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Explosions at Boston Marathon (2 Viewers)

A couple of questions I havent seen answered.

How did the bombs get denotnated? Was it a fuse or cell phone or whatever? If cell phone how exactly does that work?

Where did their guns come from?

 
This comment from Bob Beckle is a little surprising:

Fox News liberal Bob Beckel had some policy ideas about Muslims on Tuesday's edition of "The Five." Beckel and his co-hosts were talking about the Boston bombing suspects, who are Muslim. The general consensus seemed to be that, by probing into their lives and their possible motives for the attacks, members of the media were avoiding the main issue. "You find the big argument, which is Muslim supremacy, isn't that all you need?" Greg Gutfeld asked. "Why do you have to delve into their psychosis?" "We know that In the Muslim communities around the world, they do not like us," Beckel replied. "They recruit people from poor areas and turn them into terrorists." He didn't say how this thesis was connected to the Tsarnaev brothers, who came legally with their family when they were 9 and 16. "I think we really have to consider...that we're going to have to cut off Muslim students from coming to this country for some period of time so that we can at least absorb what we've got, look at what we've got and decide whether some of the people here should be sent back home or sent to prison," he continued. At the end of the show, Beckel issued a clarification of sorts, explaining that, perhaps, young Muslims currently in the US could stay, but that new restrictions should definitely be considered, along with restrictions on Chinese students--who, he said, are sent to America only so that they can learn computers, go back home and "hack us."
What an idiot. We need to ban Mexicans too. Duh.

 
This comment from Bob Beckle is a little surprising:

Fox News liberal Bob Beckel had some policy ideas about Muslims on Tuesday's edition of "The Five." Beckel and his co-hosts were talking about the Boston bombing suspects, who are Muslim. The general consensus seemed to be that, by probing into their lives and their possible motives for the attacks, members of the media were avoiding the main issue. "You find the big argument, which is Muslim supremacy, isn't that all you need?" Greg Gutfeld asked. "Why do you have to delve into their psychosis?" "We know that In the Muslim communities around the world, they do not like us," Beckel replied. "They recruit people from poor areas and turn them into terrorists." He didn't say how this thesis was connected to the Tsarnaev brothers, who came legally with their family when they were 9 and 16. "I think we really have to consider...that we're going to have to cut off Muslim students from coming to this country for some period of time so that we can at least absorb what we've got, look at what we've got and decide whether some of the people here should be sent back home or sent to prison," he continued. At the end of the show, Beckel issued a clarification of sorts, explaining that, perhaps, young Muslims currently in the US could stay, but that new restrictions should definitely be considered, along with restrictions on Chinese students--who, he said, are sent to America only so that they can learn computers, go back home and "hack us."
What an idiot. We need to ban Mexicans too. Duh.
"Fox News Liberal" : :lmao:

-QG

 
Reddit apologizes for the witch hunt, especially to the family of Sunil Tripathi.

After some reflection we want to share our thoughts about the reddit activity during the recent crisis in Boston. We all need to look at what happened and make sure that in the future we do everything we can to help and not hinder crisis situations.

During the tragedy and the aftermath, people found many different avenues to help on reddit. The vast majority of these activities were positive. They provided a way for people to stay informed, as well as a place to just discuss, cope, and try to make sense of what happened. Primarily, reddit served as a great clearinghouse for information. Continual ongoing updates by users such as /u/JpDeathBlade, /u/cedargrove, /u/NeonRedSharpie. /u/_supernovasky_ made reddit one of the best sources for staying up-to-date about the recent events. On top of that, redditors did everything from donating to relief funds, having pizzas delivered to area police and hospitals, to arranging for people with dogs to bring them to a park so people could escape a bit with some cute animal therapy, and even arranging housing and transportaion for out-of-towners who were stranded in Boston because of the bombing. We are all incredibly proud that the reddit platform enabled this help.

However, though started with noble intentions, some of the activity on reddit fueled online witch hunts and dangerous speculation which spiraled into very negative consequences for innocent parties. The reddit staff and the millions of people on reddit around the world deeply regret that this happened. We have apologized privately to the family of missing college student Sunil Tripathi, as have various users and moderators. We want to take this opportunity to apologize publicly for the pain they have had to endure. We hope that this painful event will be channeled into something positive and the increased awareness will lead to Sunil's quick and safe return home. We encourage everyone to join and show your support to the Tripathi family and their search.

