Falcons waived RB Jason Snelling. (1 Viewer)

[Kit Fisto]

Everything I read on Snelling this preseason said if it weren't for the Falcons interest in him, he likely wouldn't be on any other NFL roster.

 

[Jason Wood]

Guys...this is one team's 53rd man being replaced by another team's 54th man. Does anyone seriously think either was a threat to Dunn/Norwood barring injury? C'mon; I know we all get excited about 53-man roster cutdowns but this is the definition of NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

 

[FavreCo]

LMAO at you people. Who does Atlanta play week 1? Yeah, Minnesota. Pinner is there to fill in Atlanta on what Minnesota does. Just the same way that The Lions picked up some hack from Oakland's cuts this past week. You can shut this thread down now that I have explained why Atlanta picked up Pinner.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

LMAO at you people. Who does Atlanta play week 1? Yeah, Minnesota. Pinner is there to fill in Atlanta on what Minnesota does. Just the same way that The Lions picked up some hack from Oakland's cuts this past week. You can shut this thread down now that I have explained why Atlanta picked up Pinner.

Lack of proven depth is why. This is just a byproduct.

 

[IM666]

LMAO at you people. Who does Atlanta play week 1? Yeah, Minnesota. Pinner is there to fill in Atlanta on what Minnesota does. Just the same way that The Lions picked up some hack from Oakland's cuts this past week. You can shut this thread down now that I have explained why Atlanta picked up Pinner.

Lack of proven depth is why. This is just a byproduct.

 

[Sleeper 43]

Its EASY to hate on people that see even a little value in Pinner because hes a FA and /or hasn't exploded onto the scene. Its takes bawlz to stick your neck out when no-one else has and say "hey I think this guy can amount to something". Most of the time if you wait for a player to completely prove himself to you and others, its too late to grab him. Your not a trendsetter or the one to uncover gems if every opinion that isn't mainstream is

This isnt blasphemy. I'm sure I wasn't the only Chester owner last year who was a little uncomfortable when Pinner filled in not only well in Chester's absence but showed a little more burst than Chester too.

I also think Pinner was NOT brought in to share with Norwood but more to back-up Norwood should and injury occur. Snelling wasn't capable of being the every down backup.

I find it funny Detroit homers are labelling him like he was just cut from their camp last week when in fact hes gone through a whole new system since he was last on the Lions. Is it unreasonable to think that Childress might have taught him a thing or 2 the scrub coaches in Detroit couldn't ? You guys don't know what hes learned or picked up in 1.5 years while being in Minn.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I think this signals the end of Dunn... hes looked like crap this pre-season.

he only played in 1 quarter or so of 1 game (in which he was dinged) all pre-season

proves my point even more

how? he was recovering from surgery and wasn't expected to play much. i'm not defending him, just saying itiis hard use pre-season play (or lack of) as evidence.

Dunn is really undervalued, considering he is the starter. I am not concerned at all with how he looked in preseason. He is coming off an injury, and should not have been expected to be really sharp. I think it benefited him just getting on the field. He is a veteran, and knows how to be ready to play. Dunn is durable, he has only missed 8 games in his 10 years. He has 3 straight years with over 1000 rushing yards. I don't see him getting 1000, but I don't see him being sent to the bench either. He should get half the load or a little more. Pinner or Snelling...it doesn't matter. The role is the same regardless of which of them is here. Pinner is experienced, and is tough between the tackles. Regardless of past success, it seems obvious he will be involved in the running game.

I think this will be a full blown RBBC, and if that's true, Dunn has the better value than Norwood because he is being drafted several rounds later. People who think Norwood will be the feature back, getting 20 touches a game will be disappointed.

I know Dunn being undervalued has been the case for a couple of seasons now... but hes in his 30's, has had 2 Shoulder Surgeries this off-season which caused him to miss a lot of camp, and has a new coach who owns him nothing...you can't really expect Dunn to do it anymore.Pinner is going to steal Dunn's carries; not Norwood's

 

[switz]

Would this be a boost up for Norwood or does Pinner now steal the goal line love?

Haha... if Pinner is anything, it's NOT a goalline RB.Norwood will finish the season as the best RB on the roster.

