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Fanduel week 11 (2 Viewers)

Yeah, them.  If they win 3 more games, it would be miraculous.  
Like I said, they given up on this season.  With that said, I'm wholly on board with seeing if Peterman can play before spending an early round pick on a qb.  

The Bills are the most predictable team on earth.  Every Bills fan expected this.  They do some version of this every friggin year. Frustrating as it is as a Bills fan, I'll exploit it for fantasy purposes... and they're about to get trampled.

 
My current Thurs-Mon Gpp

Qb-Ryan

RB- Gordon, Kamara

WR- Julio Jones, B. Cooks, A. Jeffery

TE- J. Cook

Nugent and Chargers

Thoughts?

Also going with

Qb- A. Smith

Rb- Hunt, Kamara

Wr- Sheppard, A. Cooper, B.Cooks

Te- Hooper

Lambo and Chargers D

 
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My current Thurs-Mon Gpp

Qb-Ryan

RB- Gordon, Kamara

WR- Julia Jones, B. Cooks, A. Jeffery

TE- J. Cook

Nugent and Chargers

Thoughts?

Also going with

Qb- A. Smith

Rb- Hunt, Kamara

Wr- Sheppard, A. Cooper, B.Cooks

Te- Hooper

Lambo and Chargers D
Does she have greater upside than Julio?

 
I like them both for the most part. Both have cash appeal and GPP appeal to me. Love gordon, Shepard, Fitzgerald, gronk, Kelce, LAC and Novak this week. Are they for cash or GPP play? in the same tourney? 

Just don't love Fitzpatrick in the first lineup. TB is a dumpster fire right now, line is hurting and can't produce in the running game. Although he does get Mike Evans back this week. Miami's defense is an enigma. If they show up, they are one of the better defenses in the NFL, if they don't, you get what happened on Monday night. I think they can control TB though. 

Ginn worries me in the second one, unless NO is behind, just don't see him being utilized or getting enough targets with how well their run game is working. 
Thanks for the feedback.  I usually use all my lineups in a GPP, 50/50, and 100 man contest.  Fitzpatrick is just cheap with a good matchup and I think getting Evans back helps too.  Gin fit from a price standpoint and I like the matchup.

 
What are you guys thinking we should do with the Rams/Vikes games?  4th highest o/u, 2 pretty good Ds vs. 2 of the better scoring Os in the league.   I think it starts with looking who Rhodes might cover, if anybody.   So maybe Gurley + whatever WR Rhodes isn't on.  On the other side do we go back to those WRs?  Also might be more of a McKinnon game if it is back and forth at all. 

At the very least, I might uses these two PKs 100%.  Indoors, the Ds might limit the RZ trips, and both Ks have been averaging 3+ FG attempts/g over the last few weeks.  
I like Gurley, but only because of the volume.  I also like Kupp, as a Rams WR.  The matchup suggests McKinnon is in play.  I also think both Vikings WR have done enough to be considered too.  Goff might be a sneaky contrarian play this week.  Honestly, in my initial research I overlooked this game and need to consider it more.

 
My first look at RB these are the guys that I thought stood out:  Gurley, Hunt, Ingram, McCoy, Gordon, Kamara, Thompson, Peterson, Howard, Darkwa, Martin, and Lewis.  I need to look more into each matchup, but this the core I am focusing on.  I do like Hunt and I do think the game script sets up well for him this week.  I am also not worried about Ekeler (hoping he scares others away) and I really like Gordon this week to get back on track against a beatable BIlls defense that is traveling across country.
I narrowed my RB core to Gurley, Hunt, Ingram, Gordon, Kamara, Howard, McKinnon, and Burkhead.  I plan to use Gordon about 40% and Hunt about 20%.  Those will be the two RBs I have the most exposure too this week.

 
RB's absolutely killed me last week; the chalk guys, well, they weren't. Just don't know who to trust at this point, outside of Ingram/Kamara. On paper, Gordon should be a good choice. With Rob Kelley going on IR, Thompson should get some increase; so should Perine. But on the road against, NO, would either be a good choice? On paper, I would say 'not for cash'. But this has just been such a screwy year, who knows? 