A few years ago, reddit enacted a policy to not allow personal information on the site. This was because “let’s find out who this is” events frequently result in witch hunts, often incorrectly identifying innocent suspects and disrupting or ruining their lives. We hoped that the crowdsourced search for new information would not spark exactly this type of witch hunt. We were wrong. The search for the bombers bore less resemblance to the types of vindictive internet witch hunts our no-personal-information rule was originally written for, but the outcome was no different.

This crisis has reminded all of us of the fragility of people’s lives and the importance of our communities, online as well as offline. These communities and lives are now interconnected in an unprecedented way. Especially when the stakes are high we must strive to show good judgement and solidarity. One of the greatest strengths of decentralized, self-organizing groups is the ability to quickly incorporate feedback and adapt. reddit was born in the Boston area (Medford, MA to be precise). After this week, which showed the best and worst of reddit's potential, we hope that Boston will also be where reddit learns to be sensitive of its own power.


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Traffic during the Boston Bombing & Aftermath
The overall peak in traffic was when reports came in that the second suspect was captured. Google Analytics reports that there were about 272,000 users on the site with 85,000 in the /r/news update thread alone. This was the only time in reddit's history other than the Obama AMA, that a thread beat the frontpage in the ratings.
 
If the guys had better disguises I am sure it would have taken a lot longer.
What if they could have worn some sort of white man's mask that made them look caucasian, that might have bought some time.
:lmao:

HFS.

You literally can't find people more Caucasian than these two. They were born in the Caucasus to ethnic Caucasians.
This is gonna blow his mind.
:lmao:

 
Reddit apologizes for the witch hunt, especially to the family of Sunil Tripathi.

After some reflection we want to share our thoughts about the reddit activity during the recent crisis in Boston. We all need to look at what happened and make sure that in the future we do everything we can to help and not hinder crisis situations.

During the tragedy and the aftermath, people found many different avenues to help on reddit. The vast majority of these activities were positive. They provided a way for people to stay informed, as well as a place to just discuss, cope, and try to make sense of what happened. Primarily, reddit served as a great clearinghouse for information. Continual ongoing updates by users such as /u/JpDeathBlade, /u/cedargrove, /u/NeonRedSharpie. /u/_supernovasky_ made reddit one of the best sources for staying up-to-date about the recent events. On top of that, redditors did everything from donating to relief funds, having pizzas delivered to area police and hospitals, to arranging for people with dogs to bring them to a park so people could escape a bit with some cute animal therapy, and even arranging housing and transportaion for out-of-towners who were stranded in Boston because of the bombing. We are all incredibly proud that the reddit platform enabled this help.

However, though started with noble intentions, some of the activity on reddit fueled online witch hunts and dangerous speculation which spiraled into very negative consequences for innocent parties. The reddit staff and the millions of people on reddit around the world deeply regret that this happened. We have apologized privately to the family of missing college student Sunil Tripathi, as have various users and moderators. We want to take this opportunity to apologize publicly for the pain they have had to endure. We hope that this painful event will be channeled into something positive and the increased awareness will lead to Sunil's quick and safe return home. We encourage everyone to join and show your support to the Tripathi family and their search.

A few years ago, reddit enacted a policy to not allow personal information on the site. This was because “let’s find out who this is” events frequently result in witch hunts, often incorrectly identifying innocent suspects and disrupting or ruining their lives. We hoped that the crowdsourced search for new information would not spark exactly this type of witch hunt. We were wrong. The search for the bombers bore less resemblance to the types of vindictive internet witch hunts our no-personal-information rule was originally written for, but the outcome was no different.

This crisis has reminded all of us of the fragility of people’s lives and the importance of our communities, online as well as offline. These communities and lives are now interconnected in an unprecedented way. Especially when the stakes are high we must strive to show good judgement and solidarity. One of the greatest strengths of decentralized, self-organizing groups is the ability to quickly incorporate feedback and adapt. reddit was born in the Boston area (Medford, MA to be precise). After this week, which showed the best and worst of reddit's potential, we hope that Boston will also be where reddit learns to be sensitive of its own power.


