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Final Pre-Draft rankings of 2009 Rookie class (Updated 3/28/09)

You realize Pat White will be a day 1 pick? You have him ~WR30.

 

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In taking one final look at each offensive skill position before the draft, I've decided to write a blurb about my top prospects...

QBs >80 Potential fantasy stud, 80-65 Potential fantasy starter, <65 Potential fantasy backup

1. Matthew Stafford, Georgia*, 6'2¼", 225, 4.84

Scouting Report: Ideal arm strength; Very confident; Needs work on footwork and touch throws

What to expect in his prime: Jay Cutler circa 2008

Comments: Similar to Cutler in several facets of the game. If asked to play in Year 1, it shouldn't hurt his development too much. He has the intangibles and talent of many productive gunslinging QBs in the past inlcuding Favre, Cutler, etc.

Overall Rating: 73

2. Mark Sanchez, USC*, 6'2⅛", 227, 4.88

Scouting Report: Ideal quick release; Great leadership qualities; Inexperienced; Lacks ideal arm strength

What to expect in his prime: Tom Brady circa 2003

Comments: A great prototype for a WCO-leading QB. The big knock against this guy is that there isn't much of a precendent of QBs having so few starts before being drafted in the 1st round of the NFL draft. If he sits a full season and gets a handful of NFL preseason games under his belt, he should be able to eventually put up Romo or Aaron Rodgers numbers with a good supporting cast.

Overall Rating: 71

3. Josh Freeman, Kansas State*, 6'5¾", 248, 4.97

Scouting Report: Ideal size and arm strength; Very agile for his size; Needs work on mental lapses, reading defenses

What to expect in his prime: Warren Moon circa 1987

Comments: A boom-or-bust candidate with Daunte Culpepper upside and Daunte Culpepper downside. Given his need to learn how to read defenses, it's safe to say Freeman ideally would not follow JaMarcus Russell's path in becoming an NFL starter. Great coaching could do wonders for him as he has the potential to put up fantasy starter numbers in the ideal scenario.

Overall Rating: 66

RBs >90 Potential fantasy stud, 90-65 Potential fantasy starter, <65 Potential fantasy backup1. Knowshon Moreno, Georgia**, 5'10⅝", 217, 4.63

Scouting Report: Tremendous motor; Lack of top end speed; May not have ideal frame for running style

What to expect in his prime: Clinton Portis circa 2005

Comments: Similar prospect to Marshawn Lynch. Given his skillset and approach to the game, his downside is Marion Barber. If he becomes a more patient runner, he can become a workhorse like Portis has been for the Redskins in recent years.

Overall Rating: 84

2. Chris Wells, Ohio State*, 6'1", 235, 4.59

Scouting Report: Tremendous explosiveness for RB his size; Toughness/dedication a question; Needs to improve pass-catching abilities

What to expect in his prime: Corey Dillon circa 2001

Comments: Has the talent to be a stud fantasy RB, but he still has room for improvement. He ran a 40 time closer to what scouts expected at his Pro-day (4.41), but he may not have the long speed most originally thought. He may not get along with coaches, but if he can keep himself in excellent shape, he should have some seasons similar to Dillon, Jamal Lewis, or Shaun Alexander.

Overall Rating: 82

3. Donald Brown, UConn*, 5'10¼", 210, 4.51

Scouting Report: Great work-ethic; Very good instincts; Not a physically elite athelete

What to expect in his prime: Curtis Martin circa 1998

Comments: May have already maxed out his physique, but there are no big worries about his game. His work ethic far surpasses any RB in this class at this point, and he should have a stellar career no matter what. Curtis Martin, Thurman Thomas, and Thomas Jones comparisons are all valid.

Overall Rating: 80

4. LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh**, 5'10⅜", 198, 4.49

Scouting Report: Very slippery in the open field; Carries ball loosely; Needs to add bulk

What to expect in his prime: Tiki Barber circa 2000

Comments: Desire and motivation seemed to come into question when he wavered in entering the Draft. He is a fluid runner in the open field in the mold of Gale Sayers or Reggie Bush, but has not flashed elite athleticism in tests. Big question is- can coaches motivate him to condition himself and bulk up in order to become the next Tiki Barber/Reggie Bush-type weapon?

Overall Rating: 79

5. Shonn Greene, Iowa*, 5'10½", 227, 4.72

Scouting Report: Ideal frame for running style; Very good north-south runner; Won't be a threat in the open field

What to expect in his prime: Rudi Johnson circa 2006

Comments: Bakground suggests he may not be an exremely motivated NFL player, which doesn't bode well because at this point he is nothing more than a 2-down back. On the plus side- he already appears to be a slightly better version of LenDale White. Should at least have a couple seasons with a load of TDs, but may never earn the opportunity to carry the full load.

Overall Rating: 75

6. Andre Brown, North Carolina State, 6'0⅛", 224, 4.49

Scouting Report: Very good athleticism for RB his size; Good versatility; Durability a red flag

What to expect in his prime: Michael Pittman circa 2004

Comments: A solid physical specimin with no red flags about his character. He may even have more upside than Donald Brown, but the doubts about his durability are too large to ignore. I can see him taking a career path similar to Correll Buckhalter or Michael Pittman, but a clean bill of health could give him a shot to become a fantasy contributor.

Overall Rating: 73

7. Rashad Jennings, Liberty, 6'1", 231, 4.6

Scouting Report: Strong, motivated runner; Can catch passes but won't be a threat in the open field

What to expect in his prime: Jamal Lewis circa 2008

Comments: Runs slightly upright- but so does Brandon Jacobs and Jamal Lewis. He is not as strong as Jacobs and not as fast as Lewis was in the prime of his career, but he has a decent size/speed ratio. Versatile, but probably not gifted enough in the lateral agility department to be able to hold onto a starting role for long, if ever.

Overall Rating: 70

 

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[aposulli]

In taking one final look at each offensive skill position before the draft, I've decided to write a blurb about my top prospects...

QBs >80 Potential fantasy stud, 80-65 Potential fantasy starter, <65 Potential fantasy backup

1. Matthew Stafford, Georgia*, 6'2¼", 225, 4.84

Scouting Report: Ideal arm strength; Very confident; Needs work on footwork and touch throws

What to expect in his prime: Jay Cutler circa 2008

Comments: Similar to Cutler in several facets of the game. If asked to play in Year 1, it shouldn't hurt his development too much. He has the intangibles and talent of many productive gunslinging QBs in the past inlcuding Favre, Cutler, etc.

Overall Rating: 73

2. Mark Sanchez, USC*, 6'2⅛", 227, 4.88

Scouting Report: Ideal quick release; Great leadership qualities; Inexperienced; Lacks ideal arm strength

What to expect in his prime: Tom Brady circa 2003

Comments: A great prototype for a WCO-leading QB. The big knock against this guy is that there isn't much of a precendent of QBs having so few starts before being drafted in the 1st round of the NFL draft. If he sits a full season and gets a handful of NFL preseason games under his belt, he should be able to eventually put up Romo or Aaron Rodgers numbers with a good supporting cast.

Overall Rating: 71

3. Josh Freeman, Kansas State*, 6'5¾", 248, 4.97

Scouting Report: Ideal size and arm strength; Very agile for his size; Needs work on mental lapses, reading defenses

What to expect in his prime: Warren Moon circa 1987

Comments: A boom-or-bust candidate with Daunte Culpepper upside and Daunte Culpepper downside. Given his need to learn how to read defenses, it's safe to say Freeman ideally would not follow JaMarcus Russell's path in becoming an NFL starter. Great coaching could do wonders for him as he has the potential to put up fantasy starter numbers in the ideal scenario.

