Falcons trying to trade VICK (1 Viewer)

[gonzobill5]

I think a lot of teams might take a chance on Vick, but that contract is going to be impossible to trade.

Right, but if he's reinstated, he gets paid unless they cut him, right? And cutting him saves cash but kills their cap for a while. So even though it's a tough sell, trying to trade him is the right thing to do.

Weren't the Falcons trying to get the league to somehow pardon the cap hit that they would take if they cut him? Seems like it would be in everyone (except Vick's) best interest.

 

[Rockchild]

Falcons trying to trade Vick Segal has previously indicated that Vick wants to return to the NFL to play quarterback and will not consider a move to wide receiver or running back.

I hope there is such a lack of interest in him as a QB he changes his mind.

He seems like a natural fit for some kind of wildcat setup.

Wasn't that what he was running his whole career?

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Chicago or Carolina should think about adding him when Atlanta releases him.

I'd puke if Chicago signed Vick. I would burn every piece of Bears merchandise I own and find another team without a second thought.

No you wouldn't.

I most certainly would. I loathed the man before the dog fighting and right now he's one step below shower mold in my eyes. I would drop the Bears as my team the minute the ink hit the paper.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

He doesn't "deserve" another chance to play pro sports for fame and money. He deserves to be free from prison once he's served his sentence, go get a Big Gulp, get on with his life and maybe try to be a good person. All the money he's lost is probably the only reason he's trying to get back in the NFL anyway; he has to know this won't be a fun process.

 

[cstu]

PETA: "We think you should be banned from the NFL for life!"

Vick: "But I'm reformed. Now I'm educated and sensitive and a good guy. I paid my debt, and I deserve another chance. By the way, what does PETA stand for anyway... People Eating Tasty Animals? here's $100k to spend on educating people to help prevent animal cruelty."

Edited.

 

[cstu]

He doesn't "deserve" another chance to play pro sports for fame and money. He deserves to be free from prison once he's served his sentence, go get a Big Gulp, get on with his life and maybe try to be a good person. All the money he's lost is probably the only reason he's trying to get back in the NFL anyway; he has to know this won't be a fun process.

The NFL is a business and if he helps increase the league's income then he should be allowed back in. Take that type of thinking to your nancy women's soccer league.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

The league makes money from the fans. Think they're stoked about paying to watch Vick play? Buy his jersey?

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

He has the legal right to play in the NFL, if they want him. But he doesn't deserve it. He had it and lost it.

It's up to each person to determine where the line is. Some people may not want any player who's done drugs or had kids out of wedlock in the league. Others might cheer Murderin' Rae Carruth if he was released from prison and scored 20 TDs for their team. How far is too far? Each person has to decide for himself.

Socially, I think it's the consenus that what Vick did isn't as bad as rape or murder, but worse than drug use or juicing. But, was it "bad enough" that he shouldn't be allowed to play anymore? Opinion is more divided on that.

 

[Rockchild]

How effective will he be if he does comes back? PacMan Jones wasn't gone as long and doesn't play as challenging a position and he was a bust.

 

[NYRAGE]

There might be some team out there willing to give up an 8th round pick for Vick.

 

[bcr8f]

Rod Woodson said he will be let back in and "sometimes we treat animals better than children that have been murdered"

We do? Are there child murderers in the NFL I don't know about?

Has the NFL passed on suspending him? I think he needs to be suspended at least a year and probably longer.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Goodell has already shown that it is a privelege to play in the NFL and not a right, so it would not surprise me if he did face more suspensions once the NFL has an opportunity to exact their own sort of penalty over Vick.

Goodell will sit down with Vick and they'll talk and he'll figure out what further punishment, if any, is necessary. The fact remains though that he's been sentenced and will have already paid that debt to society. If you don't want him to play in the NFL at all, ever again, then petition your congressmen to raise the punishment on the crimes he committed. The law already decided what his punishment should be.