Switz, I appreciate the sentiment here, but let me take this a step further: Norwood is BY FAR the best RB on the roster to START the season.

Hey... are we allowed to agree?

 

[FavreCo]

LMAO at you people. Who does Atlanta play week 1? Yeah, Minnesota. Pinner is there to fill in Atlanta on what Minnesota does. Just the same way that The Lions picked up some hack from Oakland's cuts this past week. You can shut this thread down now that I have explained why Atlanta picked up Pinner.

Lack of proven depth is why. This is just a byproduct.

Pinner. Enough said. Well, let me say it again...Pinner.

 

[FavreCo]

I know Dunn being undervalued has been the case for a couple of seasons now... but hes in his 30's, has had 2 Shoulder Surgeries this off-season which caused him to miss a lot of camp, and has a new coach who owns him nothing...you can't really expect Dunn to do it anymore.Pinner is going to steal Dunn's carries; not Norwood's

The only thing Pinner is doing right now is stealing some Atlanta Falcon's money.

 

[nittanylion]

Ovie Mugheli is Petrino's guy to pound it in from the 1.

Finally, someone who gets it. Sure took long enough.

Oh, and for what it's worth, Jerious Norwood has a lot to prove before he should EVER be considered anywhere NEAR the caliber of NFL RB that Warrick Dunn is. Don't get me wrong, Norwood is an exciting player, but I don't think he's proven yet that he's 'complete', and I don't view him short or long term, as an every down back at this time. IMO, he'll always be involved in a time-share, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion...

In any case, there are better avenues to pursue than searching for the 'hidden gold' in this mess. Let someone else figure it out - even if you 'guess right', the potential return on investment isn't worth the risk, given the rest of the unsettled variables going on in the Atlanta Offensive equation right now.

I'd gladly pass on Norwood to draft Dunn later, and get relatively the same production, and take Mughelli on a flyer in Rds 18-20, or off the waiver wire.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Guys...this is one team's 53rd man being replaced by another team's 54th man. Does anyone seriously think either was a threat to Dunn/Norwood barring injury? C'mon; I know we all get excited about 53-man roster cutdowns but this is the definition of NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

The answer is Chaos Commish. Was this a trick question?

 

[switz]

I'm really surprised at some of the vitriol leveled at Chaos Commish for expressing an opinion about these roster moves by Atlanta. I think most are missing the point, he is not saying that Pinner is going to lead the league in rushing, he is saying that having a 4 year vet in Pinner on the Falcons roster is more of a concern to Norwood/Dunn fantasy owners than having a rookie in Jason Snelling who has flashed a bit in a couple of preseason games. Pinner is more valuable to the Falcons running game in 2007 than Snelling would have been.

Norwood will not carry the load, that should be as clear as mud based on the Petrino moves so far. This situation even once Dunn is gone has RBBC written all over it, if Pinner doesn't work out for them in 2007, don't be surprised to see them draft another RB with goal line qualities in 08.....that is of course if Snelling doesn't make it to their practice squad.

Kurt, no offense man, but Snelling had more potential than Pinner. Its not like Pinner has shown flashes of potential, he's shown consistently below average RB skills. No doubt he was exciting in college, but he's been in the league quite a few eyars, and is a known quantity. That's the problem with CC's post that Norwood or Dunn owners should be worried - fact is, anyone who has seen Pinner's NFL career KNOWS Norwood and Dunn owners have nothing to worry about from Pinner.As for your point that Norwood will always be in an RBBC, I don't doubt to some extent he will be. But he does have the skills to be the 80% guy in the 80-20 split. He's a good runner, great receiver, he has every down capability - except - short yardage situation. Which is where the other 20% guy would need to come in. However, Norwood is a threat to score any time he touches the ball.

Here's the thing - Norwood to me looks like a cross between MJD and Adrian Peterson as far as skillsets go... but he doesn't have Fred Taylor in front of him (as in MJDs case) and he's not a injury prone as Peterson. I don't think he is as talented as those two backs, but he does have similar skills, and I think he has enough talent to put up big numbers given the opportunity.