--
Traffic during the Boston Bombing & Aftermath
The overall peak in traffic was when reports came in that the second suspect was captured. Google Analytics reports that there were about 272,000 users on the site with 85,000 in the /r/news update thread alone. This was the only time in reddit's history other than the Obama AMA, that a thread beat the frontpage in the ratings.
:hey: :drive:

 
People still think this was some sleeper cell activated? /
Doesn't look that way right now ... but I wouldn't call that a closed question, necessarily.

Thought question: how many people constitute a cell? Maybe it can be considered a two-person cell, for what that's worth.

 
If the guys had better disguises I am sure it would have taken a lot longer.
What if they could have worn some sort of white man's mask that made them look caucasian, that might have bought some time.
:lmao:

HFS.

You literally can't find people more Caucasian than these two. They were born in the Caucasus to ethnic Caucasians.
Welcome is America, Mr. Ford. Our Indians are not from India and our Caucasians are not from the Caucasus.
Thank you, Mr. Borat.

 
I don't have time to read 172 pages of this thread to see if this has been mentioned, so I apologize in advance if it has. Is anybody else wondering why many have been so generous with kudos to law enforcement's handling of this tragedy? Seems to me that they've made a LOT of mistakes:

1. Ignoring red flags about the fanatacism of the brothers.

2. Allowing amateurish "watch-list" extremists to plant multiple IEDs at major public event.

3. Not catching them for days in spite of strong photographic evidence and allowing MIT officer's murder and endangering carjack victim.

4. Allowing white hat to escape the chase scene in Watertown.

5. Unable to find him all day in such an obvious hiding place and endangering the life of the home/boat owner who found him.

 
I don't have time to read 172 pages of this thread to see if this has been mentioned, so I apologize in advance if it has. Is anybody else wondering why many have been so generous with kudos to law enforcement's handling of this tragedy? Seems to me that they've made a LOT of mistakes: 1. Ignoring red flags about the fanatacism of the brothers.2. Allowing amateurish "watch-list" extremists to plant multiple IEDs at major public event.3. Not catching them for days in spite of strong photographic evidence and allowing MIT officer's murder and endangering carjack victim.4. Allowing white hat to escape the chase scene in Watertown.5. Unable to find him all day in such an obvious hiding place and endangering the life of the home/boat owner who found him.
Not sure anyone ever said it was a flawless effort. These terroristic acts aren't done one certain way with one certain text book on how to handle them. All in all, four days to kill one of them and capture the other is pretty damn good.
 
If the guys had better disguises I am sure it would have taken a lot longer.
What if they could have worn some sort of white man's mask that made them look caucasian, that might have bought some time.
:lmao:

HFS.

You literally can't find people more Caucasian than these two. They were born in the Caucasus to ethnic Caucasians.
This is gonna blow his mind.
:lmao:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 
Was this posted yet?

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/23/17877288-boston-suspect-we-learned-how-to-make-bombs-from-inspire-magazine?lite

The surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon attack has told investigators that he and his brother got instructions on building bombs from an online magazine published by al Qaeda, federal law enforcement officials told NBC News.


Follow @NBCNewsUS
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev told investigators that the brothers read the instructions in Inspire, an online, English-language magazine that terror monitoring groups say al Qaeda began publishing in 2010.
 
I don't know if that was posted before, but I think that just pretty much confirms what people have assumed

 
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A couple of questions I havent seen answered.

How did the bombs get denotnated? Was it a fuse or cell phone or whatever? If cell phone how exactly does that work?
No one really answered the bolded for you: they were detonated by a remote-control system similar to those used by high-end R/C cars and planes. In fact, my understanding is that the detonation systems were, in fact, rigged from R/C car parts.

 
I don't have time to read 172 pages of this thread to see if this has been mentioned, so I apologize in advance if it has. Is anybody else wondering why many have been so generous with kudos to law enforcement's handling of this tragedy? Seems to me that they've made a LOT of mistakes:

1. Ignoring red flags about the fanatacism of the brothers.

2. Allowing amateurish "watch-list" extremists to plant multiple IEDs at major public event.

3. Not catching them for days in spite of strong photographic evidence and allowing MIT officer's murder and endangering carjack victim.