Overall Rating: 66

RBs >90 Potential fantasy stud, 90-65 Potential fantasy starter, <65 Potential fantasy backup1. Knowshon Moreno, Georgia**, 5'10⅝", 217, 4.63

Scouting Report: Tremendous motor; Lack of top end speed; May not have ideal frame for running style

What to expect in his prime: Clinton Portis circa 2005

Comments: Similar prospect to Marshawn Lynch. Given his skillset and approach to the game, his downside is Marion Barber. If he becomes a more patient runner, he can become a workhorse like Portis has been for the Redskins in recent years.

Overall Rating: 84

2. Chris Wells, Ohio State*, 6'1", 235, 4.59

Scouting Report: Tremendous explosiveness for RB his size; Toughness/dedication a question; Needs to improve pass-catching abilities

What to expect in his prime: Corey Dillon circa 2001

Comments: Has the talent to be a stud fantasy RB, but he still has room for improvement. He ran a 40 time closer to what scouts expected at his Pro-day (4.41), but he may not have the long speed most originally thought. He may not get along with coaches, but if he can keep himself in excellent shape, he should have some seasons similar to Dillon, Jamal Lewis, or Shaun Alexander.

Overall Rating: 82

3. Donald Brown, UConn*, 5'10¼", 210, 4.51

Scouting Report: Great work-ethic; Very good instincts; Not a physically elite athelete

What to expect in his prime: Curtis Martin circa 1998

Comments: May have already maxed out his physique, but there are no big worries about his game. His work ethic far surpasses any RB in this class at this point, and he should have a stellar career no matter what. Curtis Martin, Thurman Thomas, and Thomas Jones comparisons are all valid.

Overall Rating: 80

4. LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh**, 5'10⅜", 198, 4.49

Scouting Report: Very slippery in the open field; Carries ball loosely; Needs to add bulk

What to expect in his prime: Tiki Barber circa 2000

Comments: Desire and motivation seemed to come into question when he wavered in entering the Draft. He is a fluid runner in the open field in the mold of Gale Sayers or Reggie Bush, but has not flashed elite athleticism in tests. Big question is- can coaches motivate him to condition himself and bulk up in order to become the next Tiki Barber/Reggie Bush-type weapon?

Overall Rating: 79

5. Shonn Greene, Iowa*, 5'10½", 227, 4.72

Scouting Report: Ideal frame for running style; Very good north-south runner; Won't be a threat in the open field

What to expect in his prime: Rudi Johnson circa 2006

Comments: Bakground suggests he may not be an exremely motivated NFL player, which doesn't bode well because at this point he is nothing more than a 2-down back. On the plus side- he already appears to be a slightly better version of LenDale White. Should at least have a couple seasons with a load of TDs, but may never earn the opportunity to carry the full load.

Overall Rating: 75

6. Andre Brown, North Carolina State, 6'0⅛", 224, 4.49

Scouting Report: Very good athleticism for RB his size; Good versatility; Durability a red flag

What to expect in his prime: Michael Pittman circa 2004

Comments: A solid physical specimin with no red flags about his character. He may even have more upside than Donald Brown, but the doubts about his durability are too large to ignore. I can see him taking a career path similar to Correll Buckhalter or Michael Pittman, but a clean bill of health could give him a shot to become a fantasy contributor.

Overall Rating: 73

7. Rashad Jennings, Liberty, 6'1", 231, 4.6

Scouting Report: Strong, motivated runner; Can catch passes but won't be a threat in the open field

What to expect in his prime: Jamal Lewis circa 2008

Comments: Runs slightly upright- but so does Brandon Jacobs and Jamal Lewis. He is not as strong as Jacobs and not as fast as Lewis was in the prime of his career, but he has a decent size/speed ratio. Versatile, but probably not gifted enough in the lateral agility department to be able to hold onto a starting role for long, if ever.

Overall Rating: 70

WRs >90 Potential fantasy stud, 90-60 Potential fantasy starter, <60 Potential fantasy backup

1. Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech**, 6'1⅜", 215, did not run 40 yard dash

Scouting Report: Ideal ball skills; Strong hands; Lacks ideal vertical speed

What to expect in his prime: Brandon Marshall circa 2008

Comments: Cut in the mold of Larry Fitzgerald and Brandon Marshall. He'll contribute early and should develop into a guy who can be counted on for 90 catches per season. Strong hands not only great for snagging jump balls, but for creating separation when in press coverage. Durability in a minor concern.

Overall Rating: 80

2. Jeremy Maclin, Missouri**, 6'0⅛", 198, 4.45

Scouting Report: Ideal speed; Consistent hands; May lack ideal ability to break press coverage

What to expect in his prime: Torry Holt circa 2001

Comments: Does not yet possess the intangibles of Holt, but has the speed to run by defenders and create separation with his acceleration. He is no Ted Ginn or Troy Williamson as his hands and concentration on the catch are far superior. Will need to work on polishing his route running in order to ever get to Holt's level.

Overall Rating: 77

3. Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland*, 6'1⅝", 210, 4.3

Scouting Report: Great deep threat; Lacks ideal ability to break press coverage; Needs to improve concentration on easy catches

What to expect in his prime: Javon Walker circa 2006

Comments: Could have a Randy Moss-like impact, given his height/speed combo. Needs to work on short-intermediate routes to avoid becoming the next Ashley Lelie. Was not pressed in college, so he may need time to adjust to different coverages.

Overall Rating: 74

t4. Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina*, 6'0¾", 212, 4.54

Scouting Report: Strong hands; Lacks ideal vertical speed; Motivation a question

What to expect in his prime: Marty Booker circa 2002

Comments: Similar to Anquan Boldin in a lot of respects. Post-season weight gain and overall lack of dominant performances in college raises questions. Upside is limited due to lack of overall speed, but with good coaching he should turn in a productive career as a short-intermediate receiver.

Overall Rating: 71

t4. Percy Harvin, Florida*, 5'11⅛", 192, 4.41

Scouting Report: Ideal open-field threat; Lacks experience at wideout position; Durability a concern

What to expect in his prime: Santana Moss circa 2003

Comments: Resume similar to Chris Johnson coming out of college. Will NFL offenses use him as a traditional receiver is the question. The answer will be based on his basic route-running learning process. If he can stay healthy, he will have several big games in his career, but may not be a consistent fantasy option.

Overall Rating: 71

6. Kenny Britt, Rutgers*, 6'2⅞", 218, 4.47

Scouting Report: Great size/speed combo; Sometimes fights the ball; Maturity a question

What to expect in his prime: Braylon Edwards circa 2006

Comments: Did not impress scouts in interviews. Obviously his combination of size and speed is rare, but such has been the case with WR busts of the past. He'll need to work on intermediate route-running to ever become a fantasy starter.

Overall Rating: 70

7. Brain Robiskie, Ohio State, 6'2⅞", 209, 4.51

Scouting Report: Great work ethic; Excellent hands; Lacks great speed and explosiveness

What to expect in his prime: Hines Ward circa 2001

Comments: Less potential than any of the 5 guys ranked directly ahead of him on here, but also much less likely to be a bust. Given his attitude and consistent effort, he should become a reliable target on short-intermediate routes. Won't have many huge games, but will be a guy who shows up on the fantasy radar year after year.