Are guys like Mixon, Darkwa or Drake in play for cash? RB's just don't excite me much this week - to many question marks. 

 
I like Gurley, but only because of the volume.  I also like Kupp, as a Rams WR.  The matchup suggests McKinnon is in play.  I also think both Vikings WR have done enough to be considered too.  Goff might be a sneaky contrarian play this week.  Honestly, in my initial research I overlooked this game and need to consider it more.
Like I posted above, and you said, I think this game will go low owned and features 2 great Os so we should at least dive deeper with it.  IF what you posted in the bolded is true, that mean Keenum should be considered as well (if his WRs are to be looked at and his pass catching RB).  

Looking at DVOA, it looks like neither Def is worse than 20 at any position, and basically all are in the teens or lower.  Both teams also have OLs in the top 5 as far as pass protection.  Just looking at DVOA the best spots to attack the opposing D on each team looks to be (in order)

  • Minny = Run, Run-rec, and WR1
  • Rams = TE, WR3, WR1


I am not saying that this is a must play game or anything, just throwing out what I was looking at as far as stats and stuff and see if the masses thought anything looked worthwhile.  

This week I just started by writing down the best scoring Os on the year just to see if there were players and games that might be overlooked using them.  They were:  Rams, Philly, NO, NE, KC, Det, Houst, Dallas, Jax, Minn.   The bolded ones have also been tops in scoring recently.  I assume Houst and Dallas will drop off soon due to no Watson and Zeke.  Oak was a team that seemed to be sneaking up the rankings here.  

 
I narrowed my RB core to Gurley, Hunt, Ingram, Gordon, Kamara, Howard, McKinnon, and Burkhead.  I plan to use Gordon about 40% and Hunt about 20%.  Those will be the two RBs I have the most exposure too this week.
I have the non-bolded written down as well and have Ajayi and Thompson on my list as well as White/Lewis.  Gordon is probably the one that will burn me this week, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger.  Howard catches no passes, seems to be very script dependent, and I would think that Det could take the lead on them fairly quickly.  

 
RB's absolutely killed me last week; the chalk guys, well, they weren't. Just don't know who to trust at this point, outside of Ingram/Kamara. On paper, Gordon should be a good choice. With Rob Kelley going on IR, Thompson should get some increase; so should Perine. But on the road against, NO, would either be a good choice? On paper, I would say 'not for cash'. But this has just been such a screwy year, who knows? 

Are guys like Mixon, Darkwa or Drake in play for cash? RB's just don't excite me much this week - to many question marks. 
Broncos D has struggled and everyone has been looking for that first break out game from Mixon.  I am not doubting the talent of him, but the talent around him is not good.  AJ is a pro bowl WR, but most of the other offensive players are just not that good.  The O-line is awful and The Red Rifle is just average.  In my opinion, best case, Mixon produces 90 total yards and 1-TD.  But, more realistically, I think he goes for 60 total yards and no TD.  Just some thoughts from a sad Bengals fan.

 
Like I posted above, and you said, I think this game will go low owned and features 2 great Os so we should at least dive deeper with it.  IF what you posted in the bolded is true, that mean Keenum should be considered as well (if his WRs are to be looked at and his pass catching RB).  

Looking at DVOA, it looks like neither Def is worse than 20 at any position, and basically all are in the teens or lower.  Both teams also have OLs in the top 5 as far as pass protection.  Just looking at DVOA the best spots to attack the opposing D on each team looks to be (in order)

  • Minny = Run, Run-rec, and WR1
  • Rams = TE, WR3, WR1


I am not saying that this is a must play game or anything, just throwing out what I was looking at as far as stats and stuff and see if the masses thought anything looked worthwhile.  

This week I just started by writing down the best scoring Os on the year just to see if there were players and games that might be overlooked using them.  They were:  Rams, Philly, NO, NE, KC, Det, Houst, Dallas, Jax, Minn.   The bolded ones have also been tops in scoring recently.  I assume Houst and Dallas will drop off soon due to no Watson and Zeke.  Oak was a team that seemed to be sneaking up the rankings here.  
The more I look into it.  I will have a Goff and Keenum lineups.  Stacking them with a few key players in the game.

