Favre has wanted out of GB for years (but can't say so) Yes or no? (1 Viewer)

[Kruppe]

I realize Favre has never said anything remotely resembling "trade me" or "I want out of GB". I know he has stated "I want to retire as a Packer", and "I will never wear another jersey besides the Green and Gold". What else can he possibly say? The post-football marketability of #4 is tied to his GB career. If he damages that, he will be burning $$. I think he and Bus Cook are smart enough to know how damaging it would be to his Legend status and all the fame and fortune that go with it.

In my opinion he has been trying for years to get the GB front office to be the bad guy and release him or trade him, with no success. He is now at the end of his rope. At 38 he has 1 or 2 years left to see if he can make a final run for a title. My guess is he had a private conversation with Thompson in March where he laid it out for him: I want to play for another team, but I can't risk making that desire public so I need you to be the bad guy and release me or trade me. TT obviously declined and Favre retired, hoping this would force the issue. Since then he has made a few subtle innuendos and his agent has been less subtle about his desire to continue playing.

Whatever his detractors say he can still play, as evidenced last year. And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

PS. Obligatory "Another Favre thread "

 

[Ghost Rider]

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

 

[Challenge Everything]

 

[Routilla]

 

[bcr8f]

No but i think he can't stand the extreme cold anymore and does want out now(not for years).

I like him in Tampa or as a mentor to Ryan in Atlanta.

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

He played very well in the previous game. I don't think he can handle that cold anymore. It was 85 below that day. I walked outside and it was brutal.

 

[Challenge Everything]

He played very well in the previous game. I don't think he can handle that cold anymore. It was 85 below that day. I walked outside and it was brutal.

I think this can be said about anybody who played in that game that day. I was at the game and was outside for ~5 hours and it was brutal sitting there. Went in to the bathroom at half time to warm up and by the 4th quarter the weather was much worse.

 

[ScottyFargo]

No but i think he can't stand the extreme cold anymore and does want out now(not for years).

I like him in Tampa or as a mentor to Ryan in Atlanta.

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

He played very well in the previous game. I don't think he can handle that cold anymore. It was 85 below that day. I walked outside and it was brutal.

Atlanta would be a good spot due to it's location, but since he would only be interested in returning for one last shot at glory, there's no chance he'll play for a team like Atlanta. He certainly wouldn't be interested in coming back to mentor Ryan.

 

[Michael Fox Fan]

He played very well in the previous game. I don't think he can handle that cold anymore. It was 85 below that day. I walked outside and it was brutal.

I think this can be said about anybody who played in that game that day. I was at the game and was outside for ~5 hours and it was brutal sitting there. Went in to the bathroom at half time to warm up and by the 4th quarter the weather was much worse.

While this is true, the young Favre was impervious to cold. He looked like a brittle old man on the field vs. the Giants. As another fan who sat out there freezing for 5 hours, it pissed me off to watch him lay down and die.

 

[FUBAR]

No but i think he can't stand the extreme cold anymore and does want out now(not for years).

I like him in Tampa or as a mentor to Ryan in Atlanta.

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

He played very well in the previous game. I don't think he can handle that cold anymore. It was 85 below that day. I walked outside and it was brutal.

Atlanta would be a good spot due to it's location, but since he would only be interested in returning for one last shot at glory, there's no chance he'll play for a team like Atlanta. He certainly wouldn't be interested in coming back to mentor Ryan.

It would be great for him to return to his glory days in Atlanta.

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

Seriously, what other team that needs a QB is closer to the Super Bowl?Minnesota? Washington? San Fran?

Maybe it's just that a good QB makes a team look decent, but I really don't see a good spot for him to go right now. Minnesota fits for everything except that there's zero chance of it happening.

Oh, and I think you're reaching way too far with this first post.

 

[Mystery Achiever]

It would be a very shrewd strategy, but he doesn't strike me as shrewd.