Overall Rating: 69

 

[aposulli]

Tracking the picks in the 2009 NFL draft

Note: Ratings are pre-draft grades



QBs

1.1 (1) Detroit Lions- [73] Matthew Stafford, Georgia*

1.5 (5) New York Jets- [71] Mark Sanchez, USC*

1.17 (17) Tampa Bay Buccaneers- [66] Josh Freeman, Kansas State*

2.12 (44) Miami Dolphins- [>50] Pat White, West Virginia

4.1 (101) Dallas Cowboys- [52] Stephen McGee, Texas A&M

5.15 (151) New York Giants- [54] Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State

5.35 (171) San Francisco 49ers- [55] Nate Davis, Ball State*

6.1 (174) Denver Broncos- [>50] Tom Brandstater, Fresno State

6.5 (178) Seattle Seahawks- [>50] Mike Teel, Rutgers

6.23 (196) Saint Louis Rams- [>50] Keith Null, West Teaxs A&M

6.28 (201) Indianapolis Colts- [>50] Curtis Painter, Purdue

Undrafted Free Agents

[50] Brian Hoyer, Michigan State



RBs

1.12 (12) Denver Broncos- [84] Knowshon Moreno, Georgia*

1.27 (27) Indianapolis Colts- [80] Donald Brown, UConn*

1.31 (31) Arizona Cardinals- [82] Chris Wells, Ohio State*

2.21 (53) Philadelphia Eagles- [79] LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh**

3.1 (65) New York Jets- [75] Shonn Greene, Iowa*

3.10 (74) San Francisco 49ers- [62] Glen Coffee, Alabama*

4.11 (111) Carolina Panthers- [65] Mike Goodson, Texas A&M*

4.29 (129) New York Giants- [73] Andre Brown, North Carolina State

4.34 (134) San Diego Chargers- [63] Gartrell Johnson, Colorado State

5.33 (169) Pittsburgh Steelers- [>55] Frank Summers, UNLV

5.37 (173) Tennessee Titans- [66] Javon Ringer, Michigan State

6.12 (185) Baltimore Ravens- [67] Cedric Peerman, Virginia

6.19 (192) Detroit Lions- [57] Aaron Brown, TCU

6.22 (195) Cleveland Browns- [64] James Davis, Clemson

6.36 (209) Cincinnati Bengals- [65] Bernard Scott, Abilene Christian

7.2 (211) Saint Louis Rams- [56] Chris Ogbonnaya, Texas

7.3 (212) Kansas City Chiefs- [61] Javarris Williams, Tennessee State

7.6 (215) Cincinnati Bengals- [>50] Tauful Vakapuna, BYU

7.31 (240) Arizona Cardinals- [>50] LaRod Stephens-Howling, Pittsburgh

7.41 (250) Jacksonville Jaguars- [70] Rashad Jennings, Liberty

Undrafted Free Agents

[64] Jeremiah Johnson, Oregon

[64] Kory Sheets, Purdue

[60] Ian Johnson, Boise State

[60] Devin Moore, Wyoming

[59] Arian Foster, Tennessee

[57] Tyrell Sutton, Northwestern

[56] Antone Smith, Florida State

[55] Marlon Lucky, Nebraska

[55] P.J. Hill, Wisconsin*



WRs

1.7 (7) Oakland Raiders- [74] Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland*

1.10 (10) San Francisco 49ers- [80] Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech**

1.19 (19) Philadelphia Eagles- [77] Jeremy Maclin, Missouri**

1.22 (22) Minnesota Vikings- [71] Percy Harvin, Florida*

1.29 (29) New York Giants- [71] Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina*

1.30 (30) Tennessee Titans- [70] Kenny Britt, Rutgers*

2.4 (36) Cleveland Browns- [69] Brain Robiskie, Ohio State

2.18 (50) Cleveland Browns- [61] Mohamed Massaquoi, Georgia

3.18 (82) Detroit Lions- [63] Derrick Wiliams, Penn State

3.19 (83) New England Patriots- [63] Brandon Tate, North Carolina

3.20 (84) Pittsburgh Steelers- [60] Mike Wallace, Mississippi

3.21 (85) New York Giants- [63] Ramses Barden, Cal Poly

3.23 (87) Miami Dolphins- [55] Patrick Turner, Southern Cal

3.27 (91) Seattle Seahawks- [60] Deon Butler, Penn State

3.35 (99) Chicago Bears- [63] Juaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma

4.7 (107) Jacksonville Jaguars- [63] Mike Thomas, Arizona

4.8 (108) Miami Dolphins- [>50] Brian Hartline, Ohio State

4.24 (124) Oakland Raiders- [61] Louis Murphy, Florida

4.27 (127) Indianapolis Colts- [60] Austin Collie, BYU*

5.4 (140) Chicago Bears- [57] Johnny Knox, Abilene Christian

5.5 (141) Denver Broncos- [61] Kenny McKinley, South Carolina

5.8 (144) Jacksonville Jaguars- [64] Jarett Dillard, Rice

5.24 (160) Saint Louis Rams- [60] Brooks Foster, North Carolina

6.2 (175) Kansas City Chiefs- [>50] Quinten Lawrence, McNeese State

6.21 (194) Philadelphia Eagles- [61] Brandon Gibson, Washington State

6.33 (206) Tennessee Titans- [52] Dominique Edison, Stephen F. Austin

7.15 (224) San Diego Chargers- [57] Demetrius Byrd, LSU

7.20 (229) Dallas Cowboys- [>50] Manuel Johnson, Ohio State

7.23 (232) New England Patriots- [>50] Julian Edelman, Kent State

7.24 (233) Tampa Bay Buccaneers- [58] Sammie Stroughter, Oregon State

7.34 (243) Washington Redskins- [>50] Marko Mitchell, Nevada

7.42 (251) Chicago Bears- [>50] Derek Kinder, Pittsburgh

7.43 (252) Cincinnati Bengals- [>50] Freddie Brown, Utah

7.44 (253) Jacksonville Jaguars- [56] Tiquan Underwood, Rutgers

Undrafted Free Agents

[60] Kevin Ogletree, Virginia*

[59] Aaron Kelly, Clemson

[56] Dudley Guice, Northwestern State

[53] JaMarco Simmons, Western Michigan

[53] Quan Cosby, Texas

[52] Darius Passmore, Marshall



TEs

1.20 (20) Detroit Lions- [64] Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State

2.32 (44) Denver Broncos- [>50] Richard Quinn, North Carolina

3.25 (89) Tennessee Titans- [67] James Cook, South Carolina*

3.34 (98) Cincinnati Bengals- [58] Chase Coffman, Missouri

3.36 (100) New York Giants- [59] Travis Beckum, Wisconsin

4.21 (121) Buffalo Bills- [66] Shawn Nelson, Southern Mississippi

4.22 (122) Houston Texans- [>50] Anthony Hill, North Carolina State

5.13 (149) Baltimore Ravens- [>50] Davon Drew, East Carolina

5.16 (152) Houston Texans- [66] James Casey, Rice*

5.17 (153) Philadelphia Eagles- [61] Cornelius Ingram, Florida

5.25 (161) Miami Dolphins- [>50] Jonathan Naibone, Monmouth

6.7 (180) Jacksonville Jaguars- [>50] Zach Miller, Nebraska-Omaha

6.11 (184) San Francisco 49ers- [>50] Bear Pascoe, Fresno State

6.29 (202) Oakland Raiders- [>50] Brandon Myers, Iowa

6.35 (208) Dallas Cowboys- [>50] John Phillips, Virginia

7.28 (237) Kansas City Chiefs- [>50] Jake O'Connell, Miami (OH)

7.32 (241) Pittsburgh Steelers- [>50] David Johnson, Arkansas State

7.39 (248) Seattle Seahawks- [53] Cameron Morrah, California

7.46 (255) Detroit Lions- [>50] Dan Gronkowski, Maryland

 

[FUBAR]

Still available[64] Jarett Dillard, Rice[66] James Casey, Rice*

Anyone else surprised by these two being available still? 17 WRs gone and Dillard still available? Cook going in the 3rd seems later than I suspected, love him in Tennessee. In fact, I might rate him about the Titans 1st round pick in rookie drafts. Casey should go soon... right?

