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Negative. Aaron might not be ready for the new system and may not be ready for the NFL. You dont know, and I dont either. If Favre stays next year it could also help Aaron grow in the system that would be then two years old. Practices allow the coaches more than you think or at least are letting on.Favre hurting the Packers =
Negative. Aaron might not be ready for the new system and may not be ready for the NFL. You dont know, and I dont either. If Favre stays next year it could also help Aaron grow in the system that would be then two years old. Practices allow the coaches more than you think or at least are letting on.Favre hurting the Packers =
As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
Considering the system is similiar to the last one other than terminology....that is irrelevant.I know what coaches do in practice...b/c I am "involved" in football. Yes I know it helps in development. But practice can only simulate gameplay. Only until you throw the kid in the water, will you know if he can swim or not. Plus he needs game experience to develop....look at how much better Alex Smith is this season vs last season.The reason he is hurting the Packers is because they are such a young team and to have an old QB...that only hinders Rodgers' development with the rest of his younger counter-parts. (He needs to develop chemistry with Greg Jennings for example. Favre is doing that with Jennings right now, but then when he retires....Jennings will have to do it all over again with Rodgers.) Meaning that the Packers are not ready for the postseason anytime soon because they have so many young players that need to develop. Why not allow the Qb to develop with game experience along with him? Oh yeh because Brett Favre runs that entire organization. This is not only coming from a Bears fan, but a fellow Wisconsin resident.Negative. Aaron might not be ready for the new system and may not be ready for the NFL. You dont know, and I dont either. If Favre stays next year it could also help Aaron grow in the system that would be then two years old. Practices allow the coaches more than you think or at least are letting on.Favre hurting the Packers =
Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
Ok....this may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
I seriously doubt the Packer ownership and FO is letting a player dictate what they do with their Billion $$ entity.
I hope Santa brings you a clue for Christmas.Considering the system is similiar to the last one other than terminology....that is irrelevant.I know what coaches do in practice...b/c I am "involved" in football. Yes I know it helps in development. But practice can only simulate gameplay. Only until you throw the kid in the water, will you know if he can swim or not. Plus he needs game experience to develop....look at how much better Alex Smith is this season vs last season.The reason he is hurting the Packers is because they are such a young team and to have an old QB...that only hinders Rodgers' development with the rest of his younger counter-parts. (He needs to develop chemistry with Greg Jennings for example. Favre is doing that with Jennings right now, but then when he retires....Jennings will have to do it all over again with Rodgers.) Meaning that the Packers are not ready for the postseason anytime soon because they have so many young players that need to develop. Why not allow the Qb to develop with game experience along with him? Oh yeh because Brett Favre runs that entire organization. This is not only coming from a Bears fan, but a fellow Wisconsin resident.Negative. Aaron might not be ready for the new system and may not be ready for the NFL. You dont know, and I dont either. If Favre stays next year it could also help Aaron grow in the system that would be then two years old. Practices allow the coaches more than you think or at least are letting on.Favre hurting the Packers =
I hope Santa brings you a clue for Christmas.Considering the system is similiar to the last one other than terminology....that is irrelevant.I know what coaches do in practice...b/c I am "involved" in football. Yes I know it helps in development. But practice can only simulate gameplay. Only until you throw the kid in the water, will you know if he can swim or not. Plus he needs game experience to develop....look at how much better Alex Smith is this season vs last season.The reason he is hurting the Packers is because they are such a young team and to have an old QB...that only hinders Rodgers' development with the rest of his younger counter-parts. (He needs to develop chemistry with Greg Jennings for example. Favre is doing that with Jennings right now, but then when he retires....Jennings will have to do it all over again with Rodgers.) Meaning that the Packers are not ready for the postseason anytime soon because they have so many young players that need to develop. Why not allow the Qb to develop with game experience along with him? Oh yeh because Brett Favre runs that entire organization. This is not only coming from a Bears fan, but a fellow Wisconsin resident.Negative. Aaron might not be ready for the new system and may not be ready for the NFL. You dont know, and I dont either. If Favre stays next year it could also help Aaron grow in the system that would be then two years old. Practices allow the coaches more than you think or at least are letting on.Favre hurting the Packers =
I seriously think that you don't know that the Packers don't have an owner
talk about getting a clueTell me one thing that is not true about it.The past 3 or so offseasons it has happened.Ok....this may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Tell me one thing that is not true about it.The past 3 or so offseasons it has happened.Ok....this may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
Whats wrong about it?Any facts? Or will you continue to throw out one word unintelligent answers out?WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Tell me one thing that is not true about it.The past 3 or so offseasons it has happened.Ok....this may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
