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Fanduel week 14 (1 Viewer)
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BassNBrew
Footballguy
At the moment 109 is cashing is a gpp and 116 isn't in a 50/50.
Got 7 of 9 through in the crossover. One is 3 pts and 250 spots down with Elliott and one is 9 points up and 750 positions up with nothing. Looks like 1/3 of the teams are done so the 9 pt up team has about a 12-14 pt cushion.
Got 7 of 9 through in the crossover. One is 3 pts and 250 spots down with Elliott and one is 9 points up and 750 positions up with nothing. Looks like 1/3 of the teams are done so the 9 pt up team has about a 12-14 pt cushion.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
The 5882 to 4000 cut right now is at 82.56. I think the next cut for the soccer portion is 1500 and you double your $2 to $4. I'm hoping that a good number of people forget to enter lineups for the next phase. One thing I've learned about soccer is that there isn't much information out there and it's easy to get stung with coaches resting good players after the lock for the games later in the slate.
Church of Iggy Pop
Footballguy
I can't believe how much bankroll I have pissed away on Wilson shares over the last three weeks.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Good thing he's not on the main slate next week so people aren't tempted to take him as the lowly Rams come to town..
monster day.
1pm (144) and main slate (162) cash games lineups cashed 100%.
min crushed the $1 tourney for like 2x.
7th out of 147k for $1100 in the big $2 1pm tournament.
got some chances at reasonable money tomorrow night too. 151, 145, 142, 138, 136, 135, 133 plus brady/mitchell.
1pm (144) and main slate (162) cash games lineups cashed 100%.
min crushed the $1 tourney for like 2x.
7th out of 147k for $1100 in the big $2 1pm tournament.
got some chances at reasonable money tomorrow night too. 151, 145, 142, 138, 136, 135, 133 plus brady/mitchell.
Congrats
Looks like I will take small lose, mostly due to bad cash LUs in the Thur-Mon slate
$450 in $422 out
Cashed in 2 of 4 $25 GPPs
Both main slate cash LUs hit 100%, with 154.54 and 137.24
Cashed in 1 of 3 $10 100 player leagues
Cashed 2 of 3 $5 100 player leagues
Cashed a few $2 and $5 GPPs but lost more here than I won
lmack
Footballguy
LU1 - 146.24
LU2 - 110.16
(pivoted from Bailey to Hopkins)LU3 - 61.8 :X - worst showing of the year.
I played all 3 at:
2
40%
3
26%
5
17%
100
11%
GPP
6%
The tiered, cash+ approach bailed me out htis week. LU1 cashed all entries and paid out exactly what I entered $ wise on the main slate. Little bit behind based on my Thu-Mon, hoping to come out around even on the week. Think I'm going back to 2 main slate LUs next week.
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looks like i got your rungood for this week lol. will give it back in time for next sunday...
try just 1 lineup. gamble less and use the other slates for differentiation if you have to. you will feel better about it.LU1 - 146.24
LU2 - 110.16
LU3 - 61.8 :X - worst showing of the year.
I played all 3 at:
2
40%
3
26%
5
17%
100
11%
GPP
6%
The tiered, cash+ approach bailed me out htis week. LU1 cashed all entries and paid out exactly what I entered $ wise on the main slate. Little bit behind based on my Thu-Mon, hoping to come out around even on the week. Think I'm going back to 2 main slate LUs next week.
Raging weasel
Footballguy
weird week 0-3 in 50/50 3-0 in gpp and in the $$ in thu-mon gpp with edelman/gost. Will finish up $2 plus whatever tonights does(currently $3)
best lineup 153.04 in a 100man that was good for 8th.
best lineup 153.04 in a 100man that was good for 8th.
lmack
Footballguy
Yeah, I could see the value in that.
Looking back on the thread/expert buzz, if you were to build one and only one LU, it would've likely been the spend at RB, cheap at WR core, e.g. DJ/Bell/Sanders/Taylor Gabriel
Maybe that's some unfair post hoc analysis to assume I would've came to that, but it's always easy to see the Sunday plays on Monday morning
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Guess my feeling was spot on. None of my straight GPP LU's hit anything. Lost about 50% of what I had in play. Not horrible as I'm still at a nice spot, I just like winning.Not feeling so great heading into today. Sometimes that's a good sign.