 

[aposulli]

Still available[64] Jarett Dillard, Rice[66] James Casey, Rice*

Anyone else surprised by these two being available still? 17 WRs gone and Dillard still available? Cook going in the 3rd seems later than I suspected, love him in Tennessee. In fact, I might rate him about the Titans 1st round pick in rookie drafts. Casey should go soon... right?

Interesting to note that two of the highest rated players still undrafted are Rice teammates Dillard and Casey. Dillard was not ranked very high by most scouting services, so it's not too surprising. He may not be a great special teams player in the NFL, but he should be picked soon by some team with poor WR depth (...Tennessee?). Casey will undoubtedly be one of the next 2 TEs drafted.

 

[aposulli]

2009 NFL draft picks with pre-draft ratings

QBs

1.1 (1) Detroit Lions- [73] Matthew Stafford, Georgia*

1.5 (5) New York Jets- [71] Mark Sanchez, USC*

1.17 (17) Tampa Bay Buccaneers- [66] Josh Freeman, Kansas State*

2.12 (44) Miami Dolphins- [>50] Pat White, West Virginia

4.1 (101) Dallas Cowboys- [52] Stephen McGee, Texas A&M

5.15 (151) New York Giants- [54] Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State

5.35 (171) San Francisco 49ers- [55] Nate Davis, Ball State*

6.1 (174) Denver Broncos- [>50] Tom Brandstater, Fresno State

6.5 (178) Seattle Seahawks- [>50] Mike Teel, Rutgers

6.23 (196) Saint Louis Rams- [>50] Keith Null, West Teaxs A&M

6.28 (201) Indianapolis Colts- [>50] Curtis Painter, Purdue

Undrafted Free Agents

[50] Brian Hoyer, Michigan State



RBs

1.12 (12) Denver Broncos- [84] Knowshon Moreno, Georgia*

1.27 (27) Indianapolis Colts- [80] Donald Brown, UConn*

1.31 (31) Arizona Cardinals- [82] Chris Wells, Ohio State*

2.21 (53) Philadelphia Eagles- [79] LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh**

3.1 (65) New York Jets- [75] Shonn Greene, Iowa*

3.10 (74) San Francisco 49ers- [62] Glen Coffee, Alabama*

4.11 (111) Carolina Panthers- [65] Mike Goodson, Texas A&M*

4.29 (129) New York Giants- [73] Andre Brown, North Carolina State

4.34 (134) San Diego Chargers- [63] Gartrell Johnson, Colorado State

5.33 (169) Pittsburgh Steelers- [>55] Frank Summers, UNLV

5.37 (173) Tennessee Titans- [66] Javon Ringer, Michigan State

6.12 (185) Baltimore Ravens- [67] Cedric Peerman, Virginia

6.19 (192) Detroit Lions- [57] Aaron Brown, TCU

6.22 (195) Cleveland Browns- [64] James Davis, Clemson

6.36 (209) Cincinnati Bengals- [65] Bernard Scott, Abilene Christian

7.2 (211) Saint Louis Rams- [56] Chris Ogbonnaya, Texas

7.3 (212) Kansas City Chiefs- [61] Javarris Williams, Tennessee State

7.6 (215) Cincinnati Bengals- [>50] Tauful Vakapuna, BYU

7.31 (240) Arizona Cardinals- [>50] LaRod Stephens-Howling, Pittsburgh

7.41 (250) Jacksonville Jaguars- [70] Rashad Jennings, Liberty

Undrafted Free Agents

[64] Jeremiah Johnson, Oregon

[64] Kory Sheets, Purdue

[60] Ian Johnson, Boise State

[60] Devin Moore, Wyoming

[59] Arian Foster, Tennessee

[57] Tyrell Sutton, Northwestern

[56] Antone Smith, Florida State

[55] Marlon Lucky, Nebraska

[55] P.J. Hill, Wisconsin*



WRs

1.7 (7) Oakland Raiders- [74] Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland*

1.10 (10) San Francisco 49ers- [80] Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech**

1.19 (19) Philadelphia Eagles- [77] Jeremy Maclin, Missouri**

1.22 (22) Minnesota Vikings- [71] Percy Harvin, Florida*

1.29 (29) New York Giants- [71] Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina*

1.30 (30) Tennessee Titans- [70] Kenny Britt, Rutgers*

2.4 (36) Cleveland Browns- [69] Brain Robiskie, Ohio State

2.18 (50) Cleveland Browns- [61] Mohamed Massaquoi, Georgia

3.18 (82) Detroit Lions- [63] Derrick Wiliams, Penn State

3.19 (83) New England Patriots- [63] Brandon Tate, North Carolina

3.20 (84) Pittsburgh Steelers- [60] Mike Wallace, Mississippi

3.21 (85) New York Giants- [63] Ramses Barden, Cal Poly

3.23 (87) Miami Dolphins- [55] Patrick Turner, Southern Cal

3.27 (91) Seattle Seahawks- [60] Deon Butler, Penn State

3.35 (99) Chicago Bears- [63] Juaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma

4.7 (107) Jacksonville Jaguars- [63] Mike Thomas, Arizona

4.8 (108) Miami Dolphins- [>50] Brian Hartline, Ohio State

4.24 (124) Oakland Raiders- [61] Louis Murphy, Florida

4.27 (127) Indianapolis Colts- [60] Austin Collie, BYU*

5.4 (140) Chicago Bears- [57] Johnny Knox, Abilene Christian

5.5 (141) Denver Broncos- [61] Kenny McKinley, South Carolina

5.8 (144) Jacksonville Jaguars- [64] Jarett Dillard, Rice

5.24 (160) Saint Louis Rams- [60] Brooks Foster, North Carolina

6.2 (175) Kansas City Chiefs- [>50] Quinten Lawrence, McNeese State

6.21 (194) Philadelphia Eagles- [61] Brandon Gibson, Washington State

6.33 (206) Tennessee Titans- [52] Dominique Edison, Stephen F. Austin

7.15 (224) San Diego Chargers- [57] Demetrius Byrd, LSU

7.20 (229) Dallas Cowboys- [>50] Manuel Johnson, Ohio State

7.23 (232) New England Patriots- [>50] Julian Edelman, Kent State

7.24 (233) Tampa Bay Buccaneers- [58] Sammie Stroughter, Oregon State

7.34 (243) Washington Redskins- [>50] Marko Mitchell, Nevada

7.42 (251) Chicago Bears- [>50] Derek Kinder, Pittsburgh

7.43 (252) Cincinnati Bengals- [>50] Freddie Brown, Utah

7.44 (253) Jacksonville Jaguars- [56] Tiquan Underwood, Rutgers

Undrafted Free Agents

[60] Kevin Ogletree, Virginia*

[59] Aaron Kelly, Clemson

[56] Dudley Guice, Northwestern State

[53] JaMarco Simmons, Western Michigan

[53] Quan Cosby, Texas

[52] Darius Passmore, Marshall



TEs

1.20 (20) Detroit Lions- [64] Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State

2.32 (44) Denver Broncos- [>50] Richard Quinn, North Carolina

3.25 (89) Tennessee Titans- [67] James Cook, South Carolina*

3.34 (98) Cincinnati Bengals- [58] Chase Coffman, Missouri

3.36 (100) New York Giants- [59] Travis Beckum, Wisconsin

4.21 (121) Buffalo Bills- [66] Shawn Nelson, Southern Mississippi

4.22 (122) Houston Texans- [>50] Anthony Hill, North Carolina State

5.13 (149) Baltimore Ravens- [>50] Davon Drew, East Carolina

5.16 (152) Houston Texans- [66] James Casey, Rice*

5.17 (153) Philadelphia Eagles- [61] Cornelius Ingram, Florida

5.25 (161) Miami Dolphins- [>50] Jonathan Naibone, Monmouth

6.7 (180) Jacksonville Jaguars- [>50] Zach Miller, Nebraska-Omaha

6.11 (184) San Francisco 49ers- [>50] Bear Pascoe, Fresno State

6.29 (202) Oakland Raiders- [>50] Brandon Myers, Iowa

6.35 (208) Dallas Cowboys- [>50] John Phillips, Virginia

7.28 (237) Kansas City Chiefs- [>50] Jake O'Connell, Miami (OH)