4. Allowing white hat to escape the chase scene in Watertown.

5. Unable to find him all day in such an obvious hiding place and endangering the life of the home/boat owner who found him.
1. This is a true concern. Earlier I thought about it, and likened it to this - kickers in the NFL shouldn't miss extra points. Coaches will say it is inexcusable to miss one. But misses happen. This was a miss. A miss only makes sense when grouped with all of the hits though... If the FBIs success rate is high enough than I think you have to say it is adequate. I do not expect 100% is reasonable, but neither is 90%. It should be looked at, but since 9-11 I think the FBI has a pretty good track record at shutting these things down.

2. This is essentially #1. I don't see how you can turn the city into a military zone with checkpoints. Disagree with you here.

3. Hard to say on this one. I don't think the photographic evidence is strong (certainly not enough to convict on its own), but it is decent. I feel certain they had their best people on it, but clearly needed help from the public. Given the amount of bombs the kids had, I think they could have done more damage by prolonging the investigation.

4. Disagree... It was local Watertown cops responding initially. They did their best (and did well), but the kids were detonating bombs and homemade grenades. Police had to be concerned more explosives could be coming. It was a delicate situation. They also were under orders (I bet) to take them alive if at all possible, so had to handle it delicately. He got away, but didn't get far.

5. This area he was in is *very* congested. You know how people always seem to find what they are looking for in the last place they look? Obviously should have checked that place first! There were hundreds of places to hide I am sure. They took a best guess at a perimeter, the kid happened to be just outside of it.

The older brother had essentially a suicide vest strapped on to him. Do you want to be the cop checking under porches, etc for him? You think you might be checking in a slow and careful manner? Pretty easy for you (or any of us) to judge from the safety of our keyboard.

I think your only valid point is #1, but it is also the most complicated one.

 
Was this posted yet?

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/23/17877288-boston-suspect-we-learned-how-to-make-bombs-from-inspire-magazine?lite

The surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon attack has told investigators that he and his brother got instructions on building bombs from an online magazine published by al Qaeda, federal law enforcement officials told NBC News.

Follow @NBCNewsUS

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev told investigators that the brothers read the instructions in Inspire, an online, English-language magazine that terror monitoring groups say al Qaeda began publishing in 2010.
Get ready to hear the phrase "supported by al Qaeda" about a million times on Fox News.
 
It's baffling that these two clowns didn't have an exit strategy. The kid had his car in the shop. It appears neither one had a job. They had to rob somebody to get a car and ATM money. They had no money and no plan. These guys appear to not be very smart yet somehow figured out how to build several bombs. Maybe that was the easy part. But how can two people this stupid do that much damage?

 
It's baffling that these two clowns didn't have an exit strategy. The kid had his car in the shop. It appears neither one had a job. They had to rob somebody to get a car and ATM money. They had no money and no plan. These guys appear to not be very smart yet somehow figured out how to build several bombs. Maybe that was the easy part. But how can two people this stupid do that much damage?
When there's a will, there's a way.

 
It's baffling that these two clowns didn't have an exit strategy. The kid had his car in the shop. It appears neither one had a job. They had to rob somebody to get a car and ATM money. They had no money and no plan. These guys appear to not be very smart yet somehow figured out how to build several bombs. Maybe that was the easy part. But how can two people this stupid do that much damage?
They didn't want to escape. They wanted to keep setting off bombs and terrorize the country.
 
It's baffling that these two clowns didn't have an exit strategy. The kid had his car in the shop. It appears neither one had a job. They had to rob somebody to get a car and ATM money. They had no money and no plan. These guys appear to not be very smart yet somehow figured out how to build several bombs. Maybe that was the easy part. But how can two people this stupid do that much damage?
Overconfidence. They didn't think they'd get picked out of the crowd as being responsible.

 
It's baffling that these two clowns didn't have an exit strategy. The kid had his car in the shop. It appears neither one had a job. They had to rob somebody to get a car and ATM money. They had no money and no plan. These guys appear to not be very smart yet somehow figured out how to build several bombs. Maybe that was the easy part. But how can two people this stupid do that much damage?
When you think about it, what was the exit strategy of the Columbine, Virginia Tech or Sandy Hook kids? The only difference here is that after the initial terror attack, these two brothers were able to commit another act a couple of days later.

Crazy is crazy, sane people will never be able to figure it out.