It is hypocritical to single out one offender and say that he is no longer good enough to play in the NFL while there are rapists and worse running around the NFL who have not been brought to real justice in the world because of their status. I am more than a little cynical that many of the people who want to see Vick permabanned from the NFL are simply spiteful that he's got a good chance to make ridiculous money again. Well there's a lot more injustice in the world than a moron football player making millions of dollars. I am absolutely certain that some franchises will blacklist him. Others may think he's paid his debt and give him a second chance. That's life.

If he's got the ability to play football and someone in the NFL views him as an asset to their club, then he's going to play football again. Probably best to get over it because I think there's something to the idea that harbering resentment for too long eats away at your own self and leaves you bitter.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Yes, I'm jealous and resentful of rich people, it's the same reason I criticize Senators who murder the interns they were banging.

 

[Crippler]

Goodell has already shown that it is a privelege to play in the NFL and not a right, so it would not surprise me if he did face more suspensions once the NFL has an opportunity to exact their own sort of penalty over Vick.

Goodell will sit down with Vick and they'll talk and he'll figure out what further punishment, if any, is necessary. The fact remains though that he's been sentenced and will have already paid that debt to society. If you don't want him to play in the NFL at all, ever again, then petition your congressmen to raise the punishment on the crimes he committed. The law already decided what his punishment should be.

It is hypocritical to single out one offender and say that he is no longer good enough to play in the NFL while there are rapists and worse running around the NFL who have not been brought to real justice in the world because of their status. I am more than a little cynical that many of the people who want to see Vick permabanned from the NFL are simply spiteful that he's got a good chance to make ridiculous money again. Well there's a lot more injustice in the world than a moron football player making millions of dollars. I am absolutely certain that some franchises will blacklist him. Others may think he's paid his debt and give him a second chance. That's life.

If he's got the ability to play football and someone in the NFL views him as an asset to their club, then he's going to play football again. Probably best to get over it because I think there's something to the idea that harbering resentment for too long eats away at your own self and leaves you bitter.

ONe thing about paying debt to society. Has being in prison really paying. I think you need a year to determine if he has learned his lesson before letting him come back. Helps out the Falcons who got put in a terrible position thanks to Vick and gives him one year to try and stay clean. Damn Odell Thurman is still not back in the NFL and he did not go to prison.

 

[Andy Herron]

First of all, I think this thread has already far exceeded the amount of consideration and/or discussion that "any" NFL team will give him whenever he is reinstated.

Secondly, while the Falcons are doing the right thing in offering up the contractual rights to Vick, nobody is going to be interested in that at all. It's simply a business procedure. Another step in distancing themselves from him.

When the time comes (of his release), I don't see the market for Vick being any more than luke warm at best. Any consideration or impending offer given to him would be no more than the league minimum. He certainly won't garner any bidding wars, and will have to take what he can get. It's not like he'll have many options, whether it be "team" or even "position(s)."

He may very well get a better offer from the UFL.

 

[Bri]

I don't think anyone trades for him. They'll want to get him under a new contract.

Did the Falcons get a roster(cap) exemption for him last year? this(showing they don't want him) probably also sets up them getting some sort of exemption from Goodell toward the cap.

That's an awful lot of money against the cap for a criminal. IIRC Owners meetings are near the FA date or draft, so maybe Blank is advertently striking up this topic.

As a fan, I'd rather teams not draft or employ criminals. Trying to be reasonable or fair, I'd say people make mistakes and the team should probably "eat" some of the cap space but, that whole contract seems too much for a player that doesn't play. What do you guys think?

 

[munchkin]

I thought I read yesterday (likely on PFT) that Vick wasn't going to face further sanctions from the NFL once he was finished with the legal system.

I would imagine that once Vick is reinstated that he would be working from a totally new contract. I think the Falcons tried to get money back from his estate and were denied. I don't know that he will be paying them any retribution in the future.

You would think, on some level, that it would be difficult for a team to bring Vick back into the league from a PR standpoint. But to be honest, if he shows teams in his workouts that he can still bring it physically someone will take a chance. Once he makes a couple of plays as a returner or in the Wilcat formation many fans will get behind him.

 

[David Yudkin]

I would imagine that once Vick is reinstated that he would be working from a totally new contract.

Vick is still under contract with the Falcons, so unless they both agree to tear up his contract it's stilli n effect. By doing that, however, there are big salary cap ramifications, which is why this situation is even more of a mess.