1pm:
#1 Luck, DJ, Bell, Ginn, Tate, Crowder, Ertz, Prater, MIN :( 132.8, nice score but only cashed 2 of 3 5050s and nothing else
Cousins, DJ, Hill, Hilton, Tate, D.Jackson, Walker, Prater, CIN :( , loser
Main:
Newton, Gore, Bell, Evans, Fitz, Gabriel, Eifert, Aguayo, MIN138.6, but didn't hit 3x, 5x, or 100-man
Cousins, DJ, Bell, Cooks, Sanders, Crowder, Brate, Prater, DET
#1 Wilson, DJ, Hill, Nelson, Tate, Gabriel, Graham, Vinatieri, CIN :X 106.4
podunker
Footballguy
I have been pretty much doing this all year, all you have to do is hit on 1 of 3 and you win your money back. I mix the 3 LU between Thur/Mon-Sun Only-Sun/Mon slates.LU1 - 146.24
LU2 - 110.16
LU3 - 61.8 :X - worst showing of the year.
I played all 3 at:
2
40%
3
26%
5
17%
100
11%
GPP
6%
The tiered, cash+ approach bailed me out htis week. LU1 cashed all entries and paid out exactly what I entered $ wise on the main slate. Little bit behind based on my Thu-Mon, hoping to come out around even on the week. Think I'm going back to 2 main slate LUs next week.
I have pretty much the same week as you so far, my Sun Only scored a whopping 63. My Sun/Mon is setting at 139 with doing well with Edel to go. My Thur/Mon is setting at 120 with with Mitchell to go. Should make some money this week.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
So let me get this straight, @podunker and @sooted72 use multiple LU's, but only 1 per slate? Do you generally/usually fade TNF and MNF?
I rarely have my #### together to put a full host of LU's in on Thursday. So I'd be down to Sun Only, Sun-Mon, and 1pm Only if I wanted to use just 3 LU's (versus the 5 I posted above, which is what I've been doing lately, with somewhat success).
Does anyone else use that strategy, one LU per slate?
I rarely have my #### together to put a full host of LU's in on Thursday. So I'd be down to Sun Only, Sun-Mon, and 1pm Only if I wanted to use just 3 LU's (versus the 5 I posted above, which is what I've been doing lately, with somewhat success).
Does anyone else use that strategy, one LU per slate?
Yeah, I could see the value in that.
Looking back on the thread/expert buzz, if you were to build one and only one LU, it would've likely been the spend at RB, cheap at WR core, e.g. DJ/Bell/Sanders/Taylor Gabriel
Maybe that's some unfair post hoc analysis to assume I would've came to that, but it's always easy to see the Sunday plays on Monday morning
so this wont show up in the math at all. as a matter of fact, the math will prove the opposite...
what everybody will tell you is to diversify and use multiple lineups. and, again, the math obviously agrees with that. theyll say things like 'theres no difference between your best lineup and your 2nd and 3rd best lineup' so use all 3 to diversify. and obv this is true too. statistically you cant argue with it...
but what ive found when ive diversified is that its just ended up costing me money. now this may all just be small sample size statistically insignificant noise. but there also may be something here. the thing that disturbs me most when i diversify my cash game lineups is that i end up using guys that im just not as comfortable with as the guys in my main lineup. now ive probably been unlucky in that my diversification lineups have sunk me a bunch but its also true that i would be much further ahead had i just played the lineup i liked the most every week.
i think the peace of mind is worth something. i want to just use my one best lineup and ride or die with it. its definitely higher variance. but variance doesnt really affect ev. i mean with my style i have to be ok with my rb tearing his acl on the first play and sinking all my lineups by 1:15. which is bound to happen given the nature of the nfl.
like ive said tons on here i get my diversification through other slates, mainly the 1 pm slate but also occasionally sun-mon.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Are you playing at Dodd's volume? or even close to it? If not then you are better off sticking to one or two cash LUs for any slate that you choose. I typically have $150-200 in play cash and will never use more that 2 cash LUs in a particular slate, typically I do the Thur-Mon slate and the Sunday main for cash, all other slates are strictly GPP
If you are playing any type off volume in GPPs I simply can't get behind this process for LU construction, they are very different types of LUs. I rarely use stacks in my cash LUs but almost always use them in GPP as an example of how different they are.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Not at all. I'm about half of you. I'm still tinkering with getting it right with the amount I play....and lowering down to one 1pm Only, and two main slate LUs, seems like it might be the answer.