 
It's baffling that these two clowns didn't have an exit strategy. The kid had his car in the shop. It appears neither one had a job. They had to rob somebody to get a car and ATM money. They had no money and no plan. These guys appear to not be very smart yet somehow figured out how to build several bombs. Maybe that was the easy part. But how can two people this stupid do that much damage?
When you think about it, what was the exit strategy of the Columbine, Virginia Tech or Sandy Hook kids? The only difference here is that after the initial terror attack, these two brothers were able to commit another act a couple of days later.

Crazy is crazy, sane people will never be able to figure it out.
They tried to get away with it though. They went back to their lives and acted as if they did nothing. That was never the plan with the other examples you listed.

 
It's baffling that these two clowns didn't have an exit strategy. The kid had his car in the shop. It appears neither one had a job. They had to rob somebody to get a car and ATM money. They had no money and no plan. These guys appear to not be very smart yet somehow figured out how to build several bombs. Maybe that was the easy part. But how can two people this stupid do that much damage?
When you think about it, what was the exit strategy of the Columbine, Virginia Tech or Sandy Hook kids? The only difference here is that after the initial terror attack, these two brothers were able to commit another act a couple of days later.

Crazy is crazy, sane people will never be able to figure it out.
They tried to get away with it though. They went back to their lives and acted as if they did nothing. That was never the plan with the other examples you listed.
Exactly. And where did they get their money? It appears the older brother's wife had a job. Did she support him? How did these guys pay for bomb making material, let alone living expenses? Did they have some off the books, cash only job, deal drugs, etc? I believe these guys did it. It just baffles me how they did it, given they both appear to be complete losers as characterized by Uncle Ruslan. The younger brother was also reportedly failing many of his college classes according to the NYTimes. He had a small $2500 scholarship from the city but that might cover books and one class. Who was paying for his school and living expenses? His out of country parents appear to be broke too. It's difficult to believe they acted alone, even though that appears to be true at this point. It's just very troubling that two people like this were able to do that much damage.

 
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It's baffling that these two clowns didn't have an exit strategy. The kid had his car in the shop. It appears neither one had a job. They had to rob somebody to get a car and ATM money. They had no money and no plan. These guys appear to not be very smart yet somehow figured out how to build several bombs. Maybe that was the easy part. But how can two people this stupid do that much damage?
When you think about it, what was the exit strategy of the Columbine, Virginia Tech or Sandy Hook kids? The only difference here is that after the initial terror attack, these two brothers were able to commit another act a couple of days later.

Crazy is crazy, sane people will never be able to figure it out.
They tried to get away with it though. They went back to their lives and acted as if they did nothing. That was never the plan with the other examples you listed.
True, but my question was what was the exit strategy of the others? If you know you are going to die sooner or later, maybe the last hour rampage was planned all along. Who knows, these two may have been armed with guns and bombs the entire time after the bombings. Just waiting for the end to come.

 
It's baffling that these two clowns didn't have an exit strategy. The kid had his car in the shop. It appears neither one had a job. They had to rob somebody to get a car and ATM money. They had no money and no plan. These guys appear to not be very smart yet somehow figured out how to build several bombs. Maybe that was the easy part. But how can two people this stupid do that much damage?
When you think about it, what was the exit strategy of the Columbine, Virginia Tech or Sandy Hook kids? The only difference here is that after the initial terror attack, these two brothers were able to commit another act a couple of days later.

Crazy is crazy, sane people will never be able to figure it out.
They tried to get away with it though. They went back to their lives and acted as if they did nothing. That was never the plan with the other examples you listed.
Exactly. And where did they get their money? It appears the older brother's wife had a job. Did she support him? How did these guys pay for bomb making material, let alone living expenses? Did they have some off the books, cash only job, deal drugs, etc? I believe these guys did it. It just baffles me how they did it, given they both appear to be complete losers as characterized by Uncle Ruslan. The younger brother was also reportedly failing many of his college classes according to the NYTimes. He had a small $2500 scholarship from the city but that might cover books and one class. Who was paying for his school and living expenses? His out of country parents appear to be broke too. It's difficult to believe they acted alone, even though that appears to be true at this point. It's just very troubling that two people like this were able to do that much damage.
And the Mercedes that was in the shop? (although there was no mention about what year the car was)

 
It's baffling that these two clowns didn't have an exit strategy. The kid had his car in the shop. It appears neither one had a job. They had to rob somebody to get a car and ATM money. They had no money and no plan. These guys appear to not be very smart yet somehow figured out how to build several bombs. Maybe that was the easy part. But how can two people this stupid do that much damage?
When you think about it, what was the exit strategy of the Columbine, Virginia Tech or Sandy Hook kids? The only difference here is that after the initial terror attack, these two brothers were able to commit another act a couple of days later.