I hope Santa brings you a clue for Christmas.Considering the system is similiar to the last one other than terminology....that is irrelevant.I know what coaches do in practice...b/c I am "involved" in football. Yes I know it helps in development. But practice can only simulate gameplay. Only until you throw the kid in the water, will you know if he can swim or not. Plus he needs game experience to develop....look at how much better Alex Smith is this season vs last season.The reason he is hurting the Packers is because they are such a young team and to have an old QB...that only hinders Rodgers' development with the rest of his younger counter-parts. (He needs to develop chemistry with Greg Jennings for example. Favre is doing that with Jennings right now, but then when he retires....Jennings will have to do it all over again with Rodgers.) Meaning that the Packers are not ready for the postseason anytime soon because they have so many young players that need to develop. Why not allow the Qb to develop with game experience along with him? Oh yeh because Brett Favre runs that entire organization. This is not only coming from a Bears fan, but a fellow Wisconsin resident.Negative. Aaron might not be ready for the new system and may not be ready for the NFL. You dont know, and I dont either. If Favre stays next year it could also help Aaron grow in the system that would be then two years old. Practices allow the coaches more than you think or at least are letting on.Favre hurting the Packers =
Are you really this stupid? Favre has not held the team hostage each offseason for the past 3 years. Favre has not been running the organization the last 3 seasons. Favre has not been looking to be in the spotlight for the last 3 seasons while he was in Mississippi. Favre has not hurt the organization and they reported today that McCarthy has been talking to Favre about returning next season.Favre is making the haters look bad and I'm loving it.Whats wrong about it?Any facts? Or will you continue to throw out one word unintelligent answers out?WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Tell me one thing that is not true about it.The past 3 or so offseasons it has happened.Ok....this may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
I said 3 years or so.So he didn't decide to retire...and then The GM and coach talked him out of it and he didn't give the organization a definite answer for awhile in the offseason?He didn't hold the organization hostage after his father died and wife had breast cancer by not making a decision early in the offseason a few years back?Answer those two ?'sAre you really this stupid? Favre has not held the team hostage each offseason for the past 3 years. Favre has not been running the organization the last 3 seasons. Favre has not been looking to be in the spotlight for the last 3 seasons while he was in Mississippi. Favre has not hurt the organization and they reported today that McCarthy has been talking to Favre about returning next season.Favre is making the haters look bad and I'm loving it.Whats wrong about it?Any facts? Or will you continue to throw out one word unintelligent answers out?WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Tell me one thing that is not true about it.The past 3 or so offseasons it has happened.Ok....this may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
I said 3 years or so.So he didn't decide to retire...and then The GM and coach talked him out of it and he didn't give the organization a definite answer for awhile in the offseason?Are you really this stupid? Favre has not held the team hostage each offseason for the past 3 years. Favre has not been running the organization the last 3 seasons. Favre has not been looking to be in the spotlight for the last 3 seasons while he was in Mississippi. Favre has not hurt the organization and they reported today that McCarthy has been talking to Favre about returning next season.Favre is making the haters look bad and I'm loving it.Whats wrong about it?Any facts? Or will you continue to throw out one word unintelligent answers out?WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Tell me one thing that is not true about it.The past 3 or so offseasons it has happened.Ok....this may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
He didn't hold the organization hostage after his father died and wife had breast cancer by not making a decision early in the offseason a few years back?
Answer those two ?'s
I'm done with you. You're pathetic for trying to bring these two things up for a reason that you think Favre held the Packers hostage. How did he hold the team hostage after what he went through after the 2004 season? By the way....you may want to research the game Favre had on MNF after his father died.Keep hating.He didn't hold the organization hostage after his father died and wife had breast cancer by not making a decision early in the offseason a few years back?Are you really this stupid? Favre has not held the team hostage each offseason for the past 3 years. Favre has not been running the organization the last 3 seasons. Favre has not been looking to be in the spotlight for the last 3 seasons while he was in Mississippi. Favre has not hurt the organization and they reported today that McCarthy has been talking to Favre about returning next season.Favre is making the haters look bad and I'm loving it.Whats wrong about it?Any facts? Or will you continue to throw out one word unintelligent answers out?WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Tell me one thing that is not true about it.The past 3 or so offseasons it has happened.Ok....this may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
I said 3 years or so.So he didn't decide to retire...and then The GM and coach talked him out of it and he didn't give the organization a definite answer for awhile in the offseason?Are you really this stupid? Favre has not held the team hostage each offseason for the past 3 years. Favre has not been running the organization the last 3 seasons. Favre has not been looking to be in the spotlight for the last 3 seasons while he was in Mississippi. Favre has not hurt the organization and they reported today that McCarthy has been talking to Favre about returning next season.Favre is making the haters look bad and I'm loving it.Whats wrong about it?Any facts? Or will you continue to throw out one word unintelligent answers out?WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Tell me one thing that is not true about it.The past 3 or so offseasons it has happened.Ok....this may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
He didn't hold the organization hostage after his father died and wife had breast cancer by not making a decision early in the offseason a few years back?