Hmmm, I can't tell the fans I want out, so I'll retire still under contract, tell them I want back in when they're too far down the road with Rodgers, they'll have to release or trade me and I'll be the victim instead of the spoiler.

 

[bcr8f]

He played very well in the previous game. I don't think he can handle that cold anymore. It was 85 below that day. I walked outside and it was brutal.

I think this can be said about anybody who played in that game that day. I was at the game and was outside for ~5 hours and it was brutal sitting there. Went in to the bathroom at half time to warm up and by the 4th quarter the weather was much worse.

While this is true, the young Favre was impervious to cold. He looked like a brittle old man on the field vs. the Giants. As another fan who sat out there freezing for 5 hours, it pissed me off to watch him lay down and die.

He looked that way in the Chicago game too. I don't think he can handle it any more. It was a credit that a southern man like he could handle it as long as he did.

 

[Kruppe]

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

No offense but if you think he thinks he is the reason they lost that game, who is being stupid? Take it from another angle. Talk to anybody you know who has been working for the same company for a long time. People are naturally going to think the grass is greener, etc. He has seen a lot of crappy stuff go down there, especially since Holmgren left.

 

[Kruppe]

No but i think he can't stand the extreme cold anymore and does want out now(not for years).

I like him in Tampa or as a mentor to Ryan in Atlanta.

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

He played very well in the previous game. I don't think he can handle that cold anymore. It was 85 below that day. I walked outside and it was brutal.

Atlanta would be a good spot due to it's location, but since he would only be interested in returning for one last shot at glory, there's no chance he'll play for a team like Atlanta. He certainly wouldn't be interested in coming back to mentor Ryan.

It would be great for him to return to his glory days in Atlanta.

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

Seriously, what other team that needs a QB is closer to the Super Bowl?Minnesota? Washington? San Fran?

Maybe it's just that a good QB makes a team look decent, but I really don't see a good spot for him to go right now. Minnesota fits for everything except that there's zero chance of it happening.

Oh, and I think you're reaching way too far with this first post.

Objectively we can say there may be no better fit for him than GB as far as needing him and being close to SB level. I just don't think he is being very objective. He has been butting heads with FO for a few years now. He has played with some very bad teams. He evidently does not like playing in the cold anymore. He has been this close to retiring every year for as long as I can remember, yet he still plays every year. Why?

 

[bcr8f]

Objectively we can say there may be no better fit for him than GB as far as needing him and being close to SB level. I just don't think he is being very objective. He has been butting heads with FO for a few years now. He has played with some very bad teams. He evidently does not like playing in the cold anymore. He has been this close to retiring every year for as long as I can remember, yet he still plays every year. Why?

Tampa's a possibility too. Why does he play. He still loves playing and wonders how long he can. You never know when you'll suck and wants to play until that time comes.He doesn't have anything else he really wants to do but fish and hunt. He should probably find something but hasn't so far. Maybe start a fishing show? He needs to do something. Maybe become a HS coach like his father.

 

[Ghost Rider]

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

No offense but if you think he thinks he is the reason they lost that game, who is being stupid?

I didn't say he was the reason they lost the game. I said that if he played better, they probably would have won. There is a difference in those two statements. Do you disagree with my assessment that if Favre had played better, they would have won?

 

[sho nuff]

What is it about Favre that breeds so much ignorance?

Trying to get traded or released for years?

Umm...huh?

 

[Kruppe]

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

No offense but if you think he thinks he is the reason they lost that game, who is being stupid?

I didn't say he was the reason they lost the game. I said that if he played better, they probably would have won. There is a difference in those two statements. Do you disagree with my assessment that if Favre had played better, they would have won?

I didn't say you said that. You said if he thinks that, which I disagree with. It was a very close game, so they easily could have won it. My point is, Favre doesn't blame himself for that loss. For you to say that he would be stupid to think he can play at a high level and win a SB with another team does not take into account Favre's view of himself. He is coming off a season where he posted his 3rd highest yardage and QB rating numbers in his career.

 

[Interseptopus]

Stupidest suggestion of 2008.