 

[munchkin]

I would imagine that once Vick is reinstated that he would be working from a totally new contract.

Vick is still under contract with the Falcons, so unless they both agree to tear up his contract it's stilli n effect. By doing that, however, there are big salary cap ramifications, which is why this situation is even more of a mess.

Ahhhh...It doesn't look like the Falcons are in a situation that they can reasonably expect to come out of this, financially speaking, with any kind of a win. Fortunately the team is on a high from a great year which will cast this Vick mess against a better backdrop.They certainly don't owe Vick anything. Are you saying that from a financial standpoint they'd be better off to let this contract run it's course and spread the damage out over the next couple of years?

 

[Couch Potato]

I would imagine that once Vick is reinstated that he would be working from a totally new contract.

Vick is still under contract with the Falcons, so unless they both agree to tear up his contract it's stilli n effect. By doing that, however, there are big salary cap ramifications, which is why this situation is even more of a mess.

Ahhhh...It doesn't look like the Falcons are in a situation that they can reasonably expect to come out of this, financially speaking, with any kind of a win. Fortunately the team is on a high from a great year which will cast this Vick mess against a better backdrop.They certainly don't owe Vick anything. Are you saying that from a financial standpoint they'd be better off to let this contract run it's course and spread the damage out over the next couple of years?

One thing is clear, Vick will be off the books, off the team, this year. The Falcons will take whatever hit they take, but they won't carry him for any reason.

 

[David Yudkin]

I would imagine that once Vick is reinstated that he would be working from a totally new contract.

Vick is still under contract with the Falcons, so unless they both agree to tear up his contract it's stilli n effect. By doing that, however, there are big salary cap ramifications, which is why this situation is even more of a mess.

Ahhhh...It doesn't look like the Falcons are in a situation that they can reasonably expect to come out of this, financially speaking, with any kind of a win. Fortunately the team is on a high from a great year which will cast this Vick mess against a better backdrop.They certainly don't owe Vick anything. Are you saying that from a financial standpoint they'd be better off to let this contract run it's course and spread the damage out over the next couple of years?

ATl will have to eat whatever the consequences are, as I don't see him coming back to ATL and I don't see another team willing to take on his contract.

 

[PatrickT]

I would imagine that once Vick is reinstated that he would be working from a totally new contract.

Vick is still under contract with the Falcons, so unless they both agree to tear up his contract it's stilli n effect. By doing that, however, there are big salary cap ramifications, which is why this situation is even more of a mess.

Ahhhh...It doesn't look like the Falcons are in a situation that they can reasonably expect to come out of this, financially speaking, with any kind of a win. Fortunately the team is on a high from a great year which will cast this Vick mess against a better backdrop.They certainly don't owe Vick anything. Are you saying that from a financial standpoint they'd be better off to let this contract run it's course and spread the damage out over the next couple of years?

One thing is clear, Vick will be off the books, off the team, this year. The Falcons will take whatever hit they take, but they won't carry him for any reason.

I don't think that's 100% accurate. If he gets out, and the league immediately suspends him, it helps ATL to hold on to the contract because a suspended players salary doesn't count against the cap (I think), whereas if they cut him, it would count. Which is why they still have him on the books currently.

 

[David Yudkin]

I would imagine that once Vick is reinstated that he would be working from a totally new contract.

Vick is still under contract with the Falcons, so unless they both agree to tear up his contract it's stilli n effect. By doing that, however, there are big salary cap ramifications, which is why this situation is even more of a mess.

Ahhhh...It doesn't look like the Falcons are in a situation that they can reasonably expect to come out of this, financially speaking, with any kind of a win. Fortunately the team is on a high from a great year which will cast this Vick mess against a better backdrop.They certainly don't owe Vick anything. Are you saying that from a financial standpoint they'd be better off to let this contract run it's course and spread the damage out over the next couple of years?

One thing is clear, Vick will be off the books, off the team, this year. The Falcons will take whatever hit they take, but they won't carry him for any reason.

