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Explosions at Boston Marathon (1 Viewer)

Oh wait, it was Tamerlan Tsarnaev that posted bail. They told him he was free to go, just don't leave the state of Mass.

He has yet to move.

 
A little disappointed in The Onion.

Sure, there's his current physical state, but the main reason he isn't a flight risk is because, even when healthy, he can't find his way out of Boston.

 
Turns out Tamerlane was a big fan of Truthers and Infowars. Go figure. As Deadspin points out a site dedicated to insisting there are no terrorists, but only governments who kill their citizens to erode civil liberties somehow managed to help incite a terrorist attack.

Is Infowars a false-flag website designed to collect fans like Tamerlan Tsarnaev to discredit Infowars?
Tamerlan took an interest in Infowars, a conspiracy theory website. Khozhugov said Tamerlan was interested in finding a copy of the book "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion," the classic anti-Semitic hoax, first published in Russia in 1903, that claims a Jewish plot to take over the world.http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20130423/US-Boston-Marathon-Radicalization/ I thought Alex Jones was its everybody but the Jews conspiracy

who is footing the bill for scumbag #2's hospital stay?
taxpayers now that he is under arrest. I thought this was why the police waited until perps was released before arresting them. :unsure:
 
Where did the name Mike Mulugeta come from if not from the police?
I don't know this for a fact, but I think the name DID come over the scanner, but it was for an unrelated case.
I was one of the crazy guys who stayed up listening to the scanner feed all night. I definitely heard the name Mike Mulugeta on the scanner, but never heard the name Sunil Tripathi. I only saw these two names listed together on reddit a few minutes after Mike Mulugeta was mentioned on the scanner.
I think I heard it as well. I thought I heard Sunil's first name but could be mistaken. I think Mulugeta was mentioned in the reddit threads before it was mentioned on the scanner (in those few hours when reddit was running with those names).

-QG

 
Where did the name Mike Mulugeta come from if not from the police?
I don't know this for a fact, but I think the name DID come over the scanner, but it was for an unrelated case.
I was one of the crazy guys who stayed up listening to the scanner feed all night. I definitely heard the name Mike Mulugeta on the scanner, but never heard the name Sunil Tripathi. I only saw these two names listed together on reddit a few minutes after Mike Mulugeta was mentioned on the scanner.
I think I heard it as well. I thought I heard Sunil's first name but could be mistaken. I think Mulugeta was mentioned in the reddit threads before it was mentioned on the scanner (in those few hours when reddit was running with those names).

-QG
Pretty sure the scanner feed everyone was listening to was not just from one department. There are several departments that are on one feed from the website. People could've heard one department's transmission then immediately heard another and confused the two. Also. some systems do not run on the same frequency and bounce to different channels just so listeners can't follow.

 
I'm not getting this. This guy:

1. Disappears a month ago

2. ???

3. Somehow gets fingered as #2

4. ???

5. Washes up in the river

I haven't seen mention of how long he was in the river. This whole thing is very odd.
It's not odd at all. He committed suicide. Probably when he disappeared a month ago. Somehow after the pictures were released by the FBI of the bombers, the 4chan and reddit people scoured the interwebs and found the story about Sunil Tripathi disappearing from Brown University with a picture of him. They declared that he was suspect #2 based on the pictures. This became a fact on the interwebs, even though they didn't look like the same person. I got ridiculed for saying that here. :) There is nothing odd about it except that people on the interwebs now try to solve crimes better than the FBI can.
Actually some of Tripathi's HS classmates called it in.

 
I'm not getting this. This guy:

1. Disappears a month ago

2. ???

3. Somehow gets fingered as #2

4. ???

5. Washes up in the river

I haven't seen mention of how long he was in the river. This whole thing is very odd.
It's not odd at all. He committed suicide. Probably when he disappeared a month ago. Somehow after the pictures were released by the FBI of the bombers, the 4chan and reddit people scoured the interwebs and found the story about Sunil Tripathi disappearing from Brown University with a picture of him. They declared that he was suspect #2 based on the pictures. This became a fact on the interwebs, even though they didn't look like the same person. I got ridiculed for saying that here. :) There is nothing odd about it except that people on the interwebs now try to solve crimes better than the FBI can.
Actually some of Tripathi's HS classmates called it in.
Yep, that really got the ball rolling.

Was curious about the one thing that didn't square from the start and it was borne out. Tripathi was 6' plus - Dzohkhar is only 5'9"

-QG

 
I'm not getting this. This guy:

1. Disappears a month ago

2. ???

3. Somehow gets fingered as #2

4. ???

5. Washes up in the river

I haven't seen mention of how long he was in the river. This whole thing is very odd.
It's not odd at all. He committed suicide. Probably when he disappeared a month ago. Somehow after the pictures were released by the FBI of the bombers, the 4chan and reddit people scoured the interwebs and found the story about Sunil Tripathi disappearing from Brown University with a picture of him. They declared that he was suspect #2 based on the pictures. This became a fact on the interwebs, even though they didn't look like the same person. I got ridiculed for saying that here. :) There is nothing odd about it except that people on the interwebs now try to solve crimes better than the FBI can.
Actually some of Tripathi's HS classmates called it in.
Yep, that really got the ball rolling.