 
I have the non-bolded written down as well and have Ajayi and Thompson on my list as well as White/Lewis.  Gordon is probably the one that will burn me this week, but I just can't seem to pull the trigger.  Howard catches no passes, seems to be very script dependent, and I would think that Det could take the lead on them fairly quickly.  
You might be right about Howard, but I am hoping the Bears D keeps them in it.

 
RB's absolutely killed me last week; the chalk guys, well, they weren't. Just don't know who to trust at this point, outside of Ingram/Kamara. On paper, Gordon should be a good choice. With Rob Kelley going on IR, Thompson should get some increase; so should Perine. But on the road against, NO, would either be a good choice? On paper, I would say 'not for cash'. But this has just been such a screwy year, who knows? 

Are guys like Mixon, Darkwa or Drake in play for cash? RB's just don't excite me much this week - to many question marks. 
I am starting to wonder if the play was to do Thurs-Mon cash this week to get Bell in the mix and Coleman on the cheap with Freeman out.  

Everybody hates to play them, but I would probably think about a Pats RB in cash this week.  They might not get you 25 for a gpp, but all 3 are cheap and have been 2xing consistently the past few weeks.  (especially if they are scratching Gilleslee again).  Doing something like NO RB + Burkhead gets you basically whatever else you want - I have placeholder with Ingram + Burkhead then Smith/Kelce, Fitz, Crabtree, Shepard and have 700 left over.  , 

 
You might be right about Howard, but I am hoping the Bears D keeps them in it.
I will fully admit that part of my musings and rankings are about me getting burnt by some of these guys over and over.  Howard killed me last week, and he is in a worse spot this week and I am just about done with Gordon, Fournette, McCoy,  and Hunt.  That doesn't leave me with a whole lot. ;)

 
The more I look into it.  I will have a Goff and Keenum lineups.  Stacking them with a few key players in the game.
I am still not sure what I am doing with it, but the game does draw my eye a tad.  Like I said, these 2 PKs are very much in play too if nothing else and they might actually be in 100% of my LUs.  What I was leaning towards this morning is maybe mixing this game in with the higher owned games.  So if I have a Brady or Smith stack, maybe sprinkle in McKinnon or Watkins.  If I have Hunt, Kamara, Kelce in a LU, maybe go with a Keenum-Diggs stack.  

 
I am starting to wonder if the play was to do Thurs-Mon cash this week to get Bell in the mix and Coleman on the cheap with Freeman out.  

Everybody hates to play them, but I would probably think about a Pats RB in cash this week.  They might not get you 25 for a gpp, but all 3 are cheap and have been 2xing consistently the past few weeks.  (especially if they are scratching Gilleslee again).  Doing something like NO RB + Burkhead gets you basically whatever else you want - I have placeholder with Ingram + Burkhead then Smith/Kelce, Fitz, Crabtree, Shepard and have 700 left over.  , 
I usually play the Thu-Mon slat with a couple of lineups.  I plan to use several Thu guys and Coleman, Monday night.

 
I will fully admit that part of my musings and rankings are about me getting burnt by some of these guys over and over.  Howard killed me last week, and he is in a worse spot this week and I am just about done with Gordon, Fournette, McCoy,  and Hunt.  That doesn't leave me with a whole lot. ;)
I know what you mean.  I have trouble playing guys that have killed me in the past...yeah, I am talking about you Mr. Russell Wilson!  Gordon has made that list for me and I think he is in a prime spot this week.  I do not like Howard on the same level and may even re-consider on him completely before Sunday.

 
I think I may be drunk, looking hard at a NYG super stack for a GPP LU

[hiccup]

Not sure I can get away from Brady as a cash QB and really want to pair him with Gronk as well.  This could be a week where my cash LU core and some of my GPP LU cores are the same.

Just starting but know I will have

Brady/Bell/Shep/Gronk/Lutz/Jax as a core

 
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Who's on the Blaine Gabbert train?  Houston has been getting shredded lately.
It does open up a ton.  I might have to throw one LU in there.  I put this in as a marker as a build that I liked:

Gabbert - Kamara/Ajayi - Hill/Evans/Fitz -Gronk - Forbath - Chargers.  