7.32 (241) Pittsburgh Steelers- [>50] David Johnson, Arkansas State

7.39 (248) Seattle Seahawks- [53] Cameron Morrah, California

7.46 (255) Detroit Lions- [>50] Dan Gronkowski, Maryland

 

[JAA]

Final Pre-Draft rankings of 2009 Rookie class (Updated 3/28/09)

You realize Pat White will be a day 1 pick? You have him ~WR30.

sehorn

 

[aposulli]

Final Pre-Draft rankings of 2009 Rookie class (Updated 3/28/09)

You realize Pat White will be a day 1 pick? You have him ~WR30.

sehorn

Didn't look like his stubbornness about working out as a receiver hurt his stock. Who knows if he'll be asked to contribute as a receiver down the line, but it looks like in Miami he'll get opportunities to work out as a wildcat/option QB. It's a great fit, but no matter where White was drafted, he wasn't going to crack my overall top 30 for dynasty rookie drafts. Although, I may rank him 4th or 5th among QBs given the fact that Bomar and McGee are buried behind franchise QBs.

 

[Biabreakable]

 

[aposulli]

Final Pre-Draft Rankings listed below for reference...

Final Pre-Draft rankings of 2009 Rookie class (Updated 3/28/09)

Pre-draft lists are based upon the fantasy upside of players in their best potential situation (Typical 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, PPR leagues)

* = Junior

** = 3rd year Sophomore



Overall Top 10 listed with Height, Weight, Combine 40 time (Pro Day 40 time)

[84] RB Knowshon Moreno, Georgia**, 5'10 5/8", 217, 4.63 (4.60)

[82] RB Chris Wells, Ohio State*, 6'1", 235, 4.59 (4.41)

[80] RB Donald Brown, UConn*, 5'10 1/4", 210, 4.51

[80] WR Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech**, 6'1 3/8", 215, will not run 40 yd dash

[79] RB LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh**, 5'10", 198, (4.50)

[77] WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri**, 6' 1/8", 198, 4.45 (4.45)

[75] RB Shonn Greene, Iowa*, 5'10 1/2", 227, 4.72 (4.57)

[74] WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland*, 6'1 5/8", 210, 4.30

[73] QB Matthew Stafford, Georgia*, 6'2 1/4", 225, 4.81

[73] RB Andre Brown, North Carolina State, 6'0⅛", 224, 4.49



QBs >80 Potential fantasy stud, 80-65 Potential fantasy starter, <65 Potential fantasy backup

[73] Matthew Stafford, Georgia*

[71] Mark Sanchez, USC*

[66] Josh Freeman, Kansas State*

[55] Nate Davis, Ball State*

[54] Rhett Bomar, Sam Houston State

[52] Stephen McGee, Texas A&M

[50] Brian Hoyer, Michigan State



RBs >90 Potential fantasy stud, 90-65 Potential fantasy starter, <65 Potential fantasy backup

[84] Knowshon Moreno, Georgia*

[82] Chris Wells, Ohio State*

[80] Donald Brown, UConn*

[79] LeSean McCoy, Pittsburgh**

[75] Shonn Greene, Iowa*

[73] Andre Brown, North Carolina State

[70] Rashad Jennings, Liberty

[67] Cedric Peerman, Virginia

[66] Javon Ringer, Michigan State

[65] Mike Goodson, Texas A&M*

[65] Bernard Scott, Abilene Christian

[64] James Davis, Clemson

[64] Jeremiah Johnson, Oregon

[64] Kory Sheets, Purdue

[63] Gartrell Johnson, Colorado State

[62] Glen Coffee, Alabama*

[61] Javarris Williams, Tennessee State

[60] Ian Johnson, Boise State

[60] Devin Moore, Wyoming

[59] Arian Foster, Tennessee

[57] Tyrell Sutton, Northwestern

[57] Aaron Brown, TCU

[56] Chris Ogbonnaya, Texas

[56] Antone Smith, Florida State

[55] Marlon Lucky, Nebraska

[55] P.J. Hill, Wisconsin*



WRs >90 Potential fantasy stud, 90-60 Potential fantasy starter, <60 Potential fantasy backup

[80] Michael Crabtree, Texas Tech**

[77] Jeremy Maclin, Missouri**

[74] Darrius Heyward-Bey, Maryland*

[71] Hakeem Nicks, North Carolina*

[71] Percy Harvin, Florida*

[70] Kenny Britt, Rutgers*

[69] Brain Robiskie, Ohio State

[64] Jarett Dillard, Rice

[63] Juaquin Iglesias, Oklahoma

[63] Ramses Barden, Cal Poly

[63] Mike Thomas, Arizona

[63] Derrick Wiliams, Penn State

[63] Brandon Tate, North Carolina

[61] Brandon Gibson, Washington State

[61] Louis Murphy, Florida

[61] Mohamed Massaquoi, Georgia

[61] Kenny McKinley, South Carolina

[60] Deon Butler, Penn State

[60] Mike Wallace, Mississippi

[60] Brooks Foster, North Carolina

[60] Kevin Ogletree, Virginia*

[60] Austin Collie, BYU*

[59] Aaron Kelly, Clemson

[58] Sammie Stroughter, Oregon State

[57] Demetrius Byrd, LSU

[57] Johnny Knox, Abilene Christian

[56] Tiquan Underwood, Rutgers

[56] Dudley Guice, Northwestern State

[56] Pat White, West Virginia

[55] Patrick Turner, Southern Cal

[53] JaMarco Simmons, Western Michigan

[53] Quan Cosby, Texas

[52] Dominique Edison, Stephen F. Austin

[52] Darius Passmore, Marshall



TEs >72 Potential fantasy stud, 72-57 Potential fantasy starter, <57 Potential fantasy backup

[67] James Cook, South Carolina*

[66] James Casey, Rice*

[66] Shawn Nelson, Southern Mississippi

[64] Brandon Pettigrew, Oklahoma State

[61] Cornelius Ingram, Florida

[59] Travis Beckum, Wisconsin

[58] Chase Coffman, Missouri

[53] Cameron Morrah, California

 

[aposulli]

Preliminary Post-Draft Rankings of 2009 Rookie class (Updated 4/27/09)

Lists are based on Dynasty Rankings for a typical 12-team Rookie draft (Typical 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, PPR leagues)



Overall Top 10

[83] RB Knowshon Moreno, Denver Broncos

[80] RB Chris Wells, Arizona Cardinals

[77] RB Donald Brown, Indianapolis Colts

[77] WR Michael Crabtree, San Francisco 49ers

[75] RB LeSean McCoy, Philadelphia Eagles

[73] WR Jeremy Maclin, Philadelphia Eagles

[73] QB Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions

[72] RB Shonn Greene, New York Jets

[72] WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oakland Raiders

[71] WR Hakeem Nicks, New York Giants



QBs >80 Potential fantasy stud, 80-65 Potential fantasy starter, <65 Potential fantasy backup

[73] Matthew Stafford, DET

[69] Mark Sanchez, NYJ

[64] Josh Freeman, TB

[50] Nate Davis, SF



RBs >90 Potential fantasy stud, 90-65 Potential fantasy starter, <65 Potential fantasy backup