Was curious about the one thing that didn't square from the start and it was borne out. Tripathi was 6' plus - Dzohkhar is only 5'9"

-QG
Do we even know it was suicide? I hadn't heard that and the whole ID of Sunil was a giant leap to unsubstantiated conclusions.

He was fingered as part of the press grasping at leads straws. Everybody wants to be the first for breaking news and here was a foreign born person who fit a profile and couldn't be accounted for. AFAIK we still have no answer to his disappearance but we do know he was not the bomber. Height? pfffft. That wasn't even in the equation at that point in the profiling.

 
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I'm not getting this. This guy:

1. Disappears a month ago

2. ???

3. Somehow gets fingered as #2

4. ???

5. Washes up in the river

I haven't seen mention of how long he was in the river. This whole thing is very odd.
It's not odd at all. He committed suicide. Probably when he disappeared a month ago. Somehow after the pictures were released by the FBI of the bombers, the 4chan and reddit people scoured the interwebs and found the story about Sunil Tripathi disappearing from Brown University with a picture of him. They declared that he was suspect #2 based on the pictures. This became a fact on the interwebs, even though they didn't look like the same person. I got ridiculed for saying that here. :) There is nothing odd about it except that people on the interwebs now try to solve crimes better than the FBI can.
Actually some of Tripathi's HS classmates called it in.
Yep, that really got the ball rolling.

Was curious about the one thing that didn't square from the start and it was borne out. Tripathi was 6' plus - Dzohkhar is only 5'9"

-QG
Do we even know it was suicide? I hadn't heard that and the whole ID of Sunil was a giant leap to unsubstantiated conclusions.

He was fingered as part of the press grasping at leads straws. Everybody wants to be the first for breaking news and here was a foreign born person who fit a profile and couldn't be accounted for. AFAIK we still have no answer to his disappearance but we do know he was not the bomber. Height? pfffft. That wasn't even in the equation at that point in the profiling.
He was fingered as part of the Feds grasping at straws.

 
Anyone read anything about the bomb scare at the courthouse and that van that came in with the guy hanging on the side door? That seemed odd. Rumor was at the time that they called in 2 judges into the building.

 
It's baffling that these two clowns didn't have an exit strategy. The kid had his car in the shop. It appears neither one had a job. They had to rob somebody to get a car and ATM money. They had no money and no plan. These guys appear to not be very smart yet somehow figured out how to build several bombs. Maybe that was the easy part. But how can two people this stupid do that much damage?
When you think about it, what was the exit strategy of the Columbine, Virginia Tech or Sandy Hook kids? The only difference here is that after the initial terror attack, these two brothers were able to commit another act a couple of days later.

Crazy is crazy, sane people will never be able to figure it out.
They tried to get away with it though. They went back to their lives and acted as if they did nothing. That was never the plan with the other examples you listed.
Exactly. And where did they get their money? It appears the older brother's wife had a job. Did she support him? How did these guys pay for bomb making material, let alone living expenses? Did they have some off the books, cash only job, deal drugs, etc? I believe these guys did it. It just baffles me how they did it, given they both appear to be complete losers as characterized by Uncle Ruslan. The younger brother was also reportedly failing many of his college classes according to the NYTimes. He had a small $2500 scholarship from the city but that might cover books and one class. Who was paying for his school and living expenses? His out of country parents appear to be broke too. It's difficult to believe they acted alone, even though that appears to be true at this point. It's just very troubling that two people like this were able to do that much damage.
So as it turns out, they got their money from the government. Unbelievable. http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/tamerlan_tsarnaev_got_mass_welfare_benefits

And yeah his wife worked while he stayed at home.

 
sho nuff said:
The Feds?

Any link to where the Feds were grasping at him as a lead?

It was an internet driven hunt for the guy.
They released pictures to the public to try and ID the guy and his classmates fingered him. Not sure how the press plays into that. If they had any solid leads they id them on their own and sit on him for a while to see if they are a part of a bigger network. None of the pictures released were the focus of reddit/4chan up until that point so without the Feds putting it out there, it doesn't happen.

 
sho nuff said:
Leeroy Jenkins said:
So was that Saudi kid deported yesterday as the conspiracy theorists were saying?
Of course he was...right after Michelle Obama met with him too of course.
I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
Definitely not serious.

Joked a lot about how this supposed Saudi...was supposed to be deported and such a bad guy...yet somehow they let the first lady supposedly visit him.

Just how much of a joke these conspiracy theories are.

 
Interesting to find out that while these guys didn't have guns, the NRA has fought to allow them to have them if they'd wanted to buy them. In their opinions terrorist watch list isn't significant enough to take away a right. It's "an arbitrary list". Best to side with terrorist suspects than accidentally take away access to a gun.

Gun culture is seriously messed up.

 
sho nuff said:
The Feds?

Any link to where the Feds were grasping at him as a lead?