ETA:  one thing I don't love is that every podcast seems to be touting him, so he might just end up higher owned than guys like Cousins, Keenum, etc..  

 
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FatNate said:
The more I look into it.  I will have a Goff and Keenum lineups.  Stacking them with a few key players in the game.
@FatNate - one thing to keep in mind that I keep seeing and hearing over and over is that you fade Goff vs. tougher Ds and fire him up vs. bad Ds, so we might want to consider not using him much.  

 
Current cash L/U, subject to change - I suppose:

QB/Smith, RB/Ingram - Darkwa, WR/Hopkins - LFitz - Landry, TE/Kelce, K/Novak, DEF/N.O.

Nothing I've been trying to run through the IVC is coming up anywhere close to the 120 point mark I try to use as a benchmark, but, I'll keep playing around some more

 
Guys I like this week:

Alex Smith - Giants terrible vs. the pass
Derek Carr - This looks like a shootout and NE defense still soft
Ryan Fitzpatrick - Not excited to own him heavily, but Miami generous to QBs
Leonard Fournette - I think he gets 30 carries for 150 yards and two TDs - worth his price
Dion Lewis & Rex Burkhead - Oakland can't stop RBs
Jerick McKinnon - Mediocre last week, but I think he'll rebound
Larry Fitzgerald - We know how bad the Houston secondary is
Mike Evans - Should be angry and heavily targeted
Cooper Kupp - Robert Woods will be heavily owned, but I think Kupp will continue to get a lot of targets
Kyle Rudolph - Underrated, and seems to get consistent targets
Travis Kelce - Worth every penny vs. a Giants team that can't cover TEs
Chicago D - They are better at home, and this feels like a letdown game for Detroit

 
Guys I like this week:

Alex Smith - Giants terrible vs. the pass
Derek Carr - This looks like a shootout and NE defense still soft
Ryan Fitzpatrick - Not excited to own him heavily, but Miami generous to QBs
Leonard Fournette - I think he gets 30 carries for 150 yards and two TDs - worth his price
Dion Lewis & Rex Burkhead - Oakland can't stop RBs
Jerick McKinnon - Mediocre last week, but I think he'll rebound
Larry Fitzgerald - We know how bad the Houston secondary is
Mike Evans - Should be angry and heavily targeted
Cooper Kupp - Robert Woods will be heavily owned, but I think Kupp will continue to get a lot of targets
Kyle Rudolph - Underrated, and seems to get consistent targets
Travis Kelce - Worth every penny vs. a Giants team that can't cover TEs
Chicago D - They are better at home, and this feels like a letdown game for Detroit
I think the only one I really disagree on is Fournette.  That Cleveland rush D is no joke, and have been solid all year.  

 
I've cooled on fournette, even more with being limited in practice. Just looks like his touches will be limited if/when they get up early. Don't love the possibility of his ceiling getting capped at his price. I'd rather go leveon in the T-M and gurley in the main slate. Haven't faded him completely, but he isn't in 1/4 of my lineups anymore. Maybe 2 or 3 out of 20. 1 paired with lambo and jags DST in a "domination" gpp lineup. 

 
FatNate said:
I usually play the Thu-Mon slat with a couple of lineups.  I plan to use several Thu guys and Coleman, Monday night.
I used Brown last night and I am very happy with his 37pts, but those people that used Boswell and Steelers D got the real advantage.

 
Nice! I had a lineup with Bell. Was going to put AB inone lineup but opted not to. I have to hope for Hunt to have a major game as most people that rostered AB likely didnt roster Hunt
Also have GPP sitting at 127-Ben/Bell/DMurray/AB/RMath/Boswell with Crowder/Rudolph and Jax D left

 
I filled in my Thu-Mon with a couple guys from the Monday night game and the rest from Sunday.  I glad I avoided Bell and I am interested to see how this lineup works out for me.

 
Anyone using Cole (WR-Jax) or Ellington (WR-Ari)?  I have them each loaded in one lineup.  Any other values out there that I am missing?