I don't think that's 100% accurate. If he gets out, and the league immediately suspends him, it helps ATL to hold on to the contract because a suspended players salary doesn't count against the cap (I think), whereas if they cut him, it would count. Which is why they still have him on the books currently.

I have yet to see anywhere that the league was still planning on suspending him and have seen several places where he was not likely to be suspended. I guess we'll find out when we get there, but I doubt they will make him sit for very long once he's released and technically done with the court system.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

Like it or not Vick will put butts in the seat if not for anything but a freak show and at 60.00 a pop that's enough in a business setting and guess what it's a business. People will boo and hiss and they will come(and pay) to see it and do it. I address the Peta people simply with we believe that man is a animal that needs to also be treated with dignity and respect(forgivness) and that unlike dogs and other aniamls that can not reason, man makes mistakes. What kind of country would we be if we did not give a man who paid his debt and is sorry for his mistakes and truly wants to show his remorse to the american public and even is willing to speak to children or do some kind of service to society.

But do you really want that kind of side show and distraction at your games? As far as PETA, I doubt there's anything anyone can say that will affect their views or actions.BTW, I do think he should be allowed to play, though I wouldn't root for him. And wouldn't take this on as an owner.

 

[Couch Potato]

In another thread started by jeter23 today asking everyone to guess where certain players will end up, for Vick I chose Cincy. They have no guarantee Palmer will come back 100%, Fitzpatrick was not stellar and is a FA, and Mike Brown / Marvin Lewis have rostered plenty of past and current players with both legal issues and public image problems. I think if Mike Brown can get Vick for cheap, he'd be all over it, and wouldn't really care about public outcry. Cincy fans have been unhappy with him for years, and since he's the owner as well as the personnel guy, he's pretty insulated from it all and doesn't really care what anyone thinks.

 

[dotman]

Chicago or Carolina should think about adding him when Atlanta releases him.

I'd puke if Chicago signed Vick. I would burn every piece of Bears merchandise I own and find another team without a second thought.

No you wouldn't.

I most certainly would. I loathed the man before the dog fighting and right now he's one step below shower mold in my eyes. I would drop the Bears as my team the minute the ink hit the paper.

Why did you loathe him before the dogfighting?

 

[Mikey16x]

PETA: "We think you should be banned from the NFL for life!"Vick: "But I'm reformed. Now I'm educated and sensitive and a good guy. I paid my debt, and I deserve another chance. By the way, what does PETA stand for anyway... People Eating Tasty Animals?"

:cricket: :cricket:

 

[Bojang0301]

I get the fact that there will be people who poke fun but all this stuff about not wanting Vick on your team is ridiculous. Obviously his serving time is a huge character hit but it hasn't stopped the likes of Jamal Lewis from continuing his career. Nor Ray Lewis or Pac Man Jones or Tank Johnson or Leonard Little or Michael Pittman or Jerramy Stevens... should I continue? In fact what Vick did was quite the lesser crime in some peoples eyes. Little KILLED a person and has been allowed to stay on the field. Stevens RAPED a women. Pedro Martinez has openly attended #### fights. You holier than thou people need to get a grip.

From an on the field standpoint I think that any team investing into him shouldn't be looking strictly as a QB. Even before prison he was a highly scrutinized passer but that doesn't mean he still can't develop. Look at Randall Cunningham. The rebirth of the wildcat means that there is more than a place for someone as dynamic as Mike Vick. For all the stock people want to put into his character and passing deficiencies they forget that at one point he was the most gifted talent in the game. They also forget that his teammates were extremely vocal in their support of Vick throughout his trial. The baggage that you take on is strictly from a PR standpoint for PETA and folks who are animal lovers. It is not right for him to have his career taken from him when so many others before have had second chances. He will get a second chance with someone and if they utilize him correctly I think that team will be very happy and very dangerous when Vick is allowed to see the field again.