Crazy is crazy, sane people will never be able to figure it out.
They tried to get away with it though. They went back to their lives and acted as if they did nothing. That was never the plan with the other examples you listed.
True, but my question was what was the exit strategy of the others? If you know you are going to die sooner or later, maybe the last hour rampage was planned all along. Who knows, these two may have been armed with guns and bombs the entire time after the bombings. Just waiting for the end to come.
I don't think va tech or newtown had the wherewithal to even have an exit strategy or than to shoot as many people as possible. Columbine was a bit different but I don't think they had an exit strategy other than mass mayhem. These boston guys actually thought they wouldn't get caught. Their exit strategy was to just go back home and act like nothing happened. They strike me as more dumb than crazy. They watched too many online terror vids and Jason Bourne-type movies. I'd bet anything that moron in Boston is wishing he could go back in time 9 days. 9 days ago he was a weed smoking, babe banging college kid. What was the problem?

 
It's baffling that these two clowns didn't have an exit strategy. The kid had his car in the shop. It appears neither one had a job. They had to rob somebody to get a car and ATM money. They had no money and no plan. These guys appear to not be very smart yet somehow figured out how to build several bombs. Maybe that was the easy part. But how can two people this stupid do that much damage?
When you think about it, what was the exit strategy of the Columbine, Virginia Tech or Sandy Hook kids? The only difference here is that after the initial terror attack, these two brothers were able to commit another act a couple of days later.

Crazy is crazy, sane people will never be able to figure it out.
They tried to get away with it though. They went back to their lives and acted as if they did nothing. That was never the plan with the other examples you listed.
True, but my question was what was the exit strategy of the others? If you know you are going to die sooner or later, maybe the last hour rampage was planned all along. Who knows, these two may have been armed with guns and bombs the entire time after the bombings. Just waiting for the end to come.
I don't think va tech or newtown had the wherewithal to even have an exit strategy or than to shoot as many people as possible. Columbine was a bit different but I don't think they had an exit strategy other than mass mayhem. These boston guys actually thought they wouldn't get caught. Their exit strategy was to just go back home and act like nothing happened. They strike me as more dumb than crazy. They watched too many online terror vids and Jason Bourne-type movies. I'd bet anything that moron in Boston is wishing he could go back in time 9 days. 9 days ago he was a weed smoking, babe banging college kid. What was the problem?
Oops, religious extremism.

 
Janet Napolitano saying today at the hearing that they knew he went to Russia but didn't get notification that he returned.

 
Has anyone mentioned the name Tamerlan and what a strange choice this was for a name by the father?

historically known as Tamerlane
Timur envisioned the restoration of the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan.[13] As a means of legitimating his conquests, Timur relied on Islamic symbols and language, referring to himself as the Sword of Islam and patronizing educational and religious institutions. He converted nearly all the Borjigin leaders to Islam during his lifetime.[14] His armies were inclusively multi-ethnic. During his lifetime Timur emerged as the most powerful ruler in the Muslim world after defeating the Mamluks of Egypt and Syria, the emerging Ottoman Empire and the declining Sultanate of Delhi. Timur had also decisively defeated the Christian Knights Hospitaller at Smyrna, styling himself a Ghazi.[15] By the end of his reign Timur had also gained complete control over all the remnants of the Chagatai Khanate, Ilkhanate, Golden Horde and even attempted to restore the Yuan dynasty.[citation needed]

Timur's armies were feared throughout Asia, Africa, and Europe,[16] sizable parts of which were laid to ruin by his campaigns.[17] Scholars estimate that his military campaigns caused the deaths of 17 million people, amounting to about 5% of the world population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamerlaine

 
Has anyone mentioned the name Tamerlan and what a strange choice this was for a name by the father?