 
Anyone using Cole (WR-Jax) or Ellington (WR-Ari)?  I have them each loaded in one lineup.  Any other values out there that I am missing?
I have Cole and MLewis in several GPP LUs, but I'm a Jags homer so take that into account.

I do believe you will see the Jags take some early shots down field off of play action to both Cole and DeDe, you just have to hope they connect, it would only take that one reception for either to make 2X

 
I have Cole and MLewis in several GPP LUs, but I'm a Jags homer so take that into account.

I do believe you will see the Jags take some early shots down field off of play action to both Cole and DeDe, you just have to hope they connect, it would only take that one reception for either to make 2X
Would M.Lewis be in play since we are talking about Cleveland D?

 
Would M.Lewis be in play since we are talking about Cleveland D?
He's always in play as he is on the field for virtually every offensive snap, he's not going to get volume but he will several targets and most of them will be red zone targets.

He is a huge risk, but, as he did in London, he can get multiple TD reception in any game.

 
Anyone using Cole (WR-Jax) or Ellington (WR-Ari)?  I have them each loaded in one lineup.  Any other values out there that I am missing?
I am curious what your LUs are around them that you went that low on WR.  He's not nearly that low, but I keep landing on Crowder (5.4) 

For whatever reason, my value spot keeps ending up being the RB2 this week, so I haven't been dipping too low at WR3.  Seems like everybody is talking about Rex now, so I think some possible value pivots from him are either of the other 2 Pats RBs,  and maybe a Mia RB or A.Collins?

TEs I had written down to look into if needed were:  Gresham, Kroft, M.Lewis, and Watson. 

 
I am curious what your LUs are around them that you went that low on WR.  He's not nearly that low, but I keep landing on Crowder (5.4) 

For whatever reason, my value spot keeps ending up being the RB2 this week, so I haven't been dipping too low at WR3.  Seems like everybody is talking about Rex now, so I think some possible value pivots from him are either of the other 2 Pats RBs,  and maybe a Mia RB or A.Collins?

TEs I had written down to look into if needed were:  Gresham, Kroft, M.Lewis, and Watson. 
Something like:

Smith-Hunt-Gordon-Jeffery-Cooks-Cole-Engram-Chargers-Nugent

 
I am curious what your LUs are around them that you went that low on WR.  He's not nearly that low, but I keep landing on Crowder (5.4) 

For whatever reason, my value spot keeps ending up being the RB2 this week, so I haven't been dipping too low at WR3.  Seems like everybody is talking about Rex now, so I think some possible value pivots from him are either of the other 2 Pats RBs,  and maybe a Mia RB or A.Collins?

TEs I had written down to look into if needed were:  Gresham, Kroft, M.Lewis, and Watson. 
I like Burkhead this week and I also like Kroft.  Patriot RBs always make me nervous and if the Broncos pressure Andy it could be a long day, but I do like both plays.

 
Something like:

Smith-Hunt-Gordon-Jeffery-Cooks-Cole-Engram-Chargers-Nugent
:thumbup:   I like that.  

What I am staring at now is if there might be cheap and/or underowned ways into a couple of these games that everybody might like.  

In the Wash/NO game I am looking at Cousins/Crowder/Davis (IF I think something like that might be a good play, that would mean Brees probably should be in a couple LUs too).   In the Oak/NE I am debating how silly it is to pair Brady with 2 of the RBs for low ownership.  Maybe Dak + Witten and/or a lower $ WR.  

Something I put in as another place holder that combines a KC/Giants and Wash/No game stack:  Cousins - Thompson/Kamara - Crowder/Hill/Shepard - Kelce - Greg Z - Broncos.  Could easily get Gronk or Ertz in there instead, and Brees is cheaper than Cousins, so that is an easy pivot too.  