 

[moderated]

I get the fact that there will be people who poke fun but all this stuff about not wanting Vick on your team is ridiculous. Obviously his serving time is a huge character hit but it hasn't stopped the likes of Jamal Lewis from continuing his career. Nor Ray Lewis or Pac Man Jones or Tank Johnson or Leonard Little or Michael Pittman or Jerramy Stevens... should I continue? In fact what Vick did was quite the lesser crime in some peoples eyes. Little KILLED a person and has been allowed to stay on the field. Stevens RAPED a women. Pedro Martinez has openly attended #### fights. You holier than though people need to get a grip. From an on the field standpoint I think that any team investing into him shouldn't be looking strictly as a QB. Even before prison he was a highly scrutinized passer but that doesn't mean he still can't develop. Look at Randall Cunningham. The rebirth of the wildcat means that there is more than a place for someone as dynamic as Mike Vick. For all the stock people want to put into his character and passing deficiencies they forget that at one point he was the most gifted talent in the game. They also forget that his teammates were extremely vocal in their support of Vick throughout his trial. The baggage that you take on is strictly from a PR standpoint for PETA and folks who are animal lovers. It is not right for him to have his career taken from him when so many others before have had second chances. He will get a second chance with someone and if they utilize him correctly I think that team will be very happy and very dangerous when Vick is allowed to see the field again.

Also people have short term memories. Initially it will be a distraction but after a month or so the media/public will move on to their next person to target with hate.

 

[Bojang0301]

As far as the PR goes.I would think a guy like Al Davis or Parcells could pull it off. Al just states his believe that he believes everyone deserves a second chance and we plan to give this man who has paid his debt to society a second chance with a (no pun intended)short leash of tolerance. You explain how great men have pulled themselves from the ashes and dusted them off and came back to do some great things in America. I would then dig up some names and examples and I would explain Mike knows where he stands and the opportunity he has been given.Like it or not Vick will put butts in the seat if not for anything but a freak show and at 60.00 a pop that's enough in a business setting and guess what it's a business. People will boo and hiss and they will come(and pay) to see it and do it. I address the Peta people simply with we believe that man is a animal that needs to also be treated with dignity and respect(forgivness) and that unlike dogs and other aniamls that can not reason, man makes mistakes. What kind of country would we be if we did not give a man who paid his debt and is sorry for his mistakes and truly wants to show his remorse to the american public and even is willing to speak to children or do some kind of service to society. What better stage then right here in our city, on our team ,in our league(input a small tear lol) where he can be seen doing the right things. I would of course think Vick would be willing to go out of his way to help this along, now should things go wrong...Oh well I'm crazy Al Davis and I'm about to die.Parcells has a outstanding record with getting players to play well for him and with questionable issues. Glenn(her), Key, Porter , Ricky Weedilliams and TO in the early days and I know I'm forgetting some others, Parcells just does not have to say anything except something slightly the same, but really I'm Parcells should suffice in the NFL and in Miami.

Your post could have used Cris Carter as a man who addressed his problems and rose to the top and LT was a player Parcells had back in the day that was pretty messed up most of the time.

 

[cstu]

Goodell has already shown that it is a privelege to play in the NFL and not a right, so it would not surprise me if he did face more suspensions once the NFL has an opportunity to exact their own sort of penalty over Vick.

Goodell will sit down with Vick and they'll talk and he'll figure out what further punishment, if any, is necessary. The fact remains though that he's been sentenced and will have already paid that debt to society. If you don't want him to play in the NFL at all, ever again, then petition your congressmen to raise the punishment on the crimes he committed. The law already decided what his punishment should be.

It is hypocritical to single out one offender and say that he is no longer good enough to play in the NFL while there are rapists and worse running around the NFL who have not been brought to real justice in the world because of their status. I am more than a little cynical that many of the people who want to see Vick permabanned from the NFL are simply spiteful that he's got a good chance to make ridiculous money again. Well there's a lot more injustice in the world than a moron football player making millions of dollars. I am absolutely certain that some franchises will blacklist him. Others may think he's paid his debt and give him a second chance. That's life.

If he's got the ability to play football and someone in the NFL views him as an asset to their club, then he's going to play football again. Probably best to get over it because I think there's something to the idea that harbering resentment for too long eats away at your own self and leaves you bitter.