We're all tired of the Favre act.

I highly doubt he wanted out of GB. I'm sure this is how it went:

Phone call to TT from Favre...

Favre: Teddy, I'm thinking about retiring this time. I had a fantastic year, one of my best ever, and I feel like this is as close as I can get to going out on top next to a superbowl win

TT: Okay Brett, if that's your decision. We appreciate all your years and dedication to GB

I'm sure Favre expected this and did not get it, so retired:

TT: Well Brett we'd really like you back for another season if you think you've got it in you.

Brett didn't get the feeling they wanted him back, so he retired. He almost retired when they brought in McCarthy because he didn't want to learn a new system (his exact words!), so why would he want to go to ANOTHER team and learn ANOTHER system... ridiculous

 

[Kruppe]

What is it about Favre that breeds so much ignorance?Trying to get traded or released for years?Umm...huh?

Umm... good reply.

 

[Ghost Rider]

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

No offense but if you think he thinks he is the reason they lost that game, who is being stupid?

I didn't say he was the reason they lost the game. I said that if he played better, they probably would have won. There is a difference in those two statements. Do you disagree with my assessment that if Favre had played better, they would have won?

I didn't say you said that. You said if he thinks that, which I disagree with. It was a very close game, so they easily could have won it. My point is, Favre doesn't blame himself for that loss. For you to say that he would be stupid to think he can play at a high level and win a SB with another team does not take into account Favre's view of himself. He is coming off a season where he posted his 3rd highest yardage and QB rating numbers in his career.

No, no, you have it backwards. You saying, "He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team," implies that he thinks he cannot win a Super Bowl with the current Packers squad, which is what I said would be stupid to think. Could Favre win a Super Bowl with another team? Of course. What would be stupid would be for him to think that he couldn't win one with the current Packers team, and that was what you seemed to imply.

 

[Interseptopus]

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

No offense but if you think he thinks he is the reason they lost that game, who is being stupid?

I didn't say he was the reason they lost the game. I said that if he played better, they probably would have won. There is a difference in those two statements. Do you disagree with my assessment that if Favre had played better, they would have won?

I didn't say you said that. You said if he thinks that, which I disagree with. It was a very close game, so they easily could have won it. My point is, Favre doesn't blame himself for that loss. For you to say that he would be stupid to think he can play at a high level and win a SB with another team does not take into account Favre's view of himself. He is coming off a season where he posted his 3rd highest yardage and QB rating numbers in his career.

If you think he thought what he once was once and thought who thinks that he thinks he lost the game, then you're stupid....Wow... are you guys seriously arguing about what you think brett favre thinks?

 

[Interseptopus]

Just admit this is a ridiculous thread, and that Kruppe may be Maroney=Speed in disguise (someone who replies to his own thread more than others)

 

[Kruppe]

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

No offense but if you think he thinks he is the reason they lost that game, who is being stupid?

I didn't say he was the reason they lost the game. I said that if he played better, they probably would have won. There is a difference in those two statements. Do you disagree with my assessment that if Favre had played better, they would have won?

I didn't say you said that. You said if he thinks that, which I disagree with. It was a very close game, so they easily could have won it. My point is, Favre doesn't blame himself for that loss. For you to say that he would be stupid to think he can play at a high level and win a SB with another team does not take into account Favre's view of himself. He is coming off a season where he posted his 3rd highest yardage and QB rating numbers in his career.

No, no, you have it backwards. You saying, "He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team," implies that he thinks he cannot win a Super Bowl with the current Packers squad, which is what I said would be stupid to think. Could Favre win a Super Bowl with another team? Of course. What would be stupid would be for him to think that he couldn't win one with the current Packers team, and that was what you seemed to imply.

OK I'm with you now. I think a big part of it is how close he came with this team last year, and him feeling they could not get that close again. I think he even said something along those lines during his retirement speach. He did not want to go through another season of getting close and not winning, which tells me this is what he thinks would happen if he stayed in GB.

