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He's probably pissed because he wants a cut from the websites that use his name. I can see it being compared to Lars Ulrich wanting a cut from Napster.
It was Plummer. He was saying that FF has ruined the fans, not the game. He's not totally off-base.
Yes, that was his point. That people care more about the player's stats than if the team won the game.
? It seems to me that the NFL is doing pretty well.
Not only that, he probably owned himself. Double whammy--he lost his starting job and his fantasy team stinks because he doesn't have a good qb.He's probably mad because he has been dropped in every league including the one he is in ; )
My feelings are the exact opposite.
Seems to me free agency lines up really well with rooting for the player over the team...Just speaking for myself, I watch a lot more NFL football now than I did before I started playing fantasy football. I used to watch the Cowboys and the Oilers and a few other games involving 2 good teams. I quite often watch games now that I wouldn't have in the past so I can get a look at players to help me make my fantasy teams better. Is that type of behavior that is supposedly ruining the NFL?What type of data is out there that indicates that the NFL is going in the
I've said that many times. I think I need a break from ff but I'm in a dynasty league so it is difficult to walk away. If it weren't for the fact that the other league owners are my friends and we talk more during the season I think I would take a break. I like watching football, not players.
Agreed. FF players are in vogue with sportscasting right now, they are more vocal as a group during the season and off, and for the most part, care more about how individuals play vs. the team as a whole.I, for one, who rather be part of a Steelers Super Bowl victory over a fantasy league victory any day. On game day, I cheer the Steelers on, no matter how affects fantasy outcomes.
Yeah, but that only leaves week 17 for me
If he wants Bronco fans to get all excited when their team is 2-2(or 3-1 or whatever) after 4 games, it ain't happennin'.Yes every game is meaningful each week but they sure don't always seem it. Before December, there's just a couple each week that "everyone" has their eye on. If we used LT, I'd bet there's a bunch of Charger fans that "at the water cooler" talked about his 4 TDs not necessarily about the win.Until December, NFL regular season is like the NBA regular season.
Agreed. Guys like Plummer are complaining all the way to the bank. FF has brought in huge sums of money to the league.
Why? So fantasy geeks and oddsmakers can get a fair shake? The NFL should go the other way, and let teams keep mum on who's hurt and who's not right up until game time. Keep teams guessing on who they need to prepare for during the week. The NFL oughtta tell us fantasy fools to go phvck ourselves.
Now I get to root for my Jets without hoping Ronnie Brown scores against them ... ugh, talk about a conflict of interestNi
I think that's when you know FF has gone too far for us - when you root for certain players against your favorite team. I try to avoid that at all costs, but admittedly I often have to remind myself.
When the Bears are winning, I feel the exact same way. But since they've been terrible for most of my life, ff has given me a reason to be happy when my real team is terrible. I've had this conflict for a number of years. At the end of each fantasy season, I'm ready for a long break.
Interesting. I wonder when he's going to realize that those fantasy football fans who only care about the stats wouldn't care at all about his team without Fantasy football. His team would still have the same loyal, mostly local, fanbase (which is still there, by the way) but the larger millions of people across the nation and around the world who care about FF would just stop caring about his Broncos altogether. Maybe he thinks that would be preferable because there wouldn't be as many extraneous questions and external pressures, but I guess he fails to realize that our ratings and such pay a good portion of his salary. My interest in the Ravens is as a fan. I have an interest in football in general and would watch a fair amount anyway, but my keen interest in and attention to 31 of the 32 teams, and my willingness to sit through a lot of bad matchups and blowouts is mostly because of FF. I have a feeling this is not an uncommon approach among FF fans.
Can we add halftime and pregame music acts to the list? Has there ever been a good one?
I thought John Fogerty was good during the early Thanksgiving game, but I agree overall.
One John Fogerty performance was more than enough. Seein that geezer twice was just unforgivable.
As a SF fan, I can agree with each of your points. I think that free agency + the salary is the biggest issue. Oustside of a few unique circumstances (e.g. Colts) the overall quality of offensive football has come down. I understand there were issues with the haves and have-nots in the non salary cap era, but to me the NFL level of football should be about teams pushing the envelope of perfomance as a team. The quality of players is still great, but the constant movement and constraints of the cap mean a good D and a low mistake offense are the best recipe for success. Most teams just don't have the luxury of developing a complex offense with the players constantly coming and going.I'm pretty sure my interest in the NFL would be on the decline compared to college football if it wasn't for fantasy. I have no doubt FF is a HUGE part of the NFL's current popularity. So all of the players and old school people in the sports media should be embracing fantasy football. Otherwise, they'd be getting paid a lot less.