 

[switz]

I'd gladly pass on Norwood to draft Dunn later, and get relatively the same production, and take Mughelli on a flyer in Rds 18-20, or off the waiver wire.

I doubt it. Petrino absolutely LOVES Norwoods potential. He has had plays designed specifically for Norwood.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

I'm really surprised at some of the vitriol leveled at Chaos Commish for expressing an opinion about these roster moves by Atlanta. I think most are missing the point, he is not saying that Pinner is going to lead the league in rushing, he is saying that having a 4 year vet in Pinner on the Falcons roster is more of a concern to Norwood/Dunn fantasy owners than having a rookie in Jason Snelling who has flashed a bit in a couple of preseason games. Pinner is more valuable to the Falcons running game in 2007 than Snelling would have been.

Norwood will not carry the load, that should be as clear as mud based on the Petrino moves so far. This situation even once Dunn is gone has RBBC written all over it, if Pinner doesn't work out for them in 2007, don't be surprised to see them draft another RB with goal line qualities in 08.....that is of course if Snelling doesn't make it to their practice squad.

Kurt, no offense man, but Snelling had more potential than Pinner. Its not like Pinner has shown flashes of potential, he's shown consistently below average RB skills. No doubt he was exciting in college, but he's been in the league quite a few eyars, and is a known quantity. That's the problem with CC's post that Norwood or Dunn owners should be worried - fact is, anyone who has seen Pinner's NFL career KNOWS Norwood and Dunn owners have nothing to worry about from Pinner.As for your point that Norwood will always be in an RBBC, I don't doubt to some extent he will be. But he does have the skills to be the 80% guy in the 80-20 split. He's a good runner, great receiver, he has every down capability - except - short yardage situation. Which is where the other 20% guy would need to come in. However, Norwood is a threat to score any time he touches the ball.

Here's the thing - Norwood to me looks like a cross between MJD and Adrian Peterson as far as skillsets go... but he doesn't have Fred Taylor in front of him (as in MJDs case) and he's not a injury prone as Peterson. I don't think he is as talented as those two backs, but he does have similar skills, and I think he has enough talent to put up big numbers given the opportunity.

Norwoods skills aren't in question, it's the durability. He doesn't have the build of a RB who can carry the load, and he was banged up last year and missed 2 games, and he only had 99 carries. Thinking he can get into the mid 200's or even higher is risky. I would also be very surprised to see Norwood in short yardage.

 

[Kit Fisto]

Ovie Mugheli is Petrino's guy to pound it in from the 1.

Finally, someone who gets it. Sure took long enough.

Oh, and for what it's worth, Jerious Norwood has a lot to prove before he should EVER be considered anywhere NEAR the caliber of NFL RB that Warrick Dunn is. Don't get me wrong, Norwood is an exciting player, but I don't think he's proven yet that he's 'complete', and I don't view him short or long term, as an every down back at this time. IMO, he'll always be involved in a time-share, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion...

In any case, there are better avenues to pursue than searching for the 'hidden gold' in this mess. Let someone else figure it out - even if you 'guess right', the potential return on investment isn't worth the risk, given the rest of the unsettled variables going on in the Atlanta Offensive equation right now.

I'd gladly pass on Norwood to draft Dunn later, and get relatively the same production, and take Mughelli on a flyer in Rds 18-20, or off the waiver wire.

"Thank you, thank you, you're far too kind..."Seriously, for anyone who wants to peak into the mind of Bobby Petrino, see Louisville. Power-running attack, 40 rushing TDs. Norwood/Dunn may gobble up all the yards, but the TD guy to have is Mughelli, and like NittanyLion above said... much, much cheaper.

 

[spurs44]

The fact that Jason Snelling and Artose Pinner are causing such a heated flare-up is just proof that we need to start the GD season already!

 

[spurs44]

I think this signals the end of Dunn... hes looked like crap this pre-season.

he only played in 1 quarter or so of 1 game (in which he was dinged) all pre-season

proves my point even more

how? he was recovering from surgery and wasn't expected to play much. i'm not defending him, just saying itiis hard use pre-season play (or lack of) as evidence.