 

[Kruppe]

Just admit this is a ridiculous thread, and that Kruppe may be Maroney=Speed in disguise (someone who replies to his own thread more than others)

Based on your 3 posts in this thread I get the feeling you disagree...

 

[ScottyFargo]

What is it about Favre that breeds so much ignorance?Trying to get traded or released for years?Umm...huh?

There were reports that Favre asked to be traded when they did not get Randy Moss. He denied them then, too. This adds to fuel to the fire of speculation that he's felt this way for a while, and it does add up.

 

[Sabertooth]

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

No offense but if you think he thinks he is the reason they lost that game, who is being stupid? Take it from another angle. Talk to anybody you know who has been working for the same company for a long time. People are naturally going to think the grass is greener, etc. He has seen a lot of crappy stuff go down there, especially since Holmgren left.

Name one thing "crappy" since Thompson and McCarthy took over.

 

[T Bell]

Green Bay's not cosmopolitan enough for him, so he retired to Kiln. Seems pretty obvious to me.

 

[sho nuff]

What is it about Favre that breeds so much ignorance?Trying to get traded or released for years?Umm...huh?

Umm... good reply.

Your post did not really call for much more.There is not one single fact out there to support your crap that he wanted out of GB for years.

 

[sho nuff]

What is it about Favre that breeds so much ignorance?Trying to get traded or released for years?Umm...huh?

There were reports that Favre asked to be traded when they did not get Randy Moss. He denied them then, too. This adds to fuel to the fire of speculation that he's felt this way for a while, and it does add up.

"Years" implies more than just over the last year. So no, there is no support for his statement.

 

[massraider]

What is it about Favre that breeds so much ignorance?Trying to get traded or released for years?Umm...huh?

Umm... good reply.

Your post did not really call for much more.There is not one single fact out there to support your crap that he wanted out of GB for years.

I'm not seeing any evidence, circumstantial or otherwise.

 

[Tenacious D]

I don't think it's just about $. I think Favre struggles with his allegiance to the fans, teammates, and his history with the Packers. I think Favre would definitely prefer to keep playing with the Packers, but even his brother has said (on radio interview ESPN played the other day) that the Packers brass has been trying to get him to retire for years. The best laid plans of both were throw for a loop last year and I think Favre was shocked when they didn't make the SB and made a qucik decision based on disappointment and physical/mental exhaustion more than anything.

 

[madd futher]

to quote Warriors Forever:

"If you think he thought what he once was once and thought who thinks that he thinks he lost the game, then you're stupid..."

Gotta love the quote. One of the all-time best on this board.

 

[Interseptopus]

to quote Warriors Forever:

"If you think he thought what he once was once and thought who thinks that he thinks he lost the game, then you're stupid..."

Gotta love the quote. One of the all-time best on this board.

I hope you didn't miss the sarcasm...In reference to:

And, more importantly, he believes he can still play at a very high level. He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team.

If he thinks that (which I doubt he really does), he is stupid. The Packers were thisclose to making it to the Super Bowl last season, and if Favre had played well in the NFC title game, they probably would have made it.

No offense but if you think he thinks he is the reason they lost that game, who is being stupid?

I didn't say he was the reason they lost the game. I said that if he played better, they probably would have won. There is a difference in those two statements. Do you disagree with my assessment that if Favre had played better, they would have won?

I didn't say you said that. You said if he thinks that, which I disagree with. It was a very close game, so they easily could have won it. My point is, Favre doesn't blame himself for that loss. For you to say that he would be stupid to think he can play at a high level and win a SB with another team does not take into account Favre's view of himself. He is coming off a season where he posted his 3rd highest yardage and QB rating numbers in his career.

No, no, you have it backwards. You saying, "He thinks he can be a SB winning QB, just not on this team," implies that he thinks he cannot win a Super Bowl with the current Packers squad, which is what I said would be stupid to think. Could Favre win a Super Bowl with another team? Of course. What would be stupid would be for him to think that he couldn't win one with the current Packers team, and that was what you seemed to imply.

