the guy who was criticizing Rand Paul for insisting that the government shouldn't be allowed to unilaterally murder American citizens. You're the one that's off-base here.Thanks for the intelligent response.shut the f uck up, timI am not in favor of making this guy an enemy combatant, but this slippery slope stuff is as nonsensical here as it is in the gun control debate. This is NO historical example of liberty being lost incrementally, over time, through well meaning action or laws. It doesn't work that way, ever.
Initially, in NY (where the law originated), you could not be pulled over for this offense; I have received a fine for a seatbelt offense that the judge would not dismiss though it was the only reason I was in court. Am I missing something about your reply?Except that this is completely false.Seat belt laws in our state is a good example of incrementalism. They only passed because it was promised that they would never being able to pull anyone over for a seat belt violation.
Ive asked in other threads several times for an example of this, and no ones ever been able to provide one. It's not me being a know it all; common sense should tell you that dictatorship doesn't come about that way.Seriously, you're the guy who was criticizing Rand Paul for insisting that the government shouldn't be allowed to unilaterally murder American citizens. You're the one that's off-base here.Thanks for the intelligent response.shut the f uck up, timI am not in favor of making this guy an enemy combatant, but this slippery slope stuff is as nonsensical here as it is in the gun control debate. This is NO historical example of liberty being lost incrementally, over time, through well meaning action or laws. It doesn't work that way, ever.that said, it's the know-it-all'ism that really drives me nuts about the guy "This is NO historical example of liberty being lost incrementally, over time, through well meaning action or laws. It doesn't work that way, ever." i'm assuming you've reviewed as much of history as you have explored black barbershops
... in other words, for using his bully pulpit to play into the growing paranoia.
Oh my. Poster called "FootballDummy" has just served it up. Big time. It's time to SHUT IT DOWN! Dude's got swagger. A little concerned that he doesn't know to type out single digit numbers as words, but whatever. Not a big deal. What's important is the BAM! he brings. I can't be the only one thinking that I'd like to see some of his work.After reviewing the last 4 posters in this thread, it's time to shut it down.
I can't speak for any state other than Maryland, but mandatory seat belt laws have gone from "only a secondary offense" in the mid'80s to a primary offense today.Initially, in NY (where the law originated), you could not be pulled over for this offense; I have received a fine for a seatbelt offense that the judge would not dismiss though it was the only reason I was in court. Am I missing something about your reply?Except that this is completely false.Seat belt laws in our state is a good example of incrementalism. They only passed because it was promised that they would never being able to pull anyone over for a seat belt violation.
Serfs how? Because We might have background checks for guns? Because you can't order an extra large soft drink? Because you have to wear a seatbelt while driving? These laws are going to make us all slaves? Seriously, you're better than this.I agree that fears about impending dictatorship are unfounded, but only because of the good folks at the ACLU and NRA who insist on fighting every infringement on our rights tooth and nail. If it was up to people like you, we'd be serfs.This growing paranoia from both the Left and the Right in this country is really starting to concern me. Even if we do make this guy an enemy combatant, that doesn't mean we're removing all Miranda rights from everyone. Even if we were to register all guns, that would never lead to confiscation. Some of you guys have a very unhealthy fear of dictatorship right around the corner- stop worrying, it's never gonna happen.
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Same thing being done with using cell phone without a hands free device. Initially was passed as only a secondary offense, now it can be primary and you can be pulled over for just that offense.Initially, in NY (where the law originated), you could not be pulled over for this offense; I have received a fine for a seatbelt offense that the judge would not dismiss though it was the only reason I was in court. Am I missing something about your reply?Except that this is completely false.Seat belt laws in our state is a good example of incrementalism. They only passed because it was promised that they would never being able to pull anyone over for a seat belt violation.