Answer those two ?'s
What a scumbag.Against the Raiders I know the game....come on it was the Raiders.I am just stating that he didn't make a decision right away that season either....this past season is when it was really bad by him.But go ahead everyone hate.I have no idea what Im talking about b/c I live in the state.I'm done with you. You're pathetic for trying to bring these two things up for a reason that you think Favre held the Packers hostage. How did he hold the team hostage after what he went through after the 2004 season? By the way....you may want to research the game Favre had on MNF after his father died.Keep hating.He didn't hold the organization hostage after his father died and wife had breast cancer by not making a decision early in the offseason a few years back?Are you really this stupid? Favre has not held the team hostage each offseason for the past 3 years. Favre has not been running the organization the last 3 seasons. Favre has not been looking to be in the spotlight for the last 3 seasons while he was in Mississippi. Favre has not hurt the organization and they reported today that McCarthy has been talking to Favre about returning next season.Favre is making the haters look bad and I'm loving it.Whats wrong about it?Any facts? Or will you continue to throw out one word unintelligent answers out?WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Tell me one thing that is not true about it.The past 3 or so offseasons it has happened.Ok....this may be one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
It's gud for th' loc'l 'conomy down hyeh. Them noospaper & TV r'porter types spend lotsa mon'y at th' bait shop....and they doesn't ev'n buy any bait!Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
Bunch of misfits and hasbeens at WR, that guy is doing something with nothing this year.
I guess Phillip Rivers didn't learn anything in the two years he watched Drew Brees from the sidelines. He obviously didn't gain anything from those two years because he has looked so clueless this season.Considering the system is similiar to the last one other than terminology....that is irrelevant.I know what coaches do in practice...b/c I am "involved" in football. Yes I know it helps in development. But practice can only simulate gameplay. Only until you throw the kid in the water, will you know if he can swim or not. Plus he needs game experience to develop....look at how much better Alex Smith is this season vs last season.The reason he is hurting the Packers is because they are such a young team and to have an old QB...that only hinders Rodgers' development with the rest of his younger counter-parts. (He needs to develop chemistry with Greg Jennings for example. Favre is doing that with Jennings right now, but then when he retires....Jennings will have to do it all over again with Rodgers.) Meaning that the Packers are not ready for the postseason anytime soon because they have so many young players that need to develop. Why not allow the Qb to develop with game experience along with him? Oh yeh because Brett Favre runs that entire organization. This is not only coming from a Bears fan, but a fellow Wisconsin resident.Negative. Aaron might not be ready for the new system and may not be ready for the NFL. You dont know, and I dont either. If Favre stays next year it could also help Aaron grow in the system that would be then two years old. Practices allow the coaches more than you think or at least are letting on.Favre hurting the Packers =
benson_will_lead_the_way said:Considering the system is similiar to the last one other than terminology....that is irrelevant.I know what coaches do in practice...b/c I am "involved" in football. Yes I know it helps in development. But practice can only simulate gameplay. Only until you throw the kid in the water, will you know if he can swim or not. Plus he needs game experience to develop....look at how much better Alex Smith is this season vs last season.The reason he is hurting the Packers is because they are such a young team and to have an old QB...that only hinders Rodgers' development with the rest of his younger counter-parts. (He needs to develop chemistry with Greg Jennings for example. Favre is doing that with Jennings right now, but then when he retires....Jennings will have to do it all over again with Rodgers.) Meaning that the Packers are not ready for the postseason anytime soon because they have so many young players that need to develop. Why not allow the Qb to develop with game experience along with him? Oh yeh because Brett Favre runs that entire organization. This is not only coming from a Bears fan, but a fellow Wisconsin resident.Negative. Aaron might not be ready for the new system and may not be ready for the NFL. You dont know, and I dont either. If Favre stays next year it could also help Aaron grow in the system that would be then two years old. Practices allow the coaches more than you think or at least are letting on.Favre hurting the Packers =
sitting on the bench really killed Philip Rivers. the Chargers should probably just cut him.and playing right away has done wonders for JP Losman.The only young player on offense that Rodgers needs to develop chemistry with is Jennings. i don't get it. he doesn't need his linemen to run in to pass patterns. if Jennings play this season is any indicator it's not going to take him 2-3 years to learn how to play with Rodgers.why does everyone think Favre is some selfish ego-maniac? what has he done in his 15 years to make people think that? it's ignorant statements like "Why not allow the Qb to develop with game experience along with him? Oh yeh because Brett Favre runs that entire organization." that ruin a person's credibility. 