Apparently Kruppe knows what Brett Favre thinks... and Kruppes entire argument for this topic is not backed by any facts, just what Kruppe thinks and what "he thinks Brett Favre thinks". Kind of ridiculous and entertaining. Had to read these posts twice to get around the "I think he thinks that he doesn't want to play but I think he thinks that he thinks I think that he said he wants to play, that's what I'm saying" Which is what I decided to poke fun at... apparently it went over your head?

 

[Interseptopus]

What is it about Favre that breeds so much ignorance?Trying to get traded or released for years?Umm...huh?

Umm... good reply.

Your post did not really call for much more.There is not one single fact out there to support your crap that he wanted out of GB for years.

 

[bcr8f]

Stupidest suggestion of 2008.We're all tired of the Favre act.I highly doubt he wanted out of GB. I'm sure this is how it wenthone call to TT from Favre...Favre: Teddy, I'm thinking about retiring this time. I had a fantastic year, one of my best ever, and I feel like this is as close as I can get to going out on top next to a superbowl winTT: Okay Brett, if that's your decision. We appreciate all your years and dedication to GBI'm sure Favre expected this and did not get it, so retired:TT: Well Brett we'd really like you back for another season if you think you've got it in you.Brett didn't get the feeling they wanted him back, so he retired. He almost retired when they brought in McCarthy because he didn't want to learn a new system (his exact words!), so why would he want to go to ANOTHER team and learn ANOTHER system... ridiculous

We? Are you speaking for the whole world or just all of here?

 

[bcr8f]

Green Bay's not cosmopolitan enough for him, so he retired to Kiln. Seems pretty obvious to me.

Excuse me.. .he doesn't live in Kiln.

 

[Interseptopus]

Stupidest suggestion of 2008.We're all tired of the Favre act.I highly doubt he wanted out of GB. I'm sure this is how it wenthone call to TT from Favre...Favre: Teddy, I'm thinking about retiring this time. I had a fantastic year, one of my best ever, and I feel like this is as close as I can get to going out on top next to a superbowl winTT: Okay Brett, if that's your decision. We appreciate all your years and dedication to GBI'm sure Favre expected this and did not get it, so retired:TT: Well Brett we'd really like you back for another season if you think you've got it in you.Brett didn't get the feeling they wanted him back, so he retired. He almost retired when they brought in McCarthy because he didn't want to learn a new system (his exact words!), so why would he want to go to ANOTHER team and learn ANOTHER system... ridiculous

We? Are you speaking for the whole world or just all of here?

You're a Packer fan are you not? Are you not familiar that Packer fans refer to the packers as "we"? By "we" I mean Packer fans. I guess I forgot where I was posting... I need to choose my words so wisely as to not speak for others, I need a link to back up everything I say, and I need to appeal to everyone's opinion.The majority of Packer fans are sick and tired of hearing it from Favre. This should I stay or should I go routine has just crossed the line for me with this news, and from everyone I talk to they are tired of it too. No one cares to talk about it (yet here we are of course), and no one really seems to care. If he comes back, fine, if not, great. At first I loved to see him come back and hopefully lead us to a superbowl. But now that I think about it, I'd rather him just make a fricken decision and stick with it!! Getting kind of tired of this, when he could just walk out to his front lawn where all the reporters are and say "Look guys I do not want to come back. Or Hey everyone I have the desire to play again, it's in the Packer's hands now to decide if they will let me back." It's that easy. But he doesnt' do it. He's a media whore like TO, but not as flashy. He doesn't do sit ups in his front lawn or anything liek that, but instead leaks stories to the media through Mort or his agent. If you're not tired of this whole circus, then you must seriously want Favre back that badly and must be sweatin his nuts more than anyone else on this board. BEcause I consider myself a pretty die hard Favre fan, but this whole fiasco has really gotten old really fast for me. So to answer your question, "we" was more of a broad term than intending to speak for every single living person on the face of the earth. Kind of pathetic that you took it that way, but I just think of the bell curve... I'm more towards the front of that curve and unfortunately I have to deal with others in the middle or on the other end of that bell curve... just a fact of life that I have to deal with. I'm used to it by now...