It was an internet driven hunt for the guy.
They released pictures to the public to try and ID the guy and his classmates fingered him. Not sure how the press plays into that. If they had any solid leads they id them on their own and sit on him for a while to see if they are a part of a bigger network. None of the pictures released were the focus of reddit/4chan up until that point so without the Feds putting it out there, it doesn't happen.
Reddit had a bunch of pics out before the Fed officially released anything. There was a gallery of possible suspects. As far as I remember the only pics the Feds put out were those of the actual #1 and #2.

 
Interesting to find out that while these guys didn't have guns, the NRA has fought to allow them to have them if they'd wanted to buy them. In their opinions terrorist watch list isn't significant enough to take away a right. It's "an arbitrary list". Best to side with terrorist suspects than accidentally take away access to a gun.Gun culture is seriously messed up.
Wrong thread.
 
Interesting to find out that while these guys didn't have guns, the NRA has fought to allow them to have them if they'd wanted to buy them. In their opinions terrorist watch list isn't significant enough to take away a right. It's "an arbitrary list". Best to side with terrorist suspects than accidentally take away access to a gun.Gun culture is seriously messed up.
Pretty sure they had guns.

 
Interesting to find out that while these guys didn't have guns, the NRA has fought to allow them to have them if they'd wanted to buy them. In their opinions terrorist watch list isn't significant enough to take away a right. It's "an arbitrary list". Best to side with terrorist suspects than accidentally take away access to a gun.Gun culture is seriously messed up.
Pretty sure they had guns.
And BB guns!

 
Interesting to find out that while these guys didn't have guns, the NRA has fought to allow them to have them if they'd wanted to buy them. In their opinions terrorist watch list isn't significant enough to take away a right. It's "an arbitrary list". Best to side with terrorist suspects than accidentally take away access to a gun.Gun culture is seriously messed up.
Pretty sure they had guns.
And BB guns!
They could have shot their eye out.

 
sho nuff said:
The Feds?

Any link to where the Feds were grasping at him as a lead?

It was an internet driven hunt for the guy.
They released pictures to the public to try and ID the guy and his classmates fingered him. Not sure how the press plays into that. If they had any solid leads they id them on their own and sit on him for a while to see if they are a part of a bigger network. None of the pictures released were the focus of reddit/4chan up until that point so without the Feds putting it out there, it doesn't happen.
Reddit had a bunch of pics out before the Fed officially released anything. There was a gallery of possible suspects. As far as I remember the only pics the Feds put out were those of the actual #1 and #2.
Yeah...don't recall the Feds releasing any pictures of this guy.

 
I'm sure the mom will now have to be on full-time surveillance....or can they ship her off somewhere?
Or just arrest her (as they should) and watch her in jail.
What did she do that would justify arresting her? Not rhetorical, I haven't followed the mom's story at all.
The parents live in Russia (Dagestan). They left sometime after the mom was arrested (but before she went on trial) for shop lifting at Lord & Taylor's.

 
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Interesting to find out that while these guys didn't have guns, the NRA has fought to allow them to have them if they'd wanted to buy them. In their opinions terrorist watch list isn't significant enough to take away a right. It's "an arbitrary list". Best to side with terrorist suspects than accidentally take away access to a gun.Gun culture is seriously messed up.
I am pretty sure that the NRA isn't looking to give aliens 2nd amendment rights. The terrorism watch list is arbitrary, names are added, and removed from it, not based on a finding or such. My friend's father was denied boarding a plane because he had the same name as an Irish terrorist; he was a Chief of Police at the time. The NRA does not oppose keeping guns out of the hands of criminal;, they oppose trying to accomplishing gun control by keeping guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens.
 
CNN Breaking News @cnnbrk
Sources: No firearm in boat where#Dzhokhar #Tsarnaev was found.

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Why was there so much shooting at the boat?
Uncertainty? :shrug: So he didn't attempt suicide?
You see where the conspiracy theorists get their bait. All the messed up reporting. But it's not proof of a conspiracy, it's proof of horrific media reporting.
Who is saying conspiracy (other than Glen Beck)? To me, it seems that either 1) the cops sucked or 2) they wanted him dead. Or maybe there's an explanation I don't know yet.

 
CNN Breaking News @cnnbrk
Sources: No firearm in boat where#Dzhokhar #Tsarnaev was found.

--

Why was there so much shooting at the boat?
Uncertainty? :shrug: So he didn't attempt suicide?
You see where the conspiracy theorists get their bait. All the messed up reporting. But it's not proof of a conspiracy, it's proof of horrific media reporting.
Who is saying conspiracy (other than Glen Beck)? To me, it seems that either 1) the cops sucked or 2) they wanted him dead. Or maybe there's an explanation I don't know yet.
If you don't regurgitate the official report you are apparently a conspiracy theorist.

 
CNN Breaking News @cnnbrk
Sources: No firearm in boat where#Dzhokhar #Tsarnaev was found.

--

Why was there so much shooting at the boat?
Uncertainty? :shrug: So he didn't attempt suicide?
You see where the conspiracy theorists get their bait. All the messed up reporting. But it's not proof of a conspiracy, it's proof of horrific media reporting.
why is it horrific 'media' reporting? The police said there was a shoot out. The media reported what the police said.

 
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