i'm not much of a SP poster.. but can someone tell me if this guy is a notedbenson_will_lead_the_way said:Using the word "dumbest" in your vocabulary....shows the intelligence level that you represent.The "dumbest" thing is having a player(brett favre) run an entire football organization instead of the coaches. Then every offseason, the packer faithful hold their breath to see if he is coming back. Even if it means hurting the organization by not letting them know his decision, just for the spotlight to be on him at his home down in Mississippi every offseason.As a long time lurker this is one of the dumbest things I have ever read here.
or just this, uhh, slow, all the time?
Hasn't Favre won 3 out of his last 4 at the Humpty Dome?
Favre: 203-352 2295yards 13td 7int 82l 81.3ratingI am not going to sit here and say these are phenominal, but to be hoenst, these are solid stats for a guy who gets CREAMED about throwing picks. I thought Favre looked real good yesterday. If your talking about the "team" then I guess so, they look better then I thought they would to be honest.I just disagree with the posters comment thats all.
GordonGekko said:
they were 4-12 last season.before that they hadn't had a losing season in his career with GB.
the team was basically allowed to deteriorate by Sherman because he had no clue what he was doing. Favre won with such feared WR tandems as Corey Bradford and Bill Schroeder.. they were horrible last year.. but they were also starting Andrae Thurman and Jamal Jones at WR and trotting out 6th stringer Samkon Gado. what'd you want him to do?
i think you underestimate the damage Sherman did. seriously. people love to say that Favre has held the franchise hostage and that he's some controlling ego-maniac. but if that were the case why didn't he dump Sherman?? he could see the deteriorating talent, he realized Bevell was a terrible coach, that Sherman wasn't providing the coaching he wants/needs. he left that decision to Harlan and the board. as any player should. he let the team be run by "ownership" (in this case, since there's no team owner)
you might want to look back at Favre's life the past few years... and his laundry list of injuries. those injuries have prevented him from doing a lot of things he normally should have done. he could probably have been better conditioned but i don't see how that has hurt him. if anything he's not had great timing because of not throwing the ball as much but he's nursed some wicked arm/elbow/hand injuries in the past few years.Favre's "decline" (one bad year) was largely the result of having NOBODY to throw the ball to. people love to talk about how the Patriots plug and play with "bad" receivers. it's just proof of how great Brady is... but when Favre is playing with Arena leaguers and street free agents who get picked up on Tuesday then start on Sunday, nothing is said unless he throws 3 picks. then all the talk is of how he's washed up and should retire.throw ANY QB out there with a makeshift line (Whitticker, Klemm, etc.) a 6th string RB, 6th and 7th string WRs, and a 4th string TE as your starters and tell me that they're not going to look bad.
agree here.again, this goes back to the "favre is an egomaniac" point. he WANTS to be coached. he's the son of a coach. he wants someone to joust with him and challenge him. Rhodes and Sherman were both doormats with no clue how to coach him. McCarthy saw that and has done a great job coaching him again.
Favre has done NOTHING to "help" make this a losing team. that's just ridiculous. really.. that's a pretty poorly thought out opinion. sorry.. my
I am not going to sit here and say these are phenominal, but to be hoenst, these are solid stats for a guy who gets CREAMED about throwing picks. I thought Favre looked real good yesterday.
If your talking about the "team" then I guess so, they look better then I thought they would to be honest.
I just disagree with the posters comment thats all.
Might want to re-read WHEN that post was made.
I am not going to sit here and say these are phenominal, but to be hoenst, these are solid stats for a guy who gets CREAMED about throwing picks. I thought Favre looked real good yesterday.
If your talking about the "team" then I guess so, they look better then I thought they would to be honest.
I just disagree with the posters comment thats all.
He was saying after last seasons disheartening year it would be too bad if he left.
This is what you get when people bump Old threads.
Like I said, not your fault. When people feel they need to go back and bump threads older than
I am not going to sit here and say these are phenominal, but to be hoenst, these are solid stats for a guy who gets CREAMED about throwing picks. I thought Favre looked real good yesterday.
If your talking about the "team" then I guess so, they look better then I thought they would to be honest.
I just disagree with the posters comment thats all.
He was saying after last seasons disheartening year it would be too bad if he left.
This is what you get when people bump Old threads.
Sorry....... I was wondering WTF? He isnt having a phenominal season but he is having a good one... hehehe.
then things like this are bound to happen.
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