[83] Knowshon Moreno, DEN

[80] Chris Wells, ARZ

[77] Donald Brown, IND

[75] LeSean McCoy, PHI

[72] Shonn Greene, NYJ

[60] Andre Brown, NYG

[59] James Davis, CLE

[59] Rashad Jennings, JAX

[58] Cedric Peerman, BAL

[58] Bernard Scott, CIN

[57] Gartrell Johnson, SD

[53] Javon Ringer, TEN

[53] Arian Foster, HOU

[53] Glen Coffee, SF

[52] Mike Goodson, CAR

[51] Kory Sheets, SF

[51] Jeremiah Johnson, HOU

[51] Javarris Williams, KC



WRs >90 Potential fantasy stud, 90-60 Potential fantasy starter, <60 Potential fantasy backup

[77] Michael Crabtree, SF

[73] Jeremy Maclin, PHI

[72] Darrius Heyward-Bey, OAK

[70] Hakeem Nicks, NYG

[69] Percy Harvin, MIN

[68] Kenny Britt, TEN

[67] Brain Robiskie, CLE

[62] Juaquin Iglesias, CHI

[61] Jarett Dillard, JAX

[60] Ramses Barden, NYG

[60] Derrick Wiliams, DET

[59] Mike Thomas, JAX

[58] Brandon Tate, NE

[57] Mohamed Massaquoi, CLE

[56] Austin Collie, IND

[54] Mike Wallace, PIT

[54] Louis Murphy, OAK

[54] Sammie Stroughter, TB

[54] Johnny Knox, CHI

[53] Deon Butler, SEA

[53] Brooks Foster, STL

[52] Brandon Gibson, PHI

[52] Patrick Turner, MIA

[50] Kenny McKinley, DEN

[50] Kevin Ogletree, DAL

[50] Aaron Kelly, ATL



TEs >72 Potential fantasy stud, 72-57 Potential fantasy starter, <57 Potential fantasy backup

[64] James Cook, TEN

[63] Shawn Nelson, BUF

[63] Brandon Pettigrew, DET

[58] James Casey, HOU

[57] Chase Coffman, CIN

[55] Travis Beckum, NYG

[53] Cornelius Ingram, PHI

 

[Biabreakable]

Thanks for the lists aposulli.

Good stuff here.

 

[biggamer3]

after the top 4 in rookie drafts there is a huge dropoff in talent IMO

Crabtree at #4 is amazing value, everyone knows he will have a great rookie season, at least i do

 

[Biabreakable]

after the top 4 in rookie drafts there is a huge dropoff in talent IMOCrabtree at #4 is amazing value, everyone knows he will have a great rookie season, at least i do

I don't think Brown belongs in the top teir.I like him. But he still has to beat out Addai. In the Colts system I don't see that happening right away unless Addai is injured.

 

[doowain]

after the top 4 in rookie drafts there is a huge dropoff in talent IMOCrabtree at #4 is amazing value, everyone knows he will have a great rookie season, at least i do

I think there are two tiers and then a huge dropoff after that.Tier 1MorenoCrabtreeWellsPPR or non-PPR, I rank Tier 1 that way.Tier 2McCoyBrownMaclinNicksHarvinGreeneTier 2 (in no particular order) figures to have the most variance in draft order between rookie drafts. I see most of these guys as roughly even, so you can take them based upon need (WR or RB) or based on preference."There's a lot that can happen in a year's time"....it's interesting to me that the consensus Top 3 right now was the consensus Top 3 a year ago.

 

[cstu]

after the top 4 in rookie drafts there is a huge dropoff in talent IMO

Crabtree at #4 is amazing value, everyone knows he will have a great rookie season, at least i do

I don't think Brown belongs in the top teir.I like him. But he still has to beat out Addai. In the Colts system I don't see that happening right away unless Addai is injured.

So right away then?

 

[aposulli]

after the top 4 in rookie drafts there is a huge dropoff in talent IMOCrabtree at #4 is amazing value, everyone knows he will have a great rookie season, at least i do

Crabtree's situation wasn't ideal, but at least he'll be targeted early and often in his career. By year 2, we should expect at least WR2/WR3 numbers in a typical 12-team league. Only question is, who is going to be getting him the ball? They probably won't be in the running for the #1 overall pick next year (potentially Sam Bradford), but I wouldn't be surprised to see them take a QB in the 1st Round (McCoy, Lefevour, Claussen, Snead?).

 

[aposulli]

after the top 4 in rookie drafts there is a huge dropoff in talent IMOCrabtree at #4 is amazing value, everyone knows he will have a great rookie season, at least i do

I don't think Brown belongs in the top teir.I like him. But he still has to beat out Addai. In the Colts system I don't see that happening right away unless Addai is injured.

I'm not forecasting an injury, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Brown take most of the carries by the end of his first season. It's obvious with the selection of Brown, that Addai has not lived up to the coaching staff's expectations. FWIW I have not been a fan of Addai for a couple seaons now, and I had Brown ranked as the 3rd best RB in this draft, right behind Wells. Taking McCoy over Brown is justifiable, but you shouldn't hesitate to take Brown in the top 5 of a typical PPR-league Dynasty rookie draft if you need a RB.

 

[aposulli]

after the top 4 in rookie drafts there is a huge dropoff in talent IMOCrabtree at #4 is amazing value, everyone knows he will have a great rookie season, at least i do

I think there are two tiers and then a huge dropoff after that.Tier 1MorenoCrabtreeWellsPPR or non-PPR, I rank Tier 1 that way.Tier 2McCoyBrownMaclinNicksHarvinGreeneTier 2 (in no particular order) figures to have the most variance in draft order between rookie drafts. I see most of these guys as roughly even, so you can take them based upon need (WR or RB) or based on preference."There's a lot that can happen in a year's time"....it's interesting to me that the consensus Top 3 right now was the consensus Top 3 a year ago.

Just something to keep in mind: JaMarcus Russell throws a great deep ball. DHB is very adept at going deep.I'm not saying. I'm just saying.ETA: Britt is a real boom-or-bust type. He's the only guy after Crabtree, Maclin and Heyward-Bey I can see potentially having a huge impact and developing into a WR1. Unfortunately he went to a run-oriented team with not much of a QB.Stafford has to be mentioned in a tier with these guys, given that he has one of the best receivers in the game to throw to. And a potentially dynamic running game (in a couple years) to back him up.

 

[Biabreakable]

after the top 4 in rookie drafts there is a huge dropoff in talent IMOCrabtree at #4 is amazing value, everyone knows he will have a great rookie season, at least i do

I think there are two tiers and then a huge dropoff after that.Tier 1MorenoCrabtreeWellsPPR or non-PPR, I rank Tier 1 that way.Tier 2McCoyBrownMaclinNicksHarvinGreeneTier 2 (in no particular order) figures to have the most variance in draft order between rookie drafts. I see most of these guys as roughly even, so you can take them based upon need (WR or RB) or based on preference."There's a lot that can happen in a year's time"....it's interesting to me that the consensus Top 3 right now was the consensus Top 3 a year ago.

Just something to keep in mind: JaMarcus Russell throws a great deep ball. DHB is very adept at going deep.I'm not saying. I'm just saying.ETA: Britt is a real boom-or-bust type. He's the only guy after Crabtree, Maclin and Heyward-Bey I can see potentially having a huge impact and developing into a WR1. Unfortunately he went to a run-oriented team with not much of a QB.Stafford has to be mentioned in a tier with these guys, given that he has one of the best receivers in the game to throw to. And a potentially dynamic running game (in a couple years) to back him up.

lol naw he will be a bust.

 

[aposulli]

Just something to keep in mind: JaMarcus Russell throws a great deep ball. DHB is very adept at going deep.I'm not saying. I'm just saying.ETA: Britt is a real boom-or-bust type. He's the only guy after Crabtree, Maclin and Heyward-Bey I can see potentially having a huge impact and developing into a WR1. Unfortunately he went to a run-oriented team with not much of a QB.Stafford has to be mentioned in a tier with these guys, given that he has one of the best receivers in the game to throw to. And a potentially dynamic running game (in a couple years) to back him up.

lol naw he will be a bust.