I agree with some of your points, but alot is not the current regimes fault. Jack Kent Cooke put that stadium out there, I hate going there, parking sucks, traffic blows I wish the stadium was in DC, but lots of stadiums have moved out into the suburbs.FedEx field has become a bit corporate I don't like that, but I also understand that money goes to aquiring players and paying coaches salaries. Dan Snyder is a lot of things, but I love how he will do what ever it takes to bring a title back to DC, sooner or later I think he will figure out the right combo.I don't think you will see Portis complaining about a restructure of his contract. His cap hit will be so high next year or the following year, they will restucture, pay him a bunch in bonus money and knock his cap hit down to next to nothing. If anything FA should help the Redskins since we keep trading all of our draft picks away :(
so true, so true.I've got a bye this week so I can actually watch the games "normally"
The first few years I had the ticket I would madly switch channels to whoever was in the redzone. I eventually realized I wasn't enjoying it much and I had no idea what had really happened in any game.Now, I usually pick out the most interesting game of the week and watch that game except commercials. I also watch most of my team's games (SF) until I can't take the crappiness anymore. I keep NFL.com and my Live scoring up to keep tabs on my fantasy games. Another thing that helped bring back the enjoyment is being in a lot of fantasy leagues. Now if a guy scores a TD, it's for me in one league it's again' me in another, so there's no point in trying to flip around and keep tabs on it. Championship games with big $ on the line are the only time I revert to old form.
Since you're already heading to Landover, Just keep driving about 35 miles farther north for a much better experience.
You can probably get home to DC quicker than you could from a Washington game where the only thing resembling a parking lot near the stadium is the beltway. The atmosphere is good, the team is well run. Top notch operation. As for #5, I think Washington is particularly prone to this because Snyder chases the almighty dollar so hard. However, there's some of this in every arena and every sport. I've had the chance to sit with a friend who has Ravens tickets between the 40s behind the bench. It's an awesome view of the game, but I felt like I had to sit on my hands to fit in with the crowd whose businesses can afford those seats. I have much more fun in my end-zone seats.[applause]i agree. FF is too stressful and does take some of the enjoyment out of just rooting for your NFL team to do well. life was so much simpler before FF
I've seen that too. And I've even caught myself not cheering, but suddenly being very able to see the bright side of, for example, Hines Ward having to undergo surgery. Plummer makes a legitimate point. FF has changed what it's like to be a fan, and it's not all good.
Yeah, my team didn't make the playoffs. I sure am going to miss seeing the players at practice. I think I will bring them in a little earlier next year for conditioning, I believe lack of conditioning contributed to our 3 game skid. I also need to move some players to try and improve team chemistry. It is going to be a long offseason.The only "team" I root for is my Fantasy squad. I could care less about the league other than fantasy. It's a way for me to line my pockets, so I'm interested.
I haven't had any rooting interest in any sports teams since my teens. That's roughly 20 years ago. I found more important endeavors to dedicate my passions to.
This is no knock on diehard "fans", just the way I see/go about things. If it wasn't for Fantasy Football, none of it would matter.
I do this too, though I've stopped having my live scoring up for my fantasy leagues. I find it helps me enjoy a single game if I'm not continually checking on my fantasy team. I do check two or three times during the game, but not watching it constantly helps.I've thought about giving up FF for a season to just enjoy football, but I have the same problem as others have said about dynasty and keeper leagues.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/7868647Unless I've got NFL economics wrong, part of this extra revenue goes to up the salary cap, thus increasing salaries across the board. Gee, an extra $700M/yr.
BINGO!!I ONLY get Direct Tv AND the Superfan/Ticket BECAUSE of fantasy Football. Do the NFL schedule makers/head honchos think I give a rats %$# about Arizona vs Detroit? No way, I own Bolden/Kitna etc and watch that game. And pay to do it.
these guys get it...
Yep, his point was the fans are now just like the players.I say good for us, we learned it from the players and owners.