Dunn is really undervalued, considering he is the starter. I am not concerned at all with how he looked in preseason. He is coming off an injury, and should not have been expected to be really sharp. I think it benefited him just getting on the field. He is a veteran, and knows how to be ready to play. Dunn is durable, he has only missed 8 games in his 10 years. He has 3 straight years with over 1000 rushing yards. I don't see him getting 1000, but I don't see him being sent to the bench either. He should get half the load or a little more. Pinner or Snelling...it doesn't matter. The role is the same regardless of which of them is here. Pinner is experienced, and is tough between the tackles. Regardless of past success, it seems obvious he will be involved in the running game.

I think this will be a full blown RBBC, and if that's true, Dunn has the better value than Norwood because he is being drafted several rounds later. People who think Norwood will be the feature back, getting 20 touches a game will be disappointed.

I agree that Norwood won't get 20 carries a game. I see about 12-15 a game with 5-7 pass rec. I see him as a bush type and petrino will try to get him in the open field a lot of screen passes for example. I think this year norwood will get a total of 8-10 td's combined rush/rec. I think he will be very good in ppr leahues. My .02.

 

[Rozelle]

Has anyone picked up Snelling yet? Did Atlanta sign him to PS? He should have cleared waivers this afternoon?

 

[mightyeskimo]

Has anyone picked up Snelling yet? Did Atlanta sign him to PS? He should have cleared waivers this afternoon?

Haven't seen anything yet.

 

[FavreCo]

LMAO at you people. Who does Atlanta play week 1? Yeah, Minnesota. Pinner is there to fill in Atlanta on what Minnesota does. Just the same way that The Lions picked up some hack from Oakland's cuts this past week. You can shut this thread down now that I have explained why Atlanta picked up Pinner.

Lack of proven depth is why. This is just a byproduct.

Yeah. um, right.The Boston Globe reports there already appears to be some gamesmanship between the Patriots and Jets, as WR Reche Caldwell met with New York officials on a free agent visit yesterday. The Jets might indeed be interested in Caldwell, who was released by the Patriots Monday. But considering they are stocked at the position with six receivers - Jerricho Cotchery, Laveranues Coles, Justin McCareins, Brad Smith, Wallace Wright, and Chansi Stuckey - the visit with Caldwell probably could have waited. Of course, Caldwell could provide some immediate value by passing along inside information about how the Patriots have been preparing for the Jets. The same thing Pinner is currently doing with the Falcons for their week 1 opponent - Minnesota. I really am amazed that I am the only one on this board that can see this.

 

[Anthony Borbely]

LMAO at you people. Who does Atlanta play week 1? Yeah, Minnesota. Pinner is there to fill in Atlanta on what Minnesota does. Just the same way that The Lions picked up some hack from Oakland's cuts this past week. You can shut this thread down now that I have explained why Atlanta picked up Pinner.

Lack of proven depth is why. This is just a byproduct.

Yeah. um, right.The Boston Globe reports there already appears to be some gamesmanship between the Patriots and Jets, as WR Reche Caldwell met with New York officials on a free agent visit yesterday. The Jets might indeed be interested in Caldwell, who was released by the Patriots Monday. But considering they are stocked at the position with six receivers - Jerricho Cotchery, Laveranues Coles, Justin McCareins, Brad Smith, Wallace Wright, and Chansi Stuckey - the visit with Caldwell probably could have waited. Of course, Caldwell could provide some immediate value by passing along inside information about how the Patriots have been preparing for the Jets. The same thing Pinner is currently doing with the Falcons for their week 1 opponent - Minnesota. I really am amazed that I am the only one on this board that can see this.

Pinner is a better RB than Snelling and is experienced. The Falcons needed RB depth. This move had nothing to do with the schedule; it was need based. The Lions picked up Frampton because Bullocks is on IR and they need a safety. He is not a hack. They did not pick him up to get info, it was need based, and Frampton has some talent.

Caldwell was brought in, he hasn't signed yet. But look at the Jet WRs...it's not like they are loaded with talent; they have a definite need. The story above is just speculation by a reporter.

The Caldwell story is the only one that could be related to the schedule, but it's not etched in stone that it is.