Okay, I'll give you that one of these three will bust

 

[Biabreakable]

after the top 4 in rookie drafts there is a huge dropoff in talent IMOCrabtree at #4 is amazing value, everyone knows he will have a great rookie season, at least i do

I don't think Brown belongs in the top teir.I like him. But he still has to beat out Addai. In the Colts system I don't see that happening right away unless Addai is injured.

I'm not forecasting an injury, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Brown take most of the carries by the end of his first season. It's obvious with the selection of Brown, that Addai has not lived up to the coaching staff's expectations. FWIW I have not been a fan of Addai for a couple seaons now, and I had Brown ranked as the 3rd best RB in this draft, right behind Wells. Taking McCoy over Brown is justifiable, but you shouldn't hesitate to take Brown in the top 5 of a typical PPR-league Dynasty rookie draft if you need a RB.

I am just giving Addai the benefit of the doubt here. The writing is definitly on the wall but maybe Addai in a contract year gets really motivated and plays well. If he does then what?I don't like Addai. Never did. And I do like Brown. But the vet still gets the 1st shot and possible RBBC is not something I can value equaly to the more clear cut situations that Moreno and Wells are in. So that means Donald Brown is in another tier to me.

 

[aposulli]

after the top 4 in rookie drafts there is a huge dropoff in talent IMOCrabtree at #4 is amazing value, everyone knows he will have a great rookie season, at least i do

I don't think Brown belongs in the top teir.I like him. But he still has to beat out Addai. In the Colts system I don't see that happening right away unless Addai is injured.

I'm not forecasting an injury, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Brown take most of the carries by the end of his first season. It's obvious with the selection of Brown, that Addai has not lived up to the coaching staff's expectations. FWIW I have not been a fan of Addai for a couple seaons now, and I had Brown ranked as the 3rd best RB in this draft, right behind Wells. Taking McCoy over Brown is justifiable, but you shouldn't hesitate to take Brown in the top 5 of a typical PPR-league Dynasty rookie draft if you need a RB.

I am just giving Addai the benefit of the doubt here. The writing is definitly on the wall but maybe Addai in a contract year gets really motivated and plays well. If he does then what?I don't like Addai. Never did. And I do like Brown. But the vet still gets the 1st shot and possible RBBC is not something I can value equaly to the more clear cut situations that Moreno and Wells are in. So that means Donald Brown is in another tier to me.

I don't think Addai is a guy who can just motivate himself to have a huge season. The problem has always been his instincts and his overall explosiveness. He's a versatile back with some moves, but I don't think the Colts will re-sign him. The fact that Addai is an upcoming FA to me means that Brown will be given every opportunity to show the coaching staff that he has the talent to be a primary ball-carrier (or at least a 1a-type in a committee) for the Colts as soon as 2010.

 

[Biabreakable]

after the top 4 in rookie drafts there is a huge dropoff in talent IMOCrabtree at #4 is amazing value, everyone knows he will have a great rookie season, at least i do

I don't think Brown belongs in the top teir.I like him. But he still has to beat out Addai. In the Colts system I don't see that happening right away unless Addai is injured.

I'm not forecasting an injury, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Brown take most of the carries by the end of his first season. It's obvious with the selection of Brown, that Addai has not lived up to the coaching staff's expectations. FWIW I have not been a fan of Addai for a couple seaons now, and I had Brown ranked as the 3rd best RB in this draft, right behind Wells. Taking McCoy over Brown is justifiable, but you shouldn't hesitate to take Brown in the top 5 of a typical PPR-league Dynasty rookie draft if you need a RB.

I am just giving Addai the benefit of the doubt here. The writing is definitly on the wall but maybe Addai in a contract year gets really motivated and plays well. If he does then what?I don't like Addai. Never did. And I do like Brown. But the vet still gets the 1st shot and possible RBBC is not something I can value equaly to the more clear cut situations that Moreno and Wells are in. So that means Donald Brown is in another tier to me.

I don't think Addai is a guy who can just motivate himself to have a huge season. The problem has always been his instincts and his overall explosiveness. He's a versatile back with some moves, but I don't think the Colts will re-sign him. The fact that Addai is an upcoming FA to me means that Brown will be given every opportunity to show the coaching staff that he has the talent to be a primary ball-carrier (or at least a 1a-type in a committee) for the Colts as soon as 2010.

I do like Browns chances to take over. Maybe I am splitting hairs here. Just sayin I think he is a tier below the other 3.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

JaMarcus Russell throws a great deep ball.

There's a difference between being able to throw the ball really far and throwing a great deep ball.JaMarcus Russell can throw the ball really far. He does not throw a great deep ball.

 

[aposulli]

Recently signed Undrafted Free Agents with pre-draft rankings

[50] Brian Hoyer, New England Patriots- Worth just about as Kevin O'Connell was at this time last year. Just don't expect him to see the field for 3 years.

[64] Jeremiah Johnson, Houston Texans- Arguably the best RB not drafted, Johnson is a near lock to at least be on some teams' practice squad this year. The Texans needed a power back, but Johnson doesn't offer much more than Slaton already gives them.

[64] Kory Sheets, San Francisco 49ers- Not sure what the 49ers saw in Glen Coffee that made them reach for him in the 4th Round, but many would argue that Sheets is a better player. He has a better-than-decent shot to make the team given the overall lack of depth at the position. But given the presence of Gore, neither Sheets nor Coffee are of particularly great value.

[60] Ian Johnson, Minnesota Vikings- Could possibly win the #3 tailback job. At the same time, I can see him leading the CFL in rushing 4 years down the line.

[60] Devin Moore, Houston Texans- Landed in a pretty good situation. Seattle lacked depth at RB, unfortunately, they already have Justin Forsett who is about the same player as Devin Moore. Possibly a top 60 dynasty rookie (offense only).

[59] Arian Foster, Houston Texans- A better bet than Jeremiah Johnson to contribute for the Texans this year. Houston needed a guy with Fosters' skill set, plus he has the talent to succeed in a ZBS. Probably the best pick of any undrafted rookie.

[57] Tyrell Sutton, Green Bay Packers- Talented, but undersized, Sutton may never get a shot, but he deserves a mention. Might be only one Ryan Grant injury away from significant playing time (ala DeShawn Wynn last season).

[55] Marlon Lucky, Cincinnati Bengals- The release of Chris Perry gives Lucky a shot at a roster spot. He could contribute as soon as this year if injuries strike in Cincy again, but don't expect much down the line.

[60] Kevin Ogletree, Dallas Cowboys- Durability concerns kept him from being drafted. Worth monitoring in camp, but the fact that guys like Tiquan Underwood were drafted over him does not bode well.

[59] Aaron Kelly, Atlanta Falcons- After trading Robinson, Atlanta needed a 5th WR. Kelly could stick, and is a legit sleeper on a young offense with alot of potential. At least he's got more potential than several WRs that were picked in the NFL draft.

[56] Dudley Guice, Tennessee Titans- Will join fellow rookies Kenny Britt and Dominique Edison in minicamp for the Titans. He has upside as a natural pass-catcher with enough speed to become a factor, but he's a long-term project.

[53] JaMarco Simmons, Green Bay Packers- Only hope for any Simmons fans is when Green Bay waives him to put him on the practice squad, that a team in desperate need of receivers picks him up.

[53] Quan Cosby, Cincinnati Bengals- Bill Cosby couldn't boost this guy's stock on draft day, but Quan was probably on most teams' short list of potential draftees in the late rounds. He has limited upside, but he could stick with the Bengals if Ochocinco is traded or released.

 

[thecardiackid]

Great stuff in here.

Looking for a 4th round flier in a dynasty draft and enjoyed the read.