ONe thing about paying debt to society. Has being in prison really paying. I think you need a year to determine if he has learned his lesson before letting him come back. Helps out the Falcons who got put in a terrible position thanks to Vick and gives him one year to try and stay clean. Damn Odell Thurman is still not back in the NFL and he did not go to prison.

Stays clean? You think he's going to run out and start finding some dogs to kill?

 

[David Yudkin]

Here's what I could find about his contract . . .

Vick has a contract that runs to 2013 and calls for him to receive a base salary of $9 million and a bonus of $6.43 million in 2009. The remainder of the contract is worth $45.11 million, with another possible $3 million in Pro Bowl bonuses.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I get the fact that there will be people who poke fun but all this stuff about not wanting Vick on your team is ridiculous. Obviously his serving time is a huge character hit but it hasn't stopped the likes of Jamal Lewis from continuing his career. Nor Ray Lewis or Pac Man Jones or Tank Johnson or Leonard Little or Michael Pittman or Jerramy Stevens... should I continue? In fact what Vick did was quite the lesser crime in some peoples eyes. Little KILLED a person and has been allowed to stay on the field. Stevens RAPED a women. Pedro Martinez has openly attended #### fights. You holier than thou people need to get a grip.

I think the DUI guys should be penalized much harder than they are. It's worse than what Vick did in my opinion. Of course, this thread is just about Vick.

 

[Traders2001]

The league makes money from the fans. Think they're stoked about paying to watch Vick play? Buy his jersey?

Yesss.They still buy Ray Lewis jersey, and he comitted ................. . That s a 100 times worst then Vick, but he found a way out of it ( money , intimidation . dunno why Lewis wad nt arrested ).

 

[Phurfur]

The league makes money from the fans. Think they're stoked about paying to watch Vick play? Buy his jersey?

Yesss.They still buy Ray Lewis jersey, and he comitted ................. . That s a 100 times worst then Vick, but he found a way out of it ( money , intimidation . dunno why Lewis wad nt arrested ).

please explain what ....................... is.

 

[Couch Potato]

The league makes money from the fans. Think they're stoked about paying to watch Vick play? Buy his jersey?

Yesss.They still buy Ray Lewis jersey, and he comitted ................. . That s a 100 times worst then Vick, but he found a way out of it ( money , intimidation . dunno why Lewis wad nt arrested ).

please explain what ....................... is.

Rhymes with tape. It was never prosecuted criminally, and the civil case was settled out of court.Here's the Wikipedia version of the story.

On July 27, 2000, Stevens was arrested for the sexual assault of a 19-year-old University of Washington freshman. Stevens initially denied having sex with the accuser, but later admitted to having sex with her in the yard of a fraternity house in the early morning hours of June 4, 2000, after a fraternity party, but maintained it was consensual. However, a UW student who walked by and witnessed them having sex called 911 to report it as a possible rape, noting that the woman appeared to be drugged; he described her as "half passed out ... eyes glazed ... no one home." Stevens's semen was found in the victim, who was penetrated ######lly and anally, and numerous witnesses testified that she acted as if drugged at the party. Police suspected a date rape drug was given to the woman at the party, but blood samples were taken too late for testing.Despite these suspicions, the King County prosecutor declined to file rape charges against Stevens due to "confusing and conflicting statements".A civil suit, which resulted in a settlement, was later filed by the victim. The civil settlement was not publicly disclosed, but according to published reports included a $300,000 payment by Stevens to the plaintiff. The investigation and aftermath of this incident and the subsequent decision to not charge Stevens were reported by the Seattle Times.

 

[Phurfur]

The league makes money from the fans. Think they're stoked about paying to watch Vick play? Buy his jersey?

Yesss.They still buy Ray Lewis jersey, and he comitted ................. . That s a 100 times worst then Vick, but he found a way out of it ( money , intimidation . dunno why Lewis wad nt arrested ).

please explain what ....................... is.

Rhymes with tape. It was never prosecuted criminally, and the civil case was settled out of court.Here's the Wikipedia version of the story.