The Brady onslaught would be something like Brady - White/Lewis - Gronk - Forbath - 4.7D and then I could put basically whatever WRs I would want in.  (placeholder has Evans/Diggs/Hill in the LU)

 
I like Burkhead this week and I also like Kroft.  Patriot RBs always make me nervous and if the Broncos pressure Andy it could be a long day, but I do like both plays.
They vulture off each other a bit, but on a team that can put up 40+ just about any week, IMO they all could be looked at in gpps ( if Gilleslee sits again), especially with Hogan out and Amendola looking hobbled.  They are then down to Cooks, Gronk, and Rbs.  Here is how I look at them (not sure if this is true): Burkhead has been getting more and more work in both phases, so that is why he has been talked about more, and is probably safer for a cheap cash option.  Oddly, D.Lewis hasn't been getting receiving targets, so he seems to be more of the Gilleslee back right now, and White is still more the 3rd down/pass catcher.  So I think Burkhead can be used no matter how you think the game goes.  IF you think the Pats can jump up huge and the Raiders aren't making it a back and forth game, Lewis seems to be an option.  IF you think it's going to be a back and forth game, White probably becomes more of an option.  

 
Still tinkering...

Gabbert - Hunt/Kamara - Jeffrey/Hopkins/Fitzgerald - Cook - Lutz - Jags

Brady - Hunt/Kamara - Jeffrey/Fitzgerald/Shepard (or Lee) - Cook - Lambo - Ravens 

Was trying to get Wentz into that bottom LU, but need to find another $100.  I like the WR group with Jags D that Gabbert allows.  Also thought about using Marcedes Lewis at TE.  That would save $700...Hmmmmm.

 
Still tinkering...

Gabbert - Hunt/Kamara - Jeffrey/Hopkins/Fitzgerald - Cook - Lutz - Jags

Brady - Hunt/Kamara - Jeffrey/Fitzgerald/Shepard (or Lee) - Cook - Lambo - Ravens 

Was trying to get Wentz into that bottom LU, but need to find another $100.  I like the WR group with Jags D that Gabbert allows.  Also thought about using Marcedes Lewis at TE.  That would save $700...Hmmmmm.
@Galileo - this is for cash, right?

IF you really want Wentz in that bottom LU, I would consider a different D to free up space.  I think the Chargers are the chalk D on the week for cash - 4.3, great pass rush vs. bad OL vs. rookie Qb in his first start.  It would also free up a couple buck for a higher $ K if you want (I saw on spot say something about possible wind situation in Cleveland).  It could get you something like Wentz-Forbath-Chargers.  

 
@Galileo - this is for cash, right?

IF you really want Wentz in that bottom LU, I would consider a different D to free up space.  I think the Chargers are the chalk D on the week for cash - 4.3, great pass rush vs. bad OL vs. rookie Qb in his first start.  It would also free up a couple buck for a higher $ K if you want (I saw on spot say something about possible wind situation in Cleveland).  It could get you something like Wentz-Forbath-Chargers.  
Yes...cash.  Good call on kicker.  I am in CLE...calling for wind (23 mph with gusts up to 60 mph) and 2-4" of lake effect snow on Sunday.  I hadn't checked any weather yet.  I suspect the snow will mainly be east of the city in the snow belt.  I doubt the snow will be significant downtown, but that wind can wreck havoc.  I am only going to play one LU, and I think I am actually leaning towards the Gabbert one with the Jax D.

 
Yes...cash.  Good call on kicker.  I am in CLE...calling for wind (23 mph with gusts up to 60 mph) and 2-4" of lake effect snow on Sunday.  I hadn't checked any weather yet.  I suspect the snow will mainly be east of the city in the snow belt.  I doubt the snow will be significant downtown, but that wind can wreck havoc.  I am only going to play one LU, and I think I am actually leaning towards the Gabbert one with the Jax D.
If that's the case, I would also look into Hopkins.  No Fuller, and I think the assumption is that Peterson will take out Hopkins. 

 
Starting to like Crowder more and more for cash game.  A big # of targets seem to be coming his way.  Already was getting a sizable workload and  WAS missing other notable targets...

 
Starting to like Crowder more and more for cash game.  A big # of targets seem to be coming his way.  Already was getting a sizable workload and  WAS missing other notable targets...
Crowder and sterling Shepard seem to be in a good chunk of my lineups. Sometimes together and sometimes not. But for their combined price, I like what I can do other places. 

Didnt have one earlier, but gonna do a cousins/crowder/Davis stack with the jags 

 

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