 

[spurs44]

LMAO at you people. Who does Atlanta play week 1? Yeah, Minnesota. Pinner is there to fill in Atlanta on what Minnesota does. Just the same way that The Lions picked up some hack from Oakland's cuts this past week. You can shut this thread down now that I have explained why Atlanta picked up Pinner.

Lack of proven depth is why. This is just a byproduct.

Yeah. um, right.The Boston Globe reports there already appears to be some gamesmanship between the Patriots and Jets, as WR Reche Caldwell met with New York officials on a free agent visit yesterday. The Jets might indeed be interested in Caldwell, who was released by the Patriots Monday. But considering they are stocked at the position with six receivers - Jerricho Cotchery, Laveranues Coles, Justin McCareins, Brad Smith, Wallace Wright, and Chansi Stuckey - the visit with Caldwell probably could have waited. Of course, Caldwell could provide some immediate value by passing along inside information about how the Patriots have been preparing for the Jets. The same thing Pinner is currently doing with the Falcons for their week 1 opponent - Minnesota. I really am amazed that I am the only one on this board that can see this.

Pinner is a better RB than Snelling and is experienced. The Falcons needed RB depth. This move had nothing to do with the schedule; it was need based. The Lions picked up Frampton because Bullocks is on IR and they need a safety. He is not a hack. They did not pick him up to get info, it was need based, and Frampton has some talent.

Caldwell was brought in, he hasn't signed yet. But look at the Jet WRs...it's not like they are loaded with talent; they have a definite need. The story above is just speculation by a reporter.

The Caldwell story is the only one that could be related to the schedule, but it's not etched in stone that it is.

Caldwell upgrading the Jets rec corps!

 

[Football Jones]

I believe Norwood is going to have a far bigger role than what most people realize.

 

[switz]

I believe Norwood is going to have a far bigger role than what most people realize.

He won't be a 20-carry/gm guy, but he will be in the game more than any other RB, and will have around 20 touches a game.

 

[Jason Wood]

LMAO at you people. Who does Atlanta play week 1? Yeah, Minnesota. Pinner is there to fill in Atlanta on what Minnesota does. Just the same way that The Lions picked up some hack from Oakland's cuts this past week. You can shut this thread down now that I have explained why Atlanta picked up Pinner.

Lack of proven depth is why. This is just a byproduct.

Yeah. um, right.The Boston Globe reports there already appears to be some gamesmanship between the Patriots and Jets, as WR Reche Caldwell met with New York officials on a free agent visit yesterday. The Jets might indeed be interested in Caldwell, who was released by the Patriots Monday. But considering they are stocked at the position with six receivers - Jerricho Cotchery, Laveranues Coles, Justin McCareins, Brad Smith, Wallace Wright, and Chansi Stuckey - the visit with Caldwell probably could have waited. Of course, Caldwell could provide some immediate value by passing along inside information about how the Patriots have been preparing for the Jets. The same thing Pinner is currently doing with the Falcons for their week 1 opponent - Minnesota. I really am amazed that I am the only one on this board that can see this.

Pinner is a better RB than Snelling and is experienced. The Falcons needed RB depth. This move had nothing to do with the schedule; it was need based. The Lions picked up Frampton because Bullocks is on IR and they need a safety. He is not a hack. They did not pick him up to get info, it was need based, and Frampton has some talent.

Caldwell was brought in, he hasn't signed yet. But look at the Jet WRs...it's not like they are loaded with talent; they have a definite need. The story above is just speculation by a reporter.

The Caldwell story is the only one that could be related to the schedule, but it's not etched in stone that it is.

Caldwell upgrading the Jets rec corps!

Why is that ???He had 61 receptions for 760 yards and 4 TDs last year for the Patriots. You don't think he's an MAJOR upgrade over Justin McCariens, Chansi Stuckey or Wallace Wright?

 

[3C's]

Pinner is more of a threat to Norwood/Dunn than Snelling was. So the Norwood haters who were pimping Snelling may look like they got egg on their face, but the Norwood lovers should not be happy to hear this.