historically known as Tamerlane
>Timur envisioned the restoration of the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan.[13] As a means of legitimating his conquests, Timur relied on Islamic symbols and language, referring to himself as the Sword of Islam and patronizing educational and religious institutions. He converted nearly all the Borjigin leaders to Islam during his lifetime.[14] His armies were inclusively multi-ethnic. During his lifetime Timur emerged as the most powerful ruler in the Muslim world after defeating the Mamluks of Egypt and Syria, the emerging Ottoman Empire and the declining Sultanate of Delhi. Timur had also decisively defeated the Christian Knights Hospitaller at Smyrna, styling himself a Ghazi.[15] By the end of his reign Timur had also gained complete control over all the remnants of the Chagatai Khanate, Ilkhanate, Golden Horde and even attempted to restore the Yuan dynasty.[citation needed]

Timur's armies were feared throughout Asia, Africa, and Europe,[16] sizable parts of which were laid to ruin by his campaigns.[17] Scholars estimate that his military campaigns caused the deaths of 17 million people, amounting to about 5% of the world population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamerlaine
This isn't common knowledge?

 
Has anyone mentioned the name Tamerlan and what a strange choice this was for a name by the father?

historically known as Tamerlane
>Timur envisioned the restoration of the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan.[13] As a means of legitimating his conquests, Timur relied on Islamic symbols and language, referring to himself as the Sword of Islam and patronizing educational and religious institutions. He converted nearly all the Borjigin leaders to Islam during his lifetime.[14] His armies were inclusively multi-ethnic. During his lifetime Timur emerged as the most powerful ruler in the Muslim world after defeating the Mamluks of Egypt and Syria, the emerging Ottoman Empire and the declining Sultanate of Delhi. Timur had also decisively defeated the Christian Knights Hospitaller at Smyrna, styling himself a Ghazi.[15] By the end of his reign Timur had also gained complete control over all the remnants of the Chagatai Khanate, Ilkhanate, Golden Horde and even attempted to restore the Yuan dynasty.[citation needed]

Timur's armies were feared throughout Asia, Africa, and Europe,[16] sizable parts of which were laid to ruin by his campaigns.[17] Scholars estimate that his military campaigns caused the deaths of 17 million people, amounting to about 5% of the world population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamerlaine
Knowing nothing of the Tsarnaevs' motives, and little about Chechens, the American media tore into Wikipedia and came back with stereotypes. The Tsarnaevs were stripped of their 21st century American life and became symbols of a distant land, forever frozen in time. Journalist Eliza Shapiro proclaimed that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was "named after a brutal warlord", despite the fact that Tamerlan, or Timur, is an ordinary first name in the Caucasus and Central Asia. Her claim is equivalent to saying a child named Nicholas must be named in honour of ruthless Russian tsar Nicholas I - an irony apparently lost on New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof, who made a similar denouncement on Twitter (to his credit, Kristof quickly retracted the comment).
http://m.aljazeera.com/story/2013421145859380504

 
Has anyone mentioned the name Tamerlan and what a strange choice this was for a name by the father?

historically known as Tamerlane
>Timur envisioned the restoration of the Mongol Empire of Genghis Khan.[13] As a means of legitimating his conquests, Timur relied on Islamic symbols and language, referring to himself as the Sword of Islam and patronizing educational and religious institutions. He converted nearly all the Borjigin leaders to Islam during his lifetime.[14] His armies were inclusively multi-ethnic. During his lifetime Timur emerged as the most powerful ruler in the Muslim world after defeating the Mamluks of Egypt and Syria, the emerging Ottoman Empire and the declining Sultanate of Delhi. Timur had also decisively defeated the Christian Knights Hospitaller at Smyrna, styling himself a Ghazi.[15] By the end of his reign Timur had also gained complete control over all the remnants of the Chagatai Khanate, Ilkhanate, Golden Horde and even attempted to restore the Yuan dynasty.[citation needed]

Timur's armies were feared throughout Asia, Africa, and Europe,[16] sizable parts of which were laid to ruin by his campaigns.[17] Scholars estimate that his military campaigns caused the deaths of 17 million people, amounting to about 5% of the world population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamerlaine
People in the US name their kids after Robert E Lee and you think its weird some dude in Kyrgyzstan chose a name for his son that kind of shared with a dude from the 1300's?

 

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