 

[Interseptopus]

How would Favre saying "I wanted to be out of GB for years" affect his bank account or his legacy?

1) he's already been paid the money, they can't take that money back because "oh you didnt' want to play here so we get a refund"

2) you can't erase what he did in the history books...

3) you can argue he'd lose marketing deals, but I highly doubt Wrangler isn't going to ask him to sell jeans because he came out and said that he would have prefered to end his career in another city with a chance at a superbowl... Wrangler's a jean company...

4) Even if he came out and said he wanted out of GB, Everyone (whoops, sorry bcr8f)... I mean MOST Favre fans would still love him. In fact, that might even ADD to his "legacy" as someone who didn't want to play where he was but he still gave it 110%, played through pain, played his mind out even though he wasn't happy where he was. He kept his mouth shut to the media and just played. He could have pulled a Chad Johnson, but instead just punched in, punched out and performed even though he was unhappy. To me, that adds to Favre's class!

So I don't understand the voting here...

Not to mention- how could he "want out for years" and all of a sudden be "thinking about it now"... what so he had surpressed desires to be traded that are all of a sudden now being brought to his conscious mind? Kind of weird voting here... Never should have started a poll really with these voting options. Kind of ridiculous

 

[Kruppe]

Stupidest suggestion of 2008.We're all tired of the Favre act.I highly doubt he wanted out of GB. I'm sure this is how it wenthone call to TT from Favre...Favre: Teddy, I'm thinking about retiring this time. I had a fantastic year, one of my best ever, and I feel like this is as close as I can get to going out on top next to a superbowl winTT: Okay Brett, if that's your decision. We appreciate all your years and dedication to GBI'm sure Favre expected this and did not get it, so retired:TT: Well Brett we'd really like you back for another season if you think you've got it in you.Brett didn't get the feeling they wanted him back, so he retired. He almost retired when they brought in McCarthy because he didn't want to learn a new system (his exact words!), so why would he want to go to ANOTHER team and learn ANOTHER system... ridiculous

Well, not being a Packer fan I guess I have a different perspective. You obviously have followed all of it more closely than I have. Sources close to him have said that Brett was not pleased that the FO didn't make more of an effort to convince him to stay. So are you saying it is obvious that Favre is playing games with this retirement move? To what motive? So he can hear Ted Thompson say please a few times? Thats it? I can't find the quote where he said thats why he wanted to retire two years ago. Do you have one? What about his reasons for thinking about retiring in 2004, 2005 and 2007?

 

[Chairshot]

The conspiracy theories are starting to get a little silly now...

Brett Favre was a great football player, but he doesn't exactly seem like he's a future Jeopardy! champion. I don't mean to insult the guy, but he doesn't seem all that bright. He also doesn't seem like he is surrounded by especially smart family or friends, either. Even as a player, he was always known as a "gunslinger", which always seemed to me like code for "not a thinker, he just chucks it up there and relies on his God-given talent". From his charity work, he seems like a good hearted guy, I'm just not so sure he is has a much going on in his head as he does in his chest.

In order for any of these "media whore" or "he's been planning this for years!" theories to be true, he would have to be a fairly savvy guy. Or at least have a fairly savvy person calling the shots for him. He would have to be clever enough to manipulate the media, the fans, the guys that are smart enough to run one of the greatest NFL franchises of all time - pretty much everyone. I just don't see it.

I just think you have a guy who is fairly simple-minded, probably a good guy, but hasn't done anything but be a football player for 30+ years and has no idea what he is going to do with all his time once he hangs 'em up. He doesn't appear to have any skills beyond being a football player. So, he's having trouble figuring out what he wants to do. There are worst things that could happen.

 

[renesauz]

I didn't read any post except the OP...and was LOL at the absurdity of the argument.

