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Fargo TV series on FX - season 3 starts TONIGHT 4/19!!! (1 Viewer)

That puppet scene was really well executed. Had me entering another world and forgetting these weren't actual people. Love all the creative quirks and themes this show incorporates (y)
It was very well done. I just wish it was part of the story instead of an exposition dump. I was borderline pissed when the shot shifted to the pancakes.

They made up for it with the cliffhanger though. Seeing Hamm walk in that room was dark and eerie af.
I knew that was happening and I was still mad that it happened.
:goodposting: as soon as the nurse said "strong and handsome" or something along those lines I knew what was coming but still :angry: they went that way.

You just know bleeping Linda called him... Hopefully "consequences" are coming soon .
I thought the Linda sequence was just a figment of Dots imagination
linda left them behind because shes dead, not that she couldnt take them with her.

the utopia is an afterlife for battered women. she only arrives there when she runs out of gas. the "location" is found in a buried box. saints are only recognized as saints after they die. the point of the journey is that dot cannot get linda to help her.

she projected some fault onto linda because she was the only person who helped her. her previous "trip" to her sisters was to the hospital, and the last "trip" she took she never returned. dot blames the grooming on linda to some degree when in reality all of it was roy, including picking her up from the supermarket and this is how dot finally realizes it and forgives her because she, like all of the women, were puppets under the control of men.

the reason the reclamation must happen after creating puppets is dot is now in control of her own story.

Alan Sepinwall ova here. Nice interpretation.
 
So many scenes from the original Fargo movie are added nicely to this series , the latest being the killing of the obnoxious son of the old woman with an Axe from behind ,hmmm, where have we seen that before .

Loved it.
Car dealership in both with bozo son/son-in-law in charge :shrug:
 
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This season started off with a bang and has been kind of on a downward slope since.
I tried playing Season 1 for my son over Christmas thinking he might like the show but he didn't seem to take to Billy Bob as much as I did.
Season 2 and 3 were both pretty strong entries, didn't care for Chris Rock as a gangster in the last season.
This season still has to finish and play out but I would not put it ahead of the first 2-3 seasons yet.

Still this show is well made and easy to watch vs a lot of other junk on TV
 
didn't care for Chris Rock as a gangster
I thought he was fine. There aren't a lot of comedians that can play dramatic roles.
Speaking of which, Dave Foley was an excellent choice as Danish Graves.
I just didn't think Rock pulled it off, simple as that.
He's not an actor IMHO and sometimes that works well in a movie or show, example would be Maniscalco in the Irishman, not n screen too long and makes a big impression.
Rock was asked to carry a main role in the show, hard to do.

Kids in the Hall boy is fine this season, he's not asked to do a ton of heavy lifting or dialogue, that helps.
 
didn't care for Chris Rock as a gangster
I thought he was fine. There aren't a lot of comedians that can play dramatic roles.
Speaking of which, Dave Foley was an excellent choice as Danish Graves.
I just didn't think Rock pulled it off, simple as that.
He's not an actor IMHO and sometimes that works well in a movie or show, example would be Maniscalco in the Irishman, not n screen too long and makes a big impression.
Rock was asked to carry a main role in the show, hard to do.

Kids in the Hall boy is fine this season, he's not asked to do a ton of heavy lifting or dialogue, that helps.

I think Kids in the Hall guy is too much of a caricature even for this show. The eyepatch is just stupid.

I wish we got more of the Indian cop and less of the mother-in-law and eyepatch guy,

Hamm and Temple are absolutely carrying this season and make it worth watching, but the plot's been a bit of a mess after a pretty strong start.
 
There aren't a lot of comedians that can play dramatic roles.
Speaking of which, Dave Foley was an excellent choice as Danish Graves
Martin Short on a season of Damages (also playing a consigliere type) was excellent. He was so good that I wonder why he never pursued more dramatic roles.
 
There aren't a lot of comedians that can play dramatic roles.
Speaking of which, Dave Foley was an excellent choice as Danish Graves
Martin Short on a season of Damages (also playing a consigliere type) was excellent. He was so good that I wonder why he never pursued more dramatic roles.
Short has always been a pretty good actor that leans into comedy because of his looks and stature, he can't exactly pull off leading man so he rolls with it.