 

[Frank Costanza's Lawyer]

ETA: Britt is a real boom-or-bust type. He's the only guy after Crabtree, Maclin and Heyward-Bey I can see potentially having a huge impact and developing into a WR1. Unfortunately he went to a run-oriented team with not much of a QB.Stafford has to be mentioned in a tier with these guys, given that he has one of the best receivers in the game to throw to. And a potentially dynamic running game (in a couple years) to back him up.

Was Hicks an oversight or do you view him as a high-floor/low-ceiling player?

 

[aposulli]

ETA: Britt is a real boom-or-bust type. He's the only guy after Crabtree, Maclin and Heyward-Bey I can see potentially having a huge impact and developing into a WR1. Unfortunately he went to a run-oriented team with not much of a QB.Stafford has to be mentioned in a tier with these guys, given that he has one of the best receivers in the game to throw to. And a potentially dynamic running game (in a couple years) to back him up.

Was Hicks an oversight or do you view him as a high-floor/low-ceiling player?

Short answer: the latterHe has great hands and is very capable of making the tough catch, but he doesn't have the explosive burst out of cuts that will allow him to easily separate from defenders downfield. That said, he's still in a good situation- I'm not a huge fan of Hixon, so I wouldn't be surprised to see Nicks take the starting job opposite Steve Smith sooner rather than later. At worst, Nicks could be the next Keyshawn Johnson in terms of career numbers. In other words, he'll be solid starter, but he'll never make an all-pro team. IMO he has WR2 upside, meaning he could rank around the 10th-20th WRs in a typical PPR league during his prime.

 

[aposulli]

Rankings may change slightly from now until the beginning of preseason, which is when I think I'll make my final update. But here are my top 50 Offensive Rookies heading into camp.

Lists are based on Dynasty Rankings for a typical 12-team Rookie draft (Typical 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, PPR leagues)

[83] RB Knowshon Moreno, Denver Broncos

[80] RB Chris Wells, Arizona Cardinals

[77] RB Donald Brown, Indianapolis Colts

[77] WR Michael Crabtree, San Francisco 49ers

[75] RB LeSean McCoy, Philadelphia Eagles

[73] WR Jeremy Maclin, Philadelphia Eagles

[73] QB Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions

[72] RB Shonn Greene, New York Jets

[72] WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oakland Raiders

[70] WR Hakeem Nicks, New York Giants

[69] QB Mark Sanchez, New York Jets

[69] WR Percy Harvin, Minnesota Vikings

[68] WR Kenny Britt, Tennessee Titans

[67] WR Brain Robiskie, Cleveland Browns

[65] TE James Cook, Tennessee Titans

[64] QB Josh Freeman, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

[63] TE Shawn Nelson, Buffalo Bills

[63] TE Brandon Pettigrew, Detroit Lions

[62] WR Juaquin Iglesias, Chicago Bears

[61] WR Jarett Dillard, Jacksonville Jaguars

[60] RB Andre Brown, New York Giants

[60] WR Ramses Barden, New York Giants

[60] WR Derrick Wiliams, Detroit Lions

[59] RB James Davis, Cleveland Browns

[59] RB Rashad Jennings, Jacksonville Jaguars

[59] WR Mike Thomas, Jacksonville Jaguars

[58] RB Cedric Peerman, Baltimore Ravens

[58] RB Bernard Scott, Cincinnati Bengals

[58] WR Brandon Tate, New England Patriots

[58] TE James Casey, Houston Texans

[57] RB Gartrell Johnson, San Diego Chargers

[57] WR Mohamed Massaquoi, Cleveland Browns

[57] TE Chase Coffman, Cincinnati Bengals

[56] WR Austin Collie, Indianapolis Colts

[55] TE Travis Beckum, New York Giants

[54] WR Mike Wallace, Pittsburgh Steelers

[54] WR Louis Murphy, Oakland Raiders

[54] WR Sammie Stroughter, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

[54] WR Johnny Knox, Chicago Bears

[53] RB Javon Ringer, Tennessee Titans

[53] RB Arian Foster, Houston Texans

[53] RB Glen Coffee, San Francisco 49ers

[53] WR Deon Butler, Seattle Seahawks

[53] WR Brooks Foster, Saint Louis Rams

[53] TE Cornelius Ingram, Philadelphia Eagles

[52] RB Mike Goodson, Carolina Panthers

[52] WR Brandon Gibson, Philadelphia Eagles

[52] WR Patrick Turner, Miami Dolphins

[51] RB Kory Sheets, San Francisco 49ers

[51] RB Jeremiah Johnson, Houston Texans

 

[Poppa]

Rankings may change slightly from now until the beginning of preseason, which is when I think I'll make my final update. But here are my top 50 Offensive Rookies heading into camp.Lists are based on Dynasty Rankings for a typical 12-team Rookie draft (Typical 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, PPR leagues)[83] RB Knowshon Moreno, Denver Broncos[80] RB Chris Wells, Arizona Cardinals[77] RB Donald Brown, Indianapolis Colts[77] WR Michael Crabtree, San Francisco 49ers[75] RB LeSean McCoy, Philadelphia Eagles[73] WR Jeremy Maclin, Philadelphia Eagles[73] QB Matthew Stafford, Detroit Lions[72] RB Shonn Greene, New York Jets[72] WR Darrius Heyward-Bey, Oakland Raiders[70] WR Hakeem Nicks, New York Giants[69] QB Mark Sanchez, New York Jets[69] WR Percy Harvin, Minnesota Vikings[68] WR Kenny Britt, Tennessee Titans[67] WR Brain Robiskie, Cleveland Browns[65] TE James Cook, Tennessee Titans[64] QB Josh Freeman, Tampa Bay Buccaneers[63] TE Shawn Nelson, Buffalo Bills[63] TE Brandon Pettigrew, Detroit Lions[62] WR Juaquin Iglesias, Chicago Bears[61] WR Jarett Dillard, Jacksonville Jaguars[60] RB Andre Brown, New York Giants[60] WR Ramses Barden, New York Giants[60] WR Derrick Wiliams, Detroit Lions[59] RB James Davis, Cleveland Browns[59] RB Rashad Jennings, Jacksonville Jaguars[59] WR Mike Thomas, Jacksonville Jaguars[58] RB Cedric Peerman, Baltimore Ravens[58] RB Bernard Scott, Cincinnati Bengals[58] WR Brandon Tate, New England Patriots[58] TE James Casey, Houston Texans[57] RB Gartrell Johnson, San Diego Chargers[57] WR Mohamed Massaquoi, Cleveland Browns[57] TE Chase Coffman, Cincinnati Bengals[56] WR Austin Collie, Indianapolis Colts[55] TE Travis Beckum, New York Giants[54] WR Mike Wallace, Pittsburgh Steelers[54] WR Louis Murphy, Oakland Raiders[54] WR Sammie Stroughter, Tampa Bay Buccaneers[54] WR Johnny Knox, Chicago Bears[53] RB Javon Ringer, Tennessee Titans[53] RB Arian Foster, Houston Texans[53] RB Glen Coffee, San Francisco 49ers[53] WR Deon Butler, Seattle Seahawks[53] WR Brooks Foster, Saint Louis Rams[53] TE Cornelius Ingram, Philadelphia Eagles[52] RB Mike Goodson, Carolina Panthers[52] WR Brandon Gibson, Philadelphia Eagles[52] WR Patrick Turner, Miami Dolphins[51] RB Kory Sheets, San Francisco 49ers[51] RB Jeremiah Johnson, Houston Texans

How would your Top-10 Dynasty look with PPR for WR's only?Does Crabtree vault ahead of Moreno automatically?How far might McCoy, Greene drop? And who moves in front of 'em - Maclin, Nicks...?Your efforts are much appreciated!