Why play cash in the 1pm only's?? Especially when the strong cash RBs are playing late, IMHO you are better off playing cash in the main slate only or maybe the Thur-Mon slate if there is/are players in the Thur night game you really like for cash.
One of the reasons I play cash in the Thur--Mon slate is you can all by eliminate the MNF game players from it as they will be minimally owned, so if the TNF game matchup is a favorable one I go equally on that slate and the mail slate cash wise.
I assume you are getting most of your cash in the $1 and $2 100 player 50/50s right?
but now that you mention it i also get diversification through gpps. so if there was a wr i really liked but couldnt fit into my cash lineup i can get like 40% exposure in gpps and still benefit if he does well. thats another way to diversify without 'weakening' your cash lineup.
yeah my cash lineup had all 4 of those guys so not really post hoc analysis.Looking back on the thread/expert buzz, if you were to build one and only one LU, it would've likely been the spend at RB, cheap at WR core, e.g. DJ/Bell/Sanders/Taylor Gabriel
Maybe that's some unfair post hoc analysis to assume I would've came to that, but it's always easy to see the Sunday plays on Monday morning
Exactly, play hunches/feelings/tingles whatevers in your GPPs, it's low cost risk with high rewards. I'm referring to large multiple entry GPPs of course, single entry or large dollar GPPs can be treated as cash LUs in your are looking to cash rather than win, With my Sunday 1.5 Million tickets I usually treat half as cash and half as GPPs.
$10 and up 100 player leagues I treat as GPPs as well but for $5 dollars I treat as cash
Bobcat10
Footballguy
I've had success in the past on the shorter, 1pm slate.
$1 and $2 contests in 5050s, 2x, 3x, 5x, 20 or 100 mans, and I'll toss in a gpp. That's the Dodds model I was referring to. I don't think you have to play thousands of dollars like Dodds to run a lineup out in that fashion.
Dodd plays his 50/50s differently than he does his 2-5Xs if I'm not mistaken, he often stacks QB/WR or RB/Def in the multipliers
statistically there wont be much difference, so in that sense it doesnt 'hurt'. like your top 3 cash game lineups might be projected for, say, 130.3, 129.5, 129.2. but for me its that sinking feeling that the 2nd and 3rd lineups have guys that im not as comfortable with as the guys in my #1 lineup. thats the main reason i changed my playing style.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Ok, so I'm assuming your point of all this is 2-5x are not "cash" games and I didn't catch on til right now?Megla said:
I often stack in that regard. If you think the lineup will cash 2-5x and 100-mans, isn't putting it in 5050s sort of hedging in case you get stuck in between the 5050 cuts and the 2/3x cuts? Or maybe you reach the 3x level but not the 5x level? I don't really see the issue doing this.
But anyways, after all these posts, I still don't understand why you think it would be wise for people like me to avoid the 1pm slate. It's not like a 2 or 3 game NBA slate or Thanksgiving Day NFL.
No worries, I was just responded to you original post about single LUs in each slate. If you are having success playing the way you are then just ignore my replies, I'm not here to argue, just to offer my thoughts on DSF matters.
When you use a smaller pool of players, 1pm slate, then by the very nature of variance you are limiting your room for error as more owners will have the players you have. Using the Sunday slate gives you more options, as it does others, so as a good player you gain an advantage as other owners have more bad options.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
I'm right with you.
For some reason it works for me. I think it was last season where it was by far my best slate. What I probably do wrong is build my 1pm Only first, then move on to the Main slate. I'll overlap a guy if I really like him, but trying to differentiate the slates sometimes gets tricky. It helps if I have a high cost QB and a mid/low cost QB in opposite slates, it drives you to different choices most of the time.
I also have a very hard time making lineup decisions when guys are so close, hence wanting 5 LU's when I should have 2-3 LU's.
Is there an overall strategy thread? If not it's probably overdue.
won another 1100 tonight with that last brady td pass worth $500. sick weekend. wish i could cash nba though :/
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Nice
NBA is kicking my butt tonight
Looking at a cash LU at 300+ only cashing around 25%
Bobcat10
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
of course I didn't write them down, but I remember seeing that a bit this year and wondering the same thing - why am I playing cash?