-Jiminy Glick was some of his best stuff

-Big vote for Louis Anderson before he died as Christine Baskets, but it was ability to act as much as his ability at humor that makes it work
 
didn't care for Chris Rock as a gangster
I thought he was fine. There aren't a lot of comedians that can play dramatic roles.
Speaking of which, Dave Foley was an excellent choice as Danish Graves.
I just didn't think Rock pulled it off, simple as that.
He's not an actor IMHO and sometimes that works well in a movie or show, example would be Maniscalco in the Irishman, not n screen too long and makes a big impression.
Rock was asked to carry a main role in the show, hard to do.

Kids in the Hall boy is fine this season, he's not asked to do a ton of heavy lifting or dialogue, that helps.

Saying Rock isn't an actor is quite the insult. The guy has been acting since the 80s even before his comedy blew up and probably part of 100+ tv shows and movies. While mostly comedic roles he can do serious. What's up Pookie?

I think the problem with Season 4 was the story/writing. The premise had a lot of potential but just poorly executed and messy at times.
 
didn't care for Chris Rock as a gangster
I thought he was fine. There aren't a lot of comedians that can play dramatic roles.
Speaking of which, Dave Foley was an excellent choice as Danish Graves.
I just didn't think Rock pulled it off, simple as that.
He's not an actor IMHO and sometimes that works well in a movie or show, example would be Maniscalco in the Irishman, not n screen too long and makes a big impression.
Rock was asked to carry a main role in the show, hard to do.

Kids in the Hall boy is fine this season, he's not asked to do a ton of heavy lifting or dialogue, that helps.

Saying Rock isn't an actor is quite the insult. The guy has been acting since the 80s even before his comedy blew up and probably part of 100+ tv shows and movies. While mostly comedic roles he can do serious. What's up Pookie?

I think the problem with Season 4 was the story/writing. The premise had a lot of potential but just poorly executed and messy at times.
It's not insulting to say Chris Rock is not a good actor, I just don't enjoy him as much in TV or movie roles except in light doses but I absolutely think he's a great stand up comedian.
Just because actors have been around since the 80s, doesn't make them good, IMO
 
didn't care for Chris Rock as a gangster
I thought he was fine. There aren't a lot of comedians that can play dramatic roles.
Speaking of which, Dave Foley was an excellent choice as Danish Graves.
I just didn't think Rock pulled it off, simple as that.
He's not an actor IMHO and sometimes that works well in a movie or show, example would be Maniscalco in the Irishman, not n screen too long and makes a big impression.
Rock was asked to carry a main role in the show, hard to do.

Kids in the Hall boy is fine this season, he's not asked to do a ton of heavy lifting or dialogue, that helps.

Saying Rock isn't an actor is quite the insult. The guy has been acting since the 80s even before his comedy blew up and probably part of 100+ tv shows and movies. While mostly comedic roles he can do serious. What's up Pookie?

I think the problem with Season 4 was the story/writing. The premise had a lot of potential but just poorly executed and messy at times.
It's not insulting to say Chris Rock is not a good actor, I just don't enjoy him as much in TV or movie roles except in light doses but I absolutely think he's a great stand up comedian.
Just because actors have been around since the 80s, doesn't make them good, IMO

That's fair. You said he wasn't an actor so I was confused. I thought you were saying he's one of those famous stand ups that just started acting due to his fame. Not a good actor is a different thing.
 
didn't care for Chris Rock as a gangster
I thought he was fine. There aren't a lot of comedians that can play dramatic roles.
Speaking of which, Dave Foley was an excellent choice as Danish Graves.
I just didn't think Rock pulled it off, simple as that.
He's not an actor IMHO and sometimes that works well in a movie or show, example would be Maniscalco in the Irishman, not n screen too long and makes a big impression.
Rock was asked to carry a main role in the show, hard to do.

Kids in the Hall boy is fine this season, he's not asked to do a ton of heavy lifting or dialogue, that helps.

Saying Rock isn't an actor is quite the insult. The guy has been acting since the 80s even before his comedy blew up and probably part of 100+ tv shows and movies. While mostly comedic roles he can do serious. What's up Pookie?