On July 27, 2000, Stevens was arrested for the sexual assault of a 19-year-old University of Washington freshman. Stevens initially denied having sex with the accuser, but later admitted to having sex with her in the yard of a fraternity house in the early morning hours of June 4, 2000, after a fraternity party, but maintained it was consensual. However, a UW student who walked by and witnessed them having sex called 911 to report it as a possible rape, noting that the woman appeared to be drugged; he described her as "half passed out ... eyes glazed ... no one home." Stevens's semen was found in the victim, who was penetrated ######lly and anally, and numerous witnesses testified that she acted as if drugged at the party. Police suspected a date rape drug was given to the woman at the party, but blood samples were taken too late for testing.Despite these suspicions, the King County prosecutor declined to file rape charges against Stevens due to "confusing and conflicting statements".A civil suit, which resulted in a settlement, was later filed by the victim. The civil settlement was not publicly disclosed, but according to published reports included a $300,000 payment by Stevens to the plaintiff. The investigation and aftermath of this incident and the subsequent decision to not charge Stevens were reported by the Seattle Times.

Ah, what does this have to do with Ray Lewis?

 

[Couch Potato]

The league makes money from the fans. Think they're stoked about paying to watch Vick play? Buy his jersey?

Yesss.They still buy Ray Lewis jersey, and he comitted ................. . That s a 100 times worst then Vick, but he found a way out of it ( money , intimidation . dunno why Lewis wad nt arrested ).

please explain what ....................... is.

Rhymes with tape. It was never prosecuted criminally, and the civil case was settled out of court.Here's the Wikipedia version of the story.

On July 27, 2000, Stevens was arrested for the sexual assault of a 19-year-old University of Washington freshman. Stevens initially denied having sex with the accuser, but later admitted to having sex with her in the yard of a fraternity house in the early morning hours of June 4, 2000, after a fraternity party, but maintained it was consensual. However, a UW student who walked by and witnessed them having sex called 911 to report it as a possible rape, noting that the woman appeared to be drugged; he described her as "half passed out ... eyes glazed ... no one home." Stevens's semen was found in the victim, who was penetrated ######lly and anally, and numerous witnesses testified that she acted as if drugged at the party. Police suspected a date rape drug was given to the woman at the party, but blood samples were taken too late for testing.Despite these suspicions, the King County prosecutor declined to file rape charges against Stevens due to "confusing and conflicting statements".A civil suit, which resulted in a settlement, was later filed by the victim. The civil settlement was not publicly disclosed, but according to published reports included a $300,000 payment by Stevens to the plaintiff. The investigation and aftermath of this incident and the subsequent decision to not charge Stevens were reported by the Seattle Times.

Ah, what does this have to do with Ray Lewis?

Nothing at all!! I don't know why I got Stevens in my head.

 

[stevegamer]

I think there's a chance that the Falcons would hold Vick's contract if he gets suspende, and it looks like na uncapped year is around the corner because they could let him go in the uncapped year - cap hit is irrelevant.

He'd probably need to be suspended by the NFL for the contract not to count against the year they carry him to get to the cap year - otherwise they may not be willing to do so.

 

[msommer]

I think there's a chance that the Falcons would hold Vick's contract if he gets suspende, and it looks like na uncapped year is around the corner because they could let him go in the uncapped year - cap hit is irrelevant.He'd probably need to be suspended by the NFL for the contract not to count against the year they carry him to get to the cap year - otherwise they may not be willing to do so.

A possible out for the Falcons is if Vick is suspended to 2010. If 2010 is uncapped they get to pay no money to Vick and the cap hit is obviously gone.Worst case scenario for the Falcons is to pay 14M in 2009 to a guy who will be inactive Sundays because the cap hit means you can't (hypothetically) sign your rookies if you cut Vick...

 

[Truman]

49ers head coach Mike Singletary may have opened the floodgates into a wave of Michael Vick speculation Tuesday night when he said the team would consider acquiring the suspended and imprisoned quarterback.

"I'm not going to say I'm open or closed," Singletary said of potentially getting Vick, according to the Santa Rosa Press Democrat.

"I'd say it has to be something (GM) Scot (McCloughan) and I talk about and feel good about one way or the other. But we have not talked about it at this point in great detail. We're trying to focus on what we have."

http://blogs.usatoday.com/thehuddle/2009/0...-the-49ers.html