On what planet does a QB leave a borderline playoff team in the hopes of landing a gig as the STARTING QB on a Super-Bowl caliber team?????? This has to be one of the most ridiculous conclusions ever arrived at in the shark pool.

 

[bcr8f]

The conspiracy theories are starting to get a little silly now...

Brett Favre was a great football player, but he doesn't exactly seem like he's a future Jeopardy! champion. I don't mean to insult the guy, but he doesn't seem all that bright. He also doesn't seem like he is surrounded by especially smart family or friends, either. Even as a player, he was always known as a "gunslinger", which always seemed to me like code for "not a thinker, he just chucks it up there and relies on his God-given talent". From his charity work, he seems like a good hearted guy, I'm just not so sure he is has a much going on in his head as he does in his chest.

In order for any of these "media whore" or "he's been planning this for years!" theories to be true, he would have to be a fairly savvy guy. Or at least have a fairly savvy person calling the shots for him. He would have to be clever enough to manipulate the media, the fans, the guys that are smart enough to run one of the greatest NFL franchises of all time - pretty much everyone. I just don't see it.

I just think you have a guy who is fairly simple-minded, probably a good guy, but hasn't done anything but be a football player for 30+ years and has no idea what he is going to do with all his time once he hangs 'em up. He doesn't appear to have any skills beyond being a football player. So, he's having trouble figuring out what he wants to do. There are worst things that could happen.

No I don't think he ever was(all that bright) but his gunslinger instincts were more about being a gambler and throwing hail mary' trying to win than being dumb. He probably wants to quit playing before he looks bad but who knows when that'll be? He's also very honest and generous, 2 things more players should try and be. I think you're right. I think he should start a fishing, hunting show like Kent Hrbek. Or work with kids, become a HS coach like his father. Something.He needs to do something with his life.

You're a Packer fan are you not? Are you not familiar that Packer fans refer to the packers as "we"? By "we" I mean Packer fans. I guess I forgot where I was posting... I need to choose my words so wisely as to not speak for others, I need a link to back up everything I say, and I need to appeal to everyone's opinion.

The majority of Packer fans are sick and tired of hearing it from Favre. This should I stay or should I go routine has just crossed the line for me with this news, and from everyone I talk to they are tired of it too. No one cares to talk about it (yet here we are of course), and no one really seems to care. If he comes back, fine, if not, great. At first I loved to see him come back and hopefully lead us to a superbowl. But now that I think about it, I'd rather him just make a fricken decision and stick with it!! Getting kind of tired of this, when he could just walk out to his front lawn where all the reporters are and say "Look guys I do not want to come back. Or Hey everyone I have the desire to play again, it's in the Packer's hands now to decide if they will let me back." It's that easy. But he doesnt' do it.

He's a media whore like TO, but not as flashy. He doesn't do sit ups in his front lawn or anything liek that, but instead leaks stories to the media through Mort or his agent.

If you're not tired of this whole circus, then you must seriously want Favre back that badly and must be sweatin his nuts more than anyone else on this board. BEcause I consider myself a pretty die hard Favre fan, but this whole fiasco has really gotten old really fast for me.

So to answer your question, "we" was more of a broad term than intending to speak for every single living person on the face of the earth. Kind of pathetic that you took it that way, but I just think of the bell curve... I'm more towards the front of that curve and unfortunately I have to deal with others in the middle or on the other end of that bell curve... just a fact of life that I have to deal with. I'm used to it by now...

Oh so by We you're not being arrogant and a Favre hater you're just speaking as a Packer fan. OK man. Whatever you say.It's amazing how someone as honest and enthusiastic about the game as Favre generates such hate. He isn't responsible for what Madden and others said about him but is blamed for it almost every day.

 

[T Bell]

Green Bay's not cosmopolitan enough for him, so he retired to Kiln. Seems pretty obvious to me.

Excuse me.. .he doesn't live in Kiln.

Oh! Well then that changes things, doesn't it?