I think the problem with Season 4 was the story/writing. The premise had a lot of potential but just poorly executed and messy at times.
It's not insulting to say Chris Rock is not a good actor, I just don't enjoy him as much in TV or movie roles except in light doses but I absolutely think he's a great stand up comedian.
Just because actors have been around since the 80s, doesn't make them good, IMO

That's fair. You said he wasn't an actor so I was confused. I thought you were saying he's one of those famous stand ups that just started acting due to his fame. Not a good actor is a different thing.
I saw him on Miami Vice going back to the 80s.
 
didn't care for Chris Rock as a gangster
I thought he was fine. There aren't a lot of comedians that can play dramatic roles.
Speaking of which, Dave Foley was an excellent choice as Danish Graves.
Imo Denis Leary and Richard Belzer would be the top ones in the category. Leary's work in Rescue Me and Belzer's work in Homicide and Law & Order SVU are the gold standard.
Robin Williams was nominated 4 times for an Oscar, won once.
Those were 2 good names you mention
 
didn't care for Chris Rock as a gangster
I thought he was fine. There aren't a lot of comedians that can play dramatic roles.
Speaking of which, Dave Foley was an excellent choice as Danish Graves.
Imo Denis Leary and Richard Belzer would be the top ones in the category. Leary's work in Rescue Me and Belzer's work in Homicide and Law & Order SVU are the gold standard.
Robin Williams was nominated 4 times for an Oscar, won once.
Those were 2 good names you mention

That's a good one. Jamie Foxx and Jim Carrey also come to mind.
 
didn't care for Chris Rock as a gangster
I thought he was fine. There aren't a lot of comedians that can play dramatic roles.
Speaking of which, Dave Foley was an excellent choice as Danish Graves.
Imo Denis Leary and Richard Belzer would be the top ones in the category. Leary's work in Rescue Me and Belzer's work in Homicide and Law & Order SVU are the gold standard.
Robin Williams was nominated 4 times for an Oscar, won once.
Those were 2 good names you mention
I thought the topic was comedians in dramatic TV roles. Williams was Mork on TV which was hardly a dramatic role.
 
didn't care for Chris Rock as a gangster
I thought he was fine. There aren't a lot of comedians that can play dramatic roles.
Speaking of which, Dave Foley was an excellent choice as Danish Graves.
Imo Denis Leary and Richard Belzer would be the top ones in the category. Leary's work in Rescue Me and Belzer's work in Homicide and Law & Order SVU are the gold standard.
Robin Williams was nominated 4 times for an Oscar, won once.
Those were 2 good names you mention

That's a good one. Jamie Foxx and Jim Carrey also come to mind.
Sure. I was focused on TV actors. Foxx and Carey's best known TV work was on "In Living Color"
 
I’m enjoying the season. The puppet episode spoke volumes about state of mind of Dot. She’s legit clinically psychotic.. no doubt a result of her past. Up until becoming captive again, she had no plan other than denial and delusion about a savior/heroine who’s probably already dead. She probably knows it.

Still it’s intriguing to think the vision served some purpose for her. I did not understand her saying she can see good in Gator.
 
Great episode. The 3 Roy Tillmans were hilarious.
I thought that was hilarious especially given the setup that had me wondering where it was going.

I did not understand Graves thinking going to the complex. That seemed too stupid for the character.

Nevertheless, I mostly like this season.
 
I'm enjoying the season as well. So far, I'd put it on par with S3 but the payoff could be greater in the final episodes. So many warring factions about to meet head on :popcorn:
 
I’m enjoying the season. The puppet episode spoke volumes about state of mind of Dot. She’s legit clinically psychotic.. no doubt a result of her past. Up until becoming captive again, she had no plan other than denial and delusion about a savior/heroine who’s probably already dead. She probably knows it.

Still it’s intriguing to think the vision served some purpose for her. I did not understand her saying she can see good in Gator.
PTSD is a terrible thing
 
I'm enjoying the season as well. So far, I'd put it on par with S3 but the payoff could be greater in the final episodes. So many warring factions about to meet head on :popcorn:
Preview of the next episode had a tank, we're going to have an actual war... :popcorn:
 
Why would Danish go there on his own? Was he trying to hatch some plan for himself? He was purposely avoiding the old lady's calls.
 