The NewsHead coach Bobby Petrino stated that newly signed running back Artose Pinner could get goal line carries. "We're looking for a back that can help us in short-yardage, goal-line situations," Petrino told the St. Paul Pioneer Press on Wednesday. "Someone who's more physical than the two that we have carrying the ball for us right now."Our ViewIn other words, Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood may not get the money carries. Let the panic begin for Dunn and Norwood owners who play in touchdown-heavy leagues.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

This was never released, but apparently Snelling is on the PS for Atlanta.

Falcons Roster

 

[cha-ching]

I think this move may have been more for ST than the short yardage guy. It is a longshot, but that guy may already be on the roster with the big contract -- Mughelli.

Pinner probably can block better than Snelling too! I don't see Dunn or Norwood getting any competition from Pinner and Ovie showed he can drive the pile for a short TD in pre-season.

 

[texasheat]

As a Lions fan I can say without a doubt that Artrose Pinner is not an NFL RB.

I bet his paycheck and momma says otherwise.

 

[LBH]

Pinner is more of a threat to Norwood/Dunn than Snelling was. So the Norwood haters who were pimping Snelling may look like they got egg on their face, but the Norwood lovers should not be happy to hear this.

I agree with you. As a Norwood owner in several leagues, I dont feel any better having Pinner around. I think anytime you have a guy whos job is GL work, it only gets better from there if his role expands. Norwood and Dunn arent exactly entrenched as full season starters in Atlanta imo.

 

[Ned]

Pinner is more of a threat to Norwood/Dunn than Snelling was. So the Norwood haters who were pimping Snelling may look like they got egg on their face, but the Norwood lovers should not be happy to hear this.

The NewsHead coach Bobby Petrino stated that newly signed running back Artose Pinner could get goal line carries. "We're looking for a back that can help us in short-yardage, goal-line situations," Petrino told the St. Paul Pioneer Press on Wednesday. "Someone who's more physical than the two that we have carrying the ball for us right now."Our ViewIn other words, Warrick Dunn and Jerious Norwood may not get the money carries. Let the panic begin for Dunn and Norwood owners who play in touchdown-heavy leagues.

amazing how posts like these always go unnoticed in these types of debates...

 

[pretender]

This was never released, but apparently Snelling is on the PS for Atlanta.

Falcons Roster

Thank You!

 

[spurs44]

LMAO at you people. Who does Atlanta play week 1? Yeah, Minnesota. Pinner is there to fill in Atlanta on what Minnesota does. Just the same way that The Lions picked up some hack from Oakland's cuts this past week. You can shut this thread down now that I have explained why Atlanta picked up Pinner.

Lack of proven depth is why. This is just a byproduct.

Yeah. um, right.The Boston Globe reports there already appears to be some gamesmanship between the Patriots and Jets, as WR Reche Caldwell met with New York officials on a free agent visit yesterday. The Jets might indeed be interested in Caldwell, who was released by the Patriots Monday. But considering they are stocked at the position with six receivers - Jerricho Cotchery, Laveranues Coles, Justin McCareins, Brad Smith, Wallace Wright, and Chansi Stuckey - the visit with Caldwell probably could have waited. Of course, Caldwell could provide some immediate value by passing along inside information about how the Patriots have been preparing for the Jets. The same thing Pinner is currently doing with the Falcons for their week 1 opponent - Minnesota. I really am amazed that I am the only one on this board that can see this.

Pinner is a better RB than Snelling and is experienced. The Falcons needed RB depth. This move had nothing to do with the schedule; it was need based. The Lions picked up Frampton because Bullocks is on IR and they need a safety. He is not a hack. They did not pick him up to get info, it was need based, and Frampton has some talent.

Caldwell was brought in, he hasn't signed yet. But look at the Jet WRs...it's not like they are loaded with talent; they have a definite need. The story above is just speculation by a reporter.

The Caldwell story is the only one that could be related to the schedule, but it's not etched in stone that it is.

Caldwell upgrading the Jets rec corps!

Why is that ???He had 61 receptions for 760 yards and 4 TDs last year for the Patriots. You don't think he's an MAJOR upgrade over Justin McCariens, Chansi Stuckey or Wallace Wright?

Who else was Brady going to throw to, Troy Brown? Those numbers aren't very impresive for a go to wr1. And yes, I think Justin McCareins is a better WR. I'll agree he's better than thier 4th and 5th wr's but so what.