I’m enjoying the season. The puppet episode spoke volumes about state of mind of Dot. She’s legit clinically psychotic.. no doubt a result of her past. Up until becoming captive again, she had no plan other than denial and delusion about a savior/heroine who’s probably already dead. She probably knows it.

Still it’s intriguing to think the vision served some purpose for her. I did not understand her saying she can see good in Gator.
I think Dot sees good in Gator because they were close in age when Linda was gone and (based on the puppet show) he came to her for comfort when Roy's abuse got to be too bad. They probably clung together to survive Roy's abuse.
Dot sees Gator's behavior as necessary to survive being around Roy.
Gator did let Dot slip away at the hospital.
 
I’m enjoying the season. The puppet episode spoke volumes about state of mind of Dot. She’s legit clinically psychotic.. no doubt a result of her past. Up until becoming captive again, she had no plan other than denial and delusion about a savior/heroine who’s probably already dead. She probably knows it.

Still it’s intriguing to think the vision served some purpose for her. I did not understand her saying she can see good in Gator.

Gator did let Dot slip away at the hospital.
Huh, not really what I took from the hospital scene. He knew she was speaking to 2 FBI agents at the time and they had their hands full trying to kidnap the patient they thought was her husband. I don’t think grabbing her was an option.
 
I’m enjoying the season. The puppet episode spoke volumes about state of mind of Dot. She’s legit clinically psychotic.. no doubt a result of her past. Up until becoming captive again, she had no plan other than denial and delusion about a savior/heroine who’s probably already dead. She probably knows it.

Still it’s intriguing to think the vision served some purpose for her. I did not understand her saying she can see good in Gator.

Gator did let Dot slip away at the hospital.
Huh, not really what I took from the hospital scene. He knew she was speaking to 2 FBI agents at the time and they had their hands full trying to kidnap the patient they thought was her husband. I don’t think grabbing her was an option.
Maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but I thought at one point Dot was on the elevator, the door was closing (or maybe Gator was on the elevator) and Dot and Gator locked eyes. But Gator didn't act on it.
 
I think they needed an additional 5 minutes of Hamm walking towards the barn.
I’ve been on quite a few farms in my day but I don’t think any of them had the barn that far from the main house.
Looked like more of a shed or outbuilding to me. The main barn I thought was the big white riding barn up closer to the house where the prior confrontations had occurred with Ole Munch, which Hamm was walking around to get to this building.
 
I think they needed an additional 5 minutes of Hamm walking towards the barn.
I’ve been on quite a few farms in my day but I don’t think any of them had the barn that far from the main house.
Looked like more of a shed or outbuilding to me. The main barn I thought was the big white riding barn up closer to the house where the prior confrontations had occurred with Ole Munch, which Hamm was walking around to get to this building.
Yeah you’re right I guess she’s not in the main barn.
 
I think they needed an additional 5 minutes of Hamm walking towards the barn.
I’ve been on quite a few farms in my day but I don’t think any of them had the barn that far from the main house.

That wasn't the regular animal barn, that was the special kidnapshed, not to be confused with the murdershed they also have
Not to mention it closed the door on whether she truly found Linda.
In her mind, she had gone to the Linda ranch after finding a hidden note below a windmill.
Then she looks out the kidnap barn window and knows Linda is at the bottom of the well.
She had built an imaginary vision that Linda left her to escape what really happened and why she stayed as long as she did. 😢
 
I think they needed an additional 5 minutes of Hamm walking towards the barn.
I’ve been on quite a few farms in my day but I don’t think any of them had the barn that far from the main house.

That wasn't the regular animal barn, that was the special kidnapshed, not to be confused with the murdershed they also have
Not to mention it closed the door on whether she truly found Linda.
In her mind, she had gone to the Linda ranch after finding a hidden note below a windmill.
Then she looks out the kidnap barn window and knows Linda is at the bottom of the well.
She had built an imaginary vision that Linda left her to escape what really happened and why she stayed as long as she did. 😢
Nice catch! I just went back to watch both scenes and now it's clear she just realized